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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 9:20am On Oct 01, 2016
analice107:


Wait, you mean there's an end to "Forever and everlasting?"

Wonderful..., You understanding of these things sha.

You inferred about a Scripture where God talked about living people and existing nations here. What we are dealing with here is after death and resurrection. When we cross over to the other side.

Guy, time exists only on this plain. day and night changes seasons on this plain, but when we cross over to the other side, we won't have need for the Constatation which causes the changes in seasons and times. Time stops.

Eternity, forever, everlasting doesn't have time to count how long its been.

Jesus says the fire that burns in that hell doesn't go off even for a minute. There will be no way to know how long you been burning. A new body (Imperishable) other than this perishable body shall be given to you, so you'll feel the pain, but wont get consumed.


Remember the fire God showed to Moses in the Wilderness? It was burning but wasn't consuming what it was on, that's how it will

Now is the acceptable time, now is the day of salvation, if you hear his voice harden not your heart.



where in your bible is the bold sef ?





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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by oaroloye(m): 10:22am On Oct 01, 2016
SHALOM!

[quote author=Berlynn post=49796741] Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness?

DUDE! Do you even [i]LITERACY?

[color=#ffffff]. LUKE 16:19-31.

19. There was a certain rich man,
which was clothed in purple and fine linen,
and fared sumptuously every day:
20. And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus,
which was laid at his gate,
full of sores,
21. And desiring to be fed with the crumbs
which fell from the rich man's table:
moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22. "And it came to pass,
that the beggar died,
and was carried by the Angels into Abraham's Bosom:
the rich man also died,
and was buried;
23. "And in Hell he lift up his eyes,
being in Torments,
and seeth Abraham afar off,
and Lazarus in his bosom.
24. "And he cried and said,

'FATHER ABRAHAM, HAVE MERCY ON ME,
AND SEND LAZARUS,
THAT HE MAY DIP
THE TIP OF HIS FINGER IN WATER,
AND COOL MY TONGUE;
FOR I AM TORMENTED
IN THIS FLAME.'

25. "But Abraham said,

'SON, REMEMBER THAT
THOU IN THY LIFETIME
RECEIVEDST THY GOOD THINGS,
AND LIKEWISE LAZARUS EVIL THINGS:
BUT NOW HE IS COMFORTED,
AND THOU ART TORMENTED.
26 'AND BESIDE ALL THIS,
BETWEEN US AND YOU
THERE IS A GREAT GULF FIXED:
SO THAT THEY WHICH WOULD PASS
FROM HENCE TO YOU CANNOT;
NEITHER CAN THEY PASS TO US,
THAT WOULD COME FROM THENCE.'

27. “Then he said,

'I PRAY THEE THEREFORE, FATHER,
THAT THOU WOULDEST SEND HIM
TO MY FATHER'S HOUSE:
28. 'FOR I HAVE FIVE BRETHREN;
THAT HE MAY TESTIFY UNTO THEM,
LEST THEY ALSO COME
INTO THIS PLACE OF TORMENT.'

29. “Abraham saith unto him,

'THEY HAVE MOSES AND THE PROPHETS;
LET THEM HEAR THEM.'

30. And he said,

'NAY, FATHER ABRAHAM:
BUT IF ONE WENT UNTO THEM
FROM THE DEAD,
THEY WILL REPENT.'

31. And he said unto him,

'IF THEY HEAR NOT
MOSES AND THE PROPHETS,
NEITHER WILL THEY BE PERSUADED,
THOUGH ONE ROSE FROM THE DEAD.' "

Believe it or not, I did read the Bible, and I don't recall it actually explicitly stating "Once you are in Hell, you no longer have any chance for forgiveness, for Redemption."

IF YOU READ THE BIBLE, THEN YOU ARE DELIBERATELY LYING, TO PLAY ON OUR IGNORANCE.

YAHSHUA gave a SPECIFIC CASE HISTORY that he knew of.

It is explicitly stated that those who failed to utilize their opportunity for Forgiveness while ALIVE get no power to do anything when DEAD.

The Rich man could not send himself back to Earth to warn his five brethren- even though he wanted to go.

He could not even send himself from HELL to ABRAHAM'S BOSOM, nor even DRAW a DROP of WATER to himself.

That doesn't seem too Christian

. JOHN 3:14-21.

14. "And as Moses lifted up
the Serpent in the wilderness,
even so must
the Son of man be lifted up:
15. "That whosoever believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Eternal Life.
16. "For God so loved the World,
that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Everlasting Life.
17. "For God sent not
His Son into the World
to condemn the World;
but that the World
through him might be Saved.
18. "He that believeth on him
is not condemned:
but he that believeth not
is condemned already,
because he hath not believed
in the Name of the only begotten Son of God.
19. "And this is The Condemnation,

'THAT LIGHT IS COME
INTO THE WORLD,
AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS
RATHER THAN LIGHT,
BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS
WERE EVIL.'

20. "For every one that doeth Evil
hateth the Light,
neither cometh to The Light,
lest his deeds should be reproved.
21. "But he that doeth Truth cometh to The Light,
that his deeds may be made manifest,
that they are wrought in God."



lets assume for a moment there's a Hell and some people are down there praying to Jesus, begging for forgiveness, begging to be forgiven for not believing in the twisted corrupt Churches while they were on earth, and will Jesus just ignores them?

YAHSHUA NEVER REQUIRED ANYONE TO BELIEVE IN A CHURCH, BUT IN HIS TEACHINGS.

The Jesus I imagine wouldn't ignore them, not even if they were in Hell, the Jesus I know wouldn't be that petty. He doesn't care if they screwed up & they're in Hell....He would forgive them and go get them to heaven

Laslasticlala what do you think? [/color][/i]

THIS IS WHY YOU ARE HEADED FOR DAMNATION.

How dare you call GOD "PETTY!"

Everything YAHSHUA believes, says, or does is by Order of GOD HIS FATHER.

. JOHN 12:42-50.

42. Nevertheless among the Chief Rulers also
many believed on him;
but because of the Pharisees
they did not confess him,
lest they should be put out of the Synagogue:
43. For they loved the Praise of Men
more than The Praise of God.
44. Jesus cried and said,
He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,
but on Him that sent me.
45. And he that seeth me
seeth Him that sent me.
46. I am come a Light into the World,
that whosoever believeth on me
should not abide in Darkness.
47. And if any man hear my Words,
and believe not,
I judge him not:
for I came not to Judge the World,
but to save the World.
48. He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my Words,
hath One that Judgeth him:
The Word that I have spoken,
the Same shall Judge him in The Last Day.
49. For I have not spoken of myself;
but the Father which sent me,
He gave me a Commandment,
what I should say, and what I should speak.
50. And I know that
His Commandment is Life Everlasting:
whatsoever I speak therefore,
even as the Father said unto me,
so I speak."

WHEN YOU JUDGE YAHSHUA, YOU JUDGE GOD.

What is wrong with you, that you do not know that?

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 10:35am On Oct 01, 2016
There's no such thing as heaven or hell undecided....if you think it exist please show me solid prove, mind you the bible is just a book written by flawed creatures(man) it's no proof undecided
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by oaroloye(m): 10:57am On Oct 01, 2016
SHALOM!

Berlynn:
Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness?

DUDE! Do you even LITERACY?

. LUKE 16:19-31.

19. There was a certain rich man,
which was clothed in purple and fine linen,
and fared sumptuously every day:
20. And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus,
which was laid at his gate,
full of sores,
21. And desiring to be fed with the crumbs
which fell from the rich man's table:
moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22. "And it came to pass,
that the beggar died,
and was carried by the Angels into Abraham's Bosom:
the rich man also died,
and was buried;
23. "And in Hell he lift up his eyes,
being in Torments,
and seeth Abraham afar off,
and Lazarus in his bosom.
24. "And he cried and said,

'FATHER ABRAHAM, HAVE MERCY ON ME,
AND SEND LAZARUS,
THAT HE MAY DIP
THE TIP OF HIS FINGER IN WATER,
AND COOL MY TONGUE;
FOR I AM TORMENTED
IN THIS FLAME.'

25. "But Abraham said,

'SON, REMEMBER THAT
THOU IN THY LIFETIME
RECEIVEDST THY GOOD THINGS,
AND LIKEWISE LAZARUS EVIL THINGS:
BUT NOW HE IS COMFORTED,
AND THOU ART TORMENTED.
26 'AND BESIDE ALL THIS,
BETWEEN US AND YOU
THERE IS A GREAT GULF FIXED:
SO THAT THEY WHICH WOULD PASS
FROM HENCE TO YOU CANNOT;
NEITHER CAN THEY PASS TO US,
THAT WOULD COME FROM THENCE.'

27. “Then he said,

'I PRAY THEE THEREFORE, FATHER,
THAT THOU WOULDEST SEND HIM
TO MY FATHER'S HOUSE:
28. 'FOR I HAVE FIVE BRETHREN;
THAT HE MAY TESTIFY UNTO THEM,
LEST THEY ALSO COME
INTO THIS PLACE OF TORMENT.'

29. “Abraham saith unto him,

'THEY HAVE MOSES AND THE PROPHETS;
LET THEM HEAR THEM.'

30. And he said,

'NAY, FATHER ABRAHAM:
BUT IF ONE WENT UNTO THEM
FROM THE DEAD,
THEY WILL REPENT.'

31. And he said unto him,

'IF THEY HEAR NOT
MOSES AND THE PROPHETS,
NEITHER WILL THEY BE PERSUADED,
THOUGH ONE ROSE FROM THE DEAD.' "

Believe it or not, I did read the Bible, and I don't recall it actually explicitly stating "Once you are in Hell, you no longer have any chance for forgiveness, for Redemption."

IF YOU READ THE BIBLE, THEN YOU ARE DELIBERATELY LYING, TO PLAY ON OUR IGNORANCE.

YAHSHUA gave a SPECIFIC CASE HISTORY that he knew of.

It is explicitly stated that those who failed to utilize their opportunity for Forgiveness while ALIVE get no power to do anything when DEAD.

The Rich man could not send himself back to Earth to warn his five brethren- even though he wanted to go.

He could not even send himself from HELL to ABRAHAM'S BOSOM, nor even DRAW a DROP of WATER to himself.

That doesn't seem too Christian

. JOHN 3:14-21.

14. "And as Moses lifted up
the Serpent in the wilderness,
even so must
the Son of man be lifted up:
15. "That whosoever believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Eternal Life.
16. "For God so loved the World,
that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Everlasting Life.
17. "For God sent not
His Son into the World
to condemn the World;
but that the World
through him might be Saved.
18. "He that believeth on him
is not condemned:
but he that believeth not
is condemned already,
because he hath not believed
in the Name of the only begotten Son of God.
19. "And this is The Condemnation,

'THAT LIGHT IS COME
INTO THE WORLD,
AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS
RATHER THAN LIGHT,
BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS
WERE EVIL.'

20. "For every one that doeth Evil
hateth the Light,
neither cometh to The Light,
lest his deeds should be reproved.
21. "But he that doeth Truth cometh to The Light,
that his deeds may be made manifest,
that they are wrought in God."

THIS IS THE GOSPEL YAHSHUA PREACHED- WHOM YOU DECEIVERS CALL "CHRIST."

If you don't come to THE LIGHT, it is because YOU ARE EVIL.

. MATTHEW 25:31-46.

31. "When the Son of Man shall come in his Glory,
and all the Holy Angels with him,
then shall he sit upon the Throne of his Glory:
32. "And before him shall be gathered all Nations:
and he shall separate them one from another,
as a shepherd divideth his Sheep from the Goats:
33. "And he shall set the Sheep on his right hand,
but the Goats on the left.
34. "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand,

'COME, YE BLESSED OF MY FATHER,
INHERIT THE KINGDOM PREPARED FOR YOU
FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD:
35. 'FOR I WAS AN HUNGRED,
AND YE GAVE ME MEAT:
I WAS THIRSTY,
AND YE GAVE ME DRINK:
I WAS A STRANGER,
AND YE TOOK ME IN:
36. 'NAKED,
AND YE CLOTHED ME:
I WAS SICK,
AND YE VISITED ME:
I WAS IN PRISON,
AND YE CAME UNTO ME.'

37. "Then shall the Righteous answer him, saying,

'LORD, WHEN SAW WE THEE AN HUNGRED,
AND FED THEE?
OR THIRSTY,
AND GAVE THEE DRINK?
38. 'WHEN SAW WE THEE A STRANGER,
AND TOOK THEE IN?
OR NAKED,
AND CLOTHED THEE?
39. 'OR WHEN SAW WE THEE SICK,
OR IN PRISON,
AND CAME UNTO THEE?'

40. "And the King shall answer and say unto them,

'VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU,

"INASMUCH AS YE HAVE DONE IT
UNTO ONE OF THE LEAST
OF THESE MY BRETHREN,
YE HAVE DONE IT UNTO ME." '

41. "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand,

'DEPART FROM ME,
YE CURSED,
INTO EVERLASTING FIRE,
PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS:
42. 'FOR I WAS AN HUNGRED,
AND YE GAVE ME NO MEAT:
I WAS THIRSTY,
AND YE GAVE ME NO DRINK:
43. 'I WAS A STRANGER,
AND YE TOOK ME NOT IN:
NAKED,
AND YE CLOTHED ME NOT:
SICK,
AND IN PRISON,
AND YE VISITED ME NOT.'

44. "Then shall they also answer him, saying,

'LORD, WHEN SAW WE THEE AN HUNGRED,
OR ATHIRST,
OR A STRANGER,
OR NAKED,
OR SICK,
OR IN PRISON,
AND DID NOT MINISTER UNTO THEE?'

45. "Then shall he answer them, saying,

'VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU,

"INASMUCH AS YE DID IT NOT
TO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE,
YE DID IT NOT TO ME." '

46. "And these shall go away
into Everlasting Punishment:
but the Righteous into Life Eternal."

YAHSUHA SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT HE IS THE ONE WHO WOULD SEND FAILED CHRISTIANS INTO HELL.

lets assume for a moment there's a Hell and some people are down there praying to Jesus, begging for forgiveness, begging to be forgiven for not believing in the twisted corrupt Churches while they were on earth, and will Jesus just ignores them?

. MATTHEW 12:16-20.

16. “Behold, I send you forth as Sheep
in the midst of Wolves:
be ye therefore Wise as Serpents,
and harmless as Doves.
17. "But Beware of Men:
for they will deliver you up to the Councils,
and they will scourge you in their Synagogues;
18. "And ye shall be brought
before Governors and Kings for my sake,
for a Testimony against them and the Gentiles.
19. But when they deliver you up,
take no thought how or what ye shall speak:
for it shall be given you
in that same hour what ye shall speak.
20. "For it is not ye that speak,
but The Spirit of your Father
Which speaketh in you."

YAHSHUA HAS "DUSTED OFF THE DUST OF HIS FEET AGAINST THOSE IN HELL.

They rejected him in life, therefore they pay the Consequences during the AfterLife.

Nor can they say that they were unaware of these Consequences.

. MATTHEW 12:41-45.

41. "The men of Nineveh shall rise
in Judgment with this Generation, and shall condemn it:
because they repented at the preaching of Jonas;
and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The queen of the South shall rise up
in the Judgment with this Generation,
and shall condemn it:
for she came from the uttermost parts of the Earth
to hear the Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places, seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he, and taketh with himself
seven other spirits more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also unto this Wicked Generation."

THOSE WHO REFUSE TO REPENT AT YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS, AS THE NINEVITES DID, FACE THE CONSEQUENCES.

THOSE WHO FAILED TO SEEK OUT THE TRUTH, AS THE QUEEN OF SHEBA DID, FACE THE CONSEQUENCES.

. ISAIAH 55:6-11.

6. Seek ye The LORD while He may be found,
call ye upon Him while he is near:
7. Let the Wicked forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous man his Thoughts:
and let him return unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy upon him;
and to our God,
for He will abundantly Pardon.

8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS ARE NOT YOUR THOUGHTS,
NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS MY WAYS," SAITH THE LORD.
9. "FOR AS THE HEAVENS ARE HIGHER THAN THE EARTH,
SO ARE MY WAYS HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS,
AND MY THOUGHTS THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.
10. "FOR AS THE RAIN COMETH DOWN,
AND THE SNOW FROM HEAVEN,
AND RETURNETH NOT THITHER,
BUT WATERETH THE EARTH,
AND MAKETH IT BRING FORTH AND BUD,
THAT IT MAY GIVE SEED TO THE SOWER,
AND BREAD TO THE EATER:
11. "SO SHALL MY WORD BE
THAT GOETH FORTH OUT OF MY MOUTH:
IT SHALL NOT RETURN UNTO ME VOID,
BUT IT SHALL ACCOMPLISH
THAT WHICH I PLEASE,
AND IT SHALL PROSPER
IN THE THING WHERETO I SENT IT."

Those who fail to seek out The Creator are deemed worthless to Him, and are discarded as garbage is discarded.

. DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16.

13. Thou shalt not have in thy bag
divers weights, a great and a small.
14. Thou shalt not have in thine house
divers measures, a great and a small.
15. But thou shalt have a perfect and just weight,
a perfect and just measure shalt thou have:
that thy days may be lengthened
in the Land which The LORD thy God giveth thee.
16. For all that do such things,
and all that do unrighteously,
are an abomination unto The LORD thy God.

YAHSHUA NEVER REQUIRED ANYONE TO BELIEVE IN A CHURCH, BUT IN HIS TEACHINGS.

The Jesus I imagine wouldn't ignore them, not even if they were in Hell, the Jesus I know wouldn't be that petty. He doesn't care if they screwed up & they're in Hell....He would forgive them and go get them to heaven

Laslasticlala what do you think? [/color][/i]

THIS IS WHY YOU ARE HEADED FOR DAMNATION.

How dare you call GOD "PETTY!"

Everything YAHSHUA believes, says, or does is by Order of GOD HIS FATHER.

. JOHN 12:42-50.

42. Nevertheless among the Chief Rulers also
many believed on him;
but because of the Pharisees
they did not confess him,
lest they should be put out of the Synagogue:
43. For they loved the Praise of Men
more than The Praise of God.
44. Jesus cried and said,
He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,
but on Him that sent me.
45. And he that seeth me
seeth Him that sent me.
46. I am come a Light into the World,
that whosoever believeth on me
should not abide in Darkness.
47. And if any man hear my Words,
and believe not,
I judge him not:
for I came not to Judge the World,
but to save the World.
48. He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my Words,
hath One that Judgeth him:
The Word that I have spoken,
the Same shall Judge him in The Last Day.
49. For I have not spoken of myself;
but the Father which sent me,
He gave me a Commandment,
what I should say, and what I should speak.
50. And I know that
His Commandment is Life Everlasting:
whatsoever I speak therefore,
even as the Father said unto me,
so I speak."

WHEN YOU JUDGE YAHSHUA, YOU JUDGE GOD.

What is wrong with you, that you do not know that?

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A CREATURE THAT DWELLS IN DARKNESS BENEFIT FROM BEING BROUGHT OUT INTO THE LIGHT, AND MADE TO LIVE THERE?

. MATTHEW 9:16-17.

16. "No man putteth a piece of new cloth
unto an old garment,
for that which is put in to fill it up
taketh from the garment,
and the rent is made worse.
17. "Neither do men put new wine into old bottles:
else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out,
and the bottles perish:
but they put new wine into new bottles,
and both are preserved."

IF SOULS IN HELL WERE BROUGHT INTO HEAVEN, THEY WOULD BE TORN APART AND EXPLODED BY THE FORCES THAT OPERATE THERE.

Only those which have the KNOWLEDGE, WISDOM, AND UNDERSTANDING to Operate in Heaven can GO there.

HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST THAT GOD SENDS PEOPLE TO HELL ARBITRARILY!

He KNOWS what HE is DOING- His DUMBEST is WISER than the WISEST Human can come up with without Him.

Anybody in Hell deserves to BE there.

. 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9 "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout the whole Earth,
to shew Himself strong in the behalf of them
whose heart is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars."

THE PREREQUISITE FOR GOD SHEWING HIMSELF STRONG TO YOU, IS THAT YOUR HEART MUST BE PERFECT BEFORE HIM.

Do you think that going to HELL would make your HEART perfect before GOD?

God CANNOT HEAR the Prayers of those in HELL, because they do not have enough LIFE ENERGY to reach Him.

There are eight levels of LIFE ENERGY.

The TOP SEVEN are of GOD and the SEVEN HEAVENS.

The EIGHTH is of the EARTH.

HELL and ABRAHAM'S BOSOM are of the EARTH-LEVEL Beings that SURVIVE DEATH.

Hell uses the SPIRIT CONTAINMENT PROPERTIES of FIRE.

Abraham's Bosom uses the Spirit Containment Properties of WATER.

MOST SOULS ARE DESTROYED DURING THE PROCEDURE TO EXTRACT THEIR MEMORIES AT DEATH, AND DO NOT SURVIVE TO THE AFTERLIFE.

Any Evildoer who fears Hell has the option of BEFRIENDING A HOLY MAN, who could EXTRACT them from HELL, and RESURRECT them on Earth, should they DIE- and even PREVENT THEM FROM DYING.

This does not happen, because they prefer the company of the Devils whom they serve- with bothering to investigate their nature.

Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Pidggin(f): 11:09am On Oct 01, 2016
Peacefullove:


but in the story you are talking about the richman isn't in hellfire now . he was in Hades . a place of inactivity according to your bible in Eccl 9 verse 10 . and the same place Jesus go , don't tell me Jesus is a sinner too grin grin

according to this story , the richman has some knowledge like his family , brothers e.t.c but Ecc 9:10 says there is no knowledge in Hades . kindly explain this bible contradiction ?


Hades is hell and the bible says the rich man was in great pain which means he was suffering. The scripture you quoted was from the old testament written by a philosopher several years before Christ was born. Many believe the writer was a student of Solomon who may have lacked some understanding on the ways of God.

However, ecclesiastes shows a clear understanding of the ways of man and advocates hard work, trust in God and enjoyment of God's gift which makes it worthy of being included in the Bible.

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by oaroloye(m): 11:20am On Oct 01, 2016
SHALOM!

ItsQuinn:
There's no such thing as heaven or hell undecided....if you think it exist please show me solid prove, mind you the bible is just a book written by flawed creatures(man) it's no proof undecided

I AM A BORN AGAIN, FULL-GOSPEL, PENTECOSTAL CHRISTIAN OF 35 YEARS' STANDING. I AM NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY ORGANIZED CHRISTIAN CHURCH, AS OF 1985. In addition to what The Bible Teaches, I use compatible Teachings of Advanced Men whom God has used as a WITNESS to CONDEMN ORGANIZED CHRISTIANITY, which is designed to DESTROY CHRISTIANS.

Therefore, I know what I am talking about from KNOWLEDGE.

You speak from nothing but ignorance.

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

"JUDGE not, that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother,

'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'

and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
lest they trample them under their feet,
and turn again and rend you."

As of last week, I would have written out extensive proofs to help you and convince you- but after my banning for giving a forthright answer to the SAM HARRIS Blasphemy, I have decided that I will no longer disobey the Lord, and will stop casting my pearls before you swine.

If you want to know about the FOUR AFTERLIFE Fates- DESTRUCTION, HELL, PARADISE, and HEAVEN, you can go to my BLOG, and prove your worthiness, if you are not a dog, nor a pig.

[See my Blog: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE?]

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by branhampaul: 12:23pm On Oct 01, 2016
ItsQuinn:
There's no such thing as heaven or hell undecided....if you think it exist please show me solid prove, mind you the bible is just a book written by flawed creatures(man) it's no proof undecided
Keep Deceiving Yourself.. But You Can't Dodge Death..
Have'nt You Heard The Bible Waz Written Under The Inspiration Of God.. Check Timothy..
Every Word In The Bible Was Inspired By GOD..

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 12:27pm On Oct 01, 2016
branhampaul:
Keep Deceiving Yourself.. But You Can't Dodge Death..
Have'nt You Heard The Bible Waz Written Under The Inspiration Of God.. Check Timothy..
Every Word In The Bible Was Inspired By GOD..
True! I cant escape death, I'm not afraid of death, I embrace death tongue.....Inspiration of God(man's imagination) undecided
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by branhampaul: 12:35pm On Oct 01, 2016
ItsQuinn:
True! I cant escape death, I'm not afraid of death, I embrace death tongue.....Inspiration of God(man's imagination) undecided
Forget.. The State You Are Only God Can Save YOU..

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 12:57pm On Oct 01, 2016
analice107:


Keep quiet and move along. You are dumb.
Oh! I-I- gosh. I'm so sorry his royal intelligence for opening my filthy mouth to speak without seeking your permission. It will not happen again, I assure you.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by pr0blem: 1:22pm On Oct 01, 2016
LOOOL. Anytime I read oaroloye's input on religious posts, I just chuckle. LOOOL

The audacity is quite ridiculous sir. I'm not sorry for putting it out to you. The revelation(s)/understanding of scripture is not exclusive to you. You really need to take doses of chill pills. Even Paul said we know in parts, and our visions are as like a smoky screen. You say you speak with knowledge, what exactly do you even know? really?

You have no understanding of Love, and you think your knowledge is on feet? You better look down and check again, Mr. Knowledge. Just come here to drop monotonous long posts

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by oaroloye(m): 1:54pm On Oct 01, 2016
SHALOM!

Aaronsrod:
There is no forgiveness.

Of course there is forgiveness- just not for certain people, who have committed certain Sins.

. MATTHEW 12:30-39.
30. "He that is not with me
is against me;
and he that gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I say unto you,

'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN.'

32. "And whosoever
speaketh a word
against the Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against The Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known by his fruit.
34. "O generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being evil,
speak good things?
For out of the abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A good man out of the good treasure of the heart
bringeth forth good things:
and an Evil Man out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth evil things.
36. "But I say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'

[color=#990000]37. "For by thy words thou shalt be justified,
and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."
38. Then certain of the scribes
and of the Pharisees answered, saying,
"Master, we would see a Sign from thee."
39. But he answered and said unto them,
"An Evil and Adulterous Generation
seeketh after a Sign;
and there shall no Sign be given to it,
but the sign of the Prophet Jonas:"

JONAH WAS THE PROPHET WHO REFUSED TO DO GOD'S WORK, AND GOT SWALLOWED BY A GREAT FISH, AND WAS IN THE BELLY OF THE FISH FOR THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS.

The stupid Atheists say:

"THE BIBLE IS NONSENSE- NOBODY COULD LIVE INSIDE A FISH FOR THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS!"

Fools.

WHERE DOES IT SAY that Jonah LIVED in the Belly of the Fish for three days and three nights?

The Atheist has to ADD things to The Bible- or SUBTRACT them, to make It "RIDICULOUS."

Therefore, JONAH is an example of a man who DIED, went to HELL, and GOD FORGAVE HIM, and let him LIVE.

Therefore, forgiveness in Hell is NOT impossible.

However, YAHSHUA IMPLIED that there can be Forgiveness of Sins in the AfterLife.

If there isn't, it would be redundant for Yahshua to have said that there would be no Forgiveness for Blasphemy against The Holy Ghost in the World to come.

Hell is eternal.

. MATTHEW 25:31-46.

31. "When the Son of Man shall come in his Glory,
and all the Holy Angels with him,
then shall he sit upon the Throne of his Glory:
32. "And before him shall be gathered all Nations:
and he shall separate them one from another,
as a shepherd divideth his Sheep from the Goats:
33. "And he shall set the Sheep on his right hand,
but the Goats on the left.
34. "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand,

'COME, YE BLESSED OF MY FATHER,
INHERIT THE KINGDOM PREPARED FOR YOU
FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD:
35. 'FOR I WAS AN HUNGRED,
AND YE GAVE ME MEAT:
I WAS THIRSTY,
AND YE GAVE ME DRINK:
I WAS A STRANGER,
AND YE TOOK ME IN:
36. 'NAKED,
AND YE CLOTHED ME:
I WAS SICK,
AND YE VISITED ME:
I WAS IN PRISON,
AND YE CAME UNTO ME.'

37. "Then shall the Righteous answer him, saying,

'LORD, WHEN SAW WE THEE AN HUNGRED,
AND FED THEE?
OR THIRSTY,
AND GAVE THEE DRINK?
38. 'WHEN SAW WE THEE A STRANGER,
AND TOOK THEE IN?
OR NAKED,
AND CLOTHED THEE?
39. 'OR WHEN SAW WE THEE SICK,
OR IN PRISON,
AND CAME UNTO THEE?'

40. "And the King shall answer and say unto them,

'VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU,

"INASMUCH AS YE HAVE DONE IT
UNTO ONE OF THE LEAST
OF THESE MY BRETHREN,
YE HAVE DONE IT UNTO ME." '

41. "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand,

'DEPART FROM ME,
YE CURSED,
INTO EVERLASTING FIRE,
PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS:
42. 'FOR I WAS AN HUNGRED,
AND YE GAVE ME NO MEAT:
I WAS THIRSTY,
AND YE GAVE ME NO DRINK:
43. 'I WAS A STRANGER,
AND YE TOOK ME NOT IN:
NAKED,
AND YE CLOTHED ME NOT:
SICK,
AND IN PRISON,
AND YE VISITED ME NOT.'

44. "Then shall they also answer him, saying,

'LORD, WHEN SAW WE THEE AN HUNGRED,
OR ATHIRST,
OR A STRANGER,
OR NAKED,
OR SICK,
OR IN PRISON,
AND DID NOT MINISTER UNTO THEE?'

45. "Then shall he answer them, saying,

'VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU,

"INASMUCH AS YE DID IT NOT
TO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE,
YE DID IT NOT TO ME." '

46. "And these shall go away
into Everlasting Punishment:
but the Righteous into Life Eternal."

HELL IS NOT ETERNAL: IT WAS CREATED BY GOD, AT A SPECIFIC POINT, FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.

Only GOD is Eternal.

unrepentant sinners will burn.

THE OYINBOS EXAGGERATE THE BIBLE, IN ORDER TO SOW THE SEEDS FOR ITS LATER DISCARDING.

. DANIEL 3:1-30.

NEBUCHADNEZZAR the king made an image of gold,
whose height was threescore cubits,
and the breadth thereof six cubits:
he set it up in the plain of Dura,
in the Province of Babylon.
2. Then Nebuchadnezzar the king
sent to gather together the princes,
the governors, and the captains, the judges,
the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs,
and all the rulers of the provinces,
to come to the dedication of the image
which Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.
3. Then the princes, the governors, and captains, the judges,
the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs,
and all the rulers of the provinces,
were gathered together unto the dedication of the image
that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up;
and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up.
4. Then an herald cried aloud,

“To you it is commanded,
O people, nations, and languages,
5. “That at what time ye hear the sound
of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer,
and all kinds of musick,
ye fall down and worship the golden image
that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up:
6. “And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth
shall the same hour be cast into the midst
of a burning fiery furnace.”
7. Therefore at that time,
when all the people heard the sound of
the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery,
and all kinds of musick,
all the people, the nations, and the languages,
fell down and worshipped the golden image
that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.
8. Wherefore at that time certain Chaldeans came near,
and accused the Jews.
9. They spake and said to the king Nebuchadnezzar,
“O king, live for ever.
10. Thou, O king,
hast made a Decree,
that every man that shall hear the sound of
the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer,
and all kinds of musick,
shall fall down and worship the golden image:
11. “And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth,
that he should be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.
12. “There are certain Jews
whom thou hast set over the affairs
of the Province of Babylon,
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego;
these men, O king, have not regarded thee:
they serve not thy gods,
nor worship the golden image
which thou hast set up.”
13. Then Nebuchadnezzar in his rage and fury
commanded to bring Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.
Then they brought these men before the king.
14. Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them,
“Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego,
do not ye serve my gods,
nor worship the golden image which I have set up?
15. “Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear
the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer,
and all kinds of musick,
ye fall down and worship the image which I have made;
well: but if ye worship not,
ye shall be cast the same hour
into the midst of a burning fiery furnace;
and Who is That God
That shall deliver you out of my hands?
16. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego,
answered and said to the king,

“O Nebuchadnezzar,
we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.
17. “If it be so, our God Whom we serve
is able to deliver us
from the burning fiery furnace,
and He will deliver us out of thine hand,
O king.
18. “But if not, be it known unto thee,
O king,
that we will not serve thy gods,
nor worship the golden image
which thou hast set up.

19. Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury,
and the form of his visage was changed
against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego:
therefore he spake, and commanded
that they should heat the furnace
one seven times more than it was wont to be heated.
20. And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army
to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego,
and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
21. Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen,
and their hats, and their other garments,
and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
22. Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent,
and the furnace exceeding hot, the flames of the fire
slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.
23. And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego,
fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
24. Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied,
and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors,
"Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?"
They answered and said unto the king,
"True, O king."
25. He answered and said,
"Lo, I see four men loose,
walking in the midst of the fire,
and they have no hurt;
and the form of the fourth
is like the Son of God."
26. Then Nebuchadnezzar came near
to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace,
and spake, and said,
"Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego,
ye servants of The Most High God,
come forth, and come hither."
Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego,
came forth of the midst of the fire.
27. And the princes, governors, and captains,
and the king's counsellors,
being gathered together, saw these men,
upon whose bodies the fire had no power,
nor was an hair of their head singed,
neither were their coats changed,
nor the smell of fire had passed on them.
28. Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said,
“Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego,
who hath sent His Angel,
and delivered His Servants that trusted in Him,
and have changed the king's Word,
and yielded their bodies,
that they might not serve nor worship any god,
except their own God.
29. “Therefore I make a Decree,

'THAT EVERY PEOPLE, NATION, AND LANGUAGE,
WHICH SPEAK ANY THING AMISS AGAINST
THE GOD OF SHADRACH, MESHACH, AND ABEDNEGO,
SHALL BE CUT IN PIECES,
AND THEIR HOUSES SHALL BE MADE A DUNGHILL:'

because there is no other God
that can deliver after this sort.
30. Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego,
in the Province of Babylon.

THIS PROVES THAT FIRE IS NOT INTRINSICALLY HARMFUL TO A SPIRIT BEING.

Physical Senses require objects to roast one, before one knows that one is confronting HEAT.

The SPIRIT BODY'S SENSES can detect whatever one needs them to perceive, without PHYSICAL interaction- and therefore possibility of harm.

For instance, the Spiritual Body can FEEL how HOT Fire IS- while being TOTALLY UNABLE to SUFFER INJURY from it.

. LUKE 10:17-24.

17. And the seventy returned again with joy, saying,
"Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us through thy Name."
18. And he said unto them,
"I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven.
19. "Behold, I give unto you Power
to tread on Serpents and Scorpions,
and over all the Power of the Enemy:
and nothing shall by any means hurt you."
20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not,
that the spirits are subject unto you;
but rather rejoice, because your Names are written in Heaven."
21. In that Hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said,
"I thank thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and Earth,
that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto babes:
even so, Father; for so it seemed good in Thy Sight.
22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father:
and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father;
and Who the Father is, but the Son,
and he to whom the Son will reveal him."
23. And he turned him unto his Disciples, and said privately,
"Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see:
24. "For I tell you,

'THAT MANY
PROPHETS AND KINGS
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT
SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR
THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT
HEARD THEM.' "

I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, ON NAIRALAND- BUT NOBODY CARED ABOUT THESE TRUTHS FROM GOD.

GOD is not going to send you another Messenger whom you will love, to bring you Truth that you have rejected from Messengers whom you hated.

They were warned. They disobeyed.

WHAT ABOUT THE WARNINGS GOD SENT BY ME?

WHAT ABOUT YOUR DISOBEDIENCE OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS PREACHED THROUGH ME?

WHERE does this Doctrine that it is only OTHER PEOPLE'S SINS that are important- but not your own?

Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by orunto27: 2:22pm On Oct 01, 2016
With God every thing is possible and in the Spirit Reign, God is Omnipotent and humans cannot be jealous of that.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 3:40pm On Oct 01, 2016
IF HADES IS HELL, THEN EVERYBODY INCLUDING YOU WILL GO TO HELL SAYS ECCL 9:10 IN THE BIBLE


Pidggin:


Hades is hell and the bible says the rich man was in great pain which means he was suffering.


hehehehehe Hades is hell. and Gehenna is what ? and are you sure the richman is a ghost cos he wants to drink water o , or people go to hell with their bodies ni ? grin




The scripture you quoted was from the old testament written by a philosopher several years before Christ was born. Many believe the writer was a student of Solomon who may have lacked some understanding on the ways of God.

However, ecclesiastes shows a clear understanding of the ways of man and advocates hard work, trust in God and enjoyment of God's gift which makes it worthy of being included in the Bible.

crap, I didn't ask who wrote ecclesiastic or whatever you call it ! was Eccl 9 vs 10 inspired by God ? If yes , then explain why it says no knowledge in hades but the richman has knowledge ! contradiction ?

Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 3:59pm On Oct 01, 2016
analice107:


God is so merciful that's why he allowed you insult him and his servants all through your life. But when he seats as a judge, you'd see a different kind of God.
that's a characteristic of a man. lol
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by analice107: 3:59pm On Oct 01, 2016
Peacefullove:



where in your bible is the bold sef ?






1 Corinthians 15:53-54 For this perishable [part of us] must put on the imperishable [nature], and this mortal [part of us, this nature that is capable of dying] must put on immortality (freedom from death). And when this perishable puts on the imperishable and this that was capable of dying puts on freedom from death, then shall be fulfilled the Scripture that says, Death is swallowed up (utterly vanquished forever) in and unto victory.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 4:00pm On Oct 01, 2016
Pidggin:


Go and read the story of Lazarus and the rich man. Right now, you have many Christians preaching the message of the good news to you daily yet you are waiting to be sent to hell before you repent. There shall be a void between those in hell and those in heaven, be wise.
what of those who didn't get the opportunity to hear about Christ? like our forefathers?
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 4:03pm On Oct 01, 2016
analice107:


1 Corinthians 15:53-54 For this perishable [part of us] must put on the imperishable [nature], and this mortal [part of us, this nature that is capable of dying] must put on immortality (freedom from death). And when this perishable puts on the imperishable and this that was capable of dying puts on freedom from death, then shall be fulfilled the Scripture that says, Death is swallowed up (utterly vanquished forever) in and unto victory.


you people always think we are fools here abi ? the place you quote above was discussing something Christians called " Ressurection " not giving new body to those in hellfire, stop this nonsense , so are you saying hell would not be in existence until ressurection has happened ?


Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by analice107: 4:04pm On Oct 01, 2016
KingAdegoke:
that's a characteristic of a man. lol
What is the characteristic of a man?
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by analice107: 4:15pm On Oct 01, 2016
Peacefullove:


you people always think we are fools here abi ? the place you quote above was discussing something Christians called " Ressurection " not giving new body to those in hellfire, stop this nonsense , so are you saying hell would not be in existence until ressurection has happened ?



Hahahahahahahahahahaha. You just made me fall off my chair. So you think there's hellfire right now? No sir. If there's Hellfire now why is Satan not in hell? Or you think satan is the master over hellfire where he can come and go as he pleases? No.

There's what the Bible calls the place of the dead or the abode of the death. The Hades.

While in hellfire, both satan and everyone else will be equally helpless in the flames.

Hellfire shall be activated after the White throne Judgement. Not even after Rapture which is the first resurrection.

After the White Throne Judge, Satan, his demons, the rebellious mankind will be cast there. When that is death, death also shall be cast in there, hence, there'll no longer be death.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Jesuspolice(m): 4:15pm On Oct 01, 2016
Some people will know the truth and refuse to retain God in their Knowledge. The same loving God is a consuming fire. ..Don't play with eternity. ..Your life on earth determines that

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 6:12pm On Oct 01, 2016
Peacefullove:


[s]this boy don start quoting what he doesn't understand [/s], abeg explain that Matthew 10:28 o . I found it interesting
who doesn't understand what!
If you are finding difficult to understand don't ever think everyone is like you!
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 7:22pm On Oct 01, 2016
analice107:


Hahahahahahahahahahaha. You just made me fall off my chair. So you think there's hellfire right now? No sir. If there's Hellfire now why is Satan not in hell? Or you think satan is the master over hellfire where he can come and go as he pleases? No.


nice one , that means all those hell visions are LIES ? and people like solite3 who believe people go to hell now are fake ?







There's what the Bible calls the place of the dead or the abode of the death. The Hades.






do you now accept Hades = Grave ? ? Eccl 9 vs 10 king James.







While in hellfire, both satan and everyone else will be equally helpless in the flames.

Hellfire shall be activated after the White throne Judgement. Not even after Rapture which is the first resurrection.

After the White Throne Judge, Satan, his demons, the rebellious mankind will be cast there. When that is death, death also shall be cast in there, hence, there'll no longer be death.





hehehehe you won't kill me with laughter , what and who is death ? is death a person sef ? grin grin

2. how can you say there will no longer be death WHEN IT ACTUALLY EXIST somewhere in hellfire ? smh
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 7:28pm On Oct 01, 2016
solite3:
who doesn't understand what!
If you are finding difficult to understand don't ever think everyone is like you!

talk is cheap , explain Matthew 10:28
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by analice107: 9:02pm On Oct 01, 2016
Peacefullove:


nice one , that means all those hell visions are LIES ? and people like solite3 who believe people go to hell now are fake ?







do you now accept Hades = Grave ? ? Eccl 9 vs 10 king James.










hehehehe you won't kill me with laughter , what and who is death ? is death a person sef ? grin grin

2. how can you say there will no longer be death WHEN IT ACTUALLY EXIST somewhere in hellfire ? smh

Hey, forget these things, they are higher than you.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 3:34am On Oct 02, 2016
analice107:

What is the characteristic of a man?
the post i quoted. judgement bla bla. did God tell you that himself or religion?
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Tedassie(m): 6:13am On Oct 02, 2016
Jesuobu:
My dear no one knows and you shouldn't give a chance to beg for forgiveness when you have the chance of doing the will of God on earth and inherit eternal life.

But mind you, the fear of hell should not make you serve God but you should serve Him in spirit and in truth and when you do this, there is no chance of going to hell smiley
well said.

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 8:10am On Oct 02, 2016
Jesuspolice:
Some people will know the truth and refuse to retain God in their Knowledge. The same loving God is a consuming fire. ..Don't play with eternity. ..Your life on earth determines that


hmmm
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by queenkhadija(f): 10:08am On Oct 02, 2016
In ISLAM there is a concept like this I came across in the Al hadith. It talks a little about how hell is not permanent for the believers who repent. I really don't know the correct interpretation but here is the hadith: Sahih al-Bukhari Volume 8,
Book 76 Number 577
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by allanphash7(m): 10:10am On Oct 02, 2016
Op pls where is the heaven and the hell ?





You mean the sky above everyone here in where your heaven/hell is ?




My brother when you are dead you are dead




NB : which hell won pass Nigeria sef ?




Wake up bro

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by berrystunn(m): 10:11am On Oct 02, 2016
Berlynn:


God is a merciful God why will he let us perish undecided

Noting like both sides
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by pressplay411(m): 10:13am On Oct 02, 2016
Berlynn:
Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness?

Believe it or not, I did read the Bible, and I don't recall it actually explicitly stating "Once you are in Hell, you no longer have any chance for forgiveness, for Redemption."

That doesn't seem too Christian lets assume for a moment there's a Hell and some people are down there praying to Jesus, begging for forgiveness, begging to be forgiven for not believing in the twisted corrupt Churches while they were on earth, and will Jesus just ignores them?

The Jesus I imagine wouldn't ignore them, not even if they were in Hell, the Jesus I know wouldn't be that petty. He doesn't care if they screwed up & they're in Hell....He would forgive them and go get them to heaven

You're hitting brick bruh.
All you can get is opinions and speculations, no empirical facts here.

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