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4everGod:
hahahaha chai. The guys comprehension is zero

The subject's mistake can be culled from the highlighted parts in this statement:

Try to imagine: You’re a Pentecostal preacher in small-town Louisiana. Your public reputation, your connection with the people you love, indeed your own sense of self-worth, not to mention your livelihood, are hugely dependent on your passionate faith in Christ.
[size=18pt]You’ve struggled to make a reputation for yourself as a man of God, a conduit of the Holy Spirit,[/size] who can bring spiritual hope and healing to the people around you. You’ve struggled to balance the rigorous demands of your religious calling with the pressing practical needs of your family.

[size=15pt]Going about ministry with that as your goal is a recipe for failure; indeed such one MUST experience the ministry as a misery! The anointing will NEVER aid you if that's your aim[/size]

Scholar8200:
Anyone that hears you speak will think Christian faith started in the 21st century.

Seriously, The guy is one of the atheists with the least logical and mental capacity on nairaland.

4everGod:
You keep doing this over and over again and it always brings to question your ability to understand a thing before speaking. What are Old testament Laws? What is a biblical Law and what is Immorality? If you can get the foundation of both then you would see the difference and stop this your erroneous argument.

your attempting to wriggle out of a corner is already known by me

"what's immoral in the old testament is also immoral in the new"

that's clear enough

that's a link provided by one of you

you can ask questions, any questions in your attempt at wriggling but the statement stays the same

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Scholar8200:
The subject's mistake can be culled from the highlighted parts in this statement:

Try to imagine: You’re a Pentecostal preacher in small-town Louisiana. Your public reputation, your connection with the people you love, indeed your own sense of self-worth, not to mention your livelihood, are hugely dependent on your passionate faith in Christ.
[size=18pt]You’ve struggled to make a reputation for yourself as a man of God, a conduit of the Holy Spirit,[/size] who can bring spiritual hope and healing to the people around you. You’ve struggled to balance the rigorous demands of your religious calling with the pressing practical needs of your family.

Going about ministry with that as your goal is a recipe for failure; indeed such one MUST experience the ministry as a misery!

lol of course since they do not know the basis of service to God and ministry they feel he embraced God with all his heart and then recanted along the line when his very foundation was super faulty. Let Him come to Nigeria and see Pastors remaining faithful in the face of adversity or go to Afghanistan or any of the other Arab nations and see same. Real value comes when we detached ourselves from earthly reward and acceptance.

raphieMontella:
ok ma...i hope u see the dick you so much long for
hopefully you'd be satisfied

Your mouth no dey heavy you? you dey put mouth for adults talk ba? u lack home training? wen adults are talking adults talk, u shut up.

hopefulLandlord:
your attempting to wriggle out of a corner is already known by me

"what's immoral in the old testament is also immoral in the new"

that's clear enough

that's a link provided by one of you

you can ask questions, any questions in your attempt at wriggling but the statement stays the same

.

You still do not get it do you? Gosh!

Old testament immorality is not different from New testament immorailty... The laws of old testament condemn immorality and the life of the new testament also condemn immorality but forces us not to react like in the old and also enables God not to react as he would in the old.

We now have a life and no longer laws. You on the other hand equate laws with immorality as if the laws were immoral. The laws were a guide to the reality of the new testament which would clearly show in detail...why the law was given, what its purpose was, and how to work in it without itemizing it thereby not always having it before us like a set of rules but rather having it inscribed in our hearts in form of Love.

Upgrade your comprehension.

4everGod:
lol of course since they do not know the basis of service to God and ministry they feel he embraced God with all his heart and then recanted along the line when his very foundation was super faulty. Let Him come to Nigeria and see Pastors remaining faithful in the face of adversity or go to Afghanistan or any of the other Arab nations and see same. Real value comes when we detached ourselves from earthly reward and acceptance.

God bless you. Those who have a passionate love and faith in Christ left comfortable homes to go to places of great risk to preach, some never return home, they die there and their families REMAIN there to preach!

Then the op comes with this and thinks ...(only God knows).

Op, let me recommend to you some men of like passions like your subject- Richard Wurmbrand, Adoniram Judson, Jim Elliott(was speared to death by the very tribe he wanted to preach to, guess what? after he was killed his wife stayed back to preach and succeeded), Peter and Betty Stam, David Livingstone, Samuel Morris, Watchman Nee etc

It seems the devil hopes to leverage on the drop in reading culture to amplify the negatives and sell bronze as gold!

Scholar8200:
God bless you. Those who have a passionate love and faith in Christ left comfortable homes to go to places of great risk to preach, some never return home, they die there and their families REMAIN there to preach!

Then the op comes with this and thinks ...(only God knows).

It seems the devil hopes to leverage on the drop in reading culture to amplify the negatives and sell bronze as gold!

lol @ selling bronze as gold. That has been his modus operandi all along....DECEPTION! And the gullible are buying it and turning out to be Atheists yet they call us unintelligent. smh

I have a feeling I will become a very successful pastor in Nigeria. What have I got to lose? 90% of the popular are gullible. They don't need to see god,they defend it so much.

ifenes:
I have a feeling I will become a very successful pastor in Nigeria. What have I got to lose? 90% of the popular are gullible. They don't need to see god,they defend it so much.

And less than 3% have the delusion of being smart by fighting a God they claim does not exist and aggresively campaigning against him with their time, energy and resources. Yeah we see the gullible ones who do not realise that any news is news be it good or bad...Ask those in advertising!

4everGod:
And less than 3% have the delusion of being smart by fighting a God they claim does not exist and aggresively campaigning against him with their time, energy and resources. Yeah we see the gullible ones who do not realise that any news is news be it good or bad...Ask those in advertising!

Not really a fight against a god that doesn't exist,but a fight against a dangerous and addictive idea that help is in the sky. I know what it feels like to live in the land of the blind.

ifenes:
Not really a fight against a god that doesn't exist,but a fight against a dangerous and addictive idea that help is in the sky. I know what it feels like to live in the land of the blind.

A fight against an idea you claim has no real foundation right? So if this idea has no real foundation according to you why not leave it to implode or collapse by itself? Why fight the non existent? Why ridicule yourself by fighting an idea you claim has no source?

You have employed the means of countering this "idea" with your own "idea" called atheism and according to world statistics your atheism "idea" is on the decline. How so? Could it be that it has no roots and no foundations?

The "idea" called religion has been projected to grow exponentially by over 50% in the next 100 to 200yrs.....could this be because it does have a foundation?

You claim to be scientifically inclined so do us all a favour and scientifically evaluate this and post your findings.

4everGod:
I remember saying i would give you a link yesterday. You keep holding on to this evolution like its your life force. Here is the link and check the date before reading.

this is a problem for abiogenesis nau not basically evolution...

So you feel anyone is against gravity? You need to hone your comic skills its strong.

lol..it could be a supernatural phenomenom#gravity

http://cnsnews.com/commentary/eric-metaxas/evolution-just-got-harder-defend

evolution is a fact..the theory is disputable,,open to reformation etc..thats why they most times say darwinists...
Like gravity is a fact..
A better site
mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/science/oldest-fossils-on-earth.html?_r=1&referer=

4everGod:
You are uninformed and unintelligent...I am not

if you are not..then i am not.. So i can confidently say newton does not mean ''perfection''

raphieMontella:
this is a problem for abiogenesis nau not basically evolution...


lol..it could be a supernatural phenomenom#gravity

evolution is a fact..the theory is disputable,,open to reformation etc..thats why they most times say darwinists...
Like gravity is a fact..
A better site
mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/science/oldest-fossils-on-earth.html?_r=1&referer=

why does it not surprise me that you would want to explain it away. lol

I believe you would be alive in another 50yrs so lets see if you would be an atheist by then and if Religion would fail.

By that time as well you will see how evolution would become comical and remember this day.

analice107:
Your mouth no dey heavy you? you dey put mouth for adults talk ba? u lack home training? wen adults are talking adults talk, u shut up.

see this old mama!
Be there claiming ''adult''
u wish!

raphieMontella:
if you are not..then i am not..
So i can confidently say newton does not mean ''perfection''

And Charles Darwin does?

4everGod:
why does it not surprise me that you would want to explain it away. lol

just like blood was thought to be on a dinosaur fossil as a result of young age..with time it would be understood well..

I believe you would be alive in another 50yrs

sure na!
Did u want to kill me before?

so lets see if you would be an atheist by then and if Religion would fail.

secular nations are rising

By that time as well you will see how evolution would become comical and remember this day.

even if...we both have comical stories..


At best..science points to ''creators''

4everGod:
A fight against an idea you claim has no real foundation right? So if this idea has no real foundation according to you why not leave it to implode or collapse by itself? Why fight the non existent? Why ridicule yourself by fighting an idea you claim has no source?

You have employed the means of countering this "idea" with your own "idea" called atheism and according to world statistics your atheism "idea" is on the decline. How so? Could it be that it has no roots and no foundations?

The "idea" called religion has been projected to grow exponentially by over 50% in the next 100 to 200yrs.....could this be because it does have a foundation?

You claim to be scientifically inclined so do us all a favour and scientifically evaluate this and post your findings.

Has anyone come to count the amount of Atheist in Nigeria? No statistic you bring up will be right, so enjoy your Christianity while it lasts. Its growing weak and extinct. I converted my lil cousin last week. In fact he was so happy to let god go. Imagine how many folks are waking up daily....maybe you too soon and we will be here talking about how you used to be a Christian. A bit of reality check is all you need. You will change that username in common sense name! AmenRA

4everGod:
And Charles Darwin does?

no...but what has been in existence(nature and its wahever) before they discovered them are..
Anybody can be wrong....
but''creator'' is not by any means exlusively theism

winner01:
Which statistics?

Is there any natural statistic that shows the supernatural?

Why is it that, despite being prayerful nations, religious countries are poor?

https://surestakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/religious-poor-nations.png

ifenes:
No my children will not suffer the same child abuse as you did. They will be taught how to think and not what to think.

That ending would have been perfect. Including that last part just made it sound like indoctrination as well. I mean, your kids may well choose to be Christians or Muslims or Budhists even after teaching them to think. What matters is that you teach them to be rational and not tell them what to and not to think.

4everGod:
So teaching your kids how to think so that they can think themselves into beastiality and whoredom isnt child abuse?

This is fear mongering. Not how the religious message should be disseminated

ifenes:
Has anyone come to count the amount of Atheist in Nigeria? No statistic you bring up will be right, so enjoy your Christianity while it lasts. Its growing weak and extinct. I converted my lil cousin last week. In fact he was so happy to let god go. Imagine how many folks are waking up daily....maybe you too soon and we will be here talking about how you used to be a Christian. A bit of reality check is all you need. You will change that username in common sense name! AmenRA

Have you been to China or India lately? I suggest you do and then tell them Christianity is on the decline. I wish you knew how statistics is gathered. Nigeria is known worldwide as being very religious as some believe in gods or God but so so infinitesimal are those who hold on to nothing but they eventually do at the end of the day. Your cousin whom you claimed you "converted" is obviously still a kid like you and will come around eventually same way Christopher hitchens converted his brother Peter Hitchens to atheism and Peter became more aggresive than Christopher but later found Christ and today is dismantling all that Christopher established.

We dey look.

RosaConsidine:
That ending would have been perfect. Including that last part just made it sound like indoctrination as well. I mean, your kids may well choose to be Christians or Muslims or Budhists even after teaching them to think. What matters is that you teach them to be rational and not tell them what to and not to think.

A well educated child will not see religion as a way of life but will rather see the world as full of challenges and will strive to survive. Set backs are normal,standing up after each fall is a must

If my child turns religious(which is almost impossible),that would be his choice.

ifenes:
A well educated child will not see religion as a way of life but will rather see the world as full of challenge and will strive to survive. Set backs are normal,standing up after each fall is a must

If my child turns religious(which is almost impossible),that would be his choice.

Yet you are celebrating converting your cousin....lol


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4everGod:
Have you been to China or India lately? I suggest you do and then tell them Christianity is on the decline. I wish you knew how statistics is gathered. Nigeria is known worldwide as being very religious as some believe in gods or God but so so infinitesimal are those who hold on to nothing but they eventually do at the end of the day. Your cousin whom you claimed you "converted" is obviously still a kid like you and will come around eventually same way Christopher hitchens converted his brother Peter Hitchens to atheism and Peter became more aggresive than Christopher but later found Christ and today is dismantling all that Christopher established.

We dey look.

No my cousin is 21 and has always been scared to own up to his disbelieve in religion. I made him realism religion is for poor people and he has no business being one of them. Religion takes from you and gives you nothing back.

ifenes:
Has anyone come to count the amount of Atheist in Nigeria? No statistic you bring up will be right, so enjoy your Christianity while it lasts. Its growing weak and extinct. I converted my lil cousin last week. In fact he was so happy to let god go. Imagine how many folks are waking up daily....maybe you too soon and we will be here talking about how you used to be a Christian. A bit of reality check is all you need. You will change that username in common sense name! AmenRA

majority of atheists still profess one religion or the other

most atheists I know still go to church and act like everyone else

such a person is seen as "religious" by almost everyone

atheism is increasing by the day, one step at a time and there's nothing those people with imaginary friends can do about it, hell I won't be surprised if they're next in line to turn

4everGod:
Yet you are celebrating converting your cousin....lol


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Be honest dude....what have you benefited from religion?

ifenes:
Be honest dude....what have you benefited from religion?

watch him give bags of air as answer

hopefulLandlord:
watch him give bags of air as answer

He is probably googling an answer to post.

This answer should come in a heartbeat 4evergod