cocoduck:
So your fear is that it will take time to build Biafra up, it is just like a farmer who says no he will not plant because it takes a lot of time and energy and resources for the plantation to mature. Look weddon't have to go to the moon to set up our nation because Ikemba himself has done it already, the money he put in world bank for Biafra is still there, BTW , things happen in the zoo like this because of the zoo ways of life, which is different from that of Biafra.

So as a farmer, what do you do when you see weed on already cultivated land?, you weed it and nature it to grow , or you leave it to set up another farmland and start all over again?

pq007:
u call him selfish? Ain't u being selfish too cos u r lazy n d Nigerian system ain't working for u. Nigerian system doesn't support laziness.. Am an engineer and a farmer. Learn value DAT their is dignity in labour n believe me u see nigeria system work for u not perfectly tho but at least it will work...

You are just a peasant farmer while I spearheaded the acquisition of 400 hectares of land for mechanised farming as to empower rural women hence you have no knowledge of who you quoted.

For one to say that the system is not working is an understatement. It needs structural modification hence let's go back to the foundation.

I used to disagree about the need for biafra before Buhari's made it obvious the 5% were not wanted. But for the sake of using their oil to fund development for the 97%, he would actually fight to keep them as slaves inside Nigeria.

I have since become 109% pro biafra

omnisali:




it's not good to be afraid of the unknown.

It is not about fear. It is about coming to terms with reality. We can't just overlook the negative effects.

S6un:
Let me educate the op why we need Biafra and quickly

1. Biafra offers us immense opportunity to create a country with top class infrastructure like road, broadband, power, the smaller a country the easier to provide such infrastructure

2. Total control of the fiscal and monetary policy of our country means we can create a Caribbean style tax haven if we like. We have the human resources to do that and the diaspora population to make it work

3. We can create all types of companies backed up by government to provide all kinds of service around the globe most especially in Africa. Think nollywood as a small example. I know a lot of igbo artisans, engineers, chemist, doctors, accountants, software engineers etc currently unemployed but waiting for the opportunity to blossom.

4.we can create a world class health service from where we can export world class health professionals around the world.

5. We can win the world cup because we drive each other to be the best.

But don't you think that we have to first of all unite as one,There is an economic forum coming up in Enugu this October for our people to think how to develop SE. That is what we need now and not biafra without agenda. Think home and build home is the topic,let together develop SE,get the SE governors together and we can do great things.Then we can start demanding for a country.Do you know that 5 SE governors can build Second Niger bridge with foreign investors and install a toll gate on it.Let's face the truth,our Igbo leaders are greed to the highest level.

This is a lazy way out, even in the system as bad as you may make it sound or look, smart igbos are breaking barriers every day, shattering world records, the lazy ones with lazy way out wants jobs they cannot compete to get in Nigeria. Igbos can create the world class infrastructures in igbo land, tax holidays and even havens in their states or at least state Tax regime. All these excuses of Nigeria holding the igbos down is a farce. Personally I will want the igbos to have their Biafra and see them disappoint me if they succeed.

shaibu123:

But don't you think that we have to first of all unite as one,There is an economic forum coming up in Enugu this October for our people to think how to develop SE. That is what we need now and not biafra without agenda. Think home and build home is the topic,let together develop SE,get the SE governors together and we can do great things.Then we can start demanding for a country.Do you know that 5 SE governors can build Second Niger bridge with foreign investors and install a toll gate on it.Let's face the truth,our Igbo leaders are greed to the highest level.

Somebody called shuaib advising on Biafra?

Luckymay:

So as a farmer, what do you do when you see weed on already cultivated land?, you weed it and nature it to grow , or you leave it to set up another farmland and start all over again?

You are taking it wrongly, I as a farmer will not because if the magnitude of the work and time needed to plant for example a farm of Apple trees, to make me not to plant, so if you are saying that you hate Biafra because it will take not less than 10 years to stand, then I am sorry, because I am better off hungry but free than being fed in captivity, or slavery. If you say no in the zoo we are free and this and that, then I say you are afraid of Biafra because you are blinded by the few crumbs you are getting from the zoo, and are afraid to stand on your own because you will lose those things, ie those whose parents are benefitting from the zoo government, BTW this zoo is a special zoo because humans are caged while animals roam free. Biafra is my home, not the zoo. So there is no other farm.

Dumaknesset:
This is a lazy way out, even in the system as bad as you may make it sound or look, smart igbos are breaking barriers every day, shattering world records, the lazy ones with lazy way out wants jobs they cannot compete to get in Nigeria. Igbos can create the world class infrastructures in igbo land, tax holidays and even havens in their states or at least state Tax regime. All these excuses of Nigeria holding the igbos down is a farce. Personally I will want the igbos to have their Biafra and see them disappoint me if they succeed.

Nigeria is a cesspit of corruption, incompetence, failure, lack of planning, disorganisation etc.
We want a country that works for all and not a privileged few. Igbo saying onye ayala nwanne ya (do not leave your brother behind )is every Igbo guiding principle.

Only in Nigeria will a government import grass to feed livestock. That can never happen in Biafra.
We import bitumen for road when a huge deposit exist in ondo.
Why Nigeria need a foreign contractor to build the road? In America where I recide, my neighbours small family business builds and maintain some of the road in my municipality. Road construction is not rocket science.

S6un:
Let me educate the op why we need Biafra and quickly

1. Biafra offers us immense opportunity to create a country with top class infrastructure like road, broadband, power, the smaller a country the easier to provide such infrastructure

2. Total control of the fiscal and monetary policy of our country means we can create a Caribbean style tax haven if we like. We have the human resources to do that and the diaspora population to make it work

3. We can create all types of companies backed up by government to provide all kinds of service around the globe most especially in Africa. Think nollywood as a small example. I know a lot of igbo artisans, engineers, chemist, doctors, accountants, software engineers etc currently unemployed but waiting for the opportunity to blossom.

4.we can create a world class health service from where we can export world class health professionals around the world.

5. We can win the world cup because we drive each other to be the best.

Op why you dey waste your time they reply people wey want to remain in a sorry state like the one we are in instead of boldly walking their way out of mediocracy.We Biafrans believe in ourselves and any other people who also believe in themselves.No body can drag us to the dust and make us remain in that dust no.We are not fulfill in Nigeria because the condition we are made to face in our economic endeavors does not allow us to be who we are supposed to be.we need a country where awards are based on merits not on who do you know and you must get a letter from allahaji or a top politician,also we need a country where I don't need to change my name to Musa or kabiru to be favored no.That is why I need Biafra.

abobakucannibal:



Op why you dey waste your time they reply people wey want to remain in a sorry state like the one we are in instead of boldly walking their way out of mediocracy.We Biafrans believe in ourselves and any other people who also believe in themselves.No body can drag us to the dust and make us remain in that dust no.We are not fulfill in Nigeria because the condition we are made to face in our economic endeavors does not allow us to be who we are supposed to be.we need a country where awards are based on merits not on who do you know and you must get a letter from allahaji or a top politician,also we need a country where I don't need to change my name to Musa or kabiru to be favored no.That is why I need Biafra.

.good point you made there

[quote author=abobakucannibal post=49324973]


Op why you dey waste your time they reply people wey want to remain in a sorry state like the one we are in instead of boldly walking their way out of mediocracy.We Biafrans believe in ourselves and any other people who also believe in themselves.No body can drag us to the dust and make us remain in that dust no.We are not fulfill in Nigeria because the condition we are made to face in our economic endeavors does not allow us to be who we are supposed to be.we need a country where awards are based on merits not on who do you know and you must get a letter from allahaji or a top politician,also we need a country where I don't need to change my name to Musa or kabiru to be favored no.That is why I need Biafra.[/quote

How many investment do you have in the South East? How many people do you employ In the South East?How many employment have you created in the South East? People like you only like to talk. Ana-esi n'ulo we diri nma pu na-ezi.

S6un:


Somebody called shuaib advising on Biafra?

Nwanne social media name does mean who you are. Ka anyi hu onye anyi na-anya.

Luckymay:

You are deviating a little from the topic
OK let me summarise my points in an easily assimilating manner..
1.if at all the biafra thing becomes reality, it will take more years to fix and function than it will take to fix Nigeria if we stand and one with the right leader.
2. There's bound to be intra tribal crises that will arise which may stall the progress and which can be avoided if we stop this biafra agitation.
You are saying that there hasn't been any tribal rifts amongst igbos in history, well you need to go back to your history books.
So all in all, to avoid these things we need unity. That's all.

Having observed the arguements so far you seem not to have a genuine reason to be nigerian.

Madamexcellency as usual has stronger arguements than you. Nigerian foundation is faulty and needs overhauling but I don't expect Biafra to have the same kind of foundation as nigeria.
Remember nigeria has so many ethnic groups and religious differences which is part or you can say a major part o her problems.

mabea:
Having observed the arguements so far you seem not to have a genuine reason to be nigerian.

Madamexcellency as usual has stronger arguements than you. Nigerian foundation is faulty and needs overhauling but I don't expect Biafra to have the same kind of foundation as nigeria.
Remember nigeria has so many ethnic groups and religious differences which is part or you can say a major part o her problems.

So because Nigeria is made up of different ethnic groups, divide and rule is the solution to the problem?
And I didn't remember making you a jury on who scores the highest point.
I don't remember telling you my opinion here is to score some cheap points.
You said I don't have a right to be a Nigerian, like seriously. You have no right whatsoever to deny me of my citizenship.
And if you have your reservations, simply say it than taking up an unpaid job of a jury.

I will give my life for the federation of biafra
Unlike some cowards from the waste tribe especially my dog Victorvexz

S6un:


Health care system is different from health centres.
Health care system is created by a country with rules, guidelines, specifications to deliver top quality healthcare to the masses.
Nigeria unfortunately doesn't have a health care system.
To create a health care system, requires joined up national planning.
I don't have time to educate you.

Says who. Come to ondo state and see what mimiko has done in the health sector. Though it seems lopsided but the facilities he provided is some state hospitals is superb. Fed govt can't stop any state from breaking grounds in the health sector..

[quote author=shaibu123 post=49325887][/quote]Mister poster I don't care who you are,your post makes no sense to me.If we call ourselves one Nigeria and because in the east I didn't create business there but contributed massively to the growth of a country I claim to be part of why shouldn't I also be qualify to benefit from the harvest?why denying me the same right I have as others in the country?

cocoduck:
You are taking it wrongly, I as a farmer will not because if the magnitude of the work and time needed to plant for example a farm of Apple trees, to make me not to plant, so if you are saying that you hate Biafra because it will take not less than 10 years to stand, then I am sorry, because I am better off hungry but free than being fed in captivity, or slavery. If you say no in the zoo we are free and this and that, then I say you are afraid of Biafra because you are blinded by the few crumbs you are getting from the zoo, and are afraid to stand on your own because you will lose those things, ie those whose parents are benefitting from the zoo government, BTW this zoo is a special zoo because humans are caged while animals roam free. Biafra is my home, not the zoo. So there is no other farm.

So you think by defecting to biafra, you'd finally be free from captivity, your rights can finally be delivered to your doorstep?
You think there won't be any more looting nor corruption nor any other political vices? Come on wake up please. Unless biafra is to be ruled by the "invisible supreme being" that which you fear will still be rotating in cycle.

S6un:


Somebody called shuaib advising on Biafra?

Can you imagine the useless and childish question he asked me.What do they even contribute to Nigeria economy if not killing and constituting nuisance in the society.See his question below in bold.

How many investment do you have in the South East? How many people do you employ In the South East?How many employment have you created in the South East? People like you only like to talk. Ana-esi n'ulo we diri nma pu na-ezi.

shaibu123:

But don't you think that we have to first of all unite as one,There is an economic forum coming up in Enugu this October for our people to think how to develop SE. That is what we need now and not biafra without agenda. Think home and build home is the topic,let together develop SE,get the SE governors together and we can do great things.Then we can start demanding for a country.Do you know that 5 SE governors can build Second Niger bridge with foreign investors and install a toll gate on it.Let's face the truth,our Igbo leaders are greed to the highest level.

Thanks for this articulated salient points.

shaibu123:

Nwanne social media name does mean who you are. Ka anyi hu onye anyi na-anya.

Stop this by force Igbo.What is onye anyi.Awusa man.

shaibu123:

But don't you think that we have to first of all unite as one,There is an economic forum coming up in Enugu this October for our people to think how to develop SE. That is what we need now and not biafra without agenda. Think home and build home is the topic,let together develop SE,get the SE governors together and we can do great things.Then we can start demanding for a country.Do you know that 5 SE governors can build Second Niger bridge with foreign investors and install a toll gate on it.Let's face the truth,our Igbo leaders are greed to the highest level.

All those developments in the northern Nigeria where also built by the foreign investors money abi?Your just so pathetic I must say.Lazy people talking.

pq007:
u call him selfish? Ain't u being selfish too cos u r lazy n d Nigerian system ain't working for u. Nigerian system doesn't support laziness.. Am an engineer and a farmer. Learn value DAT their is dignity in labour n believe me u see nigeria system work for u not perfectly tho but at least it will work...

But is there anything wrong for one asking to go it's separate way?yes we are not taking your Nigeria from you,remain in it but don't force others to remain in a place where they are not ok with.Simple.Why are you afraid that the people want Biafra if the unity is not benefiting you more? My advice to you is that you should begin to learn how to re adjust yourself because this quest and it's restoration is inevitable I must assure you.

AZeD1:
In one of the videos of Nnamdi KANU soliciting for help from Igbos in America, a man challenged him and said, "all politics is local"
Everything you have put up there is falacy and falls into the same APC excuse making theory.

1) Nothing stops any state from building world class health centres today so saying you are waiting for Biafra is a lie.
2) Different state governments can create any kind of companies they want, they can woo any investor they want, so the waiting for Biafra is a lie.


Some years back, non Abia indigenes were fired from the state civil service, even Lagos hasn't tried that, yet you believe the South East is one?
Or is it the case of Anglican church vs Catholic during Enugu state election?
Or the case of the appointment of a bishop in one diocese ( can't remember the name) that is causing issues?


Dude please, the Biafra thing is just an excuse for intellectually lazy people to blame their failures on something/ someone else.

yes all politics is local as said by the igbo man quoting an america politician... Do you know that the thrive of a country or people is dependent on politican freedom which in turn yields economic freedom?
However, politics being local is it with an entity like this, called Nigeria?
Where there is rigging, voilent incitement and others is the politics local?
Could you please explain to us the meaning of politics being local and how it has been acheived in the sham called Nigeria in all its political activities?
Do your citizens have electorial right?
How can you develope when you have your (igbo) leaders being imposed by the northern orligarchy elites?
What do you think crumbled the tenure of Chris Ngige when he was the governor of Anambra because we all know that he had the people at heart and was working like none other before his power demise then being a rogue presently since the Nigeria word: if you can't beat them you join them?
If Nnewi and Aba are in the North or lagos do you think that their production brand won't be economically and power (grid) encouraged?
How many industries do your father know at these places still thrive rather ther relocate or close down, don't you think there's a pressure on them to do so and are they happy doing so?
My brother, we only school the wise ones, so don't bring out your dirty linens in the presence or workplace of a laundry-man because he will definitely do his bidding.

Luckymay:

So you think by defecting to biafra, you'd finally be free from captivity, your rights can finally be delivered to your doorstep?
You think there won't be any more looting nor corruption nor any other political vices? Come on wake up please. Unless biafra is to be ruled by the "invisible supreme being" that which you fear will still be rotating in cycle.

Who do you think you are, and what do you mean by defecting to Biafra, a true biafran will always be happy whenever he or she hears any good thing about Biafra anywhere, the zoo ha expired since 2014, I was born a Biafran, so can I know how I defected to Biafra?
Anybody who partakes in zoo politics is and cannot be s Biafran, you cannot be a child of God and partake in worldly affairs, you can observe of course, all these politicians that are against Biafra know what will happen to them when Biafra eventually arrives, and that us why you people fight tooth and nail to try to stop her, but you people will fail.

S6un:


Sorry but you have been brainwashed to think a country can only separate through war. We want a peaceful separation so every country can quickly begin to harness their potential.
I will like to see a football match between Biafra and let's say Oodua republic a few months after separation.

You want to play against Afonja Warriors. I can assure you that you will be 9 men down at the end of 90mins.
kiss the truth!

timeman:
You want to play against Afonja Warriors. I can assure you that you will be 9 men down at the end of 90mins.
kiss the truth!

Trust me BIAFRA VS OODUA REPUBLIC will be the greatest rivalry in world football. Even bigger than Argentina VS Brazil.
Biafra will always win anyway

cocoduck:
Who do you think you are, and what do you mean by defecting to Biafra, a true biafran will always be happy whenever he or she hears any good thing about Biafra anywhere, the zoo ha expired since 2014, I was born a Biafran, so can I know how I defected to Biafra?
Anybody who partakes in zoo politics is and cannot be s Biafran, you cannot be a child of God and partake in worldly affairs, you can observe of course, all these politicians that are against Biafra know what will happen to them when Biafra eventually arrives, and that us why you people fight tooth and nail to try to stop her, but you people will fail.

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S6un:


Trust me BIAFRA VS OODUA REPUBLIC will be the greatest rivalry in world football. Even bigger than Argentina VS Brazil.
Biafra will always win anyway

It would be ruthless both home & away. i would personally break some ankles. Afonja wins at home, either a win or draw away.
kiss the truth!

AngelAhnie:

barka they salah