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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 10:44pm On Oct 02, 2016

wirinet:
Salvation na by force? Ok, salvation from who or what? Salvation from God's anger?

Salvation from eternal loss.

No. Salvation is not by force. You can choose to be saved. You can choose to be lost.

It's a choice dear.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 10:49pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
Salvation from eternal loss.

No. Salvation is not by force. You can choose to be saved. You can choose to be lost.

It's a choice dear.

DoctorAlien tell me why there's no evidence for the flood na. Abi you no see my question?

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 10:52pm On Oct 02, 2016

Lennycool:
Chai I don tire.
But one last question and you should think well before providing an answer. Dinosaurs died 65 million years ago, and yet there are still evidence to their existence and even how they died.
Tell me why there is no proof at all to a world wide flood that happened a couple thousand years ago. And please before you start saying there is evidence, I assure you there is not. I've checked. So with that answer my question.

You must answer this question before I answer yours: If dinosaurs are tens of millions of years old, why have scientists found dinosaur bones with soft tissue in them? Even blood vessels and cells? see link here: www.nbcnews.com/id/7285683/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/scientists-recover-t-rex-soft-tissue/#.Us3cl7SmbF0

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 11:06pm On Oct 02, 2016

wirinet:
So you are insinuating that there were no rainbows before the flood, meaning there were no rains before the flood?

People before the flood never saw a rain. GOD had not caused it to rain on earth.(Gen. 2:5-6). Moreover, there is no mention of rain in the Bible up until the flood.

That was why the flooding of the world through rainfall sounded exceptionally stupid to the pre-flood world, just as the destruction of this earth sounds stupid to some.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 11:17pm On Oct 02, 2016

johnydon22,

Nobody will burn forever. The fire of the wrath of GOD will totally destroy Satan and sinners. They will cease to exist.

It is not for me to punish. Vengeance belongs to GOD.

Bro, why overwork yourself over this? You know within your heart that even if GOD came down today just to tell you that He exists, you would dismiss such occurrence as hallucination. Yet GOD did come. About 2000 years ago.

grin

The whole of creation groans under the weight of sin today just because GOD wants to prove to all and sundry that He's not a tyrant, and that loving obedience to Him is in the best interest of His creatures. You know GOD could have quickly destroyed Satan, and sin would not have spread to other creatures. However, it would have made solid Satan's claim that GOD demands worship by force. GOD let creation judge between Him and Satan. This is a mystery.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by johnydon22(m): 11:19pm On Oct 02, 2016

DoctorAlien:
johnydon22,

Nobody will burn forever. The fire of the wrath of GOD will totally destroy Satan and sinners. They will cease to exist.

It is not for me to punish. Vengeance belongs to GOD.

Bro, why overwork yourself over this? You know within your heart that even if GOD came down today just to tell you that He exists, you would dismiss such occurrence as hallucination. Yet GOD did come. About 2000 years ago.

The whole of creation groans under the weight of sin today just because GOD wants to prove to all and sundry that He's not a tyrant, and that loving obedience to Him is in the best interest of His creatures. You know GOD could have quickly destroyed Satan, and sin would not have spread to other creatures. However, it would have made solid Satan's claim that GOD demands worship by force. GOD let creation judge between Him and Satan. This is a mystery.

Overwork? LOL what took some miniscule minutes to type is over work? I could do this with my eyes closed besides i'm not at work at the moment.

well thanks for your concern but next time plead for your religion's exemption from objective scrutiny in a less subtle way.

You have been served, chew over it - take all the time you need.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 11:23pm On Oct 02, 2016

johnydon22:
Overwork? LOL what took some miniscule minutes to type is over work? I could do this with my eyes closed besides i'm not at work at the moment.

well thanks for your concern but next time plead for your religion's exemption from objective scrutiny in a less subtle way.

You have been served, chew over it - take all the time you need.

No. In fact, I beg you to scrutinize my religion all the more objectively.

Perhaps, I pray, in doing so you might find out that it contains the truth.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by analice107: 12:31am On Oct 03, 2016

johnydon22:
I don't understand this - So you offer someone a kind of salvation and then threaten to torture them if they reject it?

That's blackmail not salvation.

I will explain it to you, although you won't accept it.
Its like this...

When Adam died Spiritually in Eden, Humanity followed with men without living spirits.

When Man Fell, he was separated from God. (This was actually Satan's motive for masterminding the fall, to turn man against God, he succeeded).
Right there, a Prophecy of Restoration was given by God, which came to pass in Christ coming to earth to give man life back, it happened.

From then to when Christ will be born, satan took absolute control of man, Man became his slave, against his own good.

From then, anytime God needed to communicate with Humanity, he chooses a man who is inherently good and puts His Holy Spirit in that Vessel, through that vessel, He talks to the people.

Now, Christ Came and raised the dead spirits in us and gave it life, because after here, we shall live again, and it is that Spirit that lives eternally in that plane.

Now, lets cross over to that plane. in the spirit realm where we shall all live as Spirits, Whether we have a renewed/ Rebirthed/regenerated spirit or not, here we shall live forever. The difference is that, some people will be in God's own presence, while some people wont have access to His presence becos they don't have life in their spirits. And without that life, forget it

Hellfire was not originally there, It was created as a result of Lucifer's rebellion, to reward him. And IT WAS NEVER CREATED TO TORTURE MAN.

Now, Men who hold strongly to the ways of satan, rejecting the free gift of eternal life in Christ, have made a choice of following satan to his end in hellfire. Its a personal decision.

The Op for instance is alive, but instead of receiving the free gift offered to him by Christ, he rejects it but resorted to cheap blackmail.

Even you Jon, You have said all manner of stuff against God, you actually feel fulfilled as a renown atheist. As Far as you are concern, if there's a God, you are above it.

You with your sound mind and open eyes rejects the life Christ offers choosing to believe in logic, yet are so hunted by the idea of a loving father torturing his children in hellfire.

He is not sending anyone to Hellfire, you guys are choosing it by yourselves. This has been said a million times with Scriptures to show, but you choose to believe what u want.

When you die and find out you can't access heaven because you do not have the requirement, Will you blame God? If you can't go to heaven there's no where else to go but hellfire with satan, no one will take you there, you'll just go.

If am to sit for an examination and am told what to come along with to qualify me to take the exams, but i tell myself that there's no exams, but go anyways, Howbeit, without the requirements, Will i have access to the examination hall? If am locked out will i blame the examiner? Wont i be termed stupid if i do?

@Ops, Keep blackmailing God with the hope that he might bend his rules to fit your little ego. dream on.

If He did not bend his rules for Jesus his son, he will indeed bend them for you. Clap for yasef.

Now, Listen up, Now is the acceptable time, if you hear his voice calling unto you, harden not your heart as in the time of rebellion.

When you die it will be too late.

This your tantrums won't shake a leave on earth, much less touch a bird in flied in the sky, how then will it reach any Angel in heaven?

Look unto the heavens, and see; and behold the clouds which are higher than thou.
Job:35:5

If thou sinnest, what doest thou against him? or if thy transgressions be multiplied, what doest thou unto him?
Job:35:6

If thou be righteous, what givest thou him? or what receiveth he of thine hand?
Job:35:7

Thy wickedness may hurt a man as thou art; and thy righteousness may profit the son of man.
Job:35:8

None of this stupidity will go beyond your roof.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by analice107: 12:34am On Oct 03, 2016

DoctorAlien:
When my child rebels against me, I proceed to correct him. I can't torture anybody.

Moreover, nobody will burn in hell fire for eternity. GOD will simply destroy sinners with fire and blot them out from existence.

This is also the lie of satan to make sinners think, Well, i will just be burnt out and it ends there. You too have been deceived.
The Fire of hell is unquenchable.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by analice107: 12:35am On Oct 03, 2016

Demigods666:
Ahahahah

Thought he is the all powerful why didn't he just restore sanity?

Your god Na goat my guy, person wen kill him own so called son for una , lmao, shows how cruel.

He can't do without blood and earthly money.

He needs your own money to give you money

Just imagine this, before you give your son money, shey be you ask him to first give you first?

Faulty reasoning.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 12:43am On Oct 03, 2016

analice107:
This is also the lie of satan to make sinners think, Well, i will just be burnt out and it ends there. You too have been deceived.
The Fire of hell is unquenchable.

No dear.

I quite agree that nobody can quench the fire of hell. However, it will go out when it does it work of complete destruction.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Peacefullove: 12:47am On Oct 03, 2016

Smallville10:
how pathetic! So u read d bible?

just answer, Paul lied when he said death spread to ALL men , since some men didn't die ?

Those were perfect men; perfect men dont die . Enoch, Elijah, Jesus...
GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER PERFECT MAN, IF U CAN... I DARE U

Hehehehehe yeye dey smell, if Jesus didn't die . Bible lied ?

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 5:44am On Oct 03, 2016

Peacefullove:
just answer, Paul lied when he said death spread to ALL men , since some men didn't die ?

Hehehehehe yeye dey smell, if Jesus didn't die . Bible lied ?

it seems u dont even have sense to reason, did Jesus not rise from d dead? Why didnt he stay dead?
I asked u for an example of perfect man and u are busy saying nonsense... Thats how athiests behave wheb they know nothing

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 5:55am On Oct 03, 2016

D34lw4p:
Buddha!

look, when u dont know something please dont talk. Buddah was not a man; what do u call someone conceived by sex with demons... His mother had sexual intercours with demons of d himalaya mountains (a notable place for demons) and gave birth to him. Do u call that kind a man?
And next make research sensibly to make a point and not to argue... Buddha die by poison...

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Ahmadgani(m): 6:16am On Oct 03, 2016

if your son slept with your daughter, killed your mother, crippled your father and bombed your house and engaged your 9 month old baby in homo. what will you do? OP

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Peacefullove: 7:14am On Oct 03, 2016

Smallville10:
it seems u dont even have sense to reason, did Jesus not rise from d dead? Why didnt he stay dead?
I asked u for an example of perfect man and u are busy saying nonsense... Thats how athiests behave wheb they know nothing

Then your brain should have said Jesus died and rise , NOT Jesus did not die . maybe you have comprehension issues , " Perfect men dont die " implies he never tasted death.

meanwhile you said Enoch and Elijah didn't see death , and I asked does that mean Paul was lying when he said death spread to [size=27] ALL [/size] men ?

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 8:01am On Oct 03, 2016

Peacefullove:
Then your brain should have said Jesus died and rise , NOT Jesus did not die . maybe you have comprehension issues , " Perfect men dont die " implies he never tasted death.

meanwhile you said Enoch and Elijah didn't see death , and I asked does that mean Paul was lying when he said death spread to [size=27] ALL [/size] men ?

he wasnt suppose to see death if not for d purpose of restoring humanity to grace... This is why u athiests can say shit abt GOD and still be alive

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 8:04am On Oct 03, 2016

Peacefullove:
Then your brain should have said Jesus died and rise , NOT Jesus did not die . maybe you have comprehension issues , " Perfect men dont die " implies he never tasted death.

meanwhile you said Enoch and Elijah didn't see death , and I asked does that mean Paul was lying when he said death spread to [size=27] ALL [/size] men ?

also, paul wasnt lying when he said that...
These men were of perfect nature and chosen by God to ascend into heaven without death. There is death for every man

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Peacefullove: 9:42am On Oct 03, 2016

Smallville10:
also, paul wasnt lying when he said that...
These men were of perfect nature and chosen by God to ascend into heaven without death. There is death for every man

just contradicting yourself and posting nonsense , so Enoch and Elijah are not part of the EVERY man ? ridiculous!!!

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Peacefullove: 9:45am On Oct 03, 2016

Smallville10:
he wasnt suppose to see death if not for d purpose of restoring humanity to grace...

that means he see death , which invalidate your earlier assertion that perfect men don't die . and that make you a liar

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by johnydon22(m): 10:03am On Oct 03, 2016

DoctorAlien:
No. In fact, I beg you to scrutinize my religion all the more objectively.

Perhaps, I pray, in doing so you might find out that it contains the truth.

Oh i did scrutinize it and find it riddled with fables, myths and superstition and a disturbing doctrine someone like me can never respect.

Such idiotic superstitions is an insult to human intellect.

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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 10:21am On Oct 03, 2016

Peacefullove:
that means he see death , which invalidate your earlier assertion that perfect men don't die . and that make you a liar

who can say dat " i will die and rise again after 3days"? there is none. His purpose was to go collect power of humanity freedom from d devil which would take 3days according to earth time. He was a perfect man, a man who gives his life for those who didnt care. That is perfection

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 10:25am On Oct 03, 2016

Peacefullove:
just contradicting yourself and posting nonsense , so Enoch and Elijah are not part of the EVERY man ? ridiculous!!!

ur unintelligence is just beyond me. I thought frank317 was worse but u are worstest. Chai!!!

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 10:30am On Oct 03, 2016

johnydon22:
Oh i did scrutinize it and find it riddled with fables, myths and superstition and a disturbing doctrine someone like me can never respect.

Such idiotic superstitions is an insult to human intellect.

Fine.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by wirinet(m): 10:49am On Oct 03, 2016

DoctorAlien:
Salvation from eternal loss.

No. Salvation is not by force. You can choose to be saved. You can choose to be lost.

It's a choice dear.

What is the meaning of eternal loss? How can one lose what one never had?

You people force down salvation through our throats. We never needed salvation the white man brought salvation by force.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by DoctorAlien(m): 11:03am On Oct 03, 2016

wirinet:
What is the meaning of eternal loss? How can one lose what one never had?

You people force down salvation through our throats. We never needed salvation the white man brought salvation by force.

You can choose to be saved and you can choose to be lost eternally.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Peacefullove: 12:28pm On Oct 03, 2016

Smallville10:
who can say dat " i will die and rise again after 3days"? there is none. His purpose was to go collect power of humanity freedom from d devil which would take 3days according to earth time. He was a perfect man, a man who gives his life for those who didnt care. That is perfection

you are only finding excuses . Jesus die ! this nullify your assertion that perfect men DONT DIE ! seems you don't know the gravity of that statement. liar

show me the bold from your bible ?

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Peacefullove: 12:42pm On Oct 03, 2016

Smallville10:
ur unintelligence is just beyond me. I thought frank317 was worse but u are worstest. Chai!!!

let help your ignorance .

here you claim some Men didn't experience death .

statement 1: " These men were of perfect nature and chosen by God to ascend into heaven without death. "

[size=27] Only to contradict yourself with the next statement [/size]

statement 2: There is death for every man.

smh, EVERY indicate all man , is Enoch and Elijah not men ? you are claiming all man died here which must logically include Enoch and Elijah.

what a big contradiction !

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by D34lw4p(op): 8:38pm On Oct 03, 2016

Smallville10:
look, when u dont know something please dont talk. Buddah was not a man; what do u call someone conceived by sex with demons... His mother had sexual intercours with demons of d himalaya mountains (a notable place for demons) and gave birth to him. Do u call that kind a man?
And next make research sensibly to make a point and not to argue... Buddha die by poison...

congratulation you just got an award for dumbest reply on Nairaland.

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 12:22am On Oct 04, 2016

johnydon22:
Oh i did scrutinize it and find it riddled with fables, myths and superstition and a disturbing doctrine someone like me can never respect.

Such idiotic superstitions is an insult to human intellect.

agnosticism is the view that human reason is still incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify either the belief that God exists or the belief that God does not exist.can you atleast be an agnostic,atheism to me relies on group thinking,so u ridiculing religious beliefs is like the case of a "pot calling the kettle black"

Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by Nobody: 12:31am On Oct 04, 2016

you guys(atheist) should stop attacking religious beliefs,scientists still question themselves "why are we here" nobody is perfect yet we still have a lot to learn that's why we research everyday,probably one day human reasoning would have developed to the point of really understanding the origin of the universe,the big bang is jus a stated theory we all grew up believing,who saw or witnessed it,none, same as religious beliefs.let us jus live in peace nd respect one another beliefs.

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Re: Every Religious People Pls Answer This Question by johnydon22(m): 7:22am On Oct 04, 2016

knightling3:
agnosticism is the view that human reason is still incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify either the belief that God exists or the belief that God does not exist.can you atleast be an agnostic,atheism to me relies on group thinking,so u ridiculing religious beliefs is like the case of a "pot calling the kettle black"

Agnosticism more so is the position that the eventuality of god(s) is unknown either in principle or in fact ..

I'm an agnostic alright but going by that definition it also means that an agnostic do not buy the claims of God(s) abound and that broadly makes agnosticism a diluted atheism.

So i'm a typical agnostic atheist, i only get blunt when faced with arrogant naivete and ignorance

And secondly no idea, i repeat no idea should be exempted from criticism and ridicule not even science begs to be exempted from these.
Religious people propagate beliefs unsupported by any iota of evidence anywhere, in the bus, school, street, home to home, churches and mosque at every corner of the country, tv, radio - virtually everywhere.

Simply because someone uses the small niche provided by the internet to speak against these beliefs, myths and superstition, you aim for them to be silenced?

If i'm to remain silent i'd be guilty of complicity - I do not care what people believe and worship, they can worship a stone that is there business but once you start infringing into my space, telling me how to live so as not to offend your stone, running the government with regards to your stone, throwing it at children in school, smearing it on my face in buses or in the street, bringing it to my home almost every week, disturbiny my sleep every morning then we have a problem.

I will throw that stone back at you.

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