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EBLABOR:
Then state your prove already. two witnesses we know have no benefit from this have spoken.
Did anyone say anything about Lincoln being special? Where did get this from? I am talking about GOD'S NAME BEING ADORED! you should my very last reply to Allah's agent.

Hahahahahahahaha...Chai. I shake my head. YOU HAVE NO PROOF OF ANYTHING.

As a matter of fact, you simply made a mess.

Your witnesses spoke on what they thought. As for his wife she is not even a credible witness. And I have said why in my earlier posts. Jeeeeez. I have told you why already. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Abraham Lincoln dreamt like we all do, because, he'll, he knew people mortally hated him. His dreams were formed by his anxieties. That this is so is not strange as a fact. You can read up more on sleep a awakened State psychology.

I SAY GOD DID NOT SHOW ANYTHING TO HIM. I will repeat this to all Baptists, Mormons, Catholics etc. That people said so does not make it true. People lie and tell tall tales. And I told you, that wives will say good things about thier husbands and it was most common back then. So, Regardless of whether they were two or more, fact is none of us knew his dream, or what the people thought and what they stood to gain. His wife, in my opinion is not a credible witness as a matter of fact.

If you are saying we all dream so God exists, I will not accept it as a valid argument, not to talk of Lincoln. You bring this as your proof of God to atheists and they will decimate you.

There is nothing to prove. Lincoln's dreams were not special, extra ordinary or strange. He might have thought it strange, then they probably thought blacks were sub human so why not think a dream is special? We in 2016, if we had the opportunity will teach Lincoln that his dreams were formed by his anxieties and fears.

Hahahahahahahaha.. I say nope. Lincolns dreams do not prove anything. They were just dreams, which you and I would have tonight too depending on the stages of sleep.

AgentOfAllah:
There's is nothing supernatural about dreaming about one's assassination and then getting assassinated. Reality coinciding with dreams is a pretty routine and mundane thing. For a person like Abe Lincoln, the probability of having your dreams of assassination coincide with reality is conceivably exaggerated for reasons previously explained by AnakinSkywalker as follows: As a rule of thumb, and following the principles of Occam's Razor, there is usually no need for recourse to the supernatural if nature can perfectly explain an event.

Now, I have answered your question. You answer mine:
Again, can you list the instructions you claimed were in Abe's dreams?

REASONS WHY LINCOLN’S DREAM WASN’T RANDOM OR A RESULT OF ASSASINATION ATTEMPTS

By this I intend to make clear for the last time why Lincoln’s was divinely inspired. I am doing so Jehovah by this would make those who faith has been built by this story stronger, not for argument purposes that is why this is the very last time!

1. . His dream was no psychological reaction of previous assassination attempt, because he was living a happy life after that attempt because his last assassination attempt was in 1864.
I would post a quote from President Lincoln immediately the last failed attempt of his life in 1864 when the soldier brought back President Lincoln’s hat that has fell of his head after a gun shot that missed his head this is what the President had to say:
‘Now, in the face of this testimony in favor of your theory of danger to me, personally, I can’t bring myself to believe that any one has shot or will deliberately shoot at me with the purpose of killing me; although I must acknowledge that I heard this fellow’s bullet whistle at an uncomfortably short distance from these headquarters of mine. I have about concluded that the shot was the result of accident. It may be that some one on his return from a day’s hunt, regardless of the course of his discharge, fired off his gun as a precautionary measure of safety to his family after reaching his house’.

Does this sound like a statement of a person who was very scared and would have nightmares because of his psychological fears of death. When they got home the President stressed out more clearly
‘The whole thing seems farcical. No good can result at this time from giving it publicity. It does seem to me that I am in more danger from the augmentation of an imaginary peril than from a judicious silence, be the danger ever so great’.
He had no fears or insecurities at the day a shot was fired and missed his head, how then could psychology or whatever bring hunted dreams to him nine months later in April 1865.

2. The fact that his wife invited to the theatre to watch the play, this clearly shows he wasn’t having any psychological fears that he wasn’t afraid to go out. If it was so bad and you and Mr Walker had said, would he not be so psychologically fear sickened to go to the theatre. Instead Lincoln went with his wife and was even laughing at the moment he got shot.
3. The dream Lincoln had clearly mentioned that he would be killed by assassination which happened eventually, because this was a revelation of ALMIGHTY GOD. If the dream had said Lincoln would be killed by a mob, or by food poisoning it would be clear that the dream was random. But the dream gave him the exact method of his death.
4. The was no history of Lincoln having a hunted life of nightmares about himself being assassinated immediately after he had those previous attempts on his life, Why would the dream come up 10 days to his death only? Because this is not random, it came at the right and proper timing.
5. No You haven’t answered my question, I never asked you for the principles of Occam Razor or blade, stop using a decoy. You do not have any facts I have explained why his dreams wasn’t a result of psychological reaction, as truthful and clear as can be. It is no surprise you have no reply for me!
Lord Jesus, I thank you for all your kindness and goodness to mankind, and for your revelation in all generations. May the lord continue to know your power. Amen

[quote author=AnakinSkywalker post=48098257]Hahahahahahahaha...Chai. I shake my head. YOU HAVE NO PROOF OF ANYTHING.

As a matter of fact, you simply made a mess.

Your witnesses spoke on what they thought. As for his wife she is not even a credible witness. And I have said why in my earlier posts. Jeeeeez. I have told you why already. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Abraham Lincoln dreamt like we all do, because, he'll, he knew people mortally hated him. His dreams were formed by his anxieties. That this is so is not strange as a fact. You can read up more on sleep a awakened State psychology.

I SAY GOD DID NOT SHOW ANYTHING TO HIM. I will repeat this to all Baptists, Mormons, Catholics etc. That people said so does not make it true. People lie and tell tall tales. And I told you, that wives will say good things about thier husbands and it was most common back then. So, Regardless of whether they were two or more, fact is none of us knew his dream, or what the people thought and what they stood to gain. His wife, in my opinion is not a credible witness as a matter of fact.

If you are saying we all dream so God exists, I will not accept it as a valid argument, not to talk of Lincoln. You bring this as your proof of God to atheists and they will decimate you.

There is nothing to prove. Lincoln's dreams were not special, extra ordinary or strange. He might have thought it strange, then they probably thought blacks were sub human so why not think a dream is special? We in 2016, if we had the opportunity will teach Lincoln that his dreams were formed by his anxieties and fears.

Hahahahahahahaha.. I say nope. Lincolns dreams do not prove anything. They were just dreams, which you and I would have tonight too depending on the stages of sleep. [/quote

[b]REASONS WHY LINCOLN’S DREAM WASN’T RANDOM OR A RESULT OF ASSASINATION ATTEMPTS

By this I intend to make clear for the last time why Lincoln’s was divinely inspired. I am doing so Jehovah by this would make those who faith has been built by this story stronger, not for argument purposes that is why this is the very last time!

1. . His dream was no psychological reaction of previous assassination attempt, because he was living a happy life after that attempt because his last assassination attempt was in 1864.
I would post a quote from President Lincoln immediately the last failed attempt of his life in 1864 when the soldier brought back President Lincoln’s hat that has fell of his head after a gun shot that missed his head this is what the President had to say:
‘Now, in the face of this testimony in favor of your theory of danger to me, personally, I can’t bring myself to believe that any one has shot or will deliberately shoot at me with the purpose of killing me; although I must acknowledge that I heard this fellow’s bullet whistle at an uncomfortably short distance from these headquarters of mine. I have about concluded that the shot was the result of accident. It may be that some one on his return from a day’s hunt, regardless of the course of his discharge, fired off his gun as a precautionary measure of safety to his family after reaching his house’.

Does this sound like a statement of a person who was very scared and would have nightmares because of his psychological fears of death. When they got home the President stressed out more clearly
‘The whole thing seems farcical. No good can result at this time from giving it publicity. It does seem to me that I am in more danger from the augmentation of an imaginary peril than from a judicious silence, be the danger ever so great’.
He had no fears or insecurities at the day a shot was fired and missed his head, how then could psychology or whatever bring hunted dreams to him nine months later in April 1865.

2. The fact that his wife invited to the theatre to watch the play, this clearly shows he wasn’t having any psychological fears that he wasn’t afraid to go out. If it was so bad and you and Mr Walker had said, would he not be so psychologically fear sickened to go to the theatre. Instead Lincoln went with his wife and was even laughing at the moment he got shot.
3. The dream Lincoln had clearly mentioned that he would be killed by assassination which happened eventually, because this was a revelation of ALMIGHTY GOD. If the dream had said Lincoln would be killed by a mob, or by food poisoning it would be clear that the dream was random. But the dream gave him the exact method of his death.
4. The was no history of Lincoln having a hunted life of nightmares about himself being assassinated before when immediately after he had those previous attempts on his life, Why would the dream come up 10 days to his death only? Because this is not random, it came at the right and proper timing.
5. You still haven’t answered my question, I never asked you for the principles of Occam's Razo I want clear facts I have explained why his dreams wasn’t a result of psychological reaction. It is no surprise you have no reply for me!
Lord Jesus, I thank you for all your kindness and goodness to mankind, and for your revelation in all generations.
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My guy , you have no argument. Go to your Sunday church and tell your congregation. They will believe that. Rational human beings don't. The citizens of the United States, where Abraham Lincoln was born lived and was assassinated , don't.

EBLABOR:
REASONS WHY LINCOLN’S DREAM WASN’T RANDOM OR A RESULT OF ASSASINATION ATTEMPTS...bla bla bla.

Abeg, I no get time for one-trick-pony wey only sabi sound like broken record, ọga. Either you answer my question or continue to wallow in your ignorance. Your religion has fried your brain, clearly.

[quote author=EBLABOR post=48099147][/quote]You say it was from God, I say there is no evidence apart from people's accounts in fact published years latter after his death. It is not an evidence or proof I accept.

Abraham Lincoln is not the only one to have had a premonition about his death. There have been people before and after him who did. Christians and non christians alike. Lincolns episode is not special or spectacular. And please stop lying as his dream was 100 per cent accurate. It was not. According to Lamon In the dream, he entered the East Room of the White House, where he saw a corpse guarded by soldiers, and a crowd in attendance mourning the deceased. Lincoln asked who it was, and they told him: “The president. And because this was published long after Lincolns death (nearly 20 years after), even its authenticity (everything Lamon wrote- That is everything you and I read) and fact is still being question by not just me. But other rational minds.

Sorry, I repeat that There is no convincing proof that God showed Lincoln anything, nor that his dream was from God. His dream was not and in today's terms is not special. As a matter of fact, it becomes less special as we gain more insight into human psychology. Lincoln's dreams were as a result of past experiences and the fact that he had pissed people off. His attitude towards security and dispelling threats, is what makes him Lincoln. Also, it is based on what you and I read. I choose to see it as not having enough capacity to convince me. Also, neither is it reason enough to say God exists. He greeted Crook (the guard not the one that murdered him) goodbye, perhaps he was going out and not to bed. Even living people at times deviate from normal things like that. I do not ascribe anything spectacular to it. Then we should just believe when we mistakenly wear our clothes inside out, then ''money is on its way'' or when we trip over a stone by our left foot, something is about to happen.

I choose to accept other proof that God exists. Not this one. Naaaah. If I could, I would tell people to ignore you. However, it is for them to seek out truth for themselves by reasoning. You wonder why I can't reply on time? It is because people rely on me for a lot and am sorry I cannot spend all day on this. It is something I had laughed off and waved off from the first day. But so that a balanced view can be seen by all, I have stated my points. There shall be here as long as Nairaland can hold it and people will read and make up their minds. So permit me for facing more important issues than a man's vague dream like so many others people's.

So, I say Nope. I am not convinced. Sorry.

Readers, please follow this topic from above and decide what to believe.