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Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 6:44pm On Aug 26, 2016
Are you completely forgiven or partly forgiven? It’s a simple question that reveals whether you appreciate all Christ did for you on the cross.

Recently I heard a critic of the grace message say two contradictory statements: Christ paid for your complete redemption (amen!) but you are not completely forgiven (huh?). That’s like saying you’re saved, but not really. Or you’re holy, but sanctification is progressive. It’s the sort of mixed-up message you get from a mixed-up gospel .

Forgiveness like a debit card?

Some say that forgiveness is like a debit card. When Christ died he made a million-dollar deposit into your account. If you sinned this morning you are not forgiven until you confess and repent and draw upon that cross-wrought provision. In other words, between the time you sin and the time you repent, you are unforgiven. Your account is in the red. You need to fix it.

“But Paul, if I sin I should make amends. It’s only right.”
Yes, you should, but you’re fooling yourself if you think you can do that which Christ has done. The sinless Lamb of God paid an enormous price to carry your sin. Can you pay the same price?

It is ludicrous to think we can do a better job than Jesus, or that we can complete what he left half-done, yet that’s exactly what the debit-card picture suggests. What happens if you forget to confess? What happens if you confess every sin but one?

“It doesn’t really matter. God looks at the heart.” But it does matter, for the law tells us so. Break the law of confessing-to-be-forgiven and you will be guilty of breaking the whole thing (Jas 2:10).

Last week I neglected to put money into my account before my electricity bill went out. The bill bounced and a small oversight led to a big headache. There were letters. There were phone calls. There was a bank fee.

God treats sin the same way banks treat money – very seriously. (It cost him his Son’s life!) If forgiveness is a debit card, then you need to account for every single sin, big and small. So stop reading this, fall to your knees and repent for the sin of not treating sin seriously!
Actually, don’t stop reading because you need to hear this next bit.

The debit card metaphor is an unbiblical picture that promotes performance-based Christianity. It suggests that when we come to Christ, our sin debt is paid off (hooray!), but – and there is always a but in the mixed-grace message – every time we sin we incur a fresh debt which will be held to our account until we take steps to fix it.
How is this not mixing grace with works? How is this not prostituting the love of God?

God’s forgiveness is not given in installments

Forgiveness is not a debit card but a gift! You have been
completely and eternally forgiven on account of Jesus. You need to settle this in your heart otherwise you’ll be tossed and turned by every mixed-up teaching.

But don’t take my word for it. Let every matter be established in the presence of two or three witnesses. Here’s my first witness, the apostle Paul:

In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace. (Eph 1:7)

You are not forgiven in accordance with your acts of confession but his grace! Now for my second witness:
I write to you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name’s sake. (1 John 2:12)

Are forgiven, not will be forgiven. The cross is a done deal. Jesus died once for all to do away with all sin. Here’s my third witness:

Praise the Lord, my soul, and forget not all his benefits—who forgives all your sins … (Psalm 103:2–3a)
All means all . All does not mean only those sins you have repented and confessed for Jesus carried the sins of the whole world.
And now for a surprise witness: It’s Jesus himself who, on the night he rose from the dead, said that the forgiven-ness of sins should be preached in his name to all nations .

Unconditional love = unconditional forgiveness

While he walked this earth Jesus forgave sinners who neither repented nor confessed. He did this to show that love keeps no record of wrongs. He did it to reveal a God who loves you like a Father and who does not wait for you to get cleaned up before welcoming you with open arms.
My friends, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. (Act 13:38)

Forgiveness is not something to earn through acts of piety or penance, but a gift to receive and in Christ Jesus you have it!


https://escapetoreality.org/2015/07/17/debit-card-forgiveness/

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Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by importexpert(m): 6:51pm On Aug 26, 2016
nice read.
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 6:52pm On Aug 26, 2016
importexpert:
nice read.
you welcome
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by Nobody: 6:53pm On Aug 26, 2016
THANK YOU JESUS
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 6:55pm On Aug 26, 2016
lilyqueen:
THANK YOU JESUS
Amen!! Jesus is altogether lovely....

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Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 7:20pm On Aug 27, 2016
evening
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by Ada9103(f): 7:22am On Aug 28, 2016
Its my day....thank you Lord...he kept me cry

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Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by free2ryhme: 7:22am On Aug 28, 2016
beautiful Sunday
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by tolaxin(m): 7:23am On Aug 28, 2016
No its like a credit car
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by humilityd: 7:32am On Aug 28, 2016
NO its a credit card...
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by Sirnonye: 7:34am On Aug 28, 2016
MORNING EVERYONE
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by Temitope223(m): 7:35am On Aug 28, 2016
Nice post
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by obinoral1179(m): 7:40am On Aug 28, 2016
Ada9103:
Its my day....thank you Lord...he kept me cry
and he will continuing keeping you.
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by obinoral1179(m): 7:40am On Aug 28, 2016
Thank you jesus.

Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by Yksuccess(m): 7:44am On Aug 28, 2016
Hmmn!, nice write-up. Are you trying to say that once you are forgiving, even if return into your sin without making any amendment you are still covered by the initial grace that forgive you?
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by Ada9103(f): 7:46am On Aug 28, 2016
obinoral1179:
and he will continuing keeping you.







Amen
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by Nobody: 7:48am On Aug 28, 2016
The price has been paid! Thank you Jesus. Sunday lashing in the offing grin grin



Meanwhile, check my signature wink
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by emmabest2000(m): 7:53am On Aug 28, 2016
Awesome ...

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Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by IMASTEX: 7:54am On Aug 28, 2016
Hmm
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by Ajusshi: 7:58am On Aug 28, 2016
Hmm
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by Sanuzi(m): 8:01am On Aug 28, 2016
hmmmmmmmmmm
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by fortunateice(m): 8:02am On Aug 28, 2016
For the wages of sin is Death... Get that into your skull... But with one life to live it's so hard to be positive.
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by BANGERLEE1(m): 8:03am On Aug 28, 2016
Interesting.....
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by kaen1317: 8:04am On Aug 28, 2016
jiggaz:
you welcome
very nice and educative. Why is it that anyone is freely allowed to comment on this Christian thread while its not so for an Islamic thread. When you want to comment on an Islamic thread you'll have to swear you are a Muslim and all that

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Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by BANGERLEE1(m): 8:04am On Aug 28, 2016
Happy Sunday.
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by sladimeji(m): 8:05am On Aug 28, 2016
my chains are gone...av been set free...
my lord my Savior has ransomed me n like a flood his mercy rains...unending love amazing Grace
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by truthalways(m): 8:06am On Aug 28, 2016
kaen1317:
very nice and educative. Why is it that anyone is freely allowed to comment on this Christian thread while its not so for an Islamic thread. When you want to comment on an Islamic thread you'll have to swear you are a Muslim and all that

Because our religion is more tolerant, which to me is a good thing.

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Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 8:11am On Aug 28, 2016
kaen1317:
very nice and educative. Why is it that anyone is freely allowed to comment on this Christian thread while its not so for an Islamic thread. When you want to comment on an Islamic thread you'll have to swear you are a Muslim and all that
thank you..... Concerning that, i dont know oo my dear...
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by Nobody: 8:14am On Aug 28, 2016
Op, I agree that forgiveness isn't a debit card, but at the same time, I think its wrong for you to encourage people not to confess their sins. The Bible in 1 John 1:9 says; if we confess our sin, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Even in teaching the disciples how to pray, Jesus asked for forgiveness; "forgive us our sins as we forgive those who have sinned against us.
Forgiveness isn't like a debit card in any way, but saying people shouldn't confess their sins when they have sinned, especially by commission, it's very wrong. I don't think the scriptures you have quoted in anyway negates the practice of confession. What you're doing is encouraging people to go about sinning and not acknowledging their wrong doing, which with time will make them hardened and live perpetually in sin.

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Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by freecocoa(f): 8:18am On Aug 28, 2016
Christ didn't do sh1t for no one, definitely not me.

Ain't nobody asked him to die for them, nonsense. undecided
Re: Is Forgiveness Like A Debit Card? - Paul Ellis by Mrsbennyyr: 8:20am On Aug 28, 2016
Maybe

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