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nextstep:
I really want this to take off, I really do.

But you know these things typically use electric motors to move... which means that around 6pm, in rush hour, you're above ground, and PHCN seizes light... And if you're unlucky that there's fuel scarcity, you're going to spend the night in that pod, dangling with no way to get down.

No thanks. Government: please solve the existing issues first, before you create new one.

The LCCT will operate completely independent of the state grid with each station having its own natural gas (primary) and diesel (standby) power generating plants with rotary UPS backup. Other centralized facilities including management offices, operational control rooms, maintenance workshops and a Eumetsat real-time satellite weather and predictive forecasting station. The Project will provide commuters with an affordable, safe, timely and stress-free mode of transportation around the metropolis.

http://ropewaystransport.com/index.php/en/

The Doppelmayr/Garaventa Group



https://www.doppelmayr.com/en/products/

aresssa:
Ipobs, we know progress and development is bad news to you, it makes you sad, but you should save your sadness and sorrow for your backward and unproductive villages with lazy, worthless and incompetent governors who can not even build a dig cage...

johnjose68:
What Do You Mean Nothing!!
The East Have IPOD[B?] The South Have [SC]Avenger.

mapet:


@Aresa, can you imagine a typical mindset of someone that calls himself a Nigerian youth?

https://cdn.guardian.ng//wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Dapo-Olumide1-Copy.jpg

Chairman

Capt Dapo Olumide - Chief Executive Officer



http://ropewaystransport.com/index.php/en/

soberdrunk:
Is the timing right? Should this be a priority for Lagos state at this point in time? Then the big issue of "Maintenance" ! Let it not turn to another white elephant project like our almighty 'Mono rail' in Rivers state.....

aarressa:
They know it uses electric motors and electricity and they've covered all that with completely independent power source in each station with even another back up system to back up that that back up system..

The private investors staking quarter of a billion dollars investment are smarter than you, they are a million miles ahead of your layman and elementary school thinking.

If things are left to these lowly and ignorant thinking ipob villagers like their vision-less and incompetent governors, Nigeria won't move ahead, not even an inch..

nextstep:
Hah hah hah... I don't doubt that they are much smarter (and much much richer) than me. I was more doubtful of the supporting infrastructure.

We have a country where several international airports have lost power for hours in recent memory. They had backups, but, you know, no fuel, abi no spare parts.
We have natural gas that can't be delivered to its destination because, you know, militants.
We have had IPP that can't remain powered for any reasonable length of time, or so I'm told, hence I'm not too confident that this particular independent plant, for a cable car, will somehow be different.

If they can demonstrate the system to work consistently for 2-5 years with no issues, then I will happily withdraw my skepticism and celebrate with them. It's just that dumb little me thinks money can be better spent fixing more pressing infrastructural problems, than introducing new ones. Nevertheless, the best of luck to them.

aarressa:
The fact that you made a silly, layman and ignorant opinion based on what the private entities involved have though about in their planning stage and final plans means that they are smarter than you and ahead of you so kindly keep quiet and stop boring us with your ignorant babbles..

nextstep:
There are lot of well funded businesses that fail every year all over the world for various reasons: wrong market, incompetent execution, bad timing, and plain old bad luck. The people involved were all quite smart, with a lot of experience in all sorts of fields. Still businesses fail. Most have MBAs with well thought-out business plans, or scientific folks with solid understanding of theory and applied practice, which are vetted by third parties. Yet businesses fail.

The fact that one has an idea, has lined up investors or financing, and have the backing of a regulatory body does not mean that the business is solid gold. I'm not sure why you insist that these people are infallible. You are of the opinion that they have a good business case, and I'm arguing otherwise, with some of my reasons why this is not going to work:

- infrastructure is not ready for faultless operation which could leave passengers stranded up high (fuel or gas or backup)
- the market is not there (if this is supposed to ease congestion, they'd need a much faster mode of transport)
- it has limited scope. How many cable lines will be build to service different areas? Or is it only this single one being proposed?
- is this a charity? I don't see the numbers that suggest they'd recoup their cost this century

Even if you have a vested interest in this cable car, it would be more fruitful to explain why you think this is a sure banker.

nextstep:
Everybody wants to make their money pushing a tech they've invested time and money in... no problem. But the more I look at these pictures, the more I'm convinced that this is bullsh*t.

Will these cable cars really solve congestion? Have you seen any major city in the world use cable cars as a serious (not tourist) people mover? Not me. The carrying-capacity of these things is so low, their speed is so slow, and if something happens in a single car, the entire stretch of cable is f*cked.

I've been to their site www.doppelmayr.com which clearly shows that this thing is meant for resorts, forget their claim of 3,900 people/hr transport capacity. I can only understand it if it's just a pleasure ride for a few privileged commuters who can pay to skip all the traffic below (all 26 of them per hour). The Obudu cable car is nice and beautiful, perfect for that tourist site. But for a fast paced place like Lagos with million commuters, give me a break.

Lagos should just bite the bullet, get some bonds to build commuter rail and subways, just like the rest of the world. If they were serious they'd also solve the power issue once and for all and stop messing around with toy projects. But I suspect they'll stay with this cable car because it, like a lot of things in Nigeria, gives the appearance of being developed, without actually being developed.

[img]http://eyeonlatinamerica.files./2014/10/colombia-medellin-100-resilient-cities1.jpg[/img]


Bolivia is now home to the world’s largest urban cable car system, connecting two of the world’s highest major cities, and transforming the lives of tens of thousands of commuters.

This is where the new cable car system comes in. Inaugurated in May this year, the publicly-owned Mi Teleférico consists of three lines connecting El Alto with central La Paz. Built at a cost of around US$250m, it is already capable of carrying up to 10,000 passengers in each direction per hour. A journey from central La Paz to El Alto’s world-famous 16 de Julio street market now takes a mere ten minutes.



https://eyeonlatinamerica.com/2014/10/31/cable-cars-reach-new-heights-in-bolivias-capital/

nextstep:
Everybody wants to make their money pushing a tech they've invested time and money in... no problem. But the more I look at these pictures, the more I'm convinced that this is bullsh*t.

Will these cable cars really solve congestion? Have you seen any major city in the world use cable cars as a serious (not tourist) people mover? Not me. The carrying-capacity of these things is so low, their speed is so slow, and if something happens in a single car, the entire stretch of cable is f*cked.

I've been to their site www.doppelmayr.com which clearly shows that this thing is meant for resorts, forget their claim of 3,900 people/hr transport capacity. I can only understand it if it's just a pleasure ride for a few privileged commuters who can pay to skip all the traffic below (all 26 of them per hour). The Obudu cable car is nice and beautiful, perfect for that tourist site. But for a fast paced place like Lagos with million commuters, give me a break.

Lagos should just bite the bullet, get some bonds to build commuter rail and subways, just like the rest of the world. If they were serious they'd also solve the power issue once and for all and stop messing around with toy projects. But I suspect they'll stay with this cable car because it, like a lot of things in Nigeria, gives the appearance of being developed, without actually being developed.

Are gondolas the next big thing in urban transport?

These sentiments were echoed by Michael McDaniel, a designer from innovation firm Frog Design and advocate of an urban gondola for Austin, Texas, in an interview with Marketplace earlier this year. He estimated that the cost of building a gondola comes in at between $3 million and $12 million per mile, comparing favorably against $400 million per mile for subway systems and $36 million per mile for light rail systems.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/13/business/skypods-gondolas-urban-transport/

aarressa:
Cable car = $2-12 million per mile

Metro rail- $36 million per mile

Subway = $400 million per mile



Do the math if you are competent enough to do basic arithmetic..

true2home:
on a softer note, why is Someone looking Up, while everybody else are looking Down I cant stop laughing when i noticed it!

Brooklynsouth:
is lagos the only state, why is Osun like a slum,oyo like shrine,ekiti like burial ground and ondo like playing ground nd come to think Of it all These. Yoruba nairalander y do u all claim lagos indigenes why Lagos is no man's land according to nigerian government even someone like aressa from typical bush in osun. Claims lagosian nawa lagos is our common wealth and no one ,I repeat no cone head that looks bornvita container can claim it

aarressa:
Must he look down or there is a law somewhere that says you must look down when people talk?

Or they didn't teach you to look at people in the face when they talk?

You people come up with the silliest and pointless rubbish..

DisGuy:
Updates? Pics?

Untainted007:
Ok till then; but Lagos government should not forget that countries that have this already planned for it from inception. Structurally Lagos is congested already. If that is the case, so many people will still be rendered homeless. God will help us all.

Brooklynsouth:
is lagos the only state, why is Osun like a slum,oyo like shrine,ekiti like burial ground and ondo like playing ground nd come to think Of it all These. Yoruba nairalander y do u all claim lagos indigenes why Lagos is no man's land according to nigerian government even someone like aressa from typical bush in osun. Claims lagosian nawa lagos is our common wealth and no one ,I repeat no cone head that looks bornvita container can claim it

amarilo:
Is this a mocking post or what?