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exmuslim1:
Oh please! That's some bullsh!t. If it had to do with race,

but Muhammad specifically mentioned that A BLACK MAN IS NOT INFERIOR TO AN ARAB, really you have no case.

Then the statement would be from a very very specific choice of words. Was Mohammed not being specific about the dream and omen hadith.

ive already explained this.

Was he not being specific when he compared the Satan to a black man.

quote the hadith here let everyone see your hypocrisy

note: I know this hadith.

Was he not being specific when he compared the head of a black man to a raisin?

Another misconception, it might interest you to kwow that there are many hadiths which indicate the prohibition of anti-African attitudes. In one, the pagan al-Harith ibn Hisham is shamed for expressing amazement that the honour of calling the adhan should have been conferred upon Bilal, an Abyssinian. In another hadith, we read: 'A red-faced (i.e. white) man is not superior to a black one; superiority is only in piety. You are all from Adam, and Adam is from dust.' (Bukhari and Muslim)

There is also the famous incident narrated by Ibn al-Mubarak in his Kitab al-Birr wa'l-Sila, in which [size=15pt]Abu Dharr (r.a.) asks Bilal (r.a.) to put his foot on Abu Dharr's head, because he fears that he has committed the sin of racism against his Abyssinian brother.[/size]

exmuslim1:
I didn't say it suggests slavery. But it's like you're having a hard time believing they had black slaves. My point is that somehow the symbolism for the portentous interpretation rests on a "black woman"

and have you thought about the words "UNKEPT HAIR"?

exmuslim1:
Good. Were Arabs not existing in clans and tribes before they were amalgamated. The Quran is very linguistic, it's statements have a time and age to their setting if you study it with an open mind. If you think some foreign Book was referring to us when our ancestors were in huts in their hamlets. You mister, are very wrong.

The Quran clearly said "OH MANKIND" or are you not from mankind?

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lexiconkabir:
Unfortunately all rasuls are nabis, i tell you, you know nothing.

He doesn't even know the difference between Rasul and nabiy. Even though there is no clear cut statement to proVe that Luqman was a prophet /messenger, he still erroneously insist he was a messenger.
I wonder if he got that from his jinn(s)

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exmuslim1:
He claimed blacks not inferior to Arabs, yet he bought and possessed black slaves. And yes I'll post the hadith- "I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks".
Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin." Sahih Bukhari 9:89:256. Muhammed claimed Blacks are not inferior to Arabs- why does Islam make it alright for an Arab to sell an offspring off if he or she is from a black slave. Where's the egalitarianism here? when A'isha (Muhammad's wife) had a maid-slave who was an Arab, Muhammad said to A'isha, `Set this maid free because she is from the children of Ishmael.'" Ibn Tamiyya Vol 31. Oh, enslaved descendants of Ishmael get special treatment right. And what about Arabs and their pride and Muhammed's followers and their unquenchable thirst for blood- Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah’s Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us. Al Tabari Vol 9.
Also, Narrated Jabir bin Samura: I heard the Prophet saying, "There will be twelve Muslim rulers (who will rule all the Islamic world)." He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said, "All of them (those rulers) will be from Quraish." Sahih Bukharin 9:89:329. Should this religion you love so much not give an equal opportunity to you. But no, they display their Arab supremacy openly but you still don't accept it.
The most hateful among the creation of Allah us one black man among them (Khwarij). One of his hand is like the teat of a goat or the nipple of the breast. When 'Ali b. Abu Talib (Allah be pleased with him) killed them, he said: Search (for his dead body). They searched for him, but they did not find it (his dead body). Upon this he said: Go (and search for him). By Allah, neither I have spoken a lie nor has the lie been spoken to me. 'Ali said this twice and thrice. They then found him (the dead body) in a rain. They brought (his dead) body till they placed it before him (Hadrat 'Ali). 'Ubaidullah said: And, I was present at (that place) when this happened and when 'Ali said about them. A person narrated to me from Ibn Hanain that he said: I saw that black man. Is this not racist enough.
Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks. Al-Tabari Vol 2. You still wanna argue.
It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah’s army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent. Ishaq:450
Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, “Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed. Ibn Musa al-Yahsubi, Qadi ‘Iyad. And yet you a black man protect these racist buttfvcks.

Lemme just stop here, because if I start posting what their scholars wrote about black people, you'll cry.

Reading this makes me understand why Arabs hate black people so much. I have worked with some of them in a sports school. I can tell you that they see us as inferior. A child once told me that her father told her that Satan is black. She said this because i am black. It was un issue in the school but later was resolved. The Stampade in Saudi Arabia that took 700 lives was blamed on African black people. African muslims are ignorant of what their ancestors went through in the hands of Muhammad. They are designed to be enslaved. Pathetic!!!

YOU DIDNT ADD WHERE MUHAMMAD EXCHANGED TWO BLACK SLAVEs FOR ONE ARAB SLAVE.

lexiconkabir:
i know you have never been ok but i never knew your condition has gotten this worse, pele, get well soon.

How will i be ok with a religion that demands blood to grow? Islam is the tool Satan is using to operate.
Dont think that you can fool all the people with your Islam is a peaceful religion. Its beggining to tell on you Muslims.

Following up.....

exmuslim1:
He claimed blacks not inferior to Arabs, yet he bought and possessed black slaves

sorry to burst your bubble again Muhammad did not owned slaves for the purpose of suffering them rather he used to purchase slaves in order to free them, not to sell them or give them tedious works, i didnt say this ibn Qayyim did in his Zad Al-Ma’ad, also this is from wikipedia;

The Islamic prophet Muhammad encouraged manumission of slaves, even if one had to purchase them first. On many occasions, Muhammad's companions, at his direction, freed slaves in abundance. [size=15pt]Muhammad personally freed 63 slaves, and his wife Aisha freed 67. In total his household and friends freed 39,237 slaves[/size]. The most notable of Muhammad's slaves were: Safiyya bint Huyayy, whom he freed and married; Maria al-Qibtiyya, given to Muhammad by a Sassanid official, whom he freed and who may have become his wife; Sirin, Maria's sister, whom he freed and married to the poet Hassan ibn Thabit and Zayd ibn Harithah, whom Muhammad freed and adopted as a son.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_slavery#Muhammad.27s_traditions

And yes I'll post the hadith- "I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks".

when the arabs say shaytan(satan), it doesnt necessarily mean satan as in iblees, but someone who is an oppressor in a way, i didnt make this up, look at the Quran and see what it says;

Thus, have We made, for every Prophet, an enemy, the shaytan of mankind and Jinn, inspiring one another with, adorned speech by way of deception."{Qur’an 6:112}

As you can see, the Quran says "a shaytan(i.e satan)" is an enemy, which can come from man or jinn, now Nabtal Ibn Al-Hareth, used to backbite the prophet with the other hypocrites, the description was أذلم which is dark and not BLACK, and jibril(whom gave the revelation) was speaking about him in specification and described him as such: "A man will come to you, dark with unruly hair, red-shot eyes and red-cheeks with a disfigured face, his liver is bigger than that of a donkey, if he comes to you watch out for him, he carries what you say to the hypocrites to backbite you." you can find this in Seera Nabaweyya for Ibn Ishaq.

so basically Nabtal was being referred to as "shaytan" not because he was a dark, but because he was an enemy of the prophet(from men).

Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin." Sahih Bukhari 9:89:256.

your hatred did not let you see, where Muhammad was even raising a black to high status, he said THE ARABS OF THAT TIME SHOULD LISTEN AND OBEY THEIR RULERS EVEN IF IT IS A BLACK MAN!! and as for the description "raisin" its a fair descripton to me, have you seen some very elderly eithiopian people? their skin becomes very wrinkled with age. The understanding of the hadith is that no matter if your leader is black ( as before islam some people used to look down on black people) or even if he is old and weak then you obey him.

Muhammed claimed Blacks are not inferior to Arabs- why does Islam make it alright for an Arab to sell an offspring off if he or she is from a black slave. Where's the egalitarianism here? when A'isha (Muhammad's wife) had a maid-slave who was an Arab, Muhammad said to A'isha, `Set this maid free because she is from the children of Ishmael. '" Ibn Tamiyya Vol 31. Oh, enslaved descendants of Ishmael get special treatment right. And what about Arabs and their pride and Muhammed's followers and their unquenchable thirst for blood- Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah’s Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us. Al Tabari Vol 9.

no no no, youve inserted your own thoughts here, the hadith says "Set this maid free because she is from the children of Ishmael" it did not say "it is alright for an Arab to sell an offspring off if he or she is from a black slave", and i wonder why you did not think "since its because there are ishmaelites, then its ok to sell israelites" rather your mind went to africans, smh for you.

Also, Narrated Jabir bin Samura: I heard the Prophet saying, "There will be twelve Muslim rulers (who will rule all the Islamic world) ." He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said, "All of them (those rulers) will be from Quraish." Sahih Bukharin 9:89:329. Should this religion you love so much not give an equal opportunity to you. But no, they display their Arab supremacy openly but you still don't accept it.

This has its explanation which i wouldnt want to delve into, but in summary it has to do with the promise that Allaah made to Abraham that his offsprings will be made Leaders, moreover hope you know quraish does not mean all the arabs? some arabs too are not privileged such that "these twelve khalifs" will come from their clan", like i said, Allaah is actually fulfilling a promise he made to Abraham.

The most hateful among the creation of Allah us one black man among them (Khwarij). One of his hand is like the teat of a goat or the nipple of the breast. When 'Ali b. Abu Talib (Allah be pleased with him) killed them, he said: Search (for his dead body). They searched for him, but they did not find it (his dead body). Upon this he said: Go (and search for him). By Allah, neither I have spoken a lie nor has the lie been spoken to me. 'Ali said this twice and thrice. They then found him (the dead body) in a rain. They brought (his dead) body till they placed it before him (Hadrat 'Ali). 'Ubaidullah said: And, I was present at (that place) when this happened and when 'Ali said about them. A person narrated to me from Ibn Hanain that he said: I saw that black man. Is this not racist enough.
Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks. Al-Tabari Vol 2. You still wanna argue.
It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah’s army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent. Ishaq:450
Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, “Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed. Ibn Musa al-Yahsubi, Qadi ‘Iyad. And yet you a black man protect these racist buttfvcks.

Lemme just stop here, because if I start posting what their scholars wrote about black people, you'll cry.

let me just give general proofs to debunk all your thoughts, as weve seen, you are implying what islamic sources did not imply;

The Quran says;

O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do." [An-Nisa 4:135]

Muhammad said;

"Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa'ah and dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for 'asabiyyah (i.e nationalism/tribalism/partisanship) or calling to 'asabiyyah, or assisting 'asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah."

Also this hadith says;

Ibn 'Abbas said to me, "Shall I show you a woman of the people of Paradise?" I said, "Yes." He said, "[size=15pt]This black lady[/size] came to the Prophet and said, 'I get attacks of epilepsy and my body becomes uncovered; please invoke Allah for me.'

The Prophet said (to her), 'If you wish, be patient and you will have (enter) Paradise; and if you wish, I will invoke Allah to cure you.' She said, 'I will remain patient,' and added, 'but I become uncovered, so please invoke Allah for me that I may not become uncovered.' So he invoked Allah for her."

Again;

The Prophet said, "I saw myself (in a dream) entering Paradise, and behold! I saw Ar-Rumaisa', Abu Talha's wife. I heard footsteps. I asked, Who is it? Somebody said, 'It is Bilal (The famous black Companion of the Prophet) ' Then I saw a palace and a lady sitting in its courtyard.


The black woman mentioned in this Hadeeth (the first that talks about a woman in paradise) is not even known by her name, or who she was, she is rather known by her deeds, her faith, her modesty, her chastity, her care about not being uncovered and for her being an inmate of Paradise. And that is what matters indeed.

The Quran says in Surah Al-Hujurat 49:13 -

O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female,and made you into nations and tribes,that you may know one another.Verily,THE MOST HONORABLE OF YOU WITH Allah IS THAT (BELIEVER) WHO HAS AT-TAQWA [i.e. PIETY,SELF-CONTROL]. Verily,Allah is All-Knowing,All-Aware.

Did prophet Muhammad(pbuh) said anything contradictory? Absolutely NO! because he said;

All mankind is from Adam and Eve,an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab;also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white EXCEPT BY PIETY AND GOOD ACTION.

How does a black gain superiority over a white? Through piety. How does a white gain superiority over a black? Through piety. If a black man has piety and an arab rejects faith, the black is superior to that arab and vice versa.

so take your hatred somewhere else.

plappville:
How will i be ok with a religion that demands blood to grow? Islam is the tool Satan is using to operate.
Dont think that you can fool all the people with your Islam is a peaceful religion. Its beggining to tell on you Muslims.

are you in anyway related to a guy called adaksbullet? he said he is not ok and will never be ok, so are you also saying that you are not ok?

plappville:
Reading this makes me understand why Arabs hate black people so much. I have worked with some of them in a sports school. I can tell you that they see us as inferior. A child once told me that her father told her that Satan is black. She said this because i am black. It was un issue in the school but later was resolved. The Stampade in Saudi Arabia that took 700 lives was blamed on African black people. African muslims are ignorant of what their ancestors went through in the hands of Muhammad. They are designed to be enslaved. Pathetic!!!

YOU DIDNT ADD WHERE MUHAMMAD EXCHANGED TWO BLACK SLAVEs FOR ONE ARAB SLAVE.

coming from someone whose Lord And Saviour referred to some people as dogs.

udatso:
He doesn't even know the difference between Rasul and nabiy. Even though there is no clear cut statement to proVe that Luqman was a prophet /messenger, he still erroneously insist he was a messenger.
I wonder if he got that from his jinn(s)

I tell you, the guy is just out here to spread confusion.

@exmuslim1 a question is still hanging, you trying to portray that you are knowledgeable in islam, so tell us who is a nabiy and who is a rasul.

exmuslim1:
I feel bolder. I feel free. I’ve never thought of myself a coward. Neither have I ever felt my mind imprisoned.

I renounced Islam and as crazy as it sounds, I still can’t believe it. It’s funny when you eventually come to the realization that no one really knows the future. I’ve read about a lot of people repudiating Islam, and what did I say- ‘’I hope Allah guides them back to the righteous path’’. Little did I know it was just a matter of months before I followed in their footsteps. And I here I am, planning on changing my name and absolute dissociation from the Muslim community.

People renounce Islam for a lot of reasons- some do so to make peace with their conscience, some as a result of peer pressure and influence, some as a result of weak practise of the religion, some due to skepticism and some just for the sake of it. I’ve always had my differences with some perspectives of Islam and disagreed with part of the Quran. The Book has its flaws just like the numerous ‘’holy books’’ out there. But don’t get me wrong, I’m no Atheist and I strongly believe in the existence of God but will never get myself tangled in religioun politics and fanaticism again. From now on, I shall live by neutral moral codes and not by hadiths or whatever. I’m a theist now, I believe in God, but have no belief whatsoever in the doctrine of the Trinity nor any divine revelation.

I was born a Muslim and into a very religious home. I was taught the rudiments of Islam at a very young age and I adapted to the Islamic community effortlessly. I could fast a full Ramadan at the age of ten and memorisation of the Quran was no problem. But as faith and age grew, questions and doubts began to pop. I tried brushing them off my mind as I perceived them to be ‘’whispers of the devil’’, but apparently I couldn’t evade them forever and I started looking for answers simply to consolidate my faith and religion. I mean if the religion was right there would certainly be nothing incriminating to find. Boy was I wrong. We live in an era of corruption and lies- crooked politicians, crooked clergymen and crooked religions. Everyone claims their religion is the way, even factions of the same religion claim the other is wrong.
JUJU/MAGIC: First thing I did was to confirm the existence of supernatural forces and consciousness of the unseen. I got my hands on old Yoruba ‘’manuscripts’’, spell book, juju book or whatever you want to call it which was passed down by my great great grandfather who was a descendant of magicians and masqueraders. Apparently, Islam reared it’s ugly oblong head into the clan through my great grandfather. I began experimenting with forces outside the physical and natural realm. There was of course no error- it was real. And I think white people made a terrible mistake for not endeavouring to explore African secrets, their education has of course proved be very much reliable, but it’s their loss and our gain anyway. As ridiculous and farcical as it may sound, I could find out when someone was lying and it wasn’t through a polygraph machine lie detector test, as the machine is not 100% accurate and can be lied to anyway. All it takes is ten green, healthy and unperforated almond leaves (popularly known as fruit tree in Nigeria), the blade of a hoe (which has tasted the earth), a sizable rock or stone (part of the earth), a pod of alligator pepper and some incantation [It’s the utmost secret here, and I can’t reveal it]. This procedure requires two people (gender neutral), the right palm of both parties would be spread and forked into one another horizontally. The ten leaves would be arranged in two columns of five leaves. Then the leaves would be placed slightly on one another and pointing to each other at the same time such that the midribs (line or sort of backbone that runs through a leaf) touch one another, and connects them together. Then the stone and the hoe blade would be placed on it chronologically. Nine grains of alligator pepper would be chewed before the incantation is recited and the question one desires or seeks answer to will be asked. FICTIONAL CASE: Let’s say Femi can’t find his money, and he wants to know if any of his roommates Deji, Akpan, Chinedu or Hassan stole it. Let’s say Akpan stole it, when he performs the process on the others, he would have to say something like ‘’If Chinedu stole the money, let the leaves come loose. If Chinedu didn’t, let the leaves stick together’’. Since Chinedu didn’t, the leaves will come loose effortlessly when drawn (horizontally) apart. Now, when it’s Akpan’s turn (since he stole the money) and he performs the process, I don’t give a flying fvck about how muscular you are or the number of years you’ve been hitting the gym. When you draw the leaves, they won’t come apart. Be you Arnold Schwarzenegger, Dwayne Johnson or the two in one body, pfft, the leaves won’t! E fee fa ku. Una go draw tire.

Secondly, I prepared a bronze ring which required an owl, the elulu bird (don’t know it’s English name), some leaves and incisions on my ears, head and around my left ring finger. When it was ready I put it to test: I tore an A4 paper into 50 pieces and labelled it numbers 1 to 50. I called on my younger brother and told him to pick any number or numbers and not say it out and each time I kept getting it right. All I had to do was look at someone, and in a snap of fingers, I would know precisely what they were thinking as long as the ring was on my left ring finger. Nigerian pastors and Alfas use this power a lot, before you narrate your problems they tell it to you and claim it was revealed by divine power. Power koh, Empire ni.

With these two demonstrations I proved the Muslim God Allah and His Book wrong, for he said in the book of Hud verse 5: Behold! They may fold up their hearts, that they may lie hid from Him! Even when they cover themselves with their garments, He alone knows well the inmost secrets of the heart. [Book of Al-Qasas verse 69]: And your Lord alone knows all that their hearts conceal and all that they reveal.
And finally the big one, I prepared another ring, also bronze. It required soaking in the fresh blood of a ram for a week, a yard of white cloth and a box made precisely from the wood of an Iroko tree amongst other things [Can’t reveal all]. Some markings were made on the white cloth. When it was ready, I got a pigeon, killed it by taking the head clean off. Wrapped it with the marked cloth and placed it in the box. I recited the incantation and then opened the box, unwrapped the ‘’dead’’ pigeon and there it was- stained with blood, but more than alive and with the head intact. Some will say Musa performed this, some may think I’m arrogant and comparing myself to Allah. I’m but a human being who has beyond the lies. Pastors use powers similar to this in performing ‘’miracles’’. Allegedly, Jesus is long gone, any pastor performing miracles is a liar and is full of shit. With this act I proved Allah and His Book wrong again: ‘’He it is Who gives life and causes death. And when He decides upon a thing He only says to it: Be! And it is.’’

RACISM: Of all the Prophets of Allah in the Quran, only one man was chosen as a messenger but not ordained with Prophethood- Lukman. And don’t tell me it’s a simple coincidence that Lukman is in fact black. And if you try telling me about notable black people such as Bilal Ibn Rabah, I’ll send you slap through Bluetooth. Sounds like Arabs and their God have a problem with a prophet being black. Do you think if Christianity or Islam originated from Africa, anyone would believe it. Simply not, just because, well, we’re black. And if Mohammed was so pious a human, why couldn’t he do something as humane as stopping enslavement of blacks in stone-throw territories like Ethiopia. Mohammed in fact owned black slaves, in fact, he bought and sold them. It was business for him and there is proof of this in Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawiyya’s famous book Zad Al-Ma’ad page 160. Bilal Ibn Rabah was one of his slaves, not a disciple as alleged. Many Africans were stolen in their villages and auctioned off like animals, Arabs are just as guilty as Westerners in the exploitation of black. This same pious Mohammed said ‘’If you dreamed of a black woman, this is an evil omen’’. Abeg, I was black yesterday, I’m black today and I’ll be black tomorrow, does he expect me to dream about oyinbo girls? And the cherry on top of this embarrassing and disgusting sundae- The common Arabic word for black is ‘’Abd’’ which means ‘’Slave’’. They were allowed to have sex with black slaves who they considered ‘’animals’’ but the offspring were not considered legitimate and could be sold off as slaves, who does that? Along came these Semitic religions- Islam and Christianity, and we black grabbed them like poff-poff. And Oh, don’t forget the unending feud of the Yahud and Arabs. This is a religion which commands Muslims to kill Jews simply because it was, well, commanded. And could you imagine the then King of Saudi Arabia commended Adolf Hitler for killing the Jews. Jew or no Jew, over six million lives were lost and they showed no empathy whatsoever. I’m sure they must have provided backroom sponsorship for Hitler. They are always engaged in one religion politics or the other

BARBARIC/HONOUR KILLINGS: What kind of human buries another human alive and stones them to death. What kind of sick deranged fanatic sets her daughter on fire for not marrying some withered old pervert. What kind of brother strangles his own sister in the name of honour killing? These are few of the senseless practices still being executed by lost Muslim morons. About two years ago, I read about Boko Haram activities in their then claimed territories- A man was amputated for stealing food. Now, this simply shows the high level of stupidity and ignorance of these people, they claim they want to practise Islamic laws and the morons don’t even know the law. A man’s hand is directed to be cut off but there is in fact a compromise. If he steals trifle things like food, especially food, he gets to keep the food, he’s warned never to repeat such and then flogged. But if he steals items of worldly value like Gold, Cars and so on, only then should he be amputated. The illiterate Hausa fools have turned a foreign religion to a helmet and glued it to their head. I weep for Muslim Hausas and Somalis. I hope they later realise how much Usman Dan Fodio is a curse to them.

SCIENTIFIC FACTS/IMMORALITY/ABSURDITIES: This is the forte of many ex-Muslims and they’re numerous. Science has made us see the errors of the so called ‘’Holy Quran’’. Like seriously, sperm being produced in the backbone. Honey Bees eat fruits, really? Allah created all things in pairs (two mates), does the Almighty not know about Bacteria, Protista, Fungi and plants that reproduce asexually. The Quran claims the glands that produce milk is within the body of the cattle, mammary glands are in fact stored outside the body. Allah claims He’s the only one who knows what’s in the womb, please, it’s the 21st century. Gender and cardinality can be determined in minutes. Women are seen as sex objects and properties, they can be owned and disposed. Muslims could take ‘’sex slaves’’, not surprised ISIS are auctioning them off online, apparently their ring leader did the same. Quran approves of sex with pre-pubescent girls (Child Molestation). Quran approved of child marriage, and Hausas love this, as they love their goro. Quran approves of Husband beating his wife (Domestic Violence), they groom their sons as future fanatics. Quran approves of retaliation (Qisas), an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. Mohammed solicited his crazy fanatic warriors by promising the perverts virgin maidens in heaven, seriously? A woman’s testimony equals half of a man’s (Sexism and Discrimination). Mohammed molested Aisha when she was only six years old and had sex with her when she was nine. Mohammed captured many women and kept them as sex slaves. Beheaded his enemies and even a 13 year old jewish boy after pulling down his pants and inspecting his groin for pubic hair. Mohammed ordered the torture, murder and terrorization of non-Muslims, hence ISIS and Boko Haram. Assassinated people for insulting islam, hence Hausas and their senseless killings. Compared his black slaves to Satan.

SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY: Hmm, the zombie leaders. More grease to their elbows for the number of lives they’ve taken for speaking against them. You can’t blaspheme against their God and you can’t give your two cents or criticism of the ‘’royal family’’. Their swords are ever swift to take the head drug dealers, but Prince Nayef bin Fawaaz’s case was an exception. He’s still alive till date. In 2015, Prince Abdel Mohsen bin Walid was caught with 2 TONNES of cocaine loaded on his private jet, he was extradited home and the case was swept under the rug. Muslims should please educate me on equality in Islam. Have they also forgotten about the caution against opulence in Islam, Prince Talal in 2014 bought an A380 Airbus aeroplane [not even a jet] for $300m and spent $200m customizing it, was he sanctioned? It has spas, a parking space for his Rolls Royce, private entertainment sessions, marble floors and what not. Who was there to enforce the rules of Mohammed, not even the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia because they’re all hypocrites. They do whatever they like and spend the nation’s money however they want, but police and kill people whenever they speak out. Princess Misha’al was executed for not complying with arranged marriage. She was executed with a gunshot to her head in public, while her lover watched and then he was beheaded with a sword too. Prince Faisal threw a wild Halloween party which is of course deemed un-Islamic, alcoholic drinks were served, liquor and what not and nobody batted an eye, not even the Grand Mufti. And what about gay Prince Saud bin Abdulaziz who raped and beat his gay manservant to death in London. And what about Prince Abdulaziz bin Fahd the rapist. How many of these royal buffoons have been prosecuted? They are hypocrites who drink alcohol, do and sell drugs, rape, murder and yet walk freely simply because they have ‘’royal blood’’. They have little or no regard for the religion and yet people place Islam on their heads like gala. And what about Salman bin Abdulaziz and cohorts who have married more than 30 times even though Allah’s limit was four. They simply changed the rules and now claim you can be married to a limit of four women at a time. And after they grow tired of them, they divorce them and marry another set of fours and this continues until they die. Muslims, have you forgotten Allah’s strong words in Suratu Talaq in your Quran. I weep for you, and I hope your eyes and mind eventually see the truth.

I see the imminent breakout of World War 3, I see it as a religious war and I see Islam and Muslims as the public and common enemy. I would renounce the religion and my Muslim name before some psycho bludgeons me to death for being a Muslim. I’m a prodigal son of all religions now, but as biblical as your thoughts might be, I’m never coming back.

nice
the best thread i ve read in two months

exmuslim1:
Wait... Hold up, seriously, a black man having a Caucasian as a slave. Go back to sleep. And now you want me to prove Abd was used to refer to slaves, what do you want? A YouTube video of 1500 years ago. So many claims, and I've countered them with books and hadiths. But no, you'll never accept. You're the sick one here.

Upon on top of that, the Blackman having a caucasian as a slave in Arabic society oo. This Muslims lie in Africa. Well.. What do i expect? Allah is the greatest deciever ever.

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exmuslim1:
mtchew.

no be you i even follow talk self, why take panadol on another person's headache the way i see it, you are butt hurt because;

TheSixthSense:
Probably the most ridiculous thing I have seen today. Please I would like to know where you got this information?

Don't take that one serious, lies flow out of his mouth like tap water.

KingErnesto:
Mr op, because u are operating with dark magic, u feel are powerful and all men of GOD operate with dark magic right?..


Have you thought of where that power u are using came from?.. Dnt give us sh*tty stories out of ignorance ..you're just another ignoramus who doesn't know his left from right. Next time dnt associate darkness with light, they are two different things...


Carry on with ur dark magic belief, it will last for a while, but i promise you, you will see the light.

tell me! How is Africa tradition dark?
i pity you. What made u call it dark.
girl if you nor get any better talk..i suggest u keep shut or tie ur fingers with ropes.

What nonsense is this
Let me tell u, ur belief may be dark to someone's belief.
Yeah! I said it. See! The indians sees other religions dark, like ur religion for example which is Christianity.

I think you didn't really digest the message op was trying to pass across.
firstly, he said he is a deisth..he believes in God but he's does not practice any belief.
lastly he was trying to make his point by using an illustration from African tradition.

Tired of explaining bye..

Demmzy15:
You can see that you're a worthless loser. You asked for proofs for when whites were taken as slaves not exclusively blacks and it was given to you and you still nag and shine your cursed brown teeth?

See this illiterate o, so if KKK wakes up, what na happen? I can see how clueless you're!

Must you screech? Cant you just have a discussion without name calling?

exmuslim1:
I said Lukman was a Rasul but not a Nabiy. Please and please, stop twisting my words.

Don't expect him not to, he is a muslim

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lexiconkabir:
unfortunately for you Allaah replies that;

"O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah [size=13pt]is the most righteous of you[/size]. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted." {Quran 49:13}

Why does Allah talks in the third person? Pls Ex-muslim help me here, the muslims will lie about it.

It seems someone is talking to someone else about allah. "We have created you FROM male and female? Created you FROM male and female? I dont get this.

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ireneony:
tell me! How is Africa tradition dark?
i pity you. What made u call it dark.
girl if you nor get any better talk..i suggest u keep shut or tie ur fingers with ropes.

What nonsense is this
Let me tell u, ur belief may be dark to someone's belief.
Yeah! I said it. See! The indians sees other religions dark, like ur religion for example which is Christianity.

I think you didn't really digest the message op was trying to pass across.
firstly, he said he is a deisth..he believes in God but he's does not practice any belief.
lastly he was trying to make his point by using an illustration from African tradition.

Tired of explaining bye..

Who is this one Rotfl pls , biko, mbok, abeg go back to romanceland


Magic is dark, if you don't know what magic is then STFU and dnt quote me ... You are obviously ignorant from your perspective , gosh!


Mind you, christianity doesn't practise magic or whatever and they don't make illustrations by comparing Christianity to magic..mba nu. Magic that makes blood sacrifice no be darkness, na weytin?

U better confess now, if you be witch.


So just flee to that section where all they talk about is romance. You are most needed there, not where real minds are! ...

I for give you word, but i no wan chop ban as my oda acct dey jail...

So bye

exmuslim1:
First of all, whoever told you Mohammed freed 39, 237 slaves is high. Higher than a fvcking kite. I don't know where this ridiculous statistics is from but I'll tell you this- Arab translators will tell you anything to lobby blacks away from the thoughts of them being racist.

Well, i brought a neutral source as to where i got the statistics from....

You claim Nabtal is a hypocrite

I didnt claim it a renowned historian told us.

[s]but this you and your Islam again- people can't give their opinions of you and your prophet, you threaten to kill them. You're in a cult, not a religion.
You're ethnicity is being ridiculed in their books, yet you defend them. Where is your pride as a black man, do you even have balls? #NoHomo[/s]

I didn't say only ishmaelites can be freed or whatever, my question is why does she get a special treatment? Does being any other color apart from black give slaves prerogatives.

Why do you think nice treatments to ishmaelites automatically means harsh treatment to blacks? Why didnt you think it means harsh treatment to israelites, Caucasians, latinos, and so on, why did you quickly say it refers to black?

Muhammed claimed the 12 leaders will come from the Quraishis (Arabs), you claim this isn't something you want to delve into lol

Yes i said i dont want to delve into the details and i gave summary of why it is like that, go back and read it

[s]Dear black man, why are you being an uncle tom? Why are you being a lapdog?
I didn't say black people won't to Jannah. Don't know where you got that from, my claim is that your religion is racist
Adam and Eve. You want to play this bullsh!t. Somehow Adam's sperm was like piñata, with his nutsack filled with all the races of the world. Keep believing fairytales.[/s]

All you focus on is the racism part, yet you still don't have a point. Why not defend the scientific errors of the Quran lol.

Trust me, i have defended them in the past, so i dont want give myself unnecessary headache, you believe what you want to, its not my freaking problem.

Cheers!!

[s]Crooked Arabs wrote the Quran, it's plausible, but has a lot of errors as well. Why is the book of the Almighty having errors. It was written and tailored according to the limit of knowledge and civilisation back then. Open your eyes and mind.[/s]

Salaam.

Anas09:
Why does Allah talks in the third person? Pls Ex-muslim help me here, the muslims will lie about it.

It seems someone is talking to someone else about allah. "We have created you FROM male and female? Created you FROM male and female? I dont get this.

Hush! Go away!

exmuslim1:
He claimed blacks not inferior to Arabs, yet he bought and possessed black slaves. And yes I'll post the hadith- "I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks".
Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin." Sahih Bukhari 9:89:256. Muhammed claimed Blacks are not inferior to Arabs- why does Islam make it alright for an Arab to sell an offspring off if he or she is from a black slave. Where's the egalitarianism here? when A'isha (Muhammad's wife) had a maid-slave who was an Arab, Muhammad said to A'isha, `Set this maid free because she is from the children of Ishmael.'" Ibn Tamiyya Vol 31. Oh, enslaved descendants of Ishmael get special treatment right. And what about Arabs and their pride and Muhammed's followers and their unquenchable thirst for blood- Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah’s Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us. Al Tabari Vol 9.
Also, Narrated Jabir bin Samura: I heard the Prophet saying, "There will be twelve Muslim rulers (who will rule all the Islamic world)." He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said, "All of them (those rulers) will be from Quraish." Sahih Bukharin 9:89:329. Should this religion you love so much not give an equal opportunity to you. But no, they display their Arab supremacy openly but you still don't accept it.
The most hateful among the creation of Allah us one black man among them (Khwarij). One of his hand is like the teat of a goat or the nipple of the breast. When 'Ali b. Abu Talib (Allah be pleased with him) killed them, he said: Search (for his dead body). They searched for him, but they did not find it (his dead body). Upon this he said: Go (and search for him). By Allah, neither I have spoken a lie nor has the lie been spoken to me. 'Ali said this twice and thrice. They then found him (the dead body) in a rain. They brought (his dead) body till they placed it before him (Hadrat 'Ali). 'Ubaidullah said: And, I was present at (that place) when this happened and when 'Ali said about them. A person narrated to me from Ibn Hanain that he said: I saw that black man. Is this not racist enough.
Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks. Al-Tabari Vol 2. You still wanna argue.
It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah’s army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent. Ishaq:450
Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, “Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed. Ibn Musa al-Yahsubi, Qadi ‘Iyad. And yet you a black man protect these racist buttfvcks.

Lemme just stop here, because if I start posting what their scholars wrote about black people, you'll cry.

Respect, Respect, Respect.

exmuslim1:
Mister, Nabiys mostly have revelations, allegedly. Rasuls are messengers.

So which revelation did lukman receive or which nation was lukman sent to?