Women speaking in tongues and prophesying, women taking charge in churches by way of standing in front of the podium to address the congregation, women coming forward to give testimonies, meaningful contributions, ask questions et al..are not new to everyone reading this. These are against 1 Corinthians 14:34, 35.

1 Corinthians 14:34, 35

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

35 If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.…

I think the verses above are clear enough. What I don't really understand are these..
Why do we see women go the extent of even preaching in churches these days.. Has anything changed? Are there counter and more superior verses in the bible that supports this?


Pls I need meaningful contributions because I may be getting it all wrong. Thanks






Lalasticlala

D verses no dey thier onw Bible, may be just thinking

I think that verse 34 "as the law" says it all

bcus they r also humanbeings and that bible verse is sexist.

Didn't Bible say don't kill and steal..
But some pastors do both...
God has the final say .....

When men sold all the senses God gave them for sex*ual pleasure, what do you expect.

brandonobi:
bcus they r also humanbeings and that bible verse is sexist.

Sexist? But the bible verses cannot be the way we as humanbeings want them. They are the way they are and should be followed by the christian believers.

MBush:
Didn't Bible say don't kill and steal..
But some pastors do both...
God has the final say .....

yea, but not openly.

midolian:
yea, but not openly.

Lol... Most pastors lie openly...
So

midolian:
Sexist? But the bible verses cannot be the way we as humanbeings want them. They are the way they are and should be followed by the christian believers.

i know but the bible also says a lot of other things that people ignore. its only left for God to decide which he wants.

Well, it's not today Christians started flouting the directions of the bible.

I wish them the best while they're at it, they should just stop being sanctimonious and overtly self righteous.

My cousin's wife doesn't speak to me because of this question you are asking op. She is an ordained Preacher and instead of giving me a quote that qualifies her to preach in church she chose to go zip.

I guess we believers in general, only practice those scriptures that are relevant to our way of life, those scriptures that benefit us. This is promoted via the phrase "times have changed"

Watch this space.

midolian:
Sexist? But the bible verses cannot be the way we as humanbeings want them. They are the way they are and should be followed by the christian believers.

The Bible is nothing but a mind control tool


That's why you Christians are so foolish and die like fowls.

Lmao

As we investigate the four gospels, nowhere is Christ critical, demeaning, or negative toward women. In fact, on every occasion He was exactly the opposite. He publicly associated with them and uplifted their social status. This must have made both the Jews and Greeks furious! Was Christ trying to tell us something by his actions? Was he preparing mankind for the liberation of all Christians as stated by Paul in Gal 3:28?

Christ never criticized women for violating cultural, religious, or traditional taboos. Christ refused to follow the century old traditions of man and keep women restrained by the religious bondage of his time. Christ accepted women as individual beings capable of making their own choices and being responsible for their own salvation.

A great example of Jesus' attitude toward women is illustrated in Luke 10:38-42. When Martha rebuked Mary for not helping her, Christ did not remind Mary that her proper role was that of serving men. Instead Christ let it be known that the important thing for Mary was at his feet learning the word of God. Christ's message was clear!

Another example is found in John 12:1-7. Again in the home of Mary and Martha, the passages find "Martha serving." Mary not only stayed in the room with the men while the men were eating but also loosed her hair and washed Jesus' feet with a bottle of expensive perfume. If a Jewish woman let her hair hang down naturally, she was considered uncovered, and if this happened in public, it was grounds for divorce under Jewish law.

Mary violated two of the strictest rabbinical laws, yet Jesus said nothing. Christ even reprimanded those who tried to correct Mary. How would Christ feel about the restrictions placed on women in our worship services today?
Other examples of Christ's open and supporting attitude toward women are found in Luke 11:2728; Matthew 19:3-10; Mark 10:11-12; Matthew 22:23-30; Luke 7:36- 50; John 4: 7-30; Mark 12:38-40; Luke 7:11-17; and so on.

Jesus often used women to illustrate his eternal lessons and truths as found in Luke 21:1-4 and many other scriptures.
Christ, through his actions, stripped away centuries of male domination and religious restrictions, yet today in Christ's Church, the Jewish and Greek traditions of bigotry and male domination still rule!

An excerpt from All God's children by Sharon and Ray Steelman.

Good question. Oya. Over to you "Christians who sit in church and listen to female pastors, deaconesses and female bishops preach.

I'm particularly expecting members of Foursquare Gospel Church to come and tell us how this bible passage squares with the founder of their church being female.

colik:
As we investigate the four gospels, nowhere is Christ critical, demeaning, or negative toward women. In fact, on every occasion He was exactly the opposite. He publicly associated with them and uplifted their social status. This must have made both the Jews and Greeks furious! Was Christ trying to tell us something by his actions? Was he preparing mankind for the liberation of all Christians as stated by Paul in Gal 3:28?

Christ never criticized women for violating cultural, religious, or traditional taboos. Christ refused to follow the century old traditions of man and keep women restrained by the religious bondage of his time. Christ accepted women as individual beings capable of making their own choices and being responsible for their own salvation.

A great example of Jesus' attitude toward women is illustrated in Luke 10:38-42. When Martha rebuked Mary for not helping her, Christ did not remind Mary that her proper role was that of serving men. Instead Christ let it be known that the important thing for Mary was at his feet learning the word of God. Christ's message was clear!

Another example is found in John 12:1-7. Again in the home of Mary and Martha, the passages find "Martha serving." Mary not only stayed in the room with the men while the men were eating but also loosed her hair and washed Jesus' feet with a bottle of expensive perfume. If a Jewish woman let her hair hang down naturally, she was considered uncovered, and if this happened in public, it was grounds for divorce under Jewish law.

Mary violated two of the strictest rabbinical laws, yet Jesus said nothing. Christ even reprimanded those who tried to correct Mary. How would Christ feel about the restrictions placed on women in our worship services today?

Other examples of Christ's open and supporting attitude toward women are found in Luke 11:2728; Matthew 19:3-10; Mark 10:11-12; Matthew 22:23-30; Luke 7:36- 50; John 4: 7-30; Mark 12:38-40; Luke 7:11-17; and so on.

Jesus often used women to illustrate his eternal lessons and truths as found in Luke 21:1-4 and many other scriptures.
Christ, through his actions, stripped away centuries of male domination and religious restrictions, yet today in Christ's Church, the Jewish and Greek traditions of bigotry and male domination still rule!

An excerpt from All God's children by Sharon and Ray Steelman.

what are the restrictions placed on women in our worship centres today? Are you also saying Jesus(before death) doesn't know about the Corinthians verses?

colik:
As we investigate the four gospels, nowhere is Christ critical, demeaning, or negative toward women. In fact, on every occasion He was exactly the opposite. He publicly associated with them and uplifted their social status. This must have made both the Jews and Greeks furious! Was Christ trying to tell us something by his actions? Was he preparing mankind for the liberation of all Christians as stated by Paul in Gal 3:28?

Christ never criticized women for violating cultural, religious, or traditional taboos. Christ refused to follow the century old traditions of man and keep women restrained by the religious bondage of his time. Christ accepted women as individual beings capable of making their own choices and being responsible for their own salvation.

A great example of Jesus' attitude toward women is illustrated in Luke 10:38-42. When Martha rebuked Mary for not helping her, Christ did not remind Mary that her proper role was that of serving men. Instead Christ let it be known that the important thing for Mary was at his feet learning the word of God. Christ's message was clear!

Another example is found in John 12:1-7. Again in the home of Mary and Martha, the passages find "Martha serving." Mary not only stayed in the room with the men while the men were eating but also loosed her hair and washed Jesus' feet with a bottle of expensive perfume. If a Jewish woman let her hair hang down naturally, she was considered uncovered, and if this happened in public, it was grounds for divorce under Jewish law.

Mary violated two of the strictest rabbinical laws, yet Jesus said nothing. Christ even reprimanded those who tried to correct Mary. How would Christ feel about the restrictions placed on women in our worship services today?
Other examples of Christ's open and supporting attitude toward women are found in Luke 11:2728; Matthew 19:3-10; Mark 10:11-12; Matthew 22:23-30; Luke 7:36- 50; John 4: 7-30; Mark 12:38-40; Luke 7:11-17; and so on.

Jesus often used women to illustrate his eternal lessons and truths as found in Luke 21:1-4 and many other scriptures.
Christ, through his actions, stripped away centuries of male domination and religious restrictions, yet today in Christ's Church, the Jewish and Greek traditions of bigotry and male domination still rule!

An excerpt from All God's children by Sharon and Ray Steelman.

Oga you haven't answered the question. Unless you're saying that part of the bible is wrong.

I'd be surprised if people don't see a link between all these pastor-wannabe females and the feminist movement in the world.

midolian:
what are the restrictions placed on women in our worship centres today? Are you also saying Jesus(before death) doesn't know about the Corinthians verses?

If you agree with the scripture that says women shouldn't speak in Church,the question you should ask is:"why does God choose to use women?"
Who was speaking in those verses anyway?
Christ or Paul?

colik:


If you agree with the scripture that says women shouldn't speak in Church,the question you should ask is:"why does God choose to use women?"
Who was speaking in those verses anyway?
Christ or Paul?

Lol. So Paul was wrong. That means the Bible is wrong and not inspired as you claim.

Ioannes:


Oga you haven't answered the question. Unless you're saying that part of the bible is wrong.

Of course I'm not saying that.
Every Bible scholar knows that all verses in the scripture shouldn't be taken at face value.
To fully understand it we must dig deeper.
I don't think any man can give you a perfect answer.
Why don't you ask the author Himself?
The greatest teacher...

colik:


If you agree with the scripture that says women shouldn't speak in Church,the question you should ask is:"why does God choose to use women?"
Who was speaking in those verses anyway?
Christ or Paul?

My choice to agree with the scripture or not does not change the status of its existence. Its only if you are telling me that some scriptures are wrong while some are right.

Ioannes:


Lol. So Paul was wrong. That means the Bible is wrong and not inspired as you claim.

Who says Paul was wrong?
You can choose to believe what you want to.
In the end,none of this matters.
God himself knows what's right and what's wrong.

Good day.

colik:


Of course I'm not saying that.
Every Bible scholar knows that all verses in the scripture shouldn't be taken at face value.
To fully understand it we must dig deeper.
I don't think any man can give you a perfect answer.
Why don't you ask the author Himself?
The greatest teacher...

I've asked him and he says he meant what he wrote and wrote what he meant.

Its not in my place to question why Jesus had 12 disciples and not a single female.

What YOU should ask is, why are your churches flouting the words of the Bible which y'all claim to read so much unless you only read portions that make you feel good alone.

colik:


Who says Paul was wrong?
You can choose to believe what you want to.
In the end,none of this matters.
God himself knows what's right and what's wrong.

Good day.

Running away?

See as other "Christians" avoid this thread like a plague.

Ioannes:


I've asked him and he says he meant what he wrote and wrote what he meant.

Its not in my place to question why Jesus had 12 disciples and not a single female.

What YOU should ask is, why are your churches flouting the words of the Bible which y'all claim to read so much unless you only read portions that make you feel good alone.

Lol....I think you should study the time of the early Church more.
If you're looking for a scapegoat then you're wasting your time.
I'm off to Church.
Good day

colik:


Lol....I think you should study the time of the early Church more.
If you're looking for a scapegoat then you're wasting your time.
I'm off to Church.
Good day

Have a nice day in church. And do pray for me OK?

Ioannes:

Running away?
See as other "Christians" avoid this thread like a plague.

Just as I thought.....

Ioannes:

Have a nice day in church. And do pray for me OK?

I sure will

colik:
As we investigate the four gospels, nowhere is Christ critical, demeaning, or negative toward women. In fact, on every occasion He was exactly the opposite. He publicly associated with them and uplifted their social status. This must have made both the Jews and Greeks furious! Was Christ trying to tell us something by his actions? Was he preparing mankind for the liberation of all Christians as stated by Paul in Gal 3:28?

Christ never criticized women for violating cultural, religious, or traditional taboos. Christ refused to follow the century old traditions of man and keep women restrained by the religious bondage of his time. Christ accepted women as individual beings capable of making their own choices and being responsible for their own salvation.

A great example of Jesus' attitude toward women is illustrated in Luke 10:38-42. When Martha rebuked Mary for not helping her, Christ did not remind Mary that her proper role was that of serving men. Instead Christ let it be known that the important thing for Mary was at his feet learning the word of God. Christ's message was clear!

Another example is found in John 12:1-7. Again in the home of Mary and Martha, the passages find "Martha serving." Mary not only stayed in the room with the men while the men were eating but also loosed her hair and washed Jesus' feet with a bottle of expensive perfume. If a Jewish woman let her hair hang down naturally, she was considered uncovered, and if this happened in public, it was grounds for divorce under Jewish law.

Mary violated two of the strictest rabbinical laws, yet Jesus said nothing. Christ even reprimanded those who tried to correct Mary. How would Christ feel about the restrictions placed on women in our worship services today?
Other examples of Christ's open and supporting attitude toward women are found in Luke 11:2728; Matthew 19:3-10; Mark 10:11-12; Matthew 22:23-30; Luke 7:36- 50; John 4: 7-30; Mark 12:38-40; Luke 7:11-17; and so on.

Jesus often used women to illustrate his eternal lessons and truths as found in Luke 21:1-4 and many other scriptures.
Christ, through his actions, stripped away centuries of male domination and religious restrictions, yet today in Christ's Church, the Jewish and Greek traditions of bigotry and male domination still rule!

An excerpt from All God's children by Sharon and Ray Steelman.

bros, you have not said anything.

midolian:
Women speaking in tongues and prophesying, women taking charge in churches by way of standing in front of the podium to address the congregation, women coming forward to give testimonies, meaningful contributions, ask questions et al..are not new to everyone reading this. These are against 1 Corinthians 14:34, 35.

1 Corinthians 14:34, 35

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

35 If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.…

I think the verses above are clear enough. What I don't really understand are these..
Why do we see women go the extent of even preaching in churches these days.. Has anything changed? Are there counter and more superior verses in the bible that supports this?


Pls I need meaningful contributions because I may be getting it all wrong. Thanks






Lalasticlala

You are not getting it all wrong. They are getting it all wrong