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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by D34lw4p(op): 7:14pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
Yes.

according to that verse(Psalm 139:16), every thing happening around the world has been pre-planned by him. He created everyone and has planned what each of them will do in life, since it's his will there's no way they can go against it because he claimed he is the All-Knowing and The Most Powerful. Who are we to hold responsible for Evil when you god also said he created "evil"?

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 7:14pm On Oct 02, 2016

D34lw4p:
this people based their belief on what they were told or read in a book and never try to look for the truth!

Tragic!

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 7:15pm On Oct 02, 2016

johnydon22:
Blackmail/Abuse is no less disturbing and nonsensical even if your mother/father plays it.

Doesn't matter who does it Blackmail is still blackmail...

Besides doesn't it seem a bit weird that a whole creator of a vast cosmos relates to almost inexistent humans in such a childish way?

Shouldn't an omniscient entity know a less disturbing, monsterous, evil way to do that?

I'm sorry but nobody is tryna blackmail you.

No. GOD loves us so much. We can't fully understand how much He loves us. Some people reject His love anyway. But living in the presence of sin is enough torture for those who love GOD. That is why GOD will delete sin and sinners from existence so that those who love Him will finally live in peace.

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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 7:20pm On Oct 02, 2016

D34lw4p:
according to that verse(Psalm 139:16), every thing happening around the world has been pre-planned by him. He created everyone and has planned what each of them will do in life, since it's his will there's no way they can go against it because he claimed he is the All-Knowing and The Most Powerful. Who are we to hold responsible for Evil when you god also said he created "evil"?

That is not what Psa. 139:16 is saying. The world as it is right now, disfigured and marred by sin and rebellion, is not going the way GOD planned it. To find out GOD's original plan, go to Genesis 1 and 2.

GOD doesn't plan what people will do in life. GOD did not plan for Stalin to murder millions of people. GOD has given man instructions on how to live. He can choose to obey GOD, he can choose to disobey. But each comes with a consequence.

Psa. 139 as a whole is talking about how GOD knows man in and out, thoroughly, even more than man knows himself. GOD is omniscient.

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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DeSepiero(m): 7:22pm On Oct 02, 2016

johnydon22:
I don't understand this - So you offer someone a kind of salvation and then threaten to torture them if they reject it?

That's blackmail not salvation.

Na this kind yarn dey make parents spread school children money anyhow during those graduation debates grin

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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by D34lw4p(op): 7:29pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
That is not what Psa. 139:16 is saying. The world as it is right now, disfigured and marred by sin and rebellion, is not going the way GOD planned it. To find out GOD's original plan, go to Genesis 1 and 2.

GOD doesn't plan what people will do in life. GOD did not plan for Stalin to murder millions of people. GOD has given man instructions on how to live. He can choose to obey GOD, he can choose to disobey. But each comes with a consequence.

Psa. 139 as a whole is talking about how GOD knows man in and out, thoroughly, even more than man knows himself. GOD is omniscient.

I'm sorry you don't understand that verse. But your god said he created "evil" or you can prove that wrong?

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 7:34pm On Oct 02, 2016

D34lw4p:
I'm sorry you don't understand that verse. But your god said he created "evil" or you can prove that wrong?

LOL. In Psa. 139:16, the Psalmist is filled with awe and reverence for GOD whose knowledge is immeasurable.

GOD did not create evil. He declared His creation "good" and not "evil."

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 7:34pm On Oct 02, 2016

D34lw4p:
Can you torture your child with fire because they failed to obey you?
I know your answer will be No. But your god that created you and knew so well that you're imperfect said he will punish you in a lake of fire because 2 people were deceived to eat an Apple and if you didn't obey him, yet he said he love you!

That sound stupid to me!

if u dont stop thinking stupidly it will continue to sound stupid. Enoch and Elijah went to heaven without death. It is left for a man to prove he is perfect or imperfect, God doesnt decide dat

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by D34lw4p(op): 7:38pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
LOL. In Psa. 139:16, the Psalmist is filled with awe and reverence for GOD whose knowledge is immeasurable.

GOD did not create evil. He declared His creation "good" and not "evil."

what did Isaiah 45:7 say?

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by D34lw4p(op): 7:40pm On Oct 02, 2016

Smallville10:
if u dont stop thinking stupidly it will continue to sound stupid. Enoch and Elijah went to heaven without death. It is left for a man to prove he is perfect or imperfect, God doesnt decide dat

You Believe in Stories lolz...then Santa Claus story is also true. Lol he can fly from house to house and deliver gifts to every good children around the world in one Night.

how do you prove that wrong if you don't try to search for the truth?

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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 7:45pm On Oct 02, 2016

D34lw4p:
what did Isaiah 45:7 say?

I was expecting this. LOL.

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Isa. 45:7.

The evil there denotes "disaster", "calamity". We know that GOD bring disaster/evil on any nation in justice. He can also bring peace on a nation.

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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by D34lw4p(op): 7:56pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
I was expecting this. LOL.

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Isa. 45:7.

The evil there denotes "disaster", "calamity". We know that GOD bring disaster/evil on any nation in justice. He can also bring peace on a nation.

A god of love also claimed evil and he destroyed lots of people lives, the story of egypt where he killed every first born in egypt to prove to their king that he's the most-powerful! That's insane! Lots of lies in the bible! The bible also contradicts itself a lot that it purely shows it wasn't written by people under any spiritual guidance.

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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 7:59pm On Oct 02, 2016

D34lw4p:
A god of love also claimed evil and he destroyed lots of people lives, the story of egypt where he killed every first born in egypt to prove to their god that he's the most-powerful! That's insane! Lots of lies in the bible! The bible also contradicts itself a lot that it purely shows it wasn't written by people under any spiritual guidance.

GOD doesn't destroy good people. He destroys bad, unrepentant people, because they cause nuisance.

If the Bible is filled with lies, why open it again?

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Peacefullove: 8:07pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
What is your question?

what was the punishment of the two people that eat apple , Adam and his wife ? Was it hellfire ?

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Peacefullove: 8:10pm On Oct 02, 2016

Smallville10:
if u dont stop thinking stupidly it will continue to sound stupid. Enoch and Elijah went to heaven without death. It is left for a man to prove he is perfect or imperfect, God doesnt decide dat

that means Paul lied when he said death spread to ALL men ? @ bold

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 8:10pm On Oct 02, 2016

Peacefullove:
what was the punishment of the two people that eat apple , Adam and his wife ? Was it hellfire ?

Their immediate punishment was banishment from Eden, the perfect garden. Then death began to rule over them(man could then die). Suffering followed suit.

However, they rued their mistake and repented and were forgiven. They will be in Heaven.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Peacefullove: 8:14pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
Their immediate punishment was banishment from Eden, the perfect garden. Then death began to rule over them(man could then die). Suffering followed suit.

However, they rued their mistake and repented and were forgiven. They will be in Heaven.

chikaka , see lie ! Prove the bold from your bible ? shocked

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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 8:15pm On Oct 02, 2016

Peacefullove:
chikaka , see lie ! Prove the bold from your bible ?

I don't have to prove anything to you.

By GOD's grace, when I get to Heaven, I'll see Adam.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 8:15pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
Their immediate punishment was banishment from Eden, the perfect garden. Then death began to rule over them(man could then die). Suffering followed suit.

However, they rued their mistake and repented and were forgiven. They will be in Heaven.

This perfect garden you speak of, mind sharing the location so we can actually confirm if the story was literally true...I mean it surely was a physical location on earth right?

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 8:18pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
A father may disown a child if he continues in unrepentant rebellion.

For GOD to continue to tolerate sin and sinners forever, it means that creation will continue to sigh and groan under the burden of sin forever. That is unacceptable

But painful death is not the same as disowning. A disowned child simply has no interaction with the father, a disowned child isn't tortured or killed

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Peacefullove: 8:19pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
I don't have to prove anything to you.

By GOD's grace, when I get to Heaven, I'll see Adam.

Story changed to I don't have to prove anything grin

religion and lies .

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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 8:22pm On Oct 02, 2016

MrMarvelous:
This perfect garden you speak of, mind sharing the location so we can actually confirm if the story was literally true...I mean it surely was a physical location on earth right?

LOL. GOD planted the garden west of Nod(Gen. 4:16). GOD, however, placed Cherubims and a flaming sword which turned every way in the garden to guard the tree of life. So, even if the garden were still on earth, you can't enter there.

Wanna see what the garden looks like? Please GOD and He will take you to that garden in Heaven.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 8:25pm On Oct 02, 2016

Lennycool:
But painful death is not the same as disowning. A disowned child simply has no interaction with the father, a disowned child isn't tortured or killed

As far as sinners still exist anywhere in the Universe, they still interact with GOD's creation, and ultimately with GOD. That's why GOD has to destroy them from existence, so that their presence won't pollute creation again.

Destruction is what they merit for living their lives in unrelenting rebellion against GOD.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 8:27pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
LOL. GOD planted the garden west of Nod(Gen. 4:16). GOD, however, placed Cherubims and a flaming sword which turned every way in the garden to guard the tree of life. So, even if the garden were still on earth, you can't enter there.

Wanna see what the garden looks like? Please GOD and He will take you to that garden in Heaven.

I didn't ask you if I could enter or not, I asked for the location since it was a literal place. If I get a location, I'll travel there because I'd love to see where all life started. Or doesn't that fascinate you?

So I ask again, where's this perfect garden's location on earth? So I can verify the story.

You can actually say you don't know though. Just a tip.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 8:30pm On Oct 02, 2016

MrMarvelous:
This perfect garden you speak of, mind sharing the location so we can actually confirm if the story was literally true...I mean it surely was a physical location on earth right?

Forget physical location sef. Scientist agree with certainty that two people cannot be responsible for the diversity on earth today.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 8:30pm On Oct 02, 2016

MrMarvelous:
I didn't ask you if I could enter or not, I asked for the location since it was a literal place. If I get a location, I'll travel there because I'd love to see where all life started. Or doesn't that fascinate you?

So I ask again, where's this perfect garden's location on earth? So I can verify the story.

You can actually say you don't know though. Just a tip.

The garden was west of Nod. Google the location of ancient Nod and you can be on your way to finding the garden.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 8:32pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
As far as sinners still exist anywhere in the Universe, they still interact with GOD's creation, and ultimately with GOD. That's why GOD has to destroy them from existence, so that their presence won't pollute creation again.

Destruction is what they merit for living their lives in unrelenting rebellion against GOD.

And again you're back to a loving father destroying his children for sin. Your reasons make no sense what soever

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 8:34pm On Oct 02, 2016

Lennycool:
And again you're back to a loving father destroying his children for sin. Your reasons make no sense what soever

Okay.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 8:36pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
The garden was west of Nod. Google the location of ancient Nod and you can be on your way to finding the garden.

So if I get there, I'd still see the tree of life and/or death right? And the cherubim and seraphim guarding the garden of course right? Is this what you're saying?
Just to be clear.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 8:39pm On Oct 02, 2016

MrMarvelous:
So if I get there, I'd still see the tree of life and/or death right? And the cherubim and seraphim guarding the garden of course right? Is this what you're saying?
Just to be clear.

That garden is no longer on earth grin

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 8:44pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
That garden is no longer on earth

Ahhhhhh I see. So what happened to the perfect garden that made it to vanish out of the west of "land of Nod" you just told me to Google? And when did this "vanishing" occur?

Did the land of Nod vanish as well or just the garden and the west part of the "land of Nod"?

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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by D34lw4p(op): 8:45pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
GOD doesn't destroy good people. He destroys bad, unrepentant people, because they cause nuisance.

If the Bible is filled with lies, why open it again?

i'm proving you wrong with your own book!

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