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Re: Inconclusive Elections – A New Concept We Must Embrace And Support by Nobody: 2:50pm On Jul 25, 2016
DropShot:
Valid concerns up there.

I won't pretend that INEC has really lived up to expectations. But as I said in response to another post, our security institutions and electorates have bigger role to play in helping INEC conclude any election successfully.

Having said that, Nigeria should start looking at staggered elections instead of having a general election throughout the country in one single day knowing fully well we lack the resources to give us a credible one.

But in the absence of that, I will always welcome an election declared inconclusive for obvious flaws and repeated twice or more; than support releasing mere figures that don't represent the people's wish.
PDP conducted the elections that eventually got them kicked out of power last year. How did the INEC do it? I think the last current INEC chairman needs some more lessons from his predecessor.

There's no reason whatsoever why the INEC can't conclude LG elections on a time and save us this waste of very limited resources.
Re: Inconclusive Elections – A New Concept We Must Embrace And Support by DropShot(op): 2:54pm On Jul 25, 2016
dearpreye:
PDP conducted the elections that eventually got them kicked out of power last year. How did the INEC do it? I think the last current INEC chairman needs some more lessons from his predecessor.

There's no reason whatsoever why the INEC can't conclude LG elections on a time and save us this waste of very limited resources.
The 2015 election could not have been rigged in the states where PDP lost it. And I am sure you know this fact.

I hope you rember the professor from Uniport who said on national TV he had to write his result "under special condition" when he could not read his handwriting. That is how PDP had rigged many past elections.

Trust me, if INEC must conclude all elections the day they're held, that prof's example will continue as we used to have it.
Re: Inconclusive Elections – A New Concept We Must Embrace And Support by DropShot(op): 2:57pm On Jul 25, 2016
jaybee3:
I know it isn't currently allowed in the constitution but he (Prof Yakubu) ought to be lobbying the legislooters to change the freaking laws to reflect the country's current economic situation. We simply can't afford more bloodshed and stretched public services because of few cancelled elections at certain wards or LG's.

Nothing wrong with allowing result of an election with participation of at least 70%
So the 70% will be the computed baseline when they aggregate up to council, LGA or State level.

It can even be based on hard numbers (Total votes against expected participation derived from registered voters and PVC collection) rather than % based on ward sizes


Bottom line is, we have to try different things to move this country forward
Many things are wrong with your suggestion but it's not important to discuss those now.

The emboldened, yes we have to try different things to get it right. But before we do that, I insist it's better to have an election declared inconclusive for obvious flaws than write the result in sitting rooms of politicians.
Re: Inconclusive Elections – A New Concept We Must Embrace And Support by cocoduck: 3:06pm On Jul 25, 2016
DropShot:
As I told you b4, many elections in PDP's sixteen years were doctored. They were not in the true sense of the word concluded. Results of many of them were written in sitting room of politicians.

I don't think staggered elections will perform worse than we have now.

If I may ask, what suggestions would you give to INEC where there are flaws during elections, other than just writing/doctoring result?
Even the ones lost by the PDP was written in your father's bedroom, look this man will defecate in a plastic bag and give you people and you will eat and tell us that his fecal matter is delicious and good for health, God punish all of you.
Re: Inconclusive Elections – A New Concept We Must Embrace And Support by tizblink: 3:07pm On Jul 25, 2016
DropShot:
The only solution as of NOW is declaring doctored results as previously done under PDP.

The other solutions cannot be immediate.

Think!
Your thoughts?

*Laughs*

Like I said I'd rather discuss how we end this trend. Either now or over time.

That I'd not do on this thread 'cause it's not worth it.

Seriously, just take a look at the topic
Re: Inconclusive Elections – A New Concept We Must Embrace And Support by funlord(m): 3:55pm On Jul 25, 2016
grin
cocoduck:
Even the ones lost by the PDP was written in your father's bedroom, look this man will defecate in a plastic bag and give you people and you will eat and tell us that his fecal matter is delicious and good for health, God punish all of you.
Ogbeni! Why this man thread dey pepper you like dis 4 body na?


Na suggestion the bobo make no be law!
Re: Inconclusive Elections – A New Concept We Must Embrace And Support by cocoduck: 4:59pm On Jul 25, 2016
funlord:
grin



Ogbeni! Why this man thread dey pepper you like dis 4 body na?


Na suggestion the bobo make no be law!
E no dey pepper me oh I just dey wonder where these people keep their brains
Re: Inconclusive Elections – A New Concept We Must Embrace And Support by BlackSeptember: 5:28pm On Jul 25, 2016
DropShot:
So, declaring doctored election results is success?

You guys think you're capable of proper reasoning but you're not.
The INEC chairman should ask Jega to explain how he successfully conducted the past ele without any hitches.


If this inconclusive nonsense persists to yhe next gener election then it will be yhe biggest threat to our democracy.


Please close this thread and apologise for this Hocus-Pocus you brought here.


Deapreye I'm disappointed in you seeing reason with this. There is nothing like near truth biko
Re: Inconclusive Elections – A New Concept We Must Embrace And Support by DropShot(op): 6:03pm On Jul 25, 2016
BlackSeptember:
The INEC chairman should ask Jega to explain how he successfully conducted the past ele without any hitches.


If this inconclusive nonsense persists to yhe next gener election then it will be yhe biggest threat to our democracy.


Please close this thread and apologise for this Hocus-Pocus you brought here.


Deapreye I'm disappointed in you seeing reason with this. There is nothing like near truth biko
Having tried to educate to the fact that during Jega, results were written in living rooms of politicians, you still want Mahmood to toe the same line!

Una be follow follow. Just because many are condemning "inconclusive elections" without offering alternative solutions, some of you are here talking trash.

What should INEC have done where violence prevented elections from being held? Write result as they used to?
Re: Inconclusive Elections – A New Concept We Must Embrace And Support by bishopkay:
DropShot:
What's your point?

Please enumerate them without betraying your emotions.
My point is this
1. Elections been inconclusive isn't a healthy way to run INEC cos of the kind of country we are in. The winner takes all kinda affair will definitely show in the results.
2. It is a show of incompetence by the police and other security apparatus in the place if an election is inconclusive due to electoral violence. WTF are they doing therehuh
3. It shows the level of unpreparedness, laxity and incompetence of the INEC and its elecoral officers if logistics fail on that day. It is their job to plan and they are well funded for that.
These are just a little of the points that abound.

Then i have a question for you. If the present INEC is having a hard time conducting elections in just a state or senatorial zones as the case may be, what becomes our fate when they finally conduct the 2019 general election?
Do you know the tension, bad blood, hate and possible civil unrest that would occur if peradventure the presidential election were declared inconclusive?
How did Jega manage to conduct conclusive election? Our elders say a fish begins to rot from the head and its fast becoming clear that the inncompetence of d Bhari administration is already seeping through to all agencies and parastatals under it.
Also if you claim all election results conducted by PDP were doctored, since they weren't declared inconclusive, then it would not be bad belonging to the school of thought which says Jega rigged the last election results for buhari; afterall we even saw the pictures and videos of under aged voters in the north.
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