"There are only two groups of people in the world: Christians and those who hate GOD." -DoctorAlien

"Atheists are people who hate GOD because His holy nature condemns their lifestyle."

AnonyNymous:

As I said, its not my job to educate you in evolution.
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Don't misquote me, I didn't say I hated Biafra, I only showed an example of how something that doesn't exist can cause massive actions from people. Personally I have no opinion on the issue, because I'm not an Easterner. I'm just watching the drama unfold. May whoever is truly right succeed.
the god of the bible doesn't exist as well, but I'm against the actions that non existent entity causes.

The question was never whether something that doesn't exist can cause action: they can. The question is: why do you atheists vituperate GOD when you see a Christian falter? Do you vituperate leprechauns and fairies when their followers falter?

The biafra analogy: do you insult biafra whenever an Igbo is in the news for the wrong reason?

secure:


Iet me explain this way.....There is no way freewill will work with omniscient power..... What God did was alter the way The power works by giving us is freewill.... Thus the power works this way.....

Now..... If Eve did not listen to lucifer.... GOD knows the future of that decision

If Eve listen to lucifer.... GOD also knows the future of that decision......

This way the future is nt set for human beings.... You set it base on ur decision.....

Now to ur question.... If God knows the decision Eve will take

Yes..... God's have the power to know ur future decision even before you even take it..... But if he knows the future that means..... The future is already set...... Regardless of what you do.......


What he now did is....... Remove the set future n replaces it with unset future(with d condition based on decision)

Now the decision.....

If you choose to do nothing.... He knows the future of such decision

If you choose to follow "A"..... He knows the future of such decision

If you choose to follow " B"..... He knows the future of such decision


So anything you choose to do.... The future is dia....


Itz somehow complex (very difficult) to understand how God works.....

But God is playing a very wicked game with us...... Believe it or not.......

God is both Good n Evil....... Perfect balance of everything

What do you think will happen if he withhold his omnipresent when you
are in danger and you need his help ?

DoctorAlien:


How can something that does not exist be insane?

Don't you think it is much more ridiculous to believe you descended from a worm?

Lol

promise10:

Who knows what you think as god!

God is an idea created by man, first as an excuse for our ignorance eg who created the earth? Instead of saying "I do not know", the person replied with "God did it". Same applies with a lot of other questions.

Then this idea became widely accepted and the elites realized it could be used to control naive and illiterate masses and thus enforce their rule.

But, I would be appreciate to have a discussion on this topic....

In person? I live In Ogun state though

promise10:

This happens when you trying to use the case of multiple gods to rule out the reality of the REAL one, which doesn't make sense IN ANY CASE to say "there ain't no God".

I tell you, the WORST DELUDED question I have ever met in athesim-theism argument is; "Among 5000 gods, which of them is the real one?"

This is actually a legit question because each of these 5,000 religions make the same exact claim. That their god is real and the true one.

I bet you it is not as ridiculous as Christianity's claim that it is the true religion but is divided into 33,000 different denominations. In fact, most Christians will attest to having left different denominations in search of the true church.

So, if I was to ask you what Christian denomination is the true one, will you also consider it a deluded question? If yes, then that means you agree that the catholic, Jehovah witness, olumba olumba, CAC, C&S, RCCG, SCOAN are all true churches, right?

To me that question means SO MUCH of a delusion to me. I hope to put up a thread on that soon, but just busy these days.

Still waiting

DoctorAlien:
"There are only two groups of people in the world: Christians and those who hate GOD." -DoctorAlien

"Atheists are people who hate GOD because His holy nature condemns their lifestyle."

Nice reasoning.

DoctorAlien:
"There are only two groups of people in the world: Christians and those who hate GOD." -DoctorAlien

"Atheists are people who hate GOD because His holy nature condemns their lifestyle."

Lol. And what about the hypocrisy, exploitation and lies that go on in the church?

hahn:


Lol. And what about the hypocrisy, exploitation and lies that go on in the church?

GOD condemns hypocrites and liars alike. He is not partial.

Well, He condemns nobody: He condemns their lifestyle.

DoctorAlien:
"There are only two groups of people in the world: Christians and those who hate GOD." -DoctorAlien

"Atheists are people who hate GOD because His holy nature condemns their lifestyle."

Lol. Lmao at this reasoning, so your conclusion is that there are only Christians and people that hate God in this world, what a simplistic and puerile conclusion. What about Muslims, do they not believe in God are they misotheist, or the Jews who also believe in God, what about every other religion beside Christianity that are monotheistic.
Gods holy nature also supports rape, slavery, sexism and genocide. So whose lifestyle does God have the right to condemn.
You think just putting a picture of Einstein under a quote makes it seem more intelligent.

Lennycool:

Lol. Lmao at this reasoning, so your conclusion is that there are only Christians and people that hate God in this world, what a simplistic and puerile conclusion. What about Muslims, do they not believe in God are they misotheist, or the Jews who also believe in God, what about every other religion beside Christianity that are monotheistic.
Gods holy nature also supports rape, slavery, sexism and genocide. So whose lifestyle does God have the right to condemn.
You think just putting a picture of Einstein under a quote makes it seem more intelligent.

But my quote stands true. The divide between true Christians and those who hate GOD is clear enough. You cannot deny it.

You neither know who GOD is nor what His character is. You've just heard about GOD.

Anyway, hate GOD and embrace destruction or turn to Him receive eternal life.

All the best.

DoctorAlien:




But my quote stands true. The divide between true Christians and those who hate GOD is clear enough. You cannot deny it.

You neither know who GOD is nor what His character is. You've just heard about GOD.

Anyway, hate GOD and embrace destruction or turn to Him receive eternal life.

All the best.

And you can keep embracing ignorance. Your God is a psychopath, yet you say I don't understand him. You that understand him should enlighten me.

Lennycool:

And you can keep embracing ignorance. Your God is a psychopath, yet you say I don't understand him. You that understand him should enlighten me.

But you are of the view that no god exists: can something that does not exist be a psychopath?

Eh?

secure:




God was aware of the event but choose not to intervene because of the gift of freewill........

That is what is called freewill.........

you've said it all

Lennycool,

Prove from the Bible that GOD supports slavery, rape, murder and sexism.

DoctorAlien:


But you are of the view that no god exists: can something that does not exist be a psychopath?

Eh?

Yes it can. Take for example voldermort in the harry potter franchise, he is evil and obviously a psychopath but he doesn't exist outside the fictional world. Same as your God, the bible is a just a book and it's God a fictional character. His traits, behaviors and actions make him a psychopath.

Lennycool:

Yes it can. Take for example voldermort in the harry potter franchise, he is evil and obviously a psychopath but he doesn't exist outside the fictional world. Same as your God, the bible is a just a book and it's God a fictional character. His traits, behaviors and actions make him a psychopath.

You've seen voldermort. But you've not seen GOD. And you believe He doesn't exist. How then is He a psychopath?

If GOD does not exist, how then did He kill the people He killed? Do you believe GOD killed anybody? Remember He never existed.

DoctorAlien:
Lennycool,

Prove from the Bible that GOD supports slavery, rape, murder and sexism.

Easily done. Please check this verses
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead(Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
Rape and pillage of the Midianites(Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
Murder Rape and Pillage(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
Female Captives(Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
spoils of War(Judges 5:30 NAB
Sex Slaves(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
God Assists Rape and Plunder(Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Also here is another clear example
David’s Punishment – Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God’s “Forgiveness”(2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: ‘I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives[plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall liewith your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.’
Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan answered David:“The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die.” [The child dies seven days later.]
There you go.

DoctorAlien:


You've seen voldermort. But you've not seen GOD. And you believe He doesn't exist. How then is He a psychopath?

If GOD does not exist, how then did He kill the people He killed? Do you believe GOD killed anybody? Remember He never existed.

God is fictional, most of the stories in the bible are false, only his worshippers kill.

Lennycool:

God is fictional, most of the stories in the bible are false, only his worshippers kill.

Yes or no: did GOD kill anybody?

If the Bible is a fiction book, why do you believe the killings in it? Are the killings not fictional?

Lennycool,

GOD is the Creator of man, and He destroys him when man continues in unrepentant rebellion. That should clarify the slaughter of the canaanites and the heathen nations, of whom GOD had said their cup were full(See. Gen.15:16). It's also funny you tend to ignore the abominations these nations committed such as: murder, child-sacrifice, etc.

It was a common practice in ancient times to take housemaids as concubines. GOD simply gave directions on how such concubines should be treated in Exod. 21:7-11.

Concerning Zech. 14:1-2, GOD promised destruction on Jerusalem by the hands of the heathen because of their sins. GOD would simply remove His protection from Jerusalem, and these heathen(and sometimes atheistic) nations will do what they know best how to do: kill, maim, rape and enslave.

Clear now?

DoctorAlien:
Lennycool,

It was a common practice in ancient times to take housemaids as concubines. GOD simply gave directions on how such concubines should be treated in Exod. 21:7-11.


Clear now?

A whole ur God didn't see anything wrong in taking housemaids as concubines, instead he instructed them on how they should be treated. Lol, he should have also instructed our ignorant forefathers on how twins should be slaugthered. Smh

frank317:


A whole ur God didn't see anything wrong in taking housemaids as concubines, instead he instructed them on how they should be treated. Lol, he should have also instructed our ignorant forefathers on how twins should be slaugthered. Smh

Point out the things wrong with taking housemaids as wives, in consonance with Exod. 21:7-11.

Bear in mind that GOD permitted polygamy then.

Moreover, taking a third or fourth wife is not a crime like killing twins.

DoctorAlien:
Lennycool,

GOD is the Creator of man, and He destroys him when man continues in unrepentant rebellion. That should clarify the slaughter of the canaanites and the heathen nations, of whom GOD had said their cup were full(See. Gen.15:16). It's also funny you tend to ignore the abominations these nations committed such as: murder, child-sacrifice, etc.

It was a common practice in ancient times to take housemaids as concubines. GOD simply gave directions on how such concubines should be treated in Exod. 21:7-11.

Concerning Zech. 14:1-2, GOD promised destruction on Jerusalem by the hands of the heathen because of their sins. GOD would simply remove His protection from Jerusalem, and these heathen(and sometimes atheistic) nations will do what they know best how to do: kill, maim, rape and enslave.

Clear now?

I see you ignored David's punishment, were his wives would be raped and his baby killed at the behest of God the loving father. You also avoided the part were the bible wholeheartedly advocated slavery and genocide and rape. Cherry picking from what you can defend.

DoctorAlien:


Point out the things wrong with taking housemaids as wives, in consonance with Exod. 21:7-11.

Bear in mind that GOD permitted polygamy then.

Moreover, taking a third or fourth wife is not a crime like killing twins.

"And if a man sells his daughter to be a maidservant she shall not go out as the maidservant do", that's from the verse you simply point out as taking housemaids, when someone is sold does that not constitute as slavery.

Lennycool:

I see you ignored David's punishment, were his wives would be raped and his baby killed at the behest of God the loving father. You also avoided the part were the bible wholeheartedly advocated slavery and genocide and rape. Cherry picking from what you can defend.

GOD told David that since he slept with someone's wife, someone will sleep with his wives. This happened when Absalom slept with his father David's concubines. The Bible text does not say that the concubines were raped. Probably Absalom slept with his father's concubines to prove to Israel that even David's wives had left him(2 Sam 16:21-22). Probable also is that the intercourse was consensual, although the text doesn't say so either.

Notice, however, that if Absalom raped the women, David would not have punished them by shutting them up for the rest of his life(2 Sam 20:3). And if the intercourse was consensual, that would've been adultery and the women would have been stoned to death.

Lennycool:

"And if a man sells his daughter to be a maidservant she shall not go out as the maidservant do", that's from the verse you simply point out as taking housemaids, when someone is sold does that not constitute as slavery.

People did "sell" themselves to other people as slaves those days, you get? So when a family for one reason or the other decides with their daughter that she would be "sold" to a man as a servant, she is not allowed to leave as do the male servants. This is because most times, men eventually sleep with their maidservants and even get children out of them. She cannot leave a man she probably has slept with, and then end up as another man's wife. That's sexual infidelity.

It is funny that you closed your eyes to the directives GOD gave in the same text that, however, if the maidservant is mistreated or disdained in anyway, or if her master begins to find unnecessary fault with her, she could leave and be free.

LOL. Atheists.

Lennycool, you still have not answered these questions:

DoctorAlien:

Yes or no: did GOD kill anybody? (Remember, according to you, He never existed).

If the Bible is a fiction book, why do you believe the killings in it? Are the killings not fictional?

DoctorAlien:


But you know as an atheist that there is that bad feeling you have towards GOD, no?

woah . . . It seems you skydive into conclusions.
I don't have any grudge against any "supernatural beings" and in fact, the christian God ranks third on my awesome deities list. Right behind Loki and Lucifer.

So whaaa

Teempakguy:
woah . . . It seems you skydive into conclusions.
I don't have any grudge against any "supernatural beings" and in fact, the christian God ranks third on my awesome deities list. Right behind Loki and Lucifer.

So whaaa

Okay. Happy Sabbath

secure:




God was aware of the event but choose not to intervene because of the gift of freewill........

That is what is called freewill.........

sir i think it will do u alot of good to ignore these wasteful athiests. They have no intention of gainin understanding but to mock

DoctorAlien:
Lennycool, you still have not answered these questions:

To put it plainly, no he did not kill anybody. All tales about him a made up. He is just fiction.