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KingEbukasBlog:
Communism is the conflation of Marxism and Leninism - ideologies of their originators Marx , Lenin . Karl Marx founded Marxism while Vladmir Lenin founded Leninism . These atheists as well as most atheist see religion as an impediment to development .

Leninism developed from Marxism . And Lenin , the founder of Leninism , has the following views about religion :

1. He sees religion as a tool used for oppression of the indigent : As a system of belief, religion adds to the oppressive woes of the exploited, “coarsening and darkening … the spiritual and moral life of the masses” (Lenin 10:83).

2. He also sees religious beliefs as delusions : We may believe that the gods will provide us succour under trial, that our prayers for relief will be answered, that God will punish our enemies at the Judgement Seat, that the grace of God will lead to a life far greater than our present one. Yet we are deluded, for these beliefs merely make us content with our lot (Lenin 5:338).

3. He blatantly mentions religion as being a problem to man : Our own beliefs are only part of the problem, for they are perpetrated by clergy, the “gendarmes in cassocks” (Lenin 17:142; Lenin 5:385, 414; 6:259) who are hand-in-glove with state powers, from which they receive their stipends, residences, church buildings, and by which the whole ecclesial system is maintained.

4. He sees religion as a tool used by capitalists to preserve their affluent status : In short, the clergy are part of the small ruling class, numbering also landowners and capitalists: those keen to preserve their privileged status (Lenin 19:28).

Most atheist holds these views on religion . They see the acceptance of atheism as a panacea to the world's problems . They accuse the religious of instigating conflicts . Some of today's atheists have overtly said that if they had the power , they'd annihilate religion . This same animus pushed the communist leaders to go on a killing spree -exterminating the lives of the religious ones .

For the atheists who controvert that atheism led to the killings , the founders of the ideologies don't agree with you . Here's what Lenin said in his book Religion :

Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism.

And then Marxism–Leninism holds that religion is the opium of the people, in the sense of promoting passive acceptance of suffering on Earth in the hope of eternal reward. Therefore, Marxism–Leninism [COMMUNISM] advocates the abolition of religion and the acceptance of atheism . And this course - the abolition of religion and the acceptance of religion - led to the death of millions of people .

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KingEbukasBlog:


Due to atheism , the founders of Marxism and Leninism developed several critical beliefs about religion . Communism , Marxism-Leninism , simply means "abolish religion and impose atheism " . It had nothing to do with the personal desires of those atheist potentates . They killed because their political ideologies were caused by atheism - the rejection of gods

Atheists rely on different ideologies INDUCED by their disbelief in God . Now look at this , the bellicose rabid theists kill because of the ideologies induced by their belief and religion , and bellicose rabid atheists kill or are malevolent because of the ideologies induced by the disbelief and rejection of religion Eg communism .

For the rabid theists they want to impose their religion because of their religious ideologies and for the rabid atheists they want to impose atheism and abolish religion because of the atheistic ideologies e.g communism .

It is rational to impugn the morality of the atheists - subjective morality , whereby what is morally wrong or right is due to a person's personal perceptive. What was their perspective on how to annihilate religion ? Kill the contumacious religious people . Why is it the right thing to do ? Because they are perceived as encumbrances to development due to their beliefs . See ? The killings were justified from their personal perspective . Of course we know that the religious agrees to objective morality .

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KingEbukasBlog:


Arguing with atheists can very exasperating especially when you guys choose to be disingenuous .

Rabid theism = Fanaticism or extremism

Rabid atheism = anti-theism

Religious extremists or rabid theists are the ones who are malevolent towards you because you don't agree or share the same beliefsor religious ideologies with them. Rabid atheists are the ones who are malevolent towards you because you believe in a God, are religious or don't agree with their atheist ideologies .

Religious extremism or rabid theism does not tolerate having a different religious ideology or none at all . Rabid atheism or anti-theism like the communists practice does not tolerate having a religious ideology also intolerant to religious practices .

You atheists blame religion for adversities but cry foul when atheism is blamed ? Religious ideologies can induce extremism and atheistic ideologies can induce rabid atheism or anti-theism .


Subjective morality which atheists subscribe to is a type of morality based on personal perspective, feelings, beliefs and desires. And those communist atheist leaders killed because from their personal perspective , feelings , beliefs and desires to annihilate religion or the supposed encumbrance which is the defiant religious people was right . I mean you even said that subjective morality wants the best for mankind and atheist leaders saw the best way forward from their perspective was the extermination of religious people and their practices . Such wickedness ! Such evil !Tufiakwa !

So yes yes yes atheism is to be blamed for the death of over 250 million people . My God !

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Christians killing unbelievers since the 4th century.
http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings.html

AccidentalGenius:
Christians killing unbelievers since the 4th century.

http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings.html

Lol!!
Aithest claiming they aren't murderers, right?

AccidentalGenius:
Christians killing unbelievers since the 4th century.

http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings.html

A blatant red herring



But anyway , here are Jesus' words

John 13:34-35
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

[size=14pt]Any "christian" who kills will go to HELL . [/size]

Jesus deprecates depravities and violence . Ideologies that advocate for peace and non violence have traces from the words of Jesus


Please address the OP let's begin from the there

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The Spanish inquisition, slavery, witch hunting, democide and a whole host of other killings done in the name of Christianity by Christians. You're here talking about death and cruelty, when your religion and a host of others are the embodiment of death. What is the point of all these argument really? Is this all your life is about?

tempem:



Lol!!
Aithest claiming they aren't murderers, right?

He was being desperate

All those communist leaders killed because of atheism . And I provided proof for that

AccidentalGenius:
The Spanish inquisition, slavery, witch hunting, democide and a whole host of other killings done in the name of Christianity by Christians. You're here talking about death and cruelty, when your religion and a host of others are the embodiment of death. What is the point of all these argument really? Is this all your life is about?

Please stay on the topic or get out

KingEbukasBlog:


He was being desperate

All those communist leaders killed because of atheism . And I provided proof for that

Lol!!

Lol!!
Nairaland eightist are reasons why I often by popcorn and 7up.
How will it go well with someone hating on Almighty God..

KingEbukasBlog:


Please stay on the topic or get out

You spend everyday arguing and to what end? You spend hours digging up all this and to what end? To prove a god exists? Is this all you have to offer as a person? Articles upon articles you call proofs. I'm not even jumping into this argument with you. That's what you do, argue! That's all you are, sadly. Apologies if I've derailed, I just had to.

KingEbukasBlog:


[size=14pt]Any "christian" who kills will go to HELL . [/size]

Does this include killing to defend oneself?

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AccidentalGenius:


You spend everyday arguing and to what end? You spend hours digging up all this and to what end? To prove a god exists? Is this all you have to offer as a person? Articles upon articles you call proofs. I'm not even jumping into this argument with you. That's what you do, argue! That's all you are, sadly. Apologies if I've derailed, I just had to.

You dont prove that God exists , who still does that

I'm here to EXPOSE the foolishness of atheism . Let everyone know how wicked atheism inherently is . Let the world know that atheists hindered the progress of mankind for 100 years . Atheism holds you back .Atheism leaves you in a quagmire . Atheism hinders anyone from fufilling their potential. Because it believes life is worthless and purposeless . It lets you believe that it is pointless to achieve in life . No wonder atheists are the least fulfilled , accomplished and distinguished

Come to Jesus . Join the winning team

KingEbukasBlog:


You dont prove that God exists , who still does that

I'm here to EXPOSE the foolishness of atheism . Let everyone know how wicked atheism inherently . Let the world know that atheists hindered the progress of mankind for 100 years . Atheism holds you back .Atheism leaves you in a quagmire . Atheism hinders anyone from fufilling their potential. Because it believes life is worthless and purposeless . It lets you believe that it is pointless to achieve in life . No wonder atheists are the least fulfilled , accomplished and distinguished

Come to Jesus . Join the winning team

Keep your Jesus to yourself. I'm atheist, and I can proudly say I have alot going. I make the most out of life. I progress. I don't do the same pointless and most unproductive thing you do which by the way is arguing everyday.

Come to think about it, is this how your Jesus behaves? Is this what he would do? I thought being a Christian was all about being Christ like? So this is what it means to be Christ like? At least to you.

AccidentalGenius:


Keep your Jesus to yourself. I'm atheist, and I can proudly say I have alot going. I make the most out of life. I progress. I don't do the same pointless and most unproductive thing you do which by the way is arguing everyday.

Come to think about it, is this how your Jesus behaves? Is this what he would do? I thought being a Christian was all about being Christ like? So this is what it means to be Christ like? At least to you.

Dude , please pay attention to my username and figure out why I'm always online .

Please address the argument

Or leave

KingEbukasBlog:


A blatant red herring



But anyway , here are Jesus' words

John 13:34-35
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

[size=14pt]Any "christian" who kills will go to HELL . [/size]

Jesus deprecates depravities and violence . Ideologies that advocate for peace and non violence have traces from the words of Jesus


Please address the OP let's begin from the there

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Jesus is the same as God who never changes. All over the bible we have God (Jesus) calling for death and destruction of people .

dalaman:


Jesus is the same as God who never changes. All over the bible we have God (Jesus) calling for death and destruction of people .

I've explained the immutability of God to you but we know atheists always obdurate about their empty misconceptions . Sir , please address the argument

And the antichrist will also be an atheist (and a conceited one at that) to do all he will try to do:

[size=13pt]Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, ... nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.[/size]
Daniel 11:37

Such are the devil's marksmen when he wants to execute his worse form of rebellion.

Scholar8200:
And the antichrist will also be an atheist (and a conceited one at that) to do all he will try to do:

[size=13pt]Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, ... nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.[/size]
Daniel 11:37

Such are the devil's marksmen when he wants to execute his worse form of rebellion.

Oh dear ! Thanks for this verse ! Atheist leaders in the past have shown the world what they are capable of because of their unbelief , imagine what the anti-Christ himself would do

Hei ! Atheism is very wicked and evil oo

KingEbukasBlog:


I've explained the immutability of God to you but we know atheists always obdurate about their empty misconceptions . Sir , please address the argument

You've explained nothing. Just throwing excuses as usual.

dalaman:


You've explained nothing. Just throwing excuses as usual.

Lol . I wonder you guys believe misconceptions Christians would tell you that right explanation yet you'd be adamant to change your view or position .I understand , you guys need those misconceptions to appear reasonable .

KingEbukasBlog:


Oh dear ! Thanks for this verse ! Atheist leaders in the past have shown the world what they are capable of because of their unbelief , imagine what the anti-Christ himself would do

Hei ! Atheism is very wicked and evil oo

Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, ... nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Daniel 11:37

You are getting the above verse all wrong. The Bible was referencing to devil-like creatures that will aspire to humiliate the God ideology in order to become superior to them. Disregarding god is not equating with disbelieving in their existence.
No atheist have time to disregard an unknown creature not to talk of aspiring to be magnified over them.

There are people that doesn't regard marriage, does that imply that marriage doesn't exist. There are some students that disregard their lecturers, does that imply that they do not exist??

Regard simply imply "having concern for something" while disregard imply "having no concern for something as well."

If not for our outspokenness, atheists don't even give a second look at religion.

KingEbukasBlog:


Lol . I wonder you guys believe misconceptions Christians would tell you that right explanation yet you'd be adamant to change your view or position .I understand , you guys need those misconceptions to appear reasonable .

Which misconceptions? According to the bible God is the same yesterday , today and forever. How is that a misconception? As usual you always have nothing reasonable to say.

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Communism is political, atheism is not

JackBizzle:
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Communism is political, atheism is not

braithwaite:

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt..

Can you people address the argument and stop posting completely daft stupid quotes upandan . .

KingEbukasBlog:



Can you people address the argument and stop posting completely daft stupid quotes upandan . .

Atheism is not political. It is amoral and apolitical.

What you misunderstand is that communism always leads to a totalitarian government because the govt is in control of all resources and everthying.


But feel free to shout in your ignorance that atheism is the cause for political murders.

JackBizzle:


Atheism is not political. It is amoral and apolitical.

What you misunderstand is that communism always leads to a totalitarian government because the govt is in control of all resources and everthying.
But feel free to shout in your ignorance that atheism is the cause for political murders.

Atheism is not political yet being an atheist is a prerequisite for becoming a member of the communist party . Atheism is amoral yet atheism subscribes to subjective morality .


Lol . Please just admit you have no answer . The ignorance displayed here is ineffable .

KingEbukasBlog:



Atheism is not political yet being an atheist is a prerequisite to becoming a member of the communist party . Atheism is amoral yet atheism subscribes to subjective morality .


Lol . Please just admit you have no answer . The ignorance displayed here is ineffable .

Being a christian is a perequisite to becoming a member of the KKK party.

Does that mean that christians are racists?



#ChristianLogicDestroyed

JackBizzle:



Being a christian is a perequisite to becoming a member of the KKK party.

Does that mean that christians are racists?



#ChristianLogicDestroyed

You are not making any sense . We were talking about atheism and politics one minute and the next minute you switch to KKK which is a blatant red herring

JackBrizzle please address the topic and stop wasting my time .

KingEbukasBlog:


You are not making any sense . We were talking about atheism and politics one minute and the next minute you switch to KKK which is a blatant red herring

JackBrizzle please address the topic and stop wasting my time .

You said; One must be a an atheist to be a communist. Communists are murderers. Therefore, atheists are murderers.

I then copied your silly logic-

I said; One must be a christian to be in the KKK. KKK are racists. Therefore, christians are racists

JackBizzle:



You said; One must be a an atheist to be a communist. Communists are murderers. Therefore, atheists are murderers.

I then copied your silly logic-

I said; One must be a christian to be in the KKK. KKK are racists. Therefore, christians are racists

Strawman or lack of comprehension - it could be either or both . I said

1. atheism or atheistic ideologies led to the killings of millions of people which I have proven

2. being an atheist is a prerequisite for becoming a member of a communist party

Addressing your strawman ,does Christianity assent to the activities of the KKK ? NO . Does Christ approve of their sick ideologies ? No . Will they go to Hell ? If their members die as sinners , Yes they will . Did I implicitly suggest that atheists are murderers ? No

KingEbukasBlog:


Strawman or lack of comprehension - it could be either or both .

[size=14pt]I said- 1. atheism or atheistic ideologies led to the killings of millions of people which I have proven[/size]

2. being an atheist is a prerequisite for becoming a member of a communist party

Addressing your strawman ,does Christianity assent to the activities of the KKK ? NO . Does Christ approve of their sick ideologies ? No . Will they go to Hell ? If their members die as sinners , Yes they will . [size=14pt]Did I implicitly suggest that atheists are murderers ? No[/size]

I can't even bother to be correcting your ignorance when you are so good at contradicting yourself. Just look at the bold in your comment.