If anyone here has been to hell before, then he /she should pls show us the pictures including a selfie taken with lucifer himself. Otherwise, gerrarrahere for real mehn ... Shiiiiii.!

Brethren, there's no repentance in hell, it's advisable to listen to the words of God while alive. Those things u were told abt God and u refused to believe while alive shall u believe in hell where there's no repentance nor mercy. What u do while alive will determine where u go when u die. Bible even said there's no work, knowledge and wisdom in the grave. It's appointed unto man to die once and thereafter judgement. Since its impossible to go hell having made heaven, so is it impossible to go from hell to heaven if ur name isn't found in the book of life. He that's not found in the book of life shall be cast into the lake of fire. Rev....20:15. to read more abt hell go to matt 25:46, Matt 13:41-43, Rev 14:10 downward, isaiah 33:12-15, mark 9:43 downward. Thanks

IBEXY:
The general notion here is that once in hell, you are condemned forever. Can I ask a simple question:
If a child of 7 years steals a candy from the local shop and dies while running away from the scene.
Will he go to hell and be condemned to eternal fire and brimstone? Will God really fling this little boy into the same pits that hold hardened criminals and pedophiles - just for a bar of candy?

I still need an answer for this. What will God do in this case?

Bro be ye not deceived, hell is real and eternal, read the book of revelations.the second coming is not a joke o, my only fear is the way which devil is recruiting recently. Everything is hard,sin is in every corner you turn to, hussle is so real you hardly have time for God, some times I spend time praying for God's grace.

scrutinize the theory of hellfire, all you'll find is disjointed tales, man made explanations and attempt to demean the person doing the scrutiny.
This thread is a perfect example, when their theories clash, they will not try to correct each other but accuse others of not understanding.

One of them even tried to belittle a whole book of the bible cus a verse does not support his own version that people have thoughts and memory in hellfire! imagine!, proponents of hellfire will read it but say nothing!

The first set of questions those who have questions to ask about hellfire is: what goes to hellfire and when? Is it the body, soul or spirit, the 3 or just 2 of the 3.
ask these questions and you will see the most disjointed answers that does not align with the bible.

Goyim:


How can you kill something that doesn't yet exist?
This entire post is unbelievably retãrded.

Calm down. When I mentioned 'unborn kids', I meant a foetus that is still undergoing its developing stage in the uterus.

Go nd read ur bible, well

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IBEXY:

I still need an answer for this. What will God do in this case?

First of all, you're looking at the concept of hell all wrong. According my philosophy which I believe is based on the Bible, people don't go to hell based off the gravity or amount of their sinful acts. So I have to tell u that there will even be some "hardened criminals" I presume, in heaven.

Heaven is about forgiveness, and most importantly accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior. It's not actually about being perfect, which should be evidenced by some of the people who God loved most in the Bible (i.e. David). It's nuanced in the sense that loving and respecting God won't actually allow you to sin a majority of the time, but just know that that's not what I would call the foundation of Christianity. Jesus came to "take away the law of sin and death", and institute the law of grace. "The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life thru Jesus Christ" andddd not to quote more Bible verses, cause I sound like my mum but "God demonstrates his own love for us in this, while we were STILL sinners, Christ died for us". This is just to show that God is not..... how do I put it, obsessed with like, a perfect record of never sinning in ones life. If he could send his only son to die for a bunch of sinners, some of whom still wouldn't accept him; just to save those that would.

Hopefully there is an element of enlightenment there, lol. As for your specific analogy, I would say no. That's just me personally; Christians (I can't speak for all of course) have what we call the age of accountability, which before then we presume a child can't be sent to hell because they don't rly have the capacity to accept Jesus into their heart one way or another. Like, physically, biologically, their brains aren't functioning at that level yet.

Note that, it's not that such a child does not have the capacity to sin. At the age of four, a baby can beat another baby, at the age of six, a child can steal or be rude to their parents or anything. So it's not rly about the lack of sin per se, it's about the fact that they have not reached a capacity to reason about the abstract. Otherwise God would be sending all babies to hell, cause none of them have accepted him as their Lord and Savior yet. (Note also, that God doesn't care a dot which family you come from, which is to say that toddlers from Christian families would have no preference over those from Muslim families or Buddhist families etc etc).

I can't say exactly when the age of accountability is reached, I believe it's also nuanced per situation. Just know that God is smart, kind and just. Hope my epistle helped?

cc: KingEbukasBlog Piddgin

Psam91:


Wish? Lol i stopped reading there.
NICE contracdiction. Feel free to go back to your bible.

God took a resolute decision on our behalf right from the start. Look at the world around you. Death everywhere, hunger, crisis here and there, sickness, deformity e.t.c Is God blind to all these? I know you will say the devil is responsible for the ills plaguing mankind and he's able to do want he wants with us because we sinned. So, why did God place the apple in the garden and sent satan loose among his creation when he knew that satan will tempt man? How come satan become possessed by bad thoughts if it wasn't god who manipulated him like the way he did king pharoah and king saul?

No thanks. I'd rather pick up the Dan Brown I left yesterday.

Who d Hell is asking this? This shows the person as been missing sunday school or doesnt attend at all.....While you here on earth, you know the truth buh still choose to run things, my frnd, ur punishment for hell if you end up dere will start from 15 B.C - 90 A.D.. You fit calculate and gimme an estimate of the nunber of years inbtw? There's no repentance after death, Gbam.

kingjabz:

That's not true That's what they said during Noah's time and they all perished by not believing You can still believe before it's too late

Your God sucks on all levels. Tell him I said he should go fûck himself.

MrsPhyno:

First of all, you're looking at the concept of hell all wrong. According my philosophy which I believe is based on the Bible, people don't go to hell based off the gravity or amount of their sinful acts. So I have to tell u that there will even be some "hardened criminals" I presume, in heaven.

Heaven is about forgiveness, and most importantly accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior. It's not actually about being perfect, which should be evidenced by some of the people who God loved most in the Bible (i.e. David). It's nuanced in the sense that loving and respecting God won't actually allow you to sin a majority of the time, but just know that that's not what I would call the foundation of Christianity. Jesus came to "take away the law of sin and death", and institute the law of grace. "The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life thru Jesus Christ" andddd not to quote more Bible verses, cause I sound like my mum but "God demonstrates his own love for us in this, while we were STILL sinners, Christ died for us". This is just to show that God is not..... how do I put it, obsessed with like, a perfect record of never sinning in ones life. If he could send his only son to die for a bunch of sinners, some of whom still wouldn't accept him; just to save those that would.

Hopefully there is an element of enlightenment there, lol. As for your specific analogy, I would say no. That's just me personally; Christians (I can't speak for all of course) have what we call the age of accountability, which before then we presume a child can't be sent to hell because they don't rly have the capacity to accept Jesus into their heart one way or another. Like, physically, biologically, their brains aren't functioning at that level yet.

Note that, it's not that such a child does not have the capacity to sin. At the age of four, a baby can beat another baby, at the age of six, a child can steal or be rude to their parents or anything. So it's not rly about the lack of sin per se, it's about the fact that they have not reached a capacity to reason about the abstract. Otherwise God would be sending all babies to hell, cause none of them have accepted him as their Lord and Savior yet. (Note also, that God doesn't care a dot which family you come from, which is to say that toddlers from Christian families would have no preference over those from Muslim families or Buddhist families etc etc).

I can't say exactly when the age of accountability is reached, I believe it's also nuanced per situation. Just know that God is smart, kind and just. Hope my epistle helped?

cc: KingEbukasBlog Piddgin

Fantastic response .

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



I AM A BORN AGAIN, FULL-GOSPEL, PENTECOSTAL CHRISTIAN OF 35 YEARS' STANDING. I AM NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY ORGANIZED CHRISTIAN CHURCH, AS OF 1985. In addition to what The Bible Teaches, I use compatible Teachings of Advanced Men whom God has used as a WITNESS to CONDEMN ORGANIZED CHRISTIANITY, which is designed to DESTROY CHRISTIANS.

Therefore, I know what I am talking about from KNOWLEDGE.

You speak from nothing but ignorance.

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

"JUDGE not, that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother,

'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'

and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
lest they trample them under their feet,
and turn again and rend you."

As of last week, I would have written out extensive proofs to help you and convince you- but after my banning for giving a forthright answer to the SAM HARRIS Blasphemy, I have decided that I will no longer disobey the Lord, and will stop casting my pearls before you swine.

If you want to know about the FOUR AFTERLIFE Fates- DESTRUCTION, HELL, PARADISE, and HEAVEN, you can go to my BLOG, and prove your worthiness, if you are not a dog, nor a pig.

[See my Blog: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE?]

Pls can u recommend ANY books?? I would love to follow up... Online books. Am waiting

KingEbukasBlog:


Fantastic response .

Fanks babes

Never

This question is for the purgatory catholics, they will do better to answer your question. No second chance in hell. That's why the damned always say 'had I known'

StunchLord:
One thing I understand is that there is nothing like hell and I doubt if such a place exists cause I can't comprehend why a loving, compassionate father would wish such a place for his children.
Why do you worry about the end of the world? Why didn't the world end last year? What about other planets, is our world, I mean earth, so important for it to decide the fate of the rest of the universe? What about unborn kids? Is this sermon about the end of days not been on for many years? You believe in the bible and is convinced it's the one and only truth? What makes you think God would act according to the principles of the bible, the same bible operating on double standards? God is highly unpredictable. Whether you are a sinner or a saint, there is no guarantee of a blissful eternal paradise for you.
At least the death of unborn kids show how wicked and inhumane the biblical God could be.

Be not deceived, God is Love but the same God is a consuming fire saith the scriptures. This suggest God has 2 sides. Hell was made for satan and his angels and the people who reject Jesus Christ free gift of salvation.
Its as real and truthful as that!!!.
If you miss heaven because you reject Jesus free gift of salvation you cant miss hell. The choice is yours.
A wise person would accept Jesus free gift of salvation and be assured and be on the path of eternal life.Say yes to Jesus Christ today.

I heard that Anton Lavey!! that guy satan deceived to form the Church of satan, when he was about to die, reports have it that he said "Oh what have I done" apparently his eyes were opened to see his destination of eternal flames of fire having chosen to be deceived by Satan.

Folks Satan is real, God is more real, heaven is real so also is hell. Left for Satan, you should be highly ignorant of this so you can continue on the path of eternal damnation.

thunderbabs:
Who d Hell is asking this? This shows the person as been missing sunday school or doesnt attend at all.....While you here on earth, you know the truth buh still choose to run things, my frnd, ur punishment for hell if you end up dere will start from 15 B.C - 90 A.D.. You fit calculate and gimme an estimate of the nunber of years inbtw? There's no repentance after death, Gbam.

The brainwashing is strong. Don't innocent people (young and old) who attend church services on sundays and obey God's commandments and law abiding citizens die everyday like atheists, traditionalists, murderers, thieves? You really think God will keep your ass_ in heaven if you meet his terms? What says he wouldn't cast you into the fiery lake of fire, and proclaim it his will for you to suffer because He knows best? Ruminate on that my friend.

MrsPhyno:

First of all, you're looking at the concept of hell all wrong. According my philosophy which I believe is based on the Bible, people don't go to hell based off the gravity or amount of their sinful acts. So I have to tell u that there will even be some "hardened criminals" I presume, in heaven.

I doubt if my point was the gravity but the fact that someone committed a "theft". You missed the point. It was about if a child will be "punished" even though his mind had not matured enough to know right from wrong. The rest of your post was you trying to rationalize and defend God as a non child abuser.

MrsPhyno:

Hopefully there is an element of enlightenment there, lol. As for your specific analogy, I would say no. That's just me personally; Christians (I can't speak for all of course) have what we call the age of accountability, which before then we presume a child can't be sent to hell because they don't rly have the capacity to accept Jesus into their heart one way or another. Like, physically, biologically, their brains aren't functioning at that level yet.

Note that, it's not that such a child does not have the capacity to sin. At the age of four, a baby can beat another baby, at the age of six, a child can steal or be rude to their parents or anything. So it's not rly about the lack of sin per se, it's about the fact that they have not reached a capacity to reason about the abstract. Otherwise God would be sending all babies to hell, cause none of them have accepted him as their Lord and Savior yet. (Note also, that God doesn't care a dot which family you come from, which is to say that toddlers from Christian families would have no preference over those from Muslim families or Buddhist families etc etc).

Where does the bible speak about age of accountability? Is that the human in you speaking for God?
So its up to a human council of elders to determine who goes to hell or not. Is sin to sin for some age groups?

MrsPhyno:
I can't say exactly when the age of accountability is reached, I believe it's also nuanced per situation. Just know that God is smart, kind and just. Hope my epistle helped?

How can this process be impartial if an adult will head straight to hell for stealing the same bar of candy? Sin is sin right? This is why its difficult to believe the bible. Some of us see the human reasoning in it - despite them telling us God wrote the book.

Berlynn:
Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness?

Believe it or not, I did read the Bible, and I don't recall it actually explicitly stating "Once you are in Hell, you no longer have any chance for forgiveness, for Redemption."

That doesn't seem too Christian lets assume for a moment there's a Hell and some people are down there praying to Jesus, begging for forgiveness, begging to be forgiven for not believing in the twisted corrupt Churches while they were on earth, and will Jesus just ignores them?

The Jesus I imagine wouldn't ignore them, not even if they were in Hell, the Jesus I know wouldn't be that petty. He doesn't care if they screwed up & they're in Hell....He would forgive them and go get them to heaven

don't believe what the people are saying, just think with ur brain,the pastors have lied to people about God and even the Bible is not so truthful,I was born in a Christian family and after growing up to study the Bible very well I saw so many wrong doings and I totally lost fate in Christianity but after looking closer I found out that people have tampered with the Bible in the name of translation couple with fact that some of the so called men of God in the Bible are very wrong with their philosophy and way of life,so I just take Bible like an ordinary good book but if you are still believing that every word in the Bible is from God you are not thinking deeply and for me no heaven no hell,funny as it seems am Christian but I don't beloved in that shit and I didn't believe God said so,there is no way God in his infinite wisdom will do such thing to his creation that will make him look like a fool,don't believe what you have been hearing or reading from any book including the Bible and I know people will call me a liar that am the devil himself but ask yourself according to Bible what is the last statement of Jesus on the cross?I know like four from this same Bible and it is called the last statement.... really is either three of them is wrong or all is wrong....

It is appointed unto man to die once and thereafter faces judgement. The door of mercy is only available here on earth as there's no hope for the dead who died in sin. The mercy of God expires when one is called to give account of hi steward. There's nothing like purgatory or any place where souls are redeemed. The door of mercy is permanently shut after one's death.

Drabeey:


he changed his words when he commanded Abraham to later ignore his son and kill a ram instead

Mr. Whoever, God Was Testing Abraham's Faith..

StunchLord:

The brainwashing is strong. Don't innocent people (young and old) who attend church services on sundays and obey God's commandments and law abiding citizens die everyday like atheists, traditionalists, murderers, thieves? You really think God will keep your ass_ in heaven if you meet his terms? What says he wouldn't cast you into the fiery lake of fire, and proclaim it his will for you to suffer because He knows best? Ruminate on that my friend.

StunchLord, attending church services regularly is no criterion for heaven, being law abiding to man-made laws is nt a criterion either. It is only if you are totally obedient to God's words till death take you away. If you are an atheist or a staunch sinner, you must ve heard the truth abt God, holiness, heaven and hell. Bro, you ve no excuse at all. If you die in sin, benchwarmer in church or non-goer, law-abiding or not, atheist or not, if you Die in ur Sin, Hell is as sure as Death. Snap out of those thoughts you brainwashed yourself with.

If you a xtian, have you studied d Bible to know how to live a life worthy of heaven or perhaps, u a muslim, study d quran

IBEXY:

I doubt if my point was the gravity but the fact that someone committed a "theft". You missed the point. It was about if a child will be "punished" even though his mind had not matured enough to know right from wrong. The rest of your post was you trying to rationalize and defend God as a non child abuser.


Where does the bible speak about age of accountability? Is that the human in you speaking for God?
So its up to a human council of elders to determine who goes to hell or not. Is sin to sin for some age groups?


How can this process be impartial if an adult will head straight to hell for stealing the same bar of candy? Sin is sin right? This is why its difficult to believe the bible. Some of us see the human reasoning in it - despite them telling us God wrote the book.

lol but you implied, you came out with the whole "paedophile" "hardened criminals" ish. So I'm saying there's technically no difference. A sin is a sin but the action of sin isn't actually what keeps you out of heaven. If in a hypothetical situation, you managed to never sin in your life, but you still didn't accept Jesus as your savior, you wouldn't go to heaven. Hope you get my point now.

@Bolded, I thought I just explained that..... indeed, a child who is not mature enough to understand the concept of God and accept him into his or her heart, would not be sent to hell. How many more ways do you want me to answer that lol.

I never said anything about child abuse......

lol that's right, I'm a human and I'm telling you my interpretation of God's word. What do you think Pastors are for? In order for me to even believe in something I have to have a personal philosophy, otherwise it's just letters in a book.

You're going into inanity now sir.... No one mentioned any councils or elders. I can sit here and tell you who is going to heaven, or who's not going to heaven. That won't change "jack". I'm just telling you what I believe. God decides. Regardless of my belief or disbelief God still does what he wants. So elders might have their own opinion for their own reason just like I said that a child that's not reached the 3rd stage of cognitive development cannot be held accountable for anything, least of all spiritual matters; that's my philosophy. That doesn't change the way God operates. I put out my opinion of his nature and his actions, I provided what I would call a Christians perspective to your question since you asked for it.

How many times do I have to say it's not about the sin per se. I even inserted a sermons worth of Bible verses to back it up.

I never said it was impartial either..... God made me, my "parents made me", without asking my permission. I didn't ask to be alive, what if it's too stressful, no one consulted me on whether I wanna be male or female or ugly or beautiful. Some ppl are "better" than others, is that impartial? Is that not the order of the universe? This is Gods world and we just live in it.

Plus, I never said an adult would go to hell for stealing the same candy bar. Also, doesn't make any sense for you to equate an adults actions to a child's when you just said their minds are not mature enough to know right from wrong.

I am yet to know of the religion, or even the secular governing body that says that the actions of a child = that of an adult. Children commit actual crimes and in the court of law even get lighter/different punishments than adults for the same crimes almost completely. Why are their juvenile prisons? Even for children that are very near adulthood like 15,16,17; not to talk of for 6 and 8 year olds. We don't "punish" children in the same way we do adults. God likewise is like that, from what I've read in the Bible. Are u here to argue that that is somehow not right? If anything, that is more fair cause it takes into account the fundamental difference between being a child and being an adult. Anyone who feels otherwise is a bit looney, I think.

Berlynn:
Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness?

Believe it or not, I did read the Bible, and I don't recall it actually explicitly stating "Once you are in Hell, you no longer have any chance for forgiveness, for Redemption."

That doesn't seem too Christian lets assume for a moment there's a Hell and some people are down there praying to Jesus, begging for forgiveness, begging to be forgiven for not believing in the twisted corrupt Churches while they were on earth, and will Jesus just ignores them?

The Jesus I imagine wouldn't ignore them, not even if they were in Hell, the Jesus I know wouldn't be that petty. He doesn't care if they screwed up & they're in Hell....He would forgive them and go get them to heaven

Here's a voice of an anti-Christ, without a doubt. Let the people beware.

Berlynn:
Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness?

Believe it or not, I did read the Bible, and I don't recall it actually explicitly stating "Once you are in Hell, you no longer have any chance for forgiveness, for Redemption."

That doesn't seem too Christian lets assume for a moment there's a Hell and some people are down there praying to Jesus, begging for forgiveness, begging to be forgiven for not believing in the twisted corrupt Churches while they were on earth, and will Jesus just ignores them?

The Jesus I imagine wouldn't ignore them, not even if they were in Hell, the Jesus I know wouldn't be that petty. He doesn't care if they screwed up & they're in Hell....He would forgive them and go get them to heaven

The word hell as used in the Bible does not refer to a place of torment. It simply means "the grave"

StunchLord:

God took a resolute decision on our behalf right from the start. Look at the world around you. Death everywhere, hunger, crisis here and there, sickness, deformity e.t.c Is God blind to all these?

No, God does not cause misfortune. They where caused my you and I and the decisions we make everyday of our life's.

I know you will say the devil is responsible for the ills plaguing mankind and he's able to do want he wants with us because we sinned.

No

So, why did God place the apple in the garden and sent satan loose among his creation when he knew that satan will tempt man?

The apple is not literally an apple.

How come satan become possessed by bad thoughts if it wasn't god who manipulated him like the way he did king pharoah and king saul?

Satan is a pre-adamic creature, an angel before the great war that ended up making him a fallen angel, only reason why God didn't destroy him completely was in the hopes that one day satan will be remorseful and apologize for his sins. But pride, etc etc

No thanks. I'd rather pick up the Dan Brown I left yesterday.

Suit yourself.

branhampaul:
Bros Hell Isn't Eternal It Is Only For A Period Of Time Maybe A Billion Years..B'cos Hell Fire Has A Beginning And Also Have To Have An Ending.. God Is A God Of Love & Also A God Of Wrath

lol! Bros can you comprehend a billion years??
can you even bath with water at its boiling point for 1hr?? talk less of burning sulphur for a billion years

I don't know if you are a christian.
Do you remember Noah's story in Genesis 6, the lord destroyed the world with water except Noah's household having warned the people but they were adamant thus refusing to repent of their sins and God's judgement came on them.

The day of Noah was one dispensation while we are now in the dispensation of grace.While grace is available now God can forgive any sin as long as the sinner repents and seeks God's forgiveness. But who ever refuses to repent will born in an unquenchable fire for eternity.

Berlynn:


God is a merciful God why will he let us perish

*HE IS ALSO A CONSUMING FIRE HEBREWS 12:29

have you forgotten how God wiped out the people during Noah's time..... this alone sud be an evidence that God can rilli do according to his words