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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 4:56pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:12pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
61mech:I don't understand where all this is coming from, even if you're making a point, you're making a one-sided point. Like i said in my initial overall assessments, there's a lot we can do better. However, I'll like to take you up on the supposed issues you raised, starting with the part in bold. - Our war series II : Return to death valley. British military documentary of guys stationed in Afghanistan. From the documentary i noticed a lot of soldiers wearing civilian T-shirts in their outpost. *There's a guy with a civilian T-shirt with "bringing ass" boldly written on his shirt *Another guy with a blue civilian jacket *Guys all over the place wearing civilian jackets *A Guy wearing an Atari T-shirt The guys goofing and playing around in an operational area. -Now to the video, there has just been a rainfall. The guys were clearing up and tidying themselves up. I do not see anything wrong with that. They are not robots who are supposed to be structured at all times, they can loosen up after a rain. - Our war series, I see soldiers goofing around, nothing then, nothing wrong now. Soldiers are also human beings. - Again refer to the British army documentary produced by the BBC. - The soldiers aren't in Sambisa to hide, there's no way you can hide such a force of 200 - 300 men. A yellow rubber used in storing water is not an issue. Defensive parameters have been set with roving patrols. - The blokes were attacked, and the attackers saw hell. This makes your argument void. They responded perfectly well, killing all the attackers, with well defined kill zones already made. - Again with the guys trying to organise themselves, preparing to move out. The video showed the convoy moving out, it also showed soldeirs providing well defined security at each point. Everybody spaced out. - when clearing operations began, the vehicles where well spread out, each providing the security it has been assigned while the rest of the Infantry continued mop up. So, your criticism is largely unfortunate. There are a lot of things the soldiers did right, whatever lapses did not disrupt operational efficiency. ISIS, Boko-Haram paint their vehicles with mode so that aircrafts would not be able to spot them from above. All the vehicles used by the NA wear some sort of a Camouflage. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 5:14pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Henry240:Bruh? - Wtf are those defensive positions? - 5:40 HMG on Toyota firing randomly with uncontrolled bursts - 7:16 RPG guy fires RPG straight into the sky (you can see it self dresturct harmlessly in the air) The first 10 min of that video was a complete cringe festival. Painful to watch. Looked like a militia with tanks, Donbass Peoples Army would thrash them before breakfast. To be honest it looked pretty solid from there on in, guys looked decent while on the move. People were watching sectors, dismounted infantry providing security for the convoy, there was some good spacing, tank crews looked like they knew their buisness etc etc etc Also: Henry240:I see you have changed your tune completely on the A109. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:20pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
DEATHMACHINE:"Dem Southies go gree?". |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 5:20pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Henry240:61Mech is right though. I have also seen his moniker around in other forums, I beleive he is an "ouemanne" - he is experienced. Any decent enemy would give those guys a hiding they would never forget. The Angolans would have had an o.r.g.a.s.m if they had found us in such a state - like they did during a certain air-raid that killed 13 men. That camp was a shambles and those men lack dicipline. There are many many positive things in that video, but very glaring and very easy to fix problems. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 5:27pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Odunayaw: DEATHMACHINE: Deway75: TrueHeart365: DEATHMACHINE: tdayof:You guys know 61mech is a veteran right? War in Angola ring any bells? You know, the one where the enemy was properly armed and trained? Sometimes you should put pride aside and listen to what others have to say. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:28pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
patches689:I don't completely disagree with 61mech. However he was largely, largely wrong in so many areas. I know he's an SANDF or former SADF soldier, i sometimes read his comments on Defenceweb. There was a rain, the guys were cleaning up to move out after the rain, then, they were attacked. I don't see anything wrong with human beings goofing around. You simply cannot always be regimental. I provided the British documentary Our war series to show that even blokes in first world armies goof around, wear civilian clothing in the frontline, wear flip-flops and are also human beings. So now, BHT aren't a decent enemy, dude, don't be a cheapo. They guys got attacked and they showed the mettle they are made off. There's a lot of credit in that video, i mean a lot. I'm surprised nobody is mentioning soldiers carrying out training right there in the bush. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 5:33pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Henry240:Ja henry like I said, there is more to be proud of than embarrassed about. But that laager was pig disgusting. It was a mess. Its one thing fvcking around in a prepared position, its another when you are out in the open. When you are mobile like that, you must be on combat footing all the time. I dont want to think about what would happen if Boko had some mortar tubes and guys who knew how to use it. And yes, we both know that these days Boko are a shadow of what they used to be. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 5:34pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
patches689:yes I know I have known of his moniker b4 I started following dz thread sef I have listened to what He has to say and have made my comment...I will only apologize if I passed any insulting comment |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:39pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
patches689:A109s aren't sh1t after-all. They are very useful assets to have, LUH i mean. There are a lot more positives in that 43 mins clip than they were negatives. The HMG on the Toyota wasn't firing randomly. He knew where the enemy was and placed fire there. He's firing an HMG in bursts, the gun was quite unstable, hence the timed bursts. - the Tanks, MRAPs provided adequate cover. That's the defensive position. - the guy fired because he was instructed not to use the RPG, he was told "don't fire RPG our men are in front", so he pointed upwards. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:44pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
patches689:Rains, goofing and playing around, enemy attacked and was roundly beaten, only had 1 KIA = perfect. You cannot continue to look for what is wrong in all that is right. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tdayof(m): 5:49pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
bidexiii:Before the attack some officers made mention of the BHT sneaking in. They were on alert. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 5:59pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Sometimes you just have to keep quiet and take notes. Somethings are painful to take and learn. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:10pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
MikeCZA:Ogbeni keep that parable to yourself. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 6:22pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Odunayaw:you stay there for any period of time it becomes a camp |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 6:24pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
bidexiii:are there hostiles that could attack them? then yes it is a operational area. not all of them yes sure but at base not camped in the AO |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 6:30pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
my big issue was that when they camped there where people walking around with out there weapon. Even in the Navy we had that hammerd down our throats. In a AO you never leave your weapon untended ever. hell as long as I have a weapon sighed under my name I never let it leave my side, I sleep with the thing in my sleeping bag (that we kept unzipped so we could get up quick) The camp ground seemed unorganized and in a disarray. Sure when on the move it was good but the camp was a mess |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by thedarkside: 6:39pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
rawswag:we shall reverse-engineer anything that is makeble with our black-hands.... we shall see!... this is not about,who is better or more muscle no more... this is about survival!!!..
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Vikkie14: 6:54pm On Sep 02, 2016*. Modified: 12:06am On Oct 09, 2016 |
bidexiii:You made some salient points, but i think 61mech was only trying to point out the "negative" aspect of the troop composure. Patriotism doesn't mean we shouldn't see the "bad" aspect of an issue while being blurred by the "preferred/good" part. The only funny thing about his comment is that, that place isn't a Camp/Base. He listed just the bad aspects while you guys listed also the good aspects which ACTUALLY Balanced the video--pros and cons. Anyway, Henry240, i quite disagree with that your "compulsory" viewing of the video, who ever wished to watch the video should do so as you won't get them Data to view it--just an advice sire. I've watched that couple of days ago though. Morealso, henry240, bidexiii and deathmachine(you are still in the system), got a friend that wanna join you over at the "system". I'm aware SSC is off, now wondering about the DSSC, is this one also offline(i mean GONE) for the year? Oga bidexii, you are having low traffic on your thread, hope no problem. Oga jakeporeshenko(your moniker sounds like that of the ukrainian president ), please gimme your IG handle.. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Vikkie14: 7:13pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
thedarkside: Are you not the guy that said something about A-Jet downing an F35? Where you later thinks(in your own wisdom ) that even one of our "Blades" can take down the US "Wing". You are more of a comic relief Bro. Pics 1 n 2: c130 hercules Pics 3: Egypt c295m casa
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by rugged7(m): 7:26pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
It is weird that the south africans on this forum will just open their mouths to talk rubbish based on a a 45 minute clip that does not show you everything. How do you know that the Nigerian troops didn't post sentries circumferentially? That would probably not have been visible on the video And how are you sure they didn't have overwatch with drones or surveillance planes ![]() WE KNOW for certain that prior to these raids or incursions into sambisa, they have overwatch support from drones. And by the way, they have been fighting in sambisa for many months now and are obviously not rookies War films and actual battles are two different things Personally i think their were lots more positives than negatives The reality is that the Nigerian Army has been wholly successful against bokoharam |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:30pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
andrewza:My main issue is, why dwell on what you'll call bad, when there are a lot, i mean a lot more positives in the video. We can have a balanced report, and we all have a discussion, then move on. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by thedarkside: 7:35pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Vikkie14:yes--...i did..... ....indeed.... ..what worries me issss,,,what makes you think its not possible. ![]() |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tochex101(m): 7:41pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
rugged7:Bro your going too hard, please don't insult anybody. We are all adults here and each entitled to his personal opinions. @ vikkie pls avoid #thedarkside. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:45pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Vikkie14:Bros your moniker sounds like that of a female evil villain... ![]() My IG is @nigerian_armed.forces Unofficial account of course |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by rka1: 7:52pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Is it possible that some new airframes have arrived? The article below says some newly acquired warplanes were inspected in Adamawa. http://buzznigeria.com/military-aligned-collaborated-boko-haram/ |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 7:59pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Henry240:because I am south African and we complain when we come 3rd place in the rugby world cup |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:03pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
rugged7:Our guys probably had overwatch, losts of tactical drones are made available in the battlefield.
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:14pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Nigerian Army sending "we miss you packages" to Boko-Haram.
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:19pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
andrewza:I'm a Nigerian we are football. "What's rugby?". If i'm only going out to look for what is bad, i'll eventually see it. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:21pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
rka1:.....But the video, the recent video the source is referring to only talks about F-7NI and Alpha jets. Is there a more reputable source which confirms these aircrafts delivery? |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:33pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Nigerian Army Soldiers
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