analice107:

Am not sure you read my post.

If you believe that atheists are not satanists then you are yet to discover your environment.

1. Out of greed and cheap popularity, pastors have taken the street into the church rather than taking the Church to the streets. Those pastor are not interested in the salvation of souls for which Christ died for. My question to you is, how are they faring Spiritually?
So you think the Church is a building and how populated it is?
A Church is where the power of the Holy Ghost is being made manifest. Not fabricated manifestations, not occultic induced manifestations. I mean undeniable manifestations.

2. You are very Funny. Jesus of Nazareth was a Jew, all his Apostles were Jews, his other followers were Jews. Jesus Christ did not come preaching outside of their holy book, He preached their religion. The colt was owned by Jew, the five loafs of bread was provided by a disciple.
This your analogy is not in any way connected to my points.

Seun is an Atheist. A man who will pay to see people turned away from Christ. The question is, why will he want to give out his money to further the Kingdom of Christ? Until that question,
*I no dey*

u definitely av a confused perspective..
He preached their religion and he was hated and crucified for it?
Lemme advice u to correct the notion u have that jesus was a jew...nah..do ur findings well...
he was mistaken to be a jew for reasons u seem not to know as I can see..
The things he needed for ministry were gotten from amongst the ppl who see him as being blasphemous and a heretic to their jewish doctrine, The same ones with conflicting religious views as his but, some put aside those religious differences and did their stuffs out of GOODWILL
If Jesus reasoned the way U do..he won't av allowed mary magdalene come close to him at all..smh
Was he crucified by atheists?
Don't mince humanism with religion..that makes u a religious fanatic(No offense)
Do u need to be in a religion b4 u knw it's good to help ppl in need?....NO
It's like u r abt to die in an accident and an Atheist or Muslim offers to help u out of Goodwill, then u refuse coz of religious differences...lolz

I av a rhetoric for U..
If we, the christians are doing our duty of selfless love as we preach to others..wud we need atheist in the 1st place to help donate?...
We'd rather allow pastors to buy private Jets and watch congregation languish..

analice107:

Am not sure you read my post.

If you believe that atheists are not satanists then you are yet to discover your environment.

1. Out of greed and cheap popularity, pastors have taken the street into the church rather than taking the Church to the streets. Those pastor are not interested in the salvation of souls for which Christ died for. My question to you is, how are they faring Spiritually?
So you think the Church is a building and how populated it is?
A Church is where the power of the Holy Ghost is being made manifest. Not fabricated manifestations, not occultic induced manifestations. I mean undeniable manifestations.

2. You are very Funny. Jesus of Nazareth was a Jew, all his Apostles were Jews, his other followers were Jews. Jesus Christ did not come preaching outside of their holy book, He preached their religion. The colt was owned by Jew, the five loafs of bread was provided by a disciple.
This your analogy is not in any way connected to my points.

Seun is an Atheist. A man who will pay to see people turned away from Christ. The question is, why will he want to give out his money to further the Kingdom of Christ? Until that question,
*I no dey*

Why do most christians automatically assume every non-christian individual to be Satanists?...
Once again ..religious fanatism
U really do need to check ur dico to be clear on this misnomer dat cud injure ur intellectual integrity pls..
A satanist is not same as an Atheist...
A satanist has a god..
An Atheist has no God...
stop seeing every non-christian as Evil
There are ppl who don't av a religion and av a better sense of Moral judgement than you cud possibly av

Ranchhoddas:
Then they are stupid. Religion makes people stupid.

i swear..
When winner01 creates some certain threads i'll just be laughing...
Atheists are treated the same way blacks and homosexuals are treated.

Anas09:

Hahahahahahahaha. Why do you see it as a threat?
we do this for love. Someone asked how we'll feel to see our loved ones in hell eternally. This is it, we cant stand seeing you in hell for ever, thats why we can't give you rest until u listen.
Honey, its not funny, Anyone who rejects Christ rejects eternal life.

Oh God!!!! I wish i have words to explain this. Its simple, because we still this breath, without it, its over. So, Its not a threat, its a fact .

Why do i believed this so strongly? The Bible which you call fairy tale book, prophesied about the coming of Jesus, He came.

It said, the jews will reject him, he was rejected,

It said, he will be kill in a certain way, at a certain point in time, it happened
It said for how much he wouls be sold, it happened exactly like that.
It priphesied how his clothes would be taken by gambling, it happenes.

It said none of his bones will be broken at dead, it happened exactly like that,

He told his disciples the exact day he will be killed and how long it will take him to resurrect, did it happen like that? Yes.

The Bible prophesied about people becoming haters of God, becoming so immoral, disobidiendt to parents, hatedul. Exchanging natural affections for the opposit sex to same sex, look around you, is it happening, Hell yes.

It prophesied that Christians shall be killed, and those killing them shall think they are doing God a service, are all these things happening? YES.

Jesus went away promising to send down the Holy Spirit, Did he? Yes he did.

He Warned us tonwatch out for, Wovles which will invade the church, tearing the sheep apart, pretending to come from him, performing decievable miracles which will lure people away from the Faith, Is it happening? Yes.


He said after Him false Prophets shall arise leading many astray, The Pope rose, false prophet Muhammed rose, Joseph Smith rose, Charles Tarse Russel rose, Jim Jones rose and many more are stil rising.

He said the gospel shall spread everywhere through the persecution of the faithful, has it? Yes.

He said he will return, Do you think he won't?

He said, anyone who rejects the New life he offers has rejected life eternal, and whoever doesnt have that life, shall spend eternity with the Grand rebel Lucifer, you think it wont happen? Really?

God did not create hellfire for anyone, it was for satan. But you right now rejects this life, this love, this gift, whose fault is it if you end up in hell?

Very funny. Those prophecies you speak of were made on the pages of the Bible and came to pass on those same pages... You take your eye see Jesus?

analice107:

Why should he care for Children? What purpose is there to save them? Aren't they bags of cells with no purpose?

Human beings are nothing but cells right? We have no purpose on earth, so why should he have the need to save them from distress?

On a normal day, his duty shd be to come there, try to make us see why we should be against God. He will blame the nonexistent God for the disaster which brought the distress in the first place.
His duty would be to blame God for everything and make us see how wicked God is to just sit there and watch us go through all that distress.

Why should he use his money to help deluded and brainwashed people who believe in a fairy tale?
You get my drift?

to be honest..u need help...big time

Anas09:

Love is an attribute of God.

Na you sabi o

Ranchhoddas:
Very funny. Those prophecies you speak of were made on the pages of the Bible and came to pass on those same pages... You take your eye see Jesus?

My very good example chatting with me right now YOU.

2 Peter 3:3-5 To begin with, you must know and understand this, that scoffers (mockers) will come in the last days with scoffing, [people who] walk after their own fleshly desires And say, Where is the promise of His coming?

For since the forefathers fell asleep, all things have continued exactly as they did from the beginning of creation.

For they willfully overlook and forget this [fact], that the heavens [came into] existence long ago by the word of God, and the earth also which was formed out of water and by means of water,

And,

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the apostasy comes first [unless the predicted great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition),


Have you seen yourself in the above verse?

You guys boast here how people especially the Westen world are dropping Faith and are rejecting Christ.

Before now, Europe was referred to as Catholic Europe, today its athiest Europe.

Before homosexuals hide, today its done openly. You want to compare sexual immorality today with 20years ago?

The rate of unclothedness on the streets.

Have you heard? Islam has legalized fathers having sex with their daughters from 9yrs old.

Children have taken the place of parents in the western world, it's called civilization. No more parental control.

You want to check drugs on the streets?

Guy, id you cant see these things, then somethings is really wrong somewhere.

If am not seeing these things happening, i woulsnt be concerned.
Anyways, enough said.

Weird thing religion can do.. the more your correct them, the more they're convinced they're right. common sense is indeed not common. A God that divides, separates and segregates based on beliefs not actions/values is love? Amazing indeed.

It's easier to just fool someone than to convince the person that he or she has been fooled.

FearGodAndLive:

Na you sabi o

As you no sabi the matter, leave am nah

FearGodAndLive:
Weird thing religion can do.. the more your correct them, the more they're convinced they're right. common sense is indeed not common. A God that divides, separates and segregates based on beliefs not actions/values is love? Amazing indeed.

Hear yourself

FearGodAndLive:
A God that divides, separates and segregates based on beliefs not actions/values is love? Amazing indeed.

A god that practices human tribalism, picking one human tribe over the other. But he created all human tribes.

MrMontella:

to be honest..u need help...big time

Am not related to you so why bother. Get the hell out.

MrMontella:

to be honest..u need help...big time

Am not related to you so why bother. Get the hell out.

MrMontella:

i swear..
When winner01 creates some certain threads i'll just be laughing...
Atheists are treated the same way blacks and homosexuals are treated.

I have a very strong feeling you are gay.

0ubenji:
Why do most christians automatically assume every non-christian individual to be Satanists?...
Once again ..religious fanatism
U really do need to check ur dico to be clear on this misnomer dat cud injure ur intellectual integrity pls..
A satanist is not same as an Atheist...
A satanist has a god..
An Atheist has no God...
stop seeing every non-christian as Evil
There are ppl who don't av a religion and av a better sense of Moral judgement than you cud possibly av

Hear you. Inside your mind now, you have said something very intelligent.

0ubenji:
u definitely av a confused perspective..
He preached their religion and he was hated and crucified for it?
Lemme advice u to correct the notion u have that jesus was a jew...nah..do ur findings well...
he was mistaken to be a jew for reasons u seem not to know as I can see..
The things he needed for ministry were gotten from amongst the ppl who see him as being blasphemous and a heretic to their jewish doctrine, The same ones with conflicting religious views as his but, some put aside those religious differences and did their stuffs out of GOODWILL
If Jesus reasoned the way U do..he won't av allowed mary magdalene come close to him at all..smh
Was he crucified by atheists?
Don't mince humanism with religion..that makes u a religious fanatic(No offense)
Do u need to be in a religion b4 u knw it's good to help ppl in need?....NO
It's like u r abt to die in an accident and an Atheist or Muslim offers to help u out of Goodwill, then u refuse coz of religious differences...lolz

I av a rhetoric for U..
If we, the christians are doing our duty of selfless love as we preach to others..wud we need atheist in the 1st place to help donate?...
We'd rather allow pastors to buy private Jets and watch congregation languish..

You are not a Christian sir, sorry to say this to you. Going to church doesn't culmunate into being a Christian.

Am not sure you even know what started this thread. Look at the Op again. An athiest community moved to give money to a christian organization, to help the work of God, *Which God?* The one who doesnt exist? And why will they do that?

Why did satan move to tell Jesus he will give all the Kingdoms of the world to him?


Guy, call me whatever you like. Keep your money, God can provide fir his work.

Anas09:

I have a very strong feeling you are gay.

wow..did the holy spirit reveal this to you?

FearGodAndLive:
Weird thing religion can do.. the more your correct them, the more they're convinced they're right. common sense is indeed not common. A God that divides, separates and segregates based on beliefs not actions/values is love? Amazing indeed.

Which God ?

What is your problem? When pastors take money you call them all sorts of derogatory names and even now that a pastor has rejected money, you still crying wolf.

The church doesn't need money from anyone who is against the christian faith.

Per the bolded, Christians get persecuted and killed all over the world, stop blaming victim.

MrMontella:

i swear..
When winner01 creates some certain threads i'll just be laughing...
Atheists are treated the same way blacks and homosexuals are treated.

Anas09:


You are not a Christian sir, sorry to say this to you. Going to church doesn't culmunate into being a Christian.

Am not sure you even know what started this thread. Look at the Op again. An athiest community moved to give money to a christian organization, to help the work of God, *Which God?* The one who doesnt exist? And why will they do that?

Why did satan move to tell Jesus he will give all the Kingdoms of the world to him?


Guy, call me whatever you like. Keep your money, God can provide fir his work.

i would av insulted you, but i'd choose to let it lie..

1. if u were actually reading to comprehension, u wud knw i am the OP, nd my post dictated what started this thread.. so that was a misfire from u.
2. Jesus never lacked the possession of kingdoms to have desired for what he had the power to have..and the temptation instance is parallel to this case that u tried to apply it to...jesus was never in need of territories, neither did he admit to such desire.
meanwhile, dis charity openly admitted to the public(which included donors from other religion) that they needed funds to cater for children..they never stated that they need funds for the work of God..
attending to the welfare of children has nutin to do with religion..that is simply humanism(christianity as well as other religions preaches that).....2nd misfire
3. I wonder what religious virtue lies in ur jurisdiction to deem me a christian or not?...u lack tact....3rd misfire
4. Read my Thread's topic(i mean both topics on this issue) well and its contents...to grasp the following
(a). Nowhere in the post was it stated that the Atheists donated to the work of God..the donations were for a charity home that happened to be owned by a baptist church.

(b). the church never stated anywhere in their campaign to solicit for funds, that only christian donors are allowed..sinx they knw dis is a humanitarian cause,they didnt bother to do such.

(c). the post never had in it that these children were strictly from christian parents...which means they set religious differences aside when trying to cater for their fellow humans out of goodwill(which u've, unfortunately mistaken to be solely the work of God)..if they set aside religious differences when taking these children in..what stops dem from doin so when the need arises to achieve the good cause they initiated?

(d). in the post(if u actually read it to comprehension), it's clear that the church rejected the money coz the man refused to erase his Atheists Foundation name as the donor...if he did..the church wud av accepted the moni..that is pure hypocrisy..

[size=15pt]Direct evidence(sinx deductive reasoning eluded u)[/size]: “She called my desk phone at work and told me that they would not be accepting our donation because it would go against everything they believe in,” Wilbourn said.
The employee told Wilbourn he would need to change the name on the donation in order for the home to accept the money, Wilbourn refused, and the employee said the money would be returned.
…
Wilbourn says an employee of the home told him they are primarily funded by the American Baptist Churches Association. He and his wife are the co-founders for the Muskogee Atheist Community.
Link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/08/23/an-oklahoma-charity-rejected-an-atheists-donation-so-hes-raising-more-until-they-say-yes/......

Anas09:

Hear you. Inside your mind now, you have said something very intelligent.

lolz..i stil wud not resort to derogatory comments to make a point in a debate...i'd rather opt for sarcasm

Religion can make even the best of us delusional

youngestland:


so what are you doing on nairaland, its seuns forum you know and hes an athiest

God bless u for this..
atleast the bible says in IIcorinthians 6:14 to be not unequally yoked with Seun. ...so they shud belong to a forum created by a christian...smh
yet, ppl like dem wud always scream Hosea 4:6

analice107, Anas09

trapQ:
What is your problem?

did i tell u i have one?

When pastors take money you call them all sorts of derogatory names and even now that a pastor has rejected money, you still crying wolf.

a pastor takes money from the poor and uses it to inflate his bank accounts..bt refuses to take money that will help the life of kids ur supposed god failed to provide adequately for..
I see no point u made..

The church doesn't need money from anyone who is against the christian faith.

do u buy stuffs from muslims in the market?
If u're a christian and you do.....shame on u..

Per the bolded, Christians get persecuted and killed all over the world, stop blaming victim.

read and understand...dont rush..
Comprehend !

FearGodAndLive:

I'd advise you read the parable of the Good Samaritan and get acquainted with the moral import of that little parable.
That's my little advice to you.

So how does the story relate to this ? I want to know why you posted this comment .

KingEbukasBlog:


So how does the story relate to this ? I want to know why you posted this comment .

You're on a long thing.

FearGodAndLive:

You're on a long thing.

I won't mock you , don't be afraid my child . I just want to know your reason please .

I really do not understand what the fuss is all about. Money was offered and money was rejected so what? The one who rejected the money saw no need for accepting the money on certain grounds...does he not have a right to reject a donation or a gift? Is there a law that states that all donations must be accepted?

The Atheist who donated the money can use it to set up a charity of his own if he feels so concerned and not fund one that is under the watchful eyes of the church and tomorrow turn around to say HE IS HELPING GOD TO FEED THE POOR SINCE GOD COULDNT DO IT..HE HAD TO.

The Atheist should gather more money and gather more atheists and encourage them to begin a charity of their own...that way he can be personally responsible.

Whoever opened this thread is trying to create an issue where there is none. Did the Charity say they were broke and needed cash? Charities are all over the place why the fuss over this particular one? Why is the Atheist focused on this particular one? If they rejected your money there then take it elsewhere shikena. Dem say dem no want you wan come force feed them with am? That is not goodness...that is being sadistic in a fun way.

theoneJabulani:
Religion can make even the best of us delusions

Huh ?

KingEbukasBlog:


I won't mock you , don't be afraid my child . I just want to know your reason please .

Sorry. I don't play with kids. You are one.

FearGodAndLive:

Sorry. I don't play with kids. You are one.

Young man , you made a comment and I asked for your reason . Why is it difficult for you to have a rational discussion ? I asked nicely for a confabulation with you and you showed no gravitas again .