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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by Luckygurl(f): 9:57am On Oct 02, 2016

One principle of life is the act of sowing and reaping.

Let's take out religious sentiments, in every endeavour of life, you get what you sow.
I've applied this principle and it's always worked for me, really!!

Concerning tithes, there are months I really don't feel like paying cos that feeling of what I have on me not been enough.
Those are the months I end up paying ridiculously on items I never budgeted on.

Then those months I pay my tithes, I get surprising packages from friends and family.

I've noticed this particular occurrence over a long period of time and it's changed my mindset towards tithe paying.

@op, the fact that you diverted that cash for what it was not meant to be used for isn't right. Let's not even talk about the tithe and the fact that your uncle is the stingy type. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Well!! It has always been a free world y'know.

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by anonimi: 9:57am On Oct 02, 2016

Sermwell:
Before I stopped going to church, I was living with a very stingy religious uncle who gives me #500 or #1000 for offering every sunday! But the truth was that I have never given the money to church! I had always removed the money and submitted empty envelops!
Just this morning, our house was on "fire" just because I said I wasn't going to church again and in the course of the heated argument, I told them how I had never even paid offering even when the money was given to me!
My parents became mad at me and saying that if I don't go and beg for forgiveness and pay all those money, that the cancerworm and caterpillars will "chop" all the money me and my generation will ever make! Personally, I just believe all those things are trash but the way my dad was saying it convincingly and trying to quote the bible makes me want to ask if those curses are true for "chopping god's money"

Why has canckerworm etc not eaten "all the money me and my generation will ever make" for Bill Gates, Dangote, Chinese billionaires etc?

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by Joshintua(m): 9:58am On Oct 02, 2016

No one rob God without its consequences...bro, just tell it to God to forgive u, he's able and willing to forgive u.

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by Nobody: 9:58am On Oct 02, 2016

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.. and all the money belong to greedy pastors

The present of Christ is in every Church bro, whether the pastor is fake or not. He sees all and hear the cry of those who seek him, hears the cry of the needy and less privilege, even hears the cry of the rich who came to him for help. So if a pastor is fake, he or she is on his own. On the last day all men will give account. God blesses his people thru Christ and not a pastor. So if you give in a church that the pastor is fake, you are giving Christ and not the pastor bro. Christ is the church, the church is Christ.

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by Miles300: 9:58am On Oct 02, 2016

Offerings are ways of honoring for his blessing upon our lives and also means to promote the work of God ... U are giving to God to Honour and not the mentality of Giving him and hoping to cash in millions cos u gave .. God doesn't work on such principles , this is no baba ijebu or nairabet.. If it works dat way every Christian dat gives should be a millaionaire... True blessing in giving is when u give without expecting anything in return .. That's when God works...

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by omocalabar(m): 9:59am On Oct 02, 2016

Seems everybody is in consensus on ''God's money''......i wonder what it looks like

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by joyspringacad(m): 10:00am On Oct 02, 2016

allanphash7:
They have succeded in brainwashing your parent and your pareants are working tirelessy in brainshing you so that you can do the same to your children and the brainwashing continues

RELIGION IS NOTHING BUT A SCAM !!!

The way people talk these days baffles me a lot. God have mercy on you

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by ChiefCommander(m): 10:00am On Oct 02, 2016

Sermwell:
Before I stopped going to church, I was living with a very stingy religious uncle who gives me #500 or #1000 for offering every sunday! But the truth was that I have never given the money to church! I had always removed the money and submitted empty envelops!
Just this morning, our house was on "fire" just because I said I wasn't going to church again and in the course of the heated argument, I told them how I had never even paid offering even when the money was given to me!
My parents became mad at me and saying that if I don't go and beg for forgiveness and pay all those money, that the cancerworm and caterpillars will "chop" all the money me and my generation will ever make! Personally, I just believe all those things are trash but the way my dad was saying it convincingly and trying to quote the bible makes me want to ask if those curses are true for "chopping god's money"

All these you did; who's loss? Approach it from that angle first.

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by ChiefCommander(m): 10:02am On Oct 02, 2016

APCsupporter:
I'm a Muslim and I don't give any offering against my wish and I'm still fine and well today. Op, don't mind them. Enjoy your money. That money was meant for one pot-bellied pastor to enjoy and not for God

"Pot bellied pastor"? ....and was that the best adjective or metaphor you could muster?

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by pressplay411(m): 10:04am On Oct 02, 2016

Sermwell:
Before I stopped going to church, I was living with a very stingy religious uncle who gives me #500 or #1000 for offering every sunday! But the truth was that I have never given the money to church! I had always removed the money and submitted empty envelops!
Just this morning, our house was on "fire" just because I said I wasn't going to church again and in the course of the heated argument, I told them how I had never even paid offering even when the money was given to me!
My parents became mad at me and saying that if I don't go and beg for forgiveness and pay all those money, that the cancerworm and caterpillars will "chop" all the money me and my generation will ever make! Personally, I just believe all those things are trash but the way my dad was saying it convincingly and trying to quote the bible makes me want to ask if those curses are true for "chopping god's money"

This is the kind of train of thought that keeps us backward and in mental slavery.

Your parents have planted that idea into your mind. It is up to you to either let your subconscious mind believe it.
What your subconscious mind believes, it attracts to fruition.
So really, it's up to you.

I must add
Giving attracts blessings.
Whether in the form of Offerings, tithe, alms or sowing seed or helping out a friend, so it doesn't hurt to give when you can.

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by Johnrake69: 10:09am On Oct 02, 2016

Stelvin101:
First of all you disobeyed God by robbing him and secondly, whether your uncle is stingy or not you disobeyed him. Go and ask God for forgiveness, else! I repeat else!

Bro you don't make mockery of God! You have no reason to justify your action. Whether the church pastor is fake or not you are not giving your money to him but rather to God. Christ is the church and not any pastor of member. Every church belong to Christ

Wow... No wonder churches in Nigeria are having a filled day. Who told you every church belongs to God?

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by orisa37: 10:10am On Oct 02, 2016

My friend, you are very funny. Go and repent before your Penis and the Sex organs of your parents are gutted by fire.

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by mrwash(m): 10:11am On Oct 02, 2016

Galatians 6:7-8
Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

If I were you, I would ask God for forgiveness, and make a vow to always put my tithe/offering. The benefits and rewards are endless

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by WhoIBe: 10:19am On Oct 02, 2016

Sermwell:
Before I stopped going to church, I was living with a very stingy religious uncle who gives me #500 or #1000 for offering every sunday! But the truth was that I have never given the money to church! I had always removed the money and submitted empty envelops!
Just this morning, our house was on "fire" just because I said I wasn't going to church again and in the course of the heated argument, I told them how I had never even paid offering even when the money was given to me!
My parents became mad at me and saying that if I don't go and beg for forgiveness and pay all those money, that the cancerworm and caterpillars will "chop" all the money me and my generation will ever make! Personally, I just believe all those things are trash but the way my dad was saying it convincingly and trying to quote the bible makes me want to ask if those curses are true for "chopping god's money"

Go and pray for forgiveness from God & your parents. Words from parents are too powerful, either curses or blessings. In your case which one is it?

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by Igbaba2: 10:21am On Oct 02, 2016

Cutting d story short, @op what u're doing is wrong jst ask 4 pardon and God'll pardon u. Hence try to atleast drop smtin 4 God, God said in d old testament when God was giving rules to his people, that #don't cm to my house without an offering(Exo 23:15-16).

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by berrystunn(m): 10:23am On Oct 02, 2016

stam101:
u and I know its very wrong for u to eat God's money, but so long as u confess and repent from it God is ever ready to forgive u....

Story God's money how??

That money is for pastor and his family....

God only need your pure heart and soul noting more.

If you like give one billion...., it's can only move pastor not God

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by festuschika(m): 10:24am On Oct 02, 2016

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by mamuzoOMAH(m): 10:44am On Oct 02, 2016

op you sef. why u dey do like that na. you stingy o. We all know the money doesn't go to God. the money is used by employees of the church. How do u expect the church to grow if you can't assist the ministry. every institution needs money u know. Giving offering isn't necessary but it is important you do so that the church continue to grow. If you don't give offerings it simply means you want the church to go in extinction. Provided you are not being compelled to give a certain amount of money, then it's necessary you assist the church with the little money you can. thanks for your time

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by emerged01(m): 10:47am On Oct 02, 2016

Op you are on your own. What you sow you shall reap. It is a principle.

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by Nobody: 10:51am On Oct 02, 2016

Johnrake69:
Wow... No wonder churches in Nigeria are having a filled day. Who told you every church belongs to God?

I didn't say it, God said it himself. If you are Christian then read these scriptures. Shekinah

1 Corinthians 12 v 27-28

Ephesians 5 v 22 - 23, 31 - 32

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by xtervaganza(m): 10:52am On Oct 02, 2016

Far too many funny comments here

Op, nothing will happen to you. Politicians put their hands kn the bible and Quran and swear not to steal but they steal blindly and keep getting richer

And btw, the Christian religion is a money making organisation, there's nothing divine about the god or religion itself

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by olawonder(m): 11:00am On Oct 02, 2016

honourhim:
What you did was fraud. You were given money for a specific purpose and you diverted it to your personal pocket. That's bad and whatever the owner of the money (your parents) pronounce on you will happen. If it is your own money, you can do whatever you like with it. Offerimg is not a must.

Sounds a bit ironic... doesn't it undecided

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by lonelydora: 11:00am On Oct 02, 2016

They gave you money for offering and you used it for another thing. That's stealing. Go and beg God to forgive you for stealing. I don't know about the 'cankerworm and caterpillar' punishment, but the consequences of stealing is what you will get sooner or later.

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by mrmachine: 11:05am On Oct 02, 2016

Johnrake69:
Is it even necessary to give someone money for offering? If the person doesn't earn money, I see no reason for it. We are just too religious while our faith is less than an inch deep.

The said uncle is just too religious. What stops him from placing the op on a monthly allowance and make the op understand that from the allowance he should always take out his offering?

Many of us condemning the op are just part of the problem. Let me ask what do churches use our offering for?
1. Engage in never ending church building projects when more than half of their members are homeless.

2. Maintain the lavish lifestyle of the G.O. many of the G.O have personal houses in almost all the states in Nigeria. Etc

Now, not to talk of the politics in the church. I once worshipped in a local assembly where 85% of the tithe and offering from the branch is remitted to the regional quarters. So the local assembly retains just 15% meanwhile my hope was that some of that money should be used to take care of the very poor among us in the local assembly. Churches operate a cutthroat capitalist system where the local assembly are made to starve just so that the head quarters can overfloor. The system of exploitation we complain of in our economy is strongly rooted in our churches today.

What is true religion? James 1:27
Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their misfortune and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

Clearly, our churches have lost focus. It's all about church building projects that is unending. I believe in other to re-position the church to be Christ like who was selfless, we the members have to speak up to address some of these issues.

If the Christ was alive today, he would definitely had commanded that some church building should be converted to residential building in order to house the homeless.

You have not robbed man but God. He won't take it likely with you. Your parents are right. What befalls someone like you is calamity and sickness, don't be like Pharaoh, repent now and start to pay the money back. I pray GOD have mercy on you. I don't want to contribute before, I heard a voice just now that I warn you. Please be warned.

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by skuribeebo: 11:09am On Oct 02, 2016

dirtymoney:
1. Before I stopped going to church.
You better retrace your step on that!

2. I was living with a very stingy religious uncle who gives me #500 or #1000 for offering every Sunday!
Okay, u call someone who puts roof on your head and still gives #500 or #1000 every Sunday "stingy"?
Oga. you are actually an ingrate.

3. But the truth was that I have never given the money to church!
That makes you a THIEF sir.

4. I had always removed the money and submitted empty envelops!
This is one of the reasons Dave referred to Nigerians as FANTASTICALLY CORRUPT. And I have an issue with you having a conscience at all.

5. Just this morning, our house was on "fire" just because I said I wasn't going to church again.
And you still live with your parents And you think you can the shots - Wake up boy.

6. and in the course of the heated argument,
You argue with your parents?? Wow. I hop your child doesn't argue wit you too.

7. I told them how I had never even paid offering even when the money was given to me!
You actually did that against your will... When Karma prepares dinner... she serves you with a portion that manipulates your senses before the actual meal.

8. My parents became mad at me and saying that if I don't go and beg for forgiveness and pay all those money, that the cancerworm and caterpillars will "chop" all the money me and my generation will ever make.
For calling your Uncle stingy, your parents were even lenient with their judgement.

9. I just believe all those things are trash...
Ow... so you think
That guy is just so useless , ingrate and irresponsible.

10. but the way my dad was saying it convincingly (Now boy-o-boy is scared as sh*t)

11. and trying to quote the bible makes me want to ask if those curses are true
You guys must think nairaland is a refuse disposal center where you bring all manner of junks to bother people's life.

12. for "chopping god's money"
I see the quote, sarcasm I guess. Well, I don't have a problem with that.. what I have a problem with is you spelling "God" with a small letter!!

Boss. In as much as I don't want to further complicate your already screwed up Sunday, I tell you, the best thing I can say is that you need a conscience ASAP. unfortunately they don't sell them on eBay.

You call uncle stingy, you argue with daddy and mummy, you steal from God, make a joke out of it and deceive people with an empty envelop and then you run to nairaland hoping to find answers to a dumb question you already have the answer to. you are further complicating your issue.

Go listen to Kendrick Lamar's Sing About Me/I'm Dying of Thirst and repeat the prayer that was said at the end.
then turn a new leaf!

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by Johnrake69: 11:10am On Oct 02, 2016

mrmachine:
You have not robbed man but God. He won't take it likely with you. Your parents are right. What befalls someone like you is calamity and sickness, don't be like Pharaoh, repent now and start to pay the money back. I pray GOD have mercy on you. I don't want to contribute before, I heard a voice just now that I warn you. Please be warned.

Do you have a problem reading or is comprehension your problem? huh

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by promise101: 11:11am On Oct 02, 2016

d33types:
giving offering isnt a must. You can decide not to give your own money.its your own headache.

But in this case, your action is pure fraud whether it was done against God or Man.
You are liable to God's wrath or Karma whichever is applicable.

Make restitutions and live your life

Restitution is good!

But, it DOESN'T GIVE or TAKEAWAY salvation!

Salvation is not on the basis of restitution but on the basis of the free gift of God through faith.

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by Cleantip(m): 11:17am On Oct 02, 2016

Give to Zizer what belongs to Zizer and To God what belongs to God. As a Christian you should know this.

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by sanerugwei: 11:18am On Oct 02, 2016

APCsupporter:
I'm a Muslim and I don't give any offering against my wish and I'm still fine and well today. Op, don't mind them. Enjoy your money. That money was meant for one pot-bellied pastor to enjoy and not for God

The first thing for you to do is give your life to Christ the only begotten son of God. Afterwards the Holy Spirit will indwell you , then you will experience the fineness of Jah. Stop commenting on what you know nothing about?
BTW why are mohameddians allowed to comment of Christian inspired topics but others are forced to swear some devilish oath before commenting on theirs. Isn't that a form of apartheid?
Mods repent ...

Back to the topic, OP you have committed fraud against your uncle, seek his forgiveness and return to God your maker in truth, God will surely forgive and prosper you in due course. A contrite and broken heart, HE will never despise or cast away.

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Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by APCsupporter: 11:20am On Oct 02, 2016

sanerugwei:
The first thing for you to do is give your life to Christ the only begotten son of God. Afterwards the Holy Spirit will indwell you , then you will experience the fineness of Jah. Stop commenting on what you know nothing about?
BTW why are mohameddians allowed to comment of Christian inspired topics but others are forced to swear some devilish oath before commenting on theirs. Isn't that a form of apartheid?
Mods repent ...

Back to the topic, OP you have committed fraud against your uncle, seek his forgiveness and return to God your maker in truth, God will surely forgive and prosper you in due course. A contrite and broken heart, HE will never despise or cast away.

Are you saying that your god had sex with mary?(Without her permission). Cos that's what beget means

Re: Is This The True Consequence Of Not Giving Offering In Church? by sanerugwei: 11:26am On Oct 02, 2016

APCsupporter:
Are you saying that your god had sex with mary?(Without her permission). Cos that's what beget means

Go ahead and continue blaspheming. If it's the other way round you will call for jungle and barbaric fatwa.
God(I mean Jehovah) is indeed a merciful God.

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