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Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by hopefulLandlord: 12:12am On Jul 30, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Adults are talking Go to bed |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 12:22am On Jul 30, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Why are you shooting yourself in the foot and then laughing in pain , are you a stoic ? Hitler and his atheist buddies accommodated atheists that accepted Nazism but were against atheists that did not and that means he is not an atheist ? Haba ! Hilter's political aims did not conflict with his atheism . Same with Christians during the medieval age who deprecated the reprehensible acts of the Catholics were killed by them . It does not mean the Catholics aint Christians . They wanted to sate their political thirst for power and the bulldozed past anyone that stood in their including fellow Christians . That's what Hitler did with atheists who were anti-Nazi . It does not mean he was mean he was anti-atheistic . He was simply being fighting against anti-Nazis including atheists . |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by hopefulLandlord: 12:26am On Jul 30, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:Let me get this straight He was against anti-Nazis including atheists but he was an atheist? Seems legit |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by Nobody: 12:26am On Jul 30, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: He does not realise that everyone tagged Hitler as the strangest Atheist. Hitler was an atheist and supposed believer in evolution. He was also a proven Fascist. |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by Nobody: 12:29am On Jul 30, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:
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Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by Nobody: 12:32am On Jul 30, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Hitler was the first example of a typical demopublican. He endorsed imperialism and genocide through his promotion of scientific racism. |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by hopefulLandlord: 12:34am On Jul 30, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:
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Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by Nobody: 12:37am On Jul 30, 2016 |
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Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 12:38am On Jul 30, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: What eluded hopeful landlord is that Hitler's political ideologies did not conflict with his atheistic view - he was also against atheists who dissented to his political ideologies . Fascism is against Marxism - a subset of Communism - but Marxism has atheism as an inseparable part . That means he actually cared less about atheism though an atheist and wanted his political ideologies enforced . He was a true politician ! |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by Nobody: 12:39am On Jul 30, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: Confirmed Demopublican! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by hopefulLandlord: 12:42am On Jul 30, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:Bros these are conjectures and hearsays The "facts" we have is that he was antichristian and anti-atheist Nazism is not atheism bro https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler Like I said, we'll keep going back and forth If scholars who's job is to search deep almost day and night haven't been able to factually claim he was atheist, I see no reason for two people who are "armchair" scholars to keep going on about an open ended discussion Its gotten tiring now |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by Nobody: 12:49am On Jul 30, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Zygotes never understand what elders are saying because they are yet to even develop.
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Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by hopefulLandlord: 12:49am On Jul 30, 2016 |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 12:53am On Jul 30, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Bro , stop giving me that link . Whatever Hitler had against atheism in 1933 was influenced by his once-held Christian beliefs . He departed from Christianity and in 1941 , Hitler said : "Christianity is an invention of sick brains" . His quondam Christian beliefs made him deplore atheism . But when he became an atheist , he had his political ideas to be promulgated and enforced . He had no modicum of interest in his atheistic views but loved his political aims - that's why even if atheists were anti-Nazi he'd still exterminate them . It does not make him less of an atheist . He believes in evolution - survival of the fittest - atheist or not if you don't want me , die !!! But he hated Christians no matter what !! |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by hopefulLandlord: 1:01am On Jul 30, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: You previously stated that whatever he had against atheists was due to his once held Christian belief and then still in the same post contradicted that Like I said, he was "antichristian" I'm not denying that and your post shows that But even you showed he's ready to kill atheists that oppose Nazism Nazism is not atheism Nazism is simply another religious movement He persecuted anyone against it (Christian Muslim Judaism atheists) But you are now claiming its an atheist movement? He was anti everything "familiar" religion Its like calling Otem an atheist His movement is simply different from any other at the time Only intellectually dishonest "Christians" quickly called him atheist outside Germany Such dishonest Christians are responsible for making sure he becomes accepted as atheist But Ebuka the fact that even scholars are stuck in debate as to whether he's atheist or not says a lot Unless you know more than them, if you do then more power to you |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by JackBizzle: 1:04am On Jul 30, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: Hitler was never an atheist. Stop being silly. He killed Jews and said it was the Lord's work. Ogbeni. Stop the lies. |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 1:16am On Jul 30, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:exactly...i repeated times witout number...read the links..they wudnt listen.. Ignorance at its peak brother... |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 1:27am On Jul 30, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Just negodu . We already have a memorandum that explicitly denigrated religious concept of God . Hitler also abjured his Christian beliefs and embraced materialism - this can be deduced from the memo . |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 1:27am On Jul 30, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:i believe u didnt read my link on hitlers quote... He believed in the supernatural...read my link on his quotes...or signify and i bring thos quotes here...u choose.... Nazism is a religion of its own...i keep sayinng this...check it up on wikipedia... Nazism is a kinda deism which promotes positive christianity...positive christianity was the line of worship for god...he believed christianity was frm the heart and shud be shoown in good deeds etc baba an atheist doesnt laydown and follow rules of worship of a god...any god...be it the naturelike way u wanna put it... Atheists detest all gods.... Hitler publicly decried atheism like a lot...he shut down secular schools because they had no religious foundations...he believed religion was necessary...shut down atheistic movement and organisations in germany.. What more do u need? Lets present pure facts.. |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by JackBizzle: 1:29am On Jul 30, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: Lies, lies, lies. No one believes your nonsense interpretations. Hitlers quotes affirming his belief in God and doing God's work are clear. No need for "reinterpretation". |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 1:30am On Jul 30, 2016 |
raphieMontella:
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Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 1:30am On Jul 30, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:hitler spoke against atheism frm the conception of the nazi party till his death |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 1:32am On Jul 30, 2016 |
raphieMontella: He discussed it with raphieMontella towards the precipice of his death . |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 1:33am On Jul 30, 2016 |
JackBizzle: . Looks like you are reading his anti Christian quotes upside down |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 1:35am On Jul 30, 2016 |
Secular schools can never be tolerated because
such schools have no religious instruction, and a
general moral instruction without a religious
foundation is built on air; consequently, all
character training and religion must be derived
from faith. Speech 26 April 1933 made during
negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican
Concordat of 1933;
after assuming office o..he was already chancellor...kingebuka...more is cooming |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 1:38am On Jul 30, 2016 |
We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out. Speech delivered in Berlin 24 October 1933; cc kingebukanaija so u knw he had all the power he already needed..its nt a matter oof lieing to be in power |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by JackBizzle: 1:40am On Jul 30, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: You have lied so much that you dont even know when you are lying consciously. Just look at the nonsense you posted. Hitler died 1945 but you bring some quote not made by him which is dated 1946? |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 1:40am On Jul 30, 2016 |
raphieMontella: Can you provide any speech against atheism from 1941 to 1945 ? The dude spoke a lot with confidence so you might lay your hands on any . |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 1:41am On Jul 30, 2016 |
JackBizzle: wawu . Bright mind . The memorandum was PUBLISHED at that time . It was in circulation since 1941 - did you skip this part or are you gona admit that its a knee-jerk post . |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 1:43am On Jul 30, 2016 |
Pls take a lil time to read them While we destroyed the Centre Party, we have not only brought thousands of priests back into the Church, but to millions of respectable people we have restored their faith in their religion and in their priests. The union of the Evangelical Church in a single Church for the whole Reich, the Concordat with the Catholic Church, these are but milestones on the road which leads to the establishment of a useful relation and a useful co operation between the Reich and the two Confessions. New Year Message 1 January 1934; from We have experienced a miracle, something unique, something the like of which there has hardly been in the history of the world. God first allowed our people to be victorious for four and a half years, then He abased us, laid upon us a period of shamelessness, but now after a struggle of fourteen years he has permitted us to bring that period to a close. It is a miracle which has been wrought upon the German people.... It shows us that the Almighty has not deserted our people, that He received it into favour at the moment when it rediscovered itself. And that our people shall never again lose itself, that must be our vow so long as we shall live and so long as the Lord gives us the strength to carry on the fight. Speech 19 March 1934 to the Old Guard of the Party at Munich;(believed in a miracle #ur supernatural) Finally, I would like to say something to those people who keep talking to me about religion: I am also religious, profoundly religious on the inside, and I believe that Providence weighs us human beings. Speech 26 March 1934.... August 2, 1934 — Hitler becomes Führer of the German Nation I know that here and there the objection has been raised: Yes, but you have deserted Christianity. No, it is not that we have deserted Christianity; it is those who came before us who deserted Christianity. We have only carried through a clear division between politics, which have to do with terrestrial things, and religion, which must concern itself with the celestial sphere. There has been no interference with the doctrine of the Confessions or with their religious freedom, nor will there be any such interference. On the contrary the State protects religion, though always on the one condition that religion will not be used as a cover for political ends. There may have been a time when even parties founded on the ecclesiastical basis were a necessity. At that time Liberalism was opposed to the Church, while Marxism was anti-religious. But that time is past. National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity. The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of to-day, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles. Speech delivered at Koblenz 26 August 1934; this one also....note the word celestial cc kingebukanaija |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 1:44am On Jul 30, 2016 |
raphieMontella: I asked for 1941 to 1945 |
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 1:45am On Jul 30, 2016 |
So far as the Evangelical Confessions are concerned we are determined to put an end to existing divisions, which are concerned only with the forms of organization, and to create a single Evangelical Church for the whole Reich... And we know that were the great German reformer [Martin Luther] with us to-day he would rejoice to be freed from the necessity of his own time and, like Ulrich von Hutten, his last prayer would be not for the Churches of the separate States: it would be of Germany that he would think and of the Evangelical Church of Germany. Proclamation at the Parteitag at Nuremberg, 5 September 1934; wwud an atheist try to unify the church? |
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