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Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 8:11am On Sep 16, 2016
felixomor:
Lol,

Broad day light hijacking!
lol
I tire for am grin
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 8:13am On Sep 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
like I said, think deeper for a better example

its illegal to expose a kid to strippers

and as we already know evolving morality and its effect on so called "Christians"
Illegal by whom, you?
Other humans in places of power?

If society accepted it as moral, would you do it?.

Im feeling this your mental gymnastics. grin
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by hopefulLandlord: 8:18am On Sep 16, 2016
winner01:
Illegal by whom, you?
Other humans in places of power?

If society accepted it as moral, would you do it?.

Im feeling this your mental gymnastics. grin
I'm not here for "if"

its illegal, end of

tell me about evolving morality and its visible effects on Christianity

Certain things acceptable in Christianity today wasn't many years ago

I'm sure of we can go 100 years to the future, you'll see "Christians" of that era do things people like you would consider "immoral"
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 8:20am On Sep 16, 2016
HCpaul:
I have no passion for that. I will rather be interested in living on Mars and leave you people here on earth in isolation.

When we leave earth for you in order to dominate Mars, Jesus will come and rapture will take place cuz we ain't taking you along.
Lol.
So atheists are leaving undecided ehyaa ...
I think 4everGod would have laughed at your reply.

Secular humanism at its best.

Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 8:23am On Sep 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
I'm not here for "if"

its illegal, end of

tell me about evolving morality and its visible effects on Christianity

Certain things acceptable in Christianity today wasn't many years ago

I'm sure of we can go 100 years to the future, you'll see "Christians" of that era do things people like you would consider "immoral"
Whenever you say the world Christ-ianity, never forget the word Christ, the Lord of all.

I see you wish to change the argument, So what is immoral that christ allowed. Christ is our standard not society. Can you give examples of these immoralities?
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 8:26am On Sep 16, 2016
HCpaul:
Newton was ignorant of that fact and needed to be corrected.
I'm yet to see an atheist call Newton a real scientist.
You people are good comedians.
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by Nobody: 8:28am On Sep 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
I'm not here for "if"

its illegal, end of

tell me about evolving morality and its visible effects on Christianity

Certain things acceptable in Christianity today wasn't many years ago

I'm sure of we can go 100 years to the future, you'll see "Christians" of that era do things people like you would consider "immoral"
Suppositions!
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by hopefulLandlord: 8:32am On Sep 16, 2016
winner01:
Whenever you say the world Christ-ianity, never forget the word Christ, the Lord of all.

I see you wish to change the argument, So what is immoral that christ allowed. Christ is our standard not society. Can you give examples of these immoralities?
wearing of trousers by females

now you see most "Christians" explain away that portion that seems to forbid such by saying "guys we've been reading it out of context all these while"

in case of eating shellfish? (I can't remember the animal right now)

in the case of homosexuality when you hear "we are no longer under old testament" or "Sodom got destroyed for their "sins" and not for their homosexuality"

I actually see a future where almost all "Christians" disregard old testament totally

we have already seen such here, Christians just pick whichever of the laws is easy to follow and explain away the ones that are difficult to follow
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by hopefulLandlord: 8:33am On Sep 16, 2016
4everGod:
Suppositions!
I'm using the past and present to determine that and evidence so far points to a he higher chance of me being right
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by Nobody: 8:36am On Sep 16, 2016
HCpaul:
I have no passion for that. I will rather be interested in living on Mars and leave you people here on earth in isolation.

When we leave earth for you in order to dominate Mars, Jesus will come and rapture will take place cuz we ain't taking you along.
I guess I was right when I said you had a house on the moon but you claim your target is Mars.

Hahahahaha this guys wants to bail when its just getting good.

You have money for mars but none for the earth. Winner01 my day just lit up with this comment.

The guy is a secular humanistic sham.
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by Nobody: 8:38am On Sep 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
I'm using the past and present to determine that and evidence so far points to a he higher chance of me being right
Really? Do you know where Religion would be 200 yrs from now? More experienced people have already done that research on your behalf so make an informed attempt to look it up.

Your words and theories are simply hollow.
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by analice107: 8:39am On Sep 16, 2016
ColdHardTruth:
I'm a guy, I've got a dick
How am i sure you got a Dick? If i don't see it, Idonbilivit.
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 8:43am On Sep 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
wearing of trousers by females

now you see most "Christians" explain away that portion that seems to forbid such by saying "guys we've been reading it out of context all these while"

in case of eating shellfish? (I can't remember the animal right now)

in the case of homosexuality when you hear "we are no longer under old testament" or "Sodom got destroyed for their "sins" and not for their homosexuality"

I actually see a future where almost all "Christians" disregard old testament totally

we have already seen such here, Christians just pick whichever of the laws is easy to follow and explain away the ones that are difficult to follow
1. Wearing of trouser - Ill like you to point out to me in the Bible where trouser is meant for men and not robes.
Culture has a way of mixing with faith, dont be shallow.

2. Shellfish - Check this thread, i've tackled it there, thanks:
https://www.nairaland.com/3313223/reason-change-meanings-scriptures

3. Homosexuality- Remains a sin unto God, however if man repents of his evil ways, he will find forgiveness. We have countless cases of people who have repented from homosexuality.

4. You cant see the future, Faith is the eye to see the unseen.

5. God's word stands sure forever and ever.
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by hopefulLandlord: 8:46am On Sep 16, 2016
4everGod:
Really? Do you know where Religion would be 200 yrs from now? More experienced people have already done that research on your behalf so make an informed attempt to look it up.

Your words and theories are simply hollow.
"on my behalf"?

we all know what those "informed attempts" would be explaining away and choosing even lesser old testament laws to follow, I'm sure only tithes and offering would remain, call it hollow all you like, we are already seeing the signs in today's world, lots of Christians in the 90s consider females wearing trousers to be a sin, now its acceptable

homosexuality is now acceptable in almost all of Christianity in the united states; they explain it away the way they like

watch this space, only tight and offering would remain, and we all know the reason for that
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 8:50am On Sep 16, 2016
4everGod:
Really? Do you know where Religion would be 200 yrs from now? More experienced people have already done that research on your behalf so make an informed attempt to look it up.

Your words and theories are simply hollow.
Atheists are so unimformed and proud about it.
smh'


hopefulLandlord:
"on my behalf"?
we all know what those "informed attempts" would be explaining away and choosing even lesser old testament laws to follow, I'm sure only tithes and offering would remain, call it hollow all you like, we are already seeing the signs in today's world, lots of Christians in the 90s consider females wearing trousers to be a sin, now its acceptable
homosexuality is now acceptable in almost all of Christianity in the united states; they explain it away the way they like
watch this space, only tight and offering would remain, and we all know the reason for that
Some people will make this same comment in the next 100 years grin
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by hopefulLandlord: 8:51am On Sep 16, 2016
winner01:
1. Wearing of trouser - Ill like you to point out to me in the Bible where trouser is meant for men and not robes.
Culture has a way of mixing with faith, dont be shallow.

2. Shellfish - Check this thread, i've tackled it there, thanks:
https://www.nairaland.com/3313223/reason-change-meanings-scriptures

3. Homosexuality- Remains a sin unto God, however if man repents of his evil ways, he will find forgiveness. We have countless cases of people who have repented from homosexuality.

4. You cant see the future, Faith is the eye to see the unseen.

5. God's word stands sure forever and ever.
like I said, explain it all away

we'll see what happens when homosexuality becomes acceptable in Nigeria

hopefully, we'll still be alive by then

when it does, you and I would see with our own eyes

there's a "ready made" explaining away when polygamy becomes acceptable in the US for instance

its pretty obvious "Christians" just chose whichever laws is easy
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by raphieMontella: 8:55am On Sep 16, 2016
winner01:
Galileo was a christian who was killed by the catholic, many other christians were also killed by the catholic. William tyndale was killed for translating the Bible to english. The spanish inquisition, crusades, witchcraft burnings was masterminded by the catholic. We are aware of all the evils the catholic has committed.
thats your concern o by trying to isolate the catholics
They are christians..simple
I am not getting your point.

And when did:
"Trust in the LORD with all your heart And do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your paths straight.…" Proverbs 3:5


Become:

"Do not engage in the understanding of your world, for God will be angry with you and you will be killed by the catholic church."
apply it to modern day science vs scientific word of a creator(holy books)
if the bible is the word of god...and we are told something about science in your book..bt later on science comes and discovers the real truth..
What do we do?
Acknowledge our own findings ? Or dwell on what a ''book/words'' of a supposed creator told us?
If we follow our own knowledge are we not defying that command of this deity?
E.g the creation story..(thats just a tip of the iceberg)
Go and check other atheist website fir the verse, the website that gave you this verse is terrible. lol
i doubt if you'd see it on an atheist site...but u'd see it on a christian site...it's targeted at kids....i knew this verse since i was young
..
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 8:56am On Sep 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
like I said, explain it all away

we'll see what happens when homosexuality becomes acceptable in Nigeria

hopefully, we'll still be alive by then

when it does, you and I would see with our own eyes

there's a "ready made" explaining away when polygamy becomes acceptable in the US for instance

its pretty obvious "Christians" just chose whichever laws is easy
You just say thinks to feel good. Its understandable.

I think it would be better if you just remove the verse of the Bible that condemns homosexuality. You really want the Bible to be wrong. I get. Keep at it. smiley
God still loves you though.
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by raphieMontella: 8:58am On Sep 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
like I said, explain it all away

we'll see what happens when homosexuality becomes acceptable in Nigeria

hopefully, we'll still be alive by then

when it does, you and I would see with our own eyes

there's a "ready made" explaining away when polygamy becomes acceptable in the US for instance

its pretty obvious "Christians" just chose whichever laws is easy
christian morals will keep on evolving...no doubt..and they'd still claim its this same ''holy spirit'' who doesnt change thats still telling them that its no longer sinful..
In those days..polygamy was okay..no problemo with it...
Marriage of minors was okay...
But the holy spirit was with them
Now? No..
This same holy spirit is still with them..
Aint this folly?
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 9:00am On Sep 16, 2016
raphieMontella:
thats your concern o by trying to isolate the catholics
They are christians..simple

apply it to modern day science vs scientific word of a creator(holy books)
if the bible is the word of god...and we are told something about science in your book..bt later on science comes and discovers the real truth..
What do we do?
Acknowledge our own findings ? Or dwell on what a ''book/words'' of a supposed creator told us?
If we follow our own knowledge are we not defying that command of this deity?
E.g the creation story..(thats just a tip of the iceberg)

i doubt if you'd see it on an atheist site...but u'd see it on a christian site...it's targeted at kids....i knew this verse since i was young
..
What is the meaning of scientific word of a creator?

When the the Bible become a science textbook?

Are you really a free thinker or just thinking the thoughts of atheist high priests?

Why not be objective?

Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by hopefulLandlord: 9:01am On Sep 16, 2016
winner01:
You just say thinks to feel good. Its understandable.

I think it would be better if you just remove the verse of the Bible that condemns homosexuality. You really want the Bible to be wrong. I get. Keep at it. smiley
God still loves you though.
nah, its you guys that chose whatever laws to follow

I wouldn't remove it but I'm sure, several threads would be opened by Christian apologists in the future defending homosexuality, using words like "out of context" "mosaic law" "just laws of the land at the time"

bible to be wrong? lol, you must love the sound of your own voice
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 9:01am On Sep 16, 2016
raphieMontella:
christian morals will keep on evolving...no doubt..and they'd still claim its this same ''holy spirit'' who doesnt change thats still telling them that its no longer sinful..
In those days..polygamy was okay..no problemo with it...
Marriage of minors was okay...
But the holy spirit was with them
Now? No..
This same holy spirit is still with them..
Aint this folly?
Ehyaa...
Sorry..
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by hopefulLandlord: 9:04am On Sep 16, 2016
raphieMontella:
christian morals will keep on evolving...no doubt..and they'd still claim its this same ''holy spirit'' who doesnt change thats still telling them that its no longer sinful..
In those days..polygamy was okay..no problemo with it...
Marriage of minors was okay...
But the holy spirit was with them
Now? No..
This same holy spirit is still with them..
Aint this folly?
its hilarious isn't it?

they just twist it to fit the laws of the land by explaining it away

they might say, god "permitted" it then but now its a sin
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by raphieMontella: 9:04am On Sep 16, 2016
winner01:
Ehyaa... Sorry..
u know i speak the truth... The worse is even the hebrews..in those days They were with god directlyy...like wtf?
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 9:04am On Sep 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
nah, its you guys that chose whatever laws to follow

I wouldn't remove it but I'm sure, several threads would be opened by Christian apologists in the future defending homosexuality, using words like "out of context" "mosaic law" "just laws of the land at the time"

bible to be wrong? lol, you must love the sound of your own voice
Is the mosaic law also in the new testament?

Have you heard of the new convenant?

Have you ever read the Bible?

If the Bible was wrong, it would have died 500 years ago of constant poking and ridiculing. It will be smiling at your great grandchildren in the next 500 years. grin
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by raphieMontella: 9:05am On Sep 16, 2016
analice107:
How am i sure you got a Dick? If i don't see it, Idonbilivit.
chai!
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by hopefulLandlord: 9:06am On Sep 16, 2016
winner01:
Is the mosaic law also in the new testament?

Have you heard of the new convenant?

Have you ever read the Bible?

If the Bible was wrong, it would have died 500 years ago of constant poking and ridiculing. It will be smiling at your great grandchildren in the next 500 years. grin
does that new covenant forbid homosexuality? where in the new testament is that?
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by hopefulLandlord: 9:08am On Sep 16, 2016
raphieMontella:
chai!
its obvious she watches porn
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by winner01(m): 9:10am On Sep 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
its hilarious isn't it?
they just twist it to fit the laws of the land by explaining it away
they might say, god "permitted" it then but now its a sin
raphieMontella:
u know i speak the truth...
The worse is even the hebrews..in those days
They were with god directlyy...like wtf?
Ok!, lets cut short the long story. What do you want me to do? Do you want me to be an atheist? grin
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by Nobody: 9:11am On Sep 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
like I said, explain it all away

we'll see what happens when homosexuality becomes acceptable in Nigeria

hopefully, we'll still be alive by then

when it does, you and I would see with our own eyes

there's a "ready made" explaining away when polygamy becomes acceptable in the US for instance

its pretty obvious "Christians" just chose whichever laws is easy
You always fail to view issues from their foundation so always offer surface talk. Christianity had a foundation and a set of guidelines. If anyone is pushing for the furtherance of ill morals which are unchristian as found in Gods word then they are not Christians but morally corrupt persons and not Christians in the light of Gods word.

People are not our standard but Christ and His words are.

This is the reason why till today we still have people speaking up against such vices including the secular world and the medical field due to infections and weird diseases emanating from such.

You see the Word of God stands sure and true and will only get stronger in the face of adversity in the world.
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by raphieMontella: 9:11am On Sep 16, 2016
winner01:
What is the meaning of scientific word of a creator?
eg the ''scriptures'' as revealed by this creator
When the the Bible become a science textbook?
why does it then have to tell us its the word of a scientific creator?
Take for example..the genesis story?
Why would a scientific creator have little knowledge of science?

Are you really a free thinker or just thinking the thoughts of atheist high priests?
my personal beliefs oga..
The ''bible'' was created by catholics..so they could do what they liked with it..also they prevented persons from reading the book to cover up their ''practices'' as opposed in the same book they created..
Nna ehn !this is funny
Why not be objective?
i am..i really am
im seeing you're tryna isolate the catholics as christians..oga they are..so long you ''take the bible seriously'' they'd be termed christians because they justified their actions with biblical passages
Re: Why A Preacher Gave Up On Jesus And Became an Atheist Activist; Jerry DeWitt by raphieMontella: 9:13am On Sep 16, 2016
winner01:
Ok!, lets cut short the long story. What do you want me to do? Do you want me to be an atheist? grin
no o!
Science will..not me!
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