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Dinakas:
Reading through people's opinions and I dunno what to say plus I want to say something. Personally, I think people are just confused. What is the problem with christianity? Is it that you don't believe in a God or you don't like the way so called Christians and pastors act in relation to the word of God?

Mind you if the latter is the reason, then there is a problem really. It is true that Christianity now has been lemme say manipulated and there are counterfeit forms that in realness is not christianity. If it's the way Christians and pastors behave that is bothering you, you have the bible which you are using to show they are doing wrong. Use it to live the way you see it according to the bible. Theirs shouldn't discourage you. If that's your problem, I have to say you are just looking for a way to get out of Christianity to do and believe whatever you choose.

Secondly, if your problem is there is no proof of God and you don't believe God, fine! Now you are talking. Well like some of you raised, it's your belief and one can't easily change that plus that's the same way I'd feel if someone tried to convert me out of Christianity. You all want to see proof and all before you believe. You call those of us that just believe dumb and backward, African mentality blah blah. Well this thing is by faith. I'm not pushing you out of your beliefs, God knows I can't really. It's only God that can do that for you. Some things as humans we can't understand cause we just can't reason to that extent. Our mentality is seeing before believing. Beautiful! It's quite reasonable I must agree but that's really our level as humans.

The truth is that some of us as Christians are not Christians because we were raised up as one. We are Christians because we have seen something that made us remain as one. One thing I tell people, is if you really have an encounter with God, you might backslide and all but in all you remember God that you encountered that day. Please insult Christians all you want and our "poor mentality". Be an atheist, I can't convert you, won't dare try.

One more thing, when we read the bible, we should read with understanding and ask Holy Spirit to help us with that and not read plainly like it's a story book or science. Even science and all the rest we think are logical are not logical in all. Some things need to be answered. Let's just not be confused.

God bless you...

Sorry but you still need a whole lot of work in your Christian life.. for starters this is not the appropirate forum for a sensitive issue as this.

goodguygonebad:
I wish, and really so wish there's a thread for intelligent, scholarly and empirical discussion on this matter. I am a theist, and I don't shy away from intellectual discussion with atheist or agnostics whatsoever.

Meanwhile, I will drop one of my favourite quotes that addresses the thoughts of atheists on the issue of good and evil. Listen to Ravi Zacharias

"A common objection to the existence of God goes something like this: "There cannot be a God, because there is too much evil in this world."
Here's the problem with that objection. When you say there's too much evil in this world you assume there's good. When you assume there's good, you assume there's such a thing as a moral law on the basis of which to differentiate between good and evil. But if you assume a moral law, you must posit a moral Law Giver, but that's Who you're trying to disprove and not prove. Because if there's no moral Law Giver, there's no moral law. If there's no moral law, there's no good. If there's no good, there's no evil."

Peace out for now

I hate to bust your bubble but that quote is an Internet joke to atheists today, too many empty presuppositions and misconceptions..

First encountered it as a Christian on thunderf00t videos on YouTube before becoming an atheist.

yolandy:
I have been around here for a while. I just created this new id to relate my problems here.

My husband of over 6 years has now become an outspoken atheist.......

You husband is NOT the problem, you're!

If you have right to believe in your imaginary God, he also has right to believe in anything he wants. He has never tried to impose his belief on you or force you to stop believing in your imaginary God. So why are you trying to do so to him?

I support your husband's atheism and I'm an atheist too. I came from a highly religious family and I did my secondary school education at a strict religious school. So I know religion like the back of my hand. We atheists are logical when discussing about religion. Christians firmly believe that Christianity is the truth, that their god created this world and is the king over all of it. It would almost be an act of unfaithfulness to deny their god's sovereignty and adopt a perspective that assumes the very opposite of their faith.

Let me touch on few of the things you wrote;

He opened up to me and told me 3 years after we got married. I was shocked but there was nothing I could do. He wasn't really a religious person before we got married and I wasn't as well(I was much more religious than him even at that time).
- I don't see how you would be surprised when he opened up to you, as you already knew he wasn't religious before and after the marriage. And you also weren't religious until recent, which you confirmed. So what's the point? Your husband never changed, you're the one who changed.

Now I have an amazing relatioship with God. I take it very seriously, and I put God first in my life. My husband does not. He doesn't rub his atheism on my face, we don't talk about religion, even when we do, it is always me that brings it up but, he sometimes listens and sometimes dismiss what I am saying with a wave of hand or with a laugh.
- No matter how you became close to your imaginary God, you can't expect your husband to do the same (he's smart to know it's bulls*hit), the same way you wouldn't want him to rub his atheism on your face or force you to become an atheist. Doesn't he have right to choose what he believes? He also has right to dismiss c*rap when he hears one. Religion is c*rap! It is laughable seeing religious people struggling to defend their imaginary God.

He is a very good man and an excellent husband, he takes very good care of me and my 2 kids, he loves us to death, and does his duty as a father and a husband excellently. I can't wish for a better man.
- You see? He doesn't need religion to be a good man or do good! Being religious does NOT make you better behaved! Religion brainwashes and mind-controls people into feeling unnecessarily guilty!

He is not the type to engage in and argument over religion because he is very smart and always wins. I have seen 3 people engage him and they ended up losing the argument to him. He is widely read and cleaver so I can't even go into an argument with him. His mind is already made up.
- He wins because he makes sense. You confirmed he's smart and well read, shouldn't that at least, encourage you to give his point of view a thought? If you find it hard to argue with him due to his cleverness, don't you think you're unable to defend your imaginary God? His mind was already made up when he realized that religion was c*rap.

The problem I have right now is that he is becoming outspoken about his unbelief, back in the days he just keeps it to himself, these days I see him openly mocking and deriding pastors, believers, and anything that has to do with religion
- Religious people speak up and sometimes disturb everyone else around them with their cr*ap religion. So why won't he speak up about his own belief? That's one of the differences between atheists and theists. Atheism doesn't dictate or try to control anyone, it only debunks religion with facts, which can't be said of theism.

Last week his elder brother had a heart attack(we live in the same estate), while his brother's wife and family were praying for him, my husband who is a doctor came and told them to shut up and allow him do what he can, he said instead of wasting their time praying to an imaginary God they should go and get the car ready to take him to the hospital because taking him to the hospital is what will save his life not some empty prayers to an imaginary God. Every body was shocked.
- It's heartbreaking that a man was having a heart attack and the only thing you religious nuts did was to pray to your imaginary God instead of rushing the poor guy to the hospital!! You people are so brainwashed to an extreme level of lack of logical reasoning! This is one of the reasons why religion is very dangerous. Your husband saved the man from you religious zombies. The sick guy was lucky your husband came to his rescue! In fact, your husband was the God the man had at that particular moment. Your husband should be celebrated and honored for saving a life!
Many sick religious f*ools have died praying, instead of seeking medical attention! If prayer works, how many have they healed in the hospital? What stops your pastor from going to hospitals to pray away illnesses and heal people? He won't because religion is a sham!

Atheists believe in Science. Science have saved and is still saving millions of lives every day. Your imaginary God have saved none! Modern-Day Technology has prolonged human life expectancy. Science is true whether you believe it or not!

Most people I know now dislike him greatly for his unbelief. Rumors are circulating that he is in a secret cult. My pastor and friends in church don't like him. His family dislike him as well but they can't confront him
- I'm sure he doesn't give a f*uck about who hates him for his belief. Of course, your pastor won't be happy that he exposes religion as a c*rap. He feeds off his d*umb congregation. Your husband is spoiling his business and income.
When one speaks against religion, religious people attack verbally and sometimes become violent. You dare not speak against their imaginary God. Religion breeds hate and violence! In the bible, people committed unimaginable atrocities in the name of God, and still happens today.

He then said he will wait for our kids to grow up some more before letting them know his position. But I fear with his present outspoken attitude, he will try to poison their young minds and tell them that all the stories inside the Bible are all lies the way he tells any body that comes his way to either preach to him or engage him in any discussion about religion.
- He's not poisoning the kids's minds, you are. You're brainwashing your children with your sick religion, and expect their father to not tell them the truth? In the bible, do you know that your imaginary God slaughtered many babies?
I've no issues with my wife being religious because she's an adult and can have any belief she wants. But what I don't accept is brainwashing children with religious nonsense! I want my son to make the decision by himself when he becomes an adult, to either accept religion or not. I told my 6 yr old to see bible as a literature and not as a factual book of history.

What if something happens to me? I know my kids will become atheist like him, because he will poison their minds. What do I do now? I am really confused.
- Your kids will do very well without your religion. You're the one poisoning their innocent minds with c*rap! Allow them to grow up and make the decision by themselves. Religion has caused more evil than good in this world.

Celebrate your husband, he's a good and intelligent man who saves lives! If you want your sick religion to destroy your wonderful marriage, then go ahead! You won't be the first or last to do it.

Just keep praying, God will show him a sign in due time... Even (p)saul the father of all atheist later preached the gospel.

Against your wish though as per front page but nevertheles.... The light will shine at the end of the tunnel. Please dont become fanaticaly religious at this point in time, then give him all the love in the world, LOVE covers all.

yolandy:
I have been around here for a while. I just created this new id to relate my problems here.

My husband of over 6 years has now become an outspoken atheist. He has been one all along but he has been keeping it on the low. He opened up to me and told me 3 years after we got married. I was shocked but there was nothing I could do. He wasn't really a religious person before we got married and I wasn't as well(I was much more religious than him even at that time). I began to take my religion very seriously after we got married. Now I have an amazing relatioship with God. I take it very seriously, and I put God first in my life. My husband does not. He doesn't rub his atheism on my face, we don't talk about religion, even when we do, it is always me that brings it up but, he sometimes listens and sometimes dismiss what I am saying with a wave of hand or with a laugh. He is a very good man and an excellent husband, he takes very good care of me and my 2 kids, he loves us to death, and does his duty as a father and a husband excellently. I can't wish for a better man.

He is not the type to engage in and argument over religion because he is very smart and always wins. I have seen 3 people engage him and they ended up losing the argument to him. He is widely read and cleaver so I can't even go into an argument with him. His mind is already made up. The problem I have right now is that he is becoming outspoken about his unbelief, back in the days he just keeps it to himself, these days I see him openly mocking and deriding pastors, believers, and anything that has to do with religion and I am not comfortable with that. Last week his elder brother had a heart attack(we live in the same estate), while his brother's wife and family were praying for him, my husband who is a doctor came and told them to shut up and allow him do what he can, he said instead of wasting their time praying to an imaginary God they should go and get the car ready to take him to the hospital because taking him to the hospital is what will save his life not some empty prayers to an imaginary God. Every body was shocked. His actions like these get me very worried. He is now very open about his unbelief and uses it to mock people that come to talk to him about God or religion. Most people I know now dislike him greatly for his unbelief. Rumors are circulating that he is in a secret cult. My pastor and friends in church don't like him. His family dislike him as well but they can't confront him. People now see me as "the wife of that devil" and I am not comfortable with it at all.

Some days ago I over heard him suggesting to my 6 years old son that the stories in the Bible are mere stories. It started when my son asked him why he doesn't pray together with us. I confronted him and he said he just wanted the boy to know how he feels about the Bible. He then said he will wait for our kids to grow up some more before letting them know his position. But I fear with his present outspoken attitude, he will try to poison their young minds and tell them that all the stories inside the Bible are all lies the way he tells any body that comes his way to either preach to him or engage him in any discussion about religion. We aren't having any problems now but I fear that his increasing outspokenness about his atheism will bring problems in our marriage sooner or later. I just hope he will keep quite and keep everything to himself they way he used to before but he won't. I have talked to him but he won't listen. He doesn't go about telling people that they should become atheist like him, but the way he goes about mocking religion and believers when ever the topic comes up is driving me mad. I really fear for our kids. What if something happens to me? I know my kids will become atheist like him, because he will poison their minds. What do I do now? I am really confused. I need advice from matured minds here. Please this should not be taken to the front page. I just want to read the contributions of the matured minds in here. Thank you

@DedeNkem , your points are all valid but nevertheless I know some very dedicated atheists.
Let me break the story a little. My dad has two close friends , very very close like they have been together as friends for more than 3 decades. 1 of them is an Cross Bearer ( Grail Message) and the other is an atheist since 1966 after Biafra lost the war.

Let me educate you on some things.

1. They have remained friends without any arguments.
2. They respect their beliefs and do not talk about it in any way , no body rubs anything in any one's face.
3. They are married with grown kids and they insist that their kids received care from their MOTHERS and it is only normal that children cling to their mums and on that stance ,BRAINWASHING has nothing to do with it but rather what principles they believe in,lye with their moms, if they choose to change,it will defintely not be by blacklisting any religion as false.
4. Your undertone is filled with vile and hate, you cant co-exist with others amicably,as your choice for vulgar words is defintely a detour from the subject matter.
5. Is there a supreme being, Yes, how we choose to adress his supremacy is based on choices.

MY 5 points are valid to over a million readers, that I am sure about.... HOLA..

DedeNkem:
You husband is NOT the problem, you're!

If you have right to believe in your imaginary God, he also has right to believe in anything he wants. He has never tried to impose his belief on you or force you to stop believing in your imaginary God. So why are you trying to do so to him?

I support your husband's atheism and I'm an atheist too. I came from a highly religious family and I did my secondary school education at a strict religious school. So I know religion like the back of my hand. We atheists are logical when discussing about religion. Christians firmly believe that Christianity is the truth, that their god created this world and is the king over all of it. It would almost be an act of unfaithfulness to deny their god's sovereignty and adopt a perspective that assumes the very opposite of their faith.

Let me touch on few of the things you wrote;

He opened up to me and told me 3 years after we got married. I was shocked but there was nothing I could do. He wasn't really a religious person before we got married and I wasn't as well(I was much more religious than him even at that time).
- I don't see how you would be surprised when he opened up to you, as you already knew he wasn't religious before and after the marriage. And you also weren't religious until recent, which you confirmed. So what's the point? Your husband never changed, you're the one who changed.

Now I have an amazing relatioship with God. I take it very seriously, and I put God first in my life. My husband does not. He doesn't rub his atheism on my face, we don't talk about religion, even when we do, it is always me that brings it up but, he sometimes listens and sometimes dismiss what I am saying with a wave of hand or with a laugh.
- No matter how you became close to your imaginary God, you can't expect your husband to do the same (he's smart to know it's bulls*hit), the same way you wouldn't want him to rub his atheism on your face or force you to become an atheist. Doesn't he have right to choose what he believes? He also has right to dismiss c*rap when he hears one. Religion is c*rap! It is laughable seeing religious people struggling to defend their imaginary God.

He is a very good man and an excellent husband, he takes very good care of me and my 2 kids, he loves us to death, and does his duty as a father and a husband excellently. I can't wish for a better man.
- You see? He doesn't need religion to be a good man or do good! Being religious does NOT make you better behaved! Religion brainwashes and mind-controls people into feeling unnecessarily guilty!

He is not the type to engage in and argument over religion because he is very smart and always wins. I have seen 3 people engage him and they ended up losing the argument to him. He is widely read and cleaver so I can't even go into an argument with him. His mind is already made up.
- He wins because he makes sense. You confirmed he's smart and well read, shouldn't that at least, encourage you to give his point of view a thought? If you find it hard to argue with him due to his cleverness, don't you think you're unable to defend your imaginary God? His mind was already made up when he realized that religion was c*rap.

The problem I have right now is that he is becoming outspoken about his unbelief, back in the days he just keeps it to himself, these days I see him openly mocking and deriding pastors, believers, and anything that has to do with religion
- Religious people speak up and sometimes disturb everyone else with their fantasy religion. So why won't he spoke up about his own belief? That's one of the differences between atheists and theists. Atheism doesn't dictate or try control anyone, it only debunks religion with facts, which can't be said of theism.

Last week his elder brother had a heart attack(we live in the same estate), while his brother's wife and family were praying for him, my husband who is a doctor came and told them to shut up and allow him do what he can, he said instead of wasting their time praying to an imaginary God they should go and get the car ready to take him to the hospital because taking him to the hospital is what will save his life not some empty prayers to an imaginary God. Every body was shocked.
- It's heartbreaking that a man was having a heart attack and the only thing you religious nuts did was to pray to your imaginary God instead of rushing the poor guy to the hospital!! You people are so brainwashed to an extreme level of lack of logical reasoning! This is one of the reasons why religion is very dangerous. Your husband saved the man from you religious zombies. The sick guy was lucky your husband came to his rescue! In fact, your husband was the God the man had at that particular moment. Your husband should be celebrated and honored for saving a life!
Many sick religious f*ools have died praying, instead of seeking medical attention! If prayer works, how many have they healed in the hospital? What stops your pastor from going to hospitals to pray away illnesses and heal people? He won't because religion is a sham!

Atheists believe in Science. Science have saved and is still saving millions of lives every day. Your imaginary God have saved none! Modern-Day Technology has prolonged human life expectancy. Science is true whether you believe it or not!

Most people I know now dislike him greatly for his unbelief. Rumors are circulating that he is in a secret cult. My pastor and friends in church don't like him. His family dislike him as well but they can't confront him
- I'm sure he doesn't give a f*uck about who likes him for his belief. Of course, your pastor won't be happy that he exposes religion as a c*rap. He feeds off his d*umb congregation. Your husband is spoiling his business and income.
When one speaks against religion, religious people attack verbally and sometimes become violent. You dare not speak against their imaginary God. Religion breeds hate and violence! In the bible, people committed unimaginable atrocities in the name of God, and still happens today.

He then said he will wait for our kids to grow up some more before letting them know his position. But I fear with his present outspoken attitude, he will try to poison their young minds and tell them that all the stories inside the Bible are all lies the way he tells any body that comes his way to either preach to him or engage him in any discussion about religion.
- He's not poisoning the kids's minds, you are. You're brainwashing your children with your sick religion, and expect their father to not tell them the truth? In the bible, do you know that your imaginary God slaughtered many babies?
I've no issues with my wife being religious because she's an adult and can have any belief she wants. But what I don't accept is brainwashing children with religious nonsense! I want my son to make the decision by himself when he becomes an adult, to either accept religion or not. I told my 6 yr old to see bible as a literature and not as a factual book of history.

What if something happens to me? I know my kids will become atheist like him, because he will poison their minds. What do I do now? I am really confused.
- Your kids will do very well without your religion. You're the one poisoning their innocent minds with c*rap! Allow them to grow up and make the choice by themselves. Religion has caused more evil than good in this world.

Celebrate your husband, he's a good and intelligent man who save lives!

ronkebp:
My dear if you are a true christian, then you will know what to do. Don't allow the devil to destroy your home by his pranks. The most annoying part is that as a christain once you are married you cannot, divorce your spouse on religion grounds, so if you are thinking it, do away with that thought.

My advice, pray for him specially, remember the Bible, if God does not call them to Himself, there is nothing you can do. My dear this is the time for you to tighten up your belt, if you would normally sleep for 8 hours at night, reduce it to 6 so that you can be up praying for two hours, even if it is 30 mins, God answers, You need to pray for him ( your hubby) that God should show HIMSELF in his life for your sake and that of your children.
Who knows if God allowed the marraige so that you can stand in the gap for him. Do not let you faith to be affected, God will always come through.
Don't argue with him over anything, just smile when he starts to quote wikipedia or guiness world book of record, still love keep loving him, The Lord is your strength.

Wonderful advice!

andyanders:
Madam, I feel for you and can understand where you are coming from.If you can try go to SCOAN and get anointing water or for prayers, God will intervene.
Note, you cannot handle this physically as it is a thing of the spirit. I pray God to arrest him like Saul and change him to Paul and he will end up preaching the word

This has to the most useless advice so far....lemme keep reading the comments sha...maybe someone will bench u

I never knew we have this much atheist in Nigeria, but what am reading now in NL is making my Jaw drop!

Everybody is entitled to his or her belief but what I don't like is the imposition of ones belief to another, even to innocent children, the children of the family are not the man's neither the woman's, but both, I see no reason why your husband will impose his beliefs on your innocent children without your assent, that for me is wrong! My bible said to those who mislead little ones, it is better for a stone to be tied round your neck and thrown to the sea than for you to mislead them.

As a Christian, what I would advise is for you to talk to God, Pray! Miracles convince atheist, I have read of an atheist that was converted on his deathbed, another when God performed a miracle right in his eyes, they always see things in the physical, ask God to show him who He really is. Most Doctors are atheist but the best surgeons even acknowledges God's power!

To the atheist, 'God exists, He's everywhere, in the air we breathe, He's always close to you, He knows you, your un-acknowledgement of God does not belittle Him, it does not make him less God, he will still bless you with the good things of life even when you ignore him, the bible says 'He allows the sun to shine on the good an evil alike' if you acknowledge him, you will stand out! St Thomas Aquinas says 'To those who believe, no explanation is necessary, To those who do not believe, no explanation will be sufficient'...God Bless You!

Op, i read pple's responses and some are not providing any help. Rather they are trying to make u accept d sitiation and manage to live wit it, suggesting the good relationship you enjoh with your husband compesates for this lapses. That is not correct, you can have a good happy christian home!
Dont b discouraged, you have a vision,an idea of what you want your family to be. Pursue that vision with all seriousness in a place of prayer, the goodnews is that that vision is achievable. The Bible says "all things are possible to him/her that belives". Don't disturb yourself about the present state, keep the vision of what you want active and alive and just keep praying. Leave the rest for God and He will proof Himself mighty in your family. Please look for this film and watch it "WAR ROOM " it wil be of great help and a blessing to you. Remain blessed.

Mikollon1:
Point to me a piece of research that authored those figures.

Or you just pulled it out of ur he-say-she-say imagination?

no mind them, most of them believe in the LUCY myth

bayulll011:
Madam I understand perfectly what u re passing through,all I can say is God will touch him,u see only a fool will say there is No God,be calm,talk to him in a good manner,don't be rude,most nigerian pastors re not helping matters also but what can we say,Jesus is the light of the world,and anybody that does not believe in him is doomed,for ur sake heaven will visit him,I love the fact that he's very smart,I will share one conversation between a professor and eistein here,try and engage him but during happy hour,about being a cultist I don't believe he belong to any,even cultist known that there is God.keep calm,be prayerful and behave as a christian woman God will touch him

oh that same ol 'Professor Einstein' ish. That was'nt Einstein,he was an Atheist.

Haha i have caught oga seun reading. Oya u sef contribute your 2 cents

hi OP. all through your write-up all I could see was an opportunity. the fact that he was silent since had made you comfortable. God shook you out of your comfort zone because your husband needs to be saved. You don't need to confront him or fight God's battle for him. all you need do is get down on your knees and more than ever show your husband genuine love. The God you serve is big enough to take care of himself and show up when he needs to.

darkhorizon:
Haha i have caught oga seun reading. Oya u sef contribute your 2 cents

She should know that the reason her husband wins every argument is because he's right. It's easier to win arguments when you're right.

plaetton:
Madam, this is exactly the problems we athiest have with religion.You have a loving husband whom you have loved and admired all this while and who has also loved you uncoditionally despite your religiousity.Now you are just beginning to feel uncomfortable about his athiesm. Why? Because of what others (religious folks ) are insinuating? Why is so hard to tolerate people who do not share your religious beliefs? Would you have prefered to be married to the so-called born again religous pretenders who outwardly profess regiousity but whose hearts are dark pits, than to a non-petensious reality-oriented man whose heart and mind is transparent to you at all times?

Have you reckoned that the problem might be with you and the increase in your religious zeal? Are you surprised that your pastor does not like him? How do u expect a pastor to like someone whom he cannot manipulate and sap? You are exhibiting the typical symptoms. Soon they will start seeing visions and prophesies about how your husband is evil and is going to do this or that to you and your children.
There is nothing in this world that divides people more than religion. Religion can destory your home if you allow it to do so.Your home should be your church. The love of your husband and children should be your sanctuary.
I guarantee that You cannot find in a church, what you cannot find in your home-namely love,sincerity,respect and peace.

I am an athiest who is married to a born again wife. I made my position know from the start and we have lived happily. I go to church with her from time to time. But I have grown waery of the "name it and claim it" theology of the pentecostal preachers,so I do not go anymore. I put my foot down on no night vigils, retreats,house fellowships, and midweek service. Otherwise, I try not to interfere. I find that is her church members who always want to make our religious difference an issue. I always put them in their right place.
As for my children, I have already succeeded in planting seeds of doubts in thier young minds, which for me ,is sufficient enough to help them develope the healthy skeptism necessary to intelligently discern


life and reality, hopefully, from both a philosophycal and scientific perspectives rather than from religious perspective.

I do not see any problems in you family except the one that your religious peers are pressuring you to create.
Take note that the increase in your religious zeal is and will be directly proportional to the level of tension,resentment and ultimately, distrust in your household. I hope you make wise decisions.

Big support of the statement.

Religion is the opium of the people quoted by Karl Marx.

Presuppositions and Misconceptions? Please point them out bro.

davien:
I hate to bust your bubble but that quote is an Internet joke to atheists today, too many empty presuppositions and misconceptions..

First encountered it as a Christian on thunderf00t videos on YouTube before becoming an atheist.

My dear, be bold enough to walk out of that marriage. Before he instills his belief in your son. You can pray 4 ur husband from ur comfort zone, ie away from him. It's not going to be easy but that's d bitter truth. You can't change a man it's only God that can do so. Pls get d book titled d road God walks. God bless you.

tegabetty:
My dear, be bold enough to walk out of that marriage. Before he instills his belief in your son.

His belief is part of what made him the person that the OP chose to marry, so it can't be that bad. Besides, the 1 Corinthians 7:13 says she must not divorce him: "if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him."

Safe to say Seun supports Atheism or he is an atheist himself. Haha

Seun:
She should know that the reason her husband wins every argument is because he's right. It's easier to win arguments when you're right.

Yolandy, pray for him and be patient.

My father wasn't too keen on religion but he was definitely not an atheist either. My mom tried to get him interested in church but he wasn't so she left him alone.

Twent five years after, he suddenly began going by himself and became a staunch member. It's one of the reasons I don't feel bad about his passing on because I know he died in the Lord.

Pray for him any chance you get,put prayer requests for him in church or any prayer gathering. Let God do the work, if God could find Paul, he will find your husband at the right time.

Forget all these atheists, I pity them because they haven't felt the supernatural. When you experience God personally, you can never open your mouth to say He doesn't exist.

Seun:
His belief is part of what made him the person that the OP chose to marry, so it can't be that bad. Besides, the 1 Corinthians 7:13 says she must not divorce him: "if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him."

your knowledge of the bible is incredible, yet you don't believe in it content. What an irony.

yolandy:
I have been around here for a while. I just created this new id to relate my problems here.

My husband of over 6 years has now become an outspoken atheist. He has been one all along but he has been keeping it on the low. He opened up to me and told me 3 years after we got married. I was shocked but there was nothing I could do. He wasn't really a religious person before we got married and I wasn't as well(I was much more religious than him even at that time). I began to take my religion very seriously after we got married. Now I have an amazing relatioship with God. I take it very seriously, and I put God first in my life. My husband does not. He doesn't rub his atheism on my face, we don't talk about religion, even when we do, it is always me that brings it up but, he sometimes listens and sometimes dismiss what I am saying with a wave of hand or with a laugh. He is a very good man and an excellent husband, he takes very good care of me and my 2 kids, he loves us to death, and does his duty as a father and a husband excellently. I can't wish for a better man.

He is not the type to engage in and argument over religion because he is very smart and always wins. I have seen 3 people engage him and they ended up losing the argument to him. He is widely read and cleaver so I can't even go into an argument with him. His mind is already made up. The problem I have right now is that he is becoming outspoken about his unbelief, back in the days he just keeps it to himself, these days I see him openly mocking and deriding pastors, believers, and anything that has to do with religion and I am not comfortable with that. Last week his elder brother had a heart attack(we live in the same estate), while his brother's wife and family were praying for him, my husband who is a doctor came and told them to shut up and allow him do what he can, he said instead of wasting their time praying to an imaginary God they should go and get the car ready to take him to the hospital because taking him to the hospital is what will save his life not some empty prayers to an imaginary God. Every body was shocked. His actions like these get me very worried. He is now very open about his unbelief and uses it to mock people that come to talk to him about God or religion. Most people I know now dislike him greatly for his unbelief. Rumors are circulating that he is in a secret cult. My pastor and friends in church don't like him. His family dislike him as well but they can't confront him. People now see me as "the wife of that devil" and I am not comfortable with it at all.

Some days ago I over heard him suggesting to my 6 years old son that the stories in the Bible are mere stories. It started when my son asked him why he doesn't pray together with us. I confronted him and he said he just wanted the boy to know how he feels about the Bible. He then said he will wait for our kids to grow up some more before letting them know his position. But I fear with his present outspoken attitude, he will try to poison their young minds and tell them that all the stories inside the Bible are all lies the way he tells any body that comes his way to either preach to him or engage him in any discussion about religion. We aren't having any problems now but I fear that his increasing outspokenness about his atheism will bring problems in our marriage sooner or later. I just hope he will keep quite and keep everything to himself they way he used to before but he won't. I have talked to him but he won't listen. He doesn't go about telling people that they should become atheist like him, but the way he goes about mocking religion and believers when ever the topic comes up is driving me mad. I really fear for our kids. What if something happens to me? I know my kids will become atheist like him, because he will poison their minds. What do I do now? I am really confused. I need advice from matured minds here. Please this should not be taken to the front page. I just want to read the contributions of the matured minds in here. Thank you

have you seen a movie "war room" if not do so it has your solution

tegabetty:
My dear, be bold enough to walk out of that marriage. Before he instills his belief in your son. You can pray 4 ur husband from ur comfort zone, ie away from him. It's not going to be easy but that's d bitter truth. You can't change a man it's only God that can do so. Pls get d book titled d road God walks. God bless you.

Wow am surprised
The husband too should walk away from the marriage too because the child is his son too
Please and please I can teach my son whatever I feel is best for him
You guys are yarning like you are very very sure of religion
Well the husband is sure of is athiesm too and he feels HIS son should go his way abeg.
How come the wife can teach the son her religion things but the husband can't teach his own when they both gave birth to him

Seun:
His belief is part of what made him the person that the OP chose to marry, so it can't be that bad. Besides, the 1 Corinthians 7:13 says she must not divorce him: "if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him."

My eyes on you until you reply me

Meanwhile, you are full of literary devices!

repogirl:
Yolandy, pray for him and be patient.

My father wasn't too keen on religion but he was definitely not an atheist either. My mom tried to get him interested in church but he wasn't so she left him alone.

Twent five years after, he suddenly began going by himself and became a staunch member. It's one of the reasons I don't feel bad about his passing on because I know he died in the Lord.

Pray for him any chance you get,put prayer requests for him in church or any prayer gathering. Let God do the work, if God could find Paul, he will find your husband at the right time.

Forget all these atheists, I pity them because they haven't felt the supernatural. When you experience God personally, you can never open your mouth to say He doesn't exist.

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ronkebp:
I really don't know where the ''intelligence'' lies, when you cannot intelligently prove to me or others that there is no GOD. only when that has been proven, then i can hit my chest and say ''An Atheist is an intelligent man or woman''.

Lol. No, ma'am. In law, there's an aphorism, "he who asserts must prove."

If that aphorism is anything to go by, you're the one who needs to prove the existence of God and you must do this with solid evidences that are verifiable and can be subjected to perusal by objective, disinterested folks.

MizTyna:
You beat me to it. She's just dreaming up issues. He is a good man,caring,loving,great husband and father. Let her see what bible thumping guys are up to in my inbox. We need to apply sense here. The guy does not even stop her from going to church. Atheists are never the problem,it is the so called 'christians' who feel the need to defend their God and shove their beliefs down our throats!

So you're atheist. Good one.