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M14A1:
How many persons out of 50 do you know that can perform a backflip at a spot??
.......not many i guess.

The kulbit is a full cobra


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2dgi2NhMSw

And how many fights need a back flip? It a trick that shows off the agility not a manouver meant for combat

Boeing T-X

[img]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsO3xoxWAAA8B50.jpg:large[/img]

andrewza:
And how many fights need a back flip? It a trick that shows off the agility not a manouver meant for combat

Maybe you got me wrong the first time.

Not the number of fights that need a backflip, but the number of airplanes that can actually pull it off in a tight loop,
Agility maneuver, that's all semantics.

If you recall

nemesis2u:
https://i0.wp.com/su-27flanker.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/CF5.jpg
some maneuvers which can be done by su-30 series aircraft's

I didn't type that.

You said

andrewza:
other than the cobra a air show trick nothing there is special. Just saying

Meaning any fighter jet can pull off the other maneuvers

Which i replied you thus

M14A1:
How many persons out of 50 do you know that can perform a backflip at a spot??
.......not many i guess.
The kulbit is a full cobra

M14A1:
Maybe you got me wrong the first time.

Not the number of fights that need a backflip, but the number of airplanes that can actually pull it off in a tight loop,
Agility maneuver, that's all semantics.

If you recall

I didn't type that.

You said
Meaning any fighter jet can pull off the other maneuvers

Which i replied you thus

I am not saying others can or cant do those tricks. i am saying they tricks and not something that will affect combat in any way.

andrewza:
I am not saying others can or cant do those tricks. i am saying they tricks and not something that will affect combat in any way.

I share your views as well

M14A1:
I share your views as well

i just have a simple query for u and andrewza

why would i have TVC installed in my fighter jets in-spite of the penalties of weight , maintenance , cost ?

i know 2 countries who employ hundreds of TVC equipped aircraft's , now why would they do that ?
for airshow 20-30 TVC equipped aircraft's are enough.

combat maneuvers and tactics run by a fighter aircraft are one of the most closely guarded secrets of an airforce , not shared even with closest allies .

nemesis2u:


i just have a simple query for u and andrewza

why would i have TVC installed in my fighter jets in-spite of the penalties of weight , maintenance , cost ?

i know 2 countries who employ hundreds of TVC equipped aircraft's , now why would they do that ?
for airshow 20-30 TVC equipped aircraft's are enough.

combat maneuvers and tactics run by a fighter aircraft are one of the most closely guarded secrets of an airforce , not shared even with closest allies .

On request they are sometimes shared.

I throw 5 generation full sphere missiles into the discussion. Revolutionizing close air to air combat.

tdayof:
Boeing T-X

[img]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsO3xoxWAAA8B50.jpg:large[/img]

oga sir..check ur fb inbox

Odunayaw:
oga sir..check ur fb inbox

I will ASAP. sorry about the delay.

MikeCZA:
On request they are sometimes shared.

I throw 5 generation full sphere missiles into the discussion. Revolutionizing close air to air combat.

like the grandmas secret recipes , the best are kept close to the heart

ur late , i already mentioned high off bore missile / full hemisphere missile (python 5) with the kulbit maneuver explanation. seems everybody missed the significance of that .........


anyways instead of throwing this and that,
why dont u throw urself into the discussion for once
give us some good dope

Odunayaw:
oga sir..check ur fb inbox

Hy bro, Found nothing.

nemesis2u:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/10/article-2601864-1D01415300000578-753_964x471.jpg

This is present on the Zumwalt class already.

tdayof:
This is present on the Zumwalt class already.

ru sure?
double check it

nemesis2u:
ru sure?
double check it

Oh Thanks man. Used to think the railgun has been deployed on the DDG-1000.

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tdayof:
Hy bro, Found nothing.

will resend

nemesis2u:


i just have a simple query for u and andrewza

why would i have TVC installed in my fighter jets in-spite of the penalties of weight , maintenance , cost ?

i know 2 countries who employ hundreds of TVC equipped aircraft's , now why would they do that ?
for airshow 20-30 TVC equipped aircraft's are enough.

combat maneuvers and tactics run by a fighter aircraft are one of the most closely guarded secrets of an airforce , not shared even with closest allies .

Combat maneuvers yes!!! But speed dumping maneuvers in a multi bogey theatre?
Axial thrust pushes the jet (and wing) through the air at a speed required to maintain lift. Take away forward thrust, take away speed and lift. Go back to the video here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2dgi2NhMSw

What's happening? The Flanker is dropping like a rock at slow speed (no lift is being produced by the wing). If the Flanker pilot does not kill me now, the other edge of the sword is about to fall. He's automatically building in vertical turning room for me and it's going to take an unacceptable amount of time for him to get enough smash back to take it away due to his low airspeed. If I'm still alive I'm turning him into a strafe rag.

There's are time for thrust vectoring and a time to leave it in the bag, with the latter always being the 1st choice.



by the way where is Chinese?? Haven't seen his post on this thread for a while now

M14A1:
by the way where is Chinese?? Haven't seen his post on this thread for a while now

maybe he found a girlfriend

Odunayaw:
will resend

Seen

nemesis2u:
maybe he found a girlfriend

Ah!!! Typical Chinese

nemesis2u:


i just have a simple query for u and andrewza

why would i have TVC installed in my fighter jets in-spite of the penalties of weight , maintenance , cost ?

i know 2 countries who employ hundreds of TVC equipped aircraft's , now why would they do that ?
for airshow 20-30 TVC equipped aircraft's are enough.

combat maneuvers and tactics run by a fighter aircraft are one of the most closely guarded secrets of an airforce , not shared even with closest allies .

I am not denianing the agility of the aircraft just saying the tricks shown are that tricks

andrewza:
I am not denianing the agility of the aircraft just saying the tricks shown are that tricks

lol
i am also saying the same thing except that 1-2 of the shown tricks ( in the posted picture ) have combat utility according to my knowledge/info.

i would have really enjoyed discussing the combat air tactics but last few days my brains tensed with real life problems.

on a better day i hope to enjoy discussing the same with u and M14A1
i hope 2 of u will join again

nemesis2u:
lol
i am also saying the same thing except that 1-2 of the shown tricks ( in the posted picture ) have combat utility according to my knowledge/info.

i would have really enjoyed discussing the combat air tactics but last few days my brains tensed with real life problems.

on a better day i hope to enjoy discussing the same with u and M14A1
i hope 2 of u will join again

rule of thumb if you slow to stall then you doing a trick

[img]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsT8amBVUAIez3D.jpg:large[/img]

these will start getting online from 2018 onwards

nemesis2u:
lol
i am also saying the same thing except that 1-2 of the shown tricks ( in the posted picture ) have combat utility according to my knowledge/info.

i would have really enjoyed discussing the combat air tactics but last few days my brains tensed with real life problems.

on a better day i hope to enjoy discussing the same with u and M14A1
i hope 2 of u will join again

It would be a pleasure sir

Rolward312:
Hello every one, how are you?

Helllo, I can't speak for everyone but I'm fine. Yourself?