Part One

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There is a research paper by Collier and Hoefler titled "Greed and grievance in civil war". The researchers argue that greed is the major reason for armed conflict/conflict. However, they say, delinquents like IPOB take advantage of the peoples grievances with the government and use it as a motivator and smoke screen to mask their true intentions which is greed.

Using the Brexit for an example, you can see how a group can take advantage of the people’s grievances with the state to achieve totally unconnected goals. The Brits, if they could vote again, would vote to stay in the EU. They voted to leave the EU, however they did not understand what leaving the EU meant or what EU - itself meant for UK's economy and status as a global player.

People in the East have no idea what it means to be a "BIAFRAN" - they never have been. Unfortunately, because of the grievances they have with the government, IPOB finds it easy to merge these grievances and channel it towards the BIAFRA "cause".

How can people mostly masses living in poverty and under poverty know what it means to secede from a nation in these modern times when the global balance is laying on its fringes?

How can they know, that infrastructure, security, and economy are key issues they will be contending with and as such the result would be more poverty, more disease, more crime and utter distress? How much of these masses has IPOB educated on the process of cessation? Do they know that they could be walking into a generation of despair and another of discontent?

When I speak of “grievance with the government” - these grievances are one and the same each region in Nigeria is going through. Poverty, poor health care, insecurity, poor education and lack of opportunities.

People are food hungry not Biafra hungry. The government must genuinely concentrate on raising poverty levels in all regions of the federation and channel its energies on pro-poor policies. Concentrating on poverty and education levels will instantly deprive boko haram, Niger-Deltan militants and IPOB of “this” power over the masses - whom are the true victims in Nigeria's current security and economic dilemma.



¹Collier, Paul, and Anke Hoeffler. "Greed and grievance in civil war." Oxford economic papers 56.4 (2004): 563-595.

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Nice read, Expressing views intellectually outweighs hauling insults because of dissenting views.

This OP is a joke.


So the population you see obedient to the agitation are wholly poverty induced ? Did u start hearing about Uwazuruike recently, if not, then why discussing the issue now as if u just came to know about the issue recently.


Pls save your concern for your tribe and help them upgrade in anyway that will help them live happily.

Nice piece, but is it possible that a statement about IPOB was made in 2004 where as IPOB itself has just been formed recently.

Nice Write up

onespecial:
This OP is a joke.


So the population you see obedient to the agitation are wholly poverty induced ? Did u start hearing about Uwazuruike recently, if not, then why discussing the issue now as if u just came to know about the issue recently.


Pls save your concern for your tribe and help them upgrade in anyway that will help them live happily.

_{My mother is from Anambra State, Njikoka LGA, Abagana to be precise. My grandfather on my maternal side, died an ICHIE !}

It seems your confused:

In summary, the inhabitants of eastern Nigeria have genuine grievances with the government and BIAFRA is not one of them. The people in the east (pro IPOB) like those who join militancy and boko haram are hungry(hunger is the grievance), however IPOB has made them believe BIAFRA is the solution to this hunger, when in fact it is not.

Biafra will inherit the same problems Nigeria has - poverty, education deficits, insecurity and economic slowdowns. These issues don't care if your called BIAFRA or NIGERIA.

If people in the east live above the poverty level, have healthcare and other infrastructure - IPOB or Nnamdi Kanu would barely have any support as people would have less grievances with the government and as such have no reason to "think" cessation would solve this "hunger".

LoveDecay:


_{My mother is from Anambra State, Njikoka LGA, Abagana to be precise. My grandfather on my maternal side, died an ICHIE !}

It seems your confused:

In summary, the inhabitants of eastern Nigeria have genuine grievances with the government and BIAFRA is not one of them. The people in the east (pro IPOB) like those who join militancy and boko haram are hungry(hunger is the grievance), however IPOB has made them believe BIAFRA is the solution to this hunger, when in fact it is not.

Biafra will inherit the same problems Nigeria has - poverty, education deficits, insecurity and economic slowdowns. These issues don't care if your called BIAFRA or NIGERIA.

If people in the east live above the poverty level, have healthcare and other infrastructure - IPOB or Nnamdi Kanu would barely have any support as people would have less grievances with the government and as such have no reason to "think" cessation would solve this "hunger".

To ur dull brain, it is only hunger that induce agitation. How come there are no agitations in many countries that Nigeria is far better than. So all agitations across the globe are because of hunger ? Seems u lack sense.



Biafra didn't start today,. Biafra is a nation instituted in 1967. Go to hell with ur hunger story.



Hunger will first destroy other tribes b4 an Igbo man if it must destroy lives. Biafrans outside Nigeria are equally agitating to have their identity as against the identity forced on them by a white lunatic. That is the simple truth and not ur hunger rubbish.


If it is only hunger that moves black brains from yoruba and hausa, then know it now that Igbos are different. We are not moved by hunger. We seek for ideal state.

onespecial:





To ur dull brain, it is only hunger that induce agitation. How come there are no agitations in many countries that Nigeria is far better than. So all agitations across the globe are because of hunger ? Seems u lack sense.



Biafra didn't start today,. Biafra is a nation instituted in 1967. Go to hell with ur hunger story.



Hunger will first destroy other tribes b4 an Igbo man if it must destroy lives. Biafrans outside Nigeria are equally agitating to have their identity as against the identity forced on them by a white lunatic. That is the simple truth and not ur hunger rubbish.


If it is only hunger that moves black brains from yoruba and hausa, then know it now that Igbos are different. We are not moved by hunger. We seek for ideal state.

What countries in Africa , that Nigeria is better than have not experience armed conflict/conflict at one period or another. Please list them

Op you are not sensible here.
Even if people are hungry, can you identify the root cause of the hunger?
Please think well about Biafra agitation
I can categorically tell you that you are not an ardent listener of radio biafra.
One last question,was it hunger that made ojukwu to start Biafran course.
Please read wide

The OP is a known hausa pro-dullard that claimed to be Igbo in desperation to keep oil flowing to kaduna. Na him go tire.

LoveDecay:


What countries in Africa , that Nigeria is better than have not experience armed conflict/conflict at one period or another. Please list them

This will be my last reply to u as it seems u have nothing to argue with.



Have we not been having armed conflict in Nigeria to the extent of having civil war, why is Nigeria's case without a solution ? Are IPOB presently in armed conflict with you ? How many countries in Africa are in conflict because of secession ?


You should differentiate causes of conflict and its scope in different regions.



Last info, many countries agitated and got their nationhood and are doing fine. Biafra will not be an exception. I don't think there would be the term "secede" if all believe like u that conflicts arise from hunger and poverty.


Bye

Doghari:
The OP is a known hausa pro-dullard that claimed to be Igbo in desperation to keep oil flowing to kaduna. Na him go tire.

I never claimed to be Ibo . My mother is Ibo, I am not. On the case of oil, how many barrels of oil does eastern Nigeria pump. The oil from the eastern region is not the bone of contention here.

LoveDecay:


_{My mother is from Anambra State, Njikoka LGA, Abagana to be precise. My grandfather on my maternal side, died an ICHIE !}

It seems your confused:

In summary, the inhabitants of eastern Nigeria have genuine grievances with the government and BIAFRA is not one of them. The people in the east (pro IPOB) like those who join militancy and boko haram are hungry(hunger is the grievance), however IPOB has made them believe BIAFRA is the solution to this hunger, when in fact it is not.

Biafra will inherit the same problems Nigeria has - poverty, education deficits, insecurity and economic slowdowns. These issues don't care if your called BIAFRA or NIGERIA.

If people in the east live above the poverty level, have healthcare and other infrastructure - IPOB or Nnamdi Kanu would barely have any support as people would have less grievances with the government and as such have no reason to "think" cessation would solve this "hunger".

Ur mother dont give u right to talk to us on our affairs. U are confused. Go and concern urself with the plight of your father people.


U are not one of us. Period!

onespecial:







This will be my last reply to u as it seems u have nothing to argue with.



Have we not been having armed conflict in Nigeria to the extent of having civil war, why is Nigeria's case without a solution ? Are IPOB presently in armed conflict with you ? How many countries in Africa are in conflict because of secession ?


You should differentiate causes of conflict and its scope in different regions.



Last info, many countries agitated and got their nationhood and are doing fine. Biafra will not be an exception. I don't think there would be the term "secede" if all believe like u that conflicts arise from hunger and poverty.


Bye

¹ There was only one civil war in Nigeria.

² IPOB is currently in conflict with the Federal Government. Their is evidence this group (IPOB) planned to escalate to "armed conflict". Nnamdi Kanu's video where he solicited for "guns and bullets" is on YouTube and the world has seen it.

³ Nations agitated for freedom are not doing fine. Only nation that split without any form of animosity are doing well. India and Pakistan, Pakistan is now a terrorist strong hold. Bosnia and Herzegovina & Croatia and Slovenia (where are these two European nations). South Sudan is still burning !

Only nation who divided peacefully are growing. See Sweden and Norway, the UK and Ireland. And these where decades ago, between nation whom already where already wealthy and not struggling to grow wealthy.

⁴ For the causes of conflict each case is different. In Africa, however its poverty and poverty alone. It not ethnic or religious. If countries in Africa have good poverty levels we would have less conflict.

Look at South Africa, it still have conflicts every now and then. Though, it the most developed country in Africa. Conflicts rises from poverty and nothing else. Delinquents like IPOB simple hijack it , for greed

waternogeteneny:



Ur mother dont give u right to talk to us on our affairs. U are confused. Go and concern urself with the plight of your father people.


U are not one of us. Period!

I never claimed to be Ibo . My mother is Ibo, I am not. When did "cessation from Nigeria" become "your" affairs. You are a Nigerian, and as such governed by the laws of this sovereign republic. You can simply think, that "cessation" is an IPOB affair, that the eastern part of Nigeria is an IPOB affair. Does IPOB provide the monthly financial support eastern states receive or did IPOB build the road, hospitals and bridges in the eastern part of Nigeria.

Young man this is not "UMUNNA" meeting !

LoveDecay:


I never claimed to be Ibo . My mother is Ibo, I am not.

Look, i 4 use machete commot ur useless head if i can lay eyes on u. Who the hell do u think ur talking to in that manner.

Check well na ur papa people hungry want to finish in Nigeria. Parasites!

Abi u miss road?

onespecial:





To ur dull brain, it is only hunger that induce agitation. How come there are no agitations in many countries that Nigeria is far better than. So all agitations across the globe are because of hunger ? Seems u lack sense.



Biafra didn't start today,. Biafra is a nation instituted in 1967. Go to hell with ur hunger story.



Hunger will first destroy other tribes b4 an Igbo man if it must destroy lives. Biafrans outside Nigeria are equally agitating to have their identity as against the identity forced on them by a white lunatic. That is the simple truth and not ur hunger rubbish.


If it is only hunger that moves black brains from yoruba and hausa, then know it now that Igbos are different. We are not moved by hunger. We seek for ideal state.

Typical of an IPOB youth. Your first sentence begins with an insult as though you can cow those of us opposed to biafra with it

waternogeteneny:


Look, i 4 use machete commot ur useless head if i can lay eyes on u. Who dey hell do u think ur talking to in that manner.

Check well na ur papa people hungry want to finish in Nigeria. Parasites!

Abi u miss road?

People in the east need food, jobs and opportunities, better infrastructure and improved healthcare.

Biafra cannot give this to them and it never has. The federal government need to work tirelessly on this issue to improve living conditions in Nigeria as related to human security. When to government works hard to improve human security, delinquents like IPOB, boko haram and Niger-Delta militants cannot hijack the peoples legitimate grievances to serve their greed.

LoveDecay:


People in the east need food, jobs and opportunities, better infrastructure and improved healthcare.

Biafra cannot give this to them and it never has. The federal government need to work tirelessly on this issue to improve living conditions in Nigeria as related to human security. When to government works hard to improve human security, delinquents like IPOB, boko haram and Niger-Delta militants cannot hijack the peoples legitimate grievances to serve their greed.

I have gone through your post history and u definately have no igbo connection. Ur a full blooded yoruba.


enjoy masturbating on the word igbo. fool!

waternogeteneny:



I have gone through your post history and u definately have no igbo connection. Ur a full blooded yoruba.


enjoy masturbating on the word igbo. fool!

Lol, nigga scared of the truth

waternogeteneny:



I have gone through your post history and u definately have no igbo connection. Ur a full blooded yoruba.


enjoy masturbating on the word igbo. fool!

How does my connection in Ibo land solve the inherent issues of poverty and lack of infrastructure in the east of Nigeria ?

You read everything on this thread and the only thing your contemplating is "my connection to ibo land".

I am just curious, this is not an attempt to mock or insult you. What level of education have you attained ?

LoveDecay:


I never claimed to be Ibo . My mother is Ibo, I am not. On the case of oil, how many barrels of oil does eastern Nigeria pump. The oil from the eastern region is not the bone of contention here.

You people don't seize to amaze me..
You're not igbo..
You don't care about igbos
You don't live in the east..
You're not married to igbo..

Yet you rushin every thread and tell them au best to live..
What best for them..
What they ought to do..

Are you sure your okay?
What tribe are you..
How is your tribe fairing in this country..
Why don't you first give your people this advise?
Why are you so pained that you rush to biafra threads and even went ahead to create one.

Is your community part of their biafra?
Don't really understand your lots on this matter..
Federal government is not even trying to stop or raise this matter as issue of concern..
Why you and your types are like this.i don't understand..

Am southerner from great IZON..and what ever happens to biafra is none of my business and I don't think is any ijaw man business..
And you can't find our people pulling them back or blackmailing them..
All we try to let them understanding is that there is always a boundary..and they understand..
So what's your pain..
Really want to understand..

ificatchmodeh:


You people don't seize to amaze me..
You're not igbo..
You don't care about igbos
You don't live in the east..
You're not married to igbo..

Yet you rushin every thread and tell them au best to live..
What best for them..
What they ought to do..

Are you sure your okay?
What tribe are you..
How is your tribe fairing in this country..
Why don't you first give your people this advise?
Why are you so pained that you rush to biafra threads and even went ahead to create one.

Is your community part of their biafra?
Don't really understand your lots on this matter..
Federal government is not even trying to stop or raise this matter as issue of concern..
Why you and your types are like this.i don't understand..

Am southerner from great IZON..and what ever happens to biafra is none of my business and I don't think is any ijaw man business..
And you can't find our people pulling them back or blackmailing them..
All we try to let them understanding is that there is always a boundary..and they understand..
So what's your pain..
Really want to understand..

See full post I made here https://www.nairaland.com/3367207/heres-take-ipob#49616106

In summary:

On the case of morals, Biafra as an idea is very much significant in history, however this is for the lives lost and not for that which was never achieved.