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| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by coolscott(m): 2:56am On Nov 16, 2015*. Modified: 3:32am On Nov 16, 2015 |
SonOfEl:[size=13pt]I have quoted a researched academic work. This things are well known. I feel certain there are other sources as you can see McCall, John Christensen also quoted the works he researched while getting his info (the way humans do things nowadays). But you have quoted absolutely nowhere but out your head. How can anyone take you seriously? And I noticed in quoting me, you altered what I initially typed. I don't know if that is a mistake on your part or not. But if it is not a mistake, that is actually fraud. https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=hHTE0UWRdLQC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=ohafia+men+building+port+harcourt&source=bl&ots=RtlEh3sotc&sig=UtF0TF-xmqgdPcd83cFM2bR1pOA&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=ohafia%20men%20building%20port%20harcourt&f=false [/size]
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| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by SonOfEl(m): 3:05am On Nov 16, 2015 |
Your food down done coolscott SonOfEl: |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by coolscott(m): 3:30am On Nov 16, 2015 |
SonOfEl:[size=13pt]McCall, John Christensen (2000). Dancing histories: heuristic ethnography with the Ohafia Igbo. University of Michigan Press. p. 75. ISBN 0-472-11070-5.[/size] https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=hHTE0UWRdLQC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=ohafia+men+building+port+harcourt&source=bl&ots=RtlEh3sotc&sig=UtF0TF-xmqgdPcd83cFM2bR1pOA&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=ohafia%20men%20building%20port%20harcourt&f=false
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| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by SonOfEl(m): 3:45am On Nov 16, 2015 |
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| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 5:47am On Aug 25, 2016 |
[s] Eastlink:[/s]h East link it is clear you are an igbo man, so why all these lies and who gave you right to speak for Opubo ama, are you the amanyanabo or even an amaopusenibo, Opobo is Ibani Ijaw, talk about your wretched village in the south east that you know...ipob idxot |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by macluvph1(m): 7:39am On Aug 25, 2016 |
AjiereTuwo:Lil Child(i called you this name cos of your above childish comment)wake up from your sleep. the simple answer is this lets call an Opobo man and ikwerre man to speak there language and tell and ibo man,hausa man and yoruba man to interprete what thay said so anybody that can accurately interprete that should have a claim of whatsoever people are debating on nairaland. this is not a case of a yoruba man or hausa man detecting for we ikwerre's on who to take as our brother. our elders might have done the wrong thing in the past and we the youths stand to correct that. We don't depend on our yesterdays we look up for tomorrow, and i see the OP is still hanging on yesterday. if we are still depending on yesterday actions today there won't be niger delta avengers. Food for thought. |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by ariesbull: 8:09am On Aug 25, 2016 |
macluvph1:My collegue is from opobo and he sees himself as Igbo |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by PFRB: 10:07am On Aug 25, 2016 |
SonOfEl:I have lived in Port Harcourt since 1984. ""Ïgwe Ocha"" is the name Ikwerre people call Port Harcourt. |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by obailala(m): 11:09am On Aug 25, 2016 |
Opobo is an Igbo speaking town, don't know about their history or origins but I have a couple of friend from there who openly agree they are Igbo. From my observation, they are the only Rivers Igbo speaking people 'I know personally' who accept they are Igbo. However, I'm just wondering what Opobo being Igbo has to do with the topic; have they declared for Biafra? |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Flyingngel(m): 11:44am On Aug 25, 2016 |
[quote author=Klinee post=39976149]Biafra army never kill or attack anybody who are from present day SE/SS, its hausa/fulani soldiers that kill them. Biafra soldiers dont kill or attack innocent civillians whether they eastern,western or northerner. But hausa/fulani soldier want kill any living thing that exist in SE/SS because they are animals. They kill both old and young,men or women and u want us to be togather? Taaa, u r lying. In my village in Ikot Abasi Biafra kill my people because they didn't want to join them. |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 2:16pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
ariesbull:Big lie..let your colleague speak for himself not you, btw whats is dat ur colleagues name lier lets see whether his surname is not an Ijaw name |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 2:20pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
obailala:Opobo hasnt ever accepted being Igbo, opubo ama that is part of Ijaw youth congress, so stop peddling these lies without evidence. I wonder why Igbos twist history this much. A town that has an Amanyanabo and bears Ibani Ijaw names suddenly becomes Igbo because of nairaland biafra bigots |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 2:27pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
macluvph1:Hear is one for you, let people Identify themselves for what they are, dont twist facts because of biafra agenda, I can never go to Ndoki land and tell them that they are Ijaw despite the fact that history says so because its dere free will to identify for themselves, but you Igbos tend to think d other way around like colonials, twisting facts because its online. Capiche |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by obailala(m): 2:33pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
AjiereTuwo:Well, I dont know about Opobo town coming together to collectively proclaim their ethnic roots. You can check my history, I am not a biafran bigot or whatever you call it, I just spoke purely out of my personal experience based on my personal encounter. I have 2 friends from Opobo and with their own mouths, they said they were Igbos and they speak Igbo. I also have a friend from Bonny who speaks Igbo fluently claims to be Igbo sometimes but other times, just states that he's a Bonny man. If they say it with their own mouth, who am I to oppose them? |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 2:47pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
obailala:These people of whom you speak are not Ibani people, no Ibani man will ever claim to be Igbo, we Ibani people have a language called Ibani egere, thats why you never see an Opobian bearing igbo names, the lga chairman of Opobo is Adonye diri( is this an Igbo name), Dakuku peterside atedo peterside adasa cookey these are all Ibani names so i find it quite wrong dat dese ppl will still claim Igbo while bearing Ibani names in an Ibani community with an Ibani king |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by rlauncher(m): 2:59pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
Enahi:Don't mind those land grabbers. In the past, they have attempted at grabbing the western region after succeeding at taking the Mid- west region until they met their waterloo at Ore in the present on Ondo State. |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by macluvph1(m): 3:06pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
AjiereTuwo:Mr man i don't need to debate with you because you argue out of ignorance. Really lagos-ibadan expressway lying media has brain washed you to the point of no return. Gbaru for yourself. |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by obailala(m): 3:11pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
AjiereTuwo:Well like I said, I was only just relaying my experience from an Opobian. Incidentally his name is also Adonye, he speaks Igbo fluently and when asked, he says he is; so who am I really to doubt or challenge him. |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 3:15pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
macluvph1:For your info I am an Ibani boy from Opubo ama, so excuse me for responding to your ludicrous comments about my people, I wont stoop to your level of ignorance, when you have been matched with evidence u say u don't want to debate, you are only fooling yourself. You are what we opobians call Oboribo |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by macluvph1(m): 3:23pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
[quote author=Flyingngel post=48787202][/quote]Please i stand to be corrected which part of ikot abasi did this your claim happened,is it Esene,Edemaya,ikot obong,Ibekwe,Ikpetim,Ette or Odoro atan because for long i have been visiting ikot abasi both ibos and ibibio live in peace apart from last year that some ibibio's from Edemaya kidnapped a prosperous young ibo lad(jon-kamsi) and killed him for nothing despite being paid some good ransome. But despite this provocation the ibo's still live in peace with the host communities. Honestly this cesspit nation has released demons as e-warriors for themselves to protect their evil activities but at the end light will surely win darkness. See the kind of information you disseminated just to bring up hatred among people,if truly you are from ikot abasi am dissappointed but i doubt you honestly. |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by PFRB: 3:23pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
[quote author=Flyingngel post=48787202][/quote]It was a conscription exercise. The Biafran govt introduced it when some able bodied young men were hiding from going to war. You see, that issue may be difficult for you to understand. My uncle was shot at the waist as he tried to run away. In the next kindred, there are those who were killed as they were running away from being conscripted. It happened all over Biafra. |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 3:24pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
obailala:If there exists such a person, he is bastard for denying his father land. How confused can one be that you will answer Adonye and claim to be Igbo, unless he is looking for a favor fron you...seems strange |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 3:28pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
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| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 3:30pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
[quote author=Flyingngel post=48787202][/quote]The biafran army also killed Ibani people(Opobo and Bonny) when they ran to the east. So I wonder wer all this Opobo,Bonny is Igbo when they hate these people with passion. Well we learn from our mistakes |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by macluvph1(m): 3:31pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
AjiereTuwo:Lol,you can't even pronunce the word or write(ibani instead of ubani and opubo instead of opobo) it correctly, Lie detector number 1 Please can you come up and tell me the families that make up Opobo nkoro then let me finish you up with facts. |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by obailala(m): 3:35pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
AjiereTuwo:Well, I would suppose there must be some Igbo ancestory somewhere else how do you explain the similarity in language? I totally do not understand the rationale of someone who speaks a language, or who in some cases, bears a similar name, but still feels infuriated when he/she is associated with the tribe. |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 3:40pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
macluvph1:The ignorance in this one is strong, Opobo is the Anglicized form of Opubo ama, the white couldn't pronounce Opubo so they called it opobo, the same way that Amakiri in Kalabari became amachree and Ibani is the Ijaw clan bonny and Opobo is from, Since you love opobo history so much go to this website and enlighten yourself http://opoboregatta.com/opobokingdom/about/index.html |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 3:45pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
macluvph1:The ignorance in this one is strong, Opobo is the Anglicized form of Opubo ama, the white couldn't pronounce Opubo so they called it opobo, the same way that Amakiri in Kalabari became amachree and Ibani is the Ijaw clan bonny and Opobo is from, Since you love opobo history so much go to this website and enlighten yourself about my kingdom http://opoboregatta.com/opobokingdom/about/index.html And mr man u cant finish me with facts because you are not from Opobo, Every true Opobian knows Nkoro is a different community |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by SlayerSupreme: 3:46pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
[s] AjiereTuwo:[/s] It's unfortunate you had to call them bastardss,so allllll the Opobo people who speak and identify as Igbo are bastards? To the best of my knowledge it is the Nkoro people that speak Ibani and identify as Ijaw though some understand Igbo too. They're not denying anybody. No need to call them Bastardss |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Flyingngel(m): 3:47pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
[quote author=macluvph1 post=48792921]Please i stand to be corrected which part of ikot abasi did this your claim happened,is it Esene,Edemaya,ikot obong,Ibekwe,Ikpetim,Ette or Odoro atan because for long i have been visiting ikot abasi both ibos and ibibio live in peace apart from last year that some ibibio's from Edemaya kidnapped a prosperous young ibo lad(jon-kamsi) and killed him for nothing despite being paid some good ransome. But despite this provocation the ibo's still live in peace with the host communities. Honestly this cesspit nation has released demons as e-warriors for themselves to protect their evil activities but at the end light will surely win darkness. See the kind of information you disseminated just to bring up hatred among people,if truly you are from ikot abasi am dissappointed but i doubt you honestly. Guy, I reply base on what was written, am not saying that ikot Abasi indegene are hostile to igbo people today rather am talking abt d biafra war. Pls don't mix it up. Forget abt Phillip Effiong, people of Cross River as at then didn't not want war it was d igbos that were dragging them in. That is if u r young and don't want to want to fight with them they kill u or if they want to take over d village and d villager refuse that is another problem .My family ran to ASONG IN MKPAT ENIN for safety. To ur question - yes I am from ETTE. AMANA ISONG EYEN ETTE KE NDO. am sure u can read d last part correctly. Beside am not here to instigate any e-war but rather to counter any information that I feel is adulterated |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 3:53pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
SlayerSupreme:I apologize for the strong word,Nkoro doesnt speak Ibani they speak defaka ijaw dialect closer to Okrika, but any Opobo man that tells you he is Igbo when he answers a name like Adonye Ogolo is truly lost |
| Re: Rivers Elders Reject Biafra by Nobody: 4:07pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
obailala:Is there any place in the world without mixture, anambra people say they came from benin, opobo came from bonny and there are no similar names. The people calling us Igbos are not from there, I am not one to be embroiled in an online argument but due to the way some individuals who potray my home town in a wrong way, I had to step up an enlighten those who are willing to listen, |
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