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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 7:30am On Oct 03, 2016
solite3

Some apostates believe hell does not exist now.




Hehehehe , analice107 is an apostate . grin

why not answer this , if such a place exist why is it that none of those who died and were raised by Jesus in your own bible give tales of hell ?

Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Wilgrea7(m): 8:03am On Oct 03, 2016
Aaronsrod:

He will not let you perish. You will burn. Eternally.
oga sharap abeg
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Wilgrea7(m): 8:07am On Oct 03, 2016
Smallville10:
Even at d seat of judgment GOD will show mercy

bro u r right.. but God will only show mercy to those who show others mercy
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 8:12am On Oct 03, 2016
Wilgrea7:


bro u r right.. but God will only show mercy to those who show others mercy
finally someone sayin something reasonable
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Wilgrea7(m): 8:29am On Oct 03, 2016
Smallville10:
finally someone sayin something reasonable

bro don't mind them... they claim they know yet they don't study the bible. mercy prevaileth against judgement. mercy is given to those who give mercy.. God is just
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by agentofchange1(m): 8:41am On Oct 03, 2016
Berlynn:
Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness?

Believe it or not, I did read the Bible, and I don't recall it actually explicitly stating "Once you are in Hell, you no longer have any chance for forgiveness, for Redemption."

That doesn't seem too Christian lets assume for a moment there's a Hell and some people are down there praying to Jesus, begging for forgiveness, begging to be forgiven for not believing in the twisted corrupt Churches while they were on earth, and will Jesus just ignores them?

The Jesus I imagine wouldn't ignore them, not even if they were in Hell, the Jesus I know wouldn't be that petty. He doesn't care if they screwed up & they're in Hell....He would forgive them and go get them to heaven


Hello dear , I once thought of this too but sad to say , God cannot lie , he can't change/bend his standards for any man .

Psalms 9:17

" The sinners shall be turn into hell and all the nations that forget God.



We shouldn't be thinking of been forgiven or if any such chance exist in the first place rather we should on our parts do what the scriptures comands ( " love the lord thy God ,with all thy heart, with all thy might and with all thy Soul "wink .

You see My dear , no amount of cry or plead can save a soul from hell , he /she is doomed for ever .

If God now allow Sinners from hell to come to heaven with their dirty hearts. ( killers , liars , thiefs , cheats. E.t c ) how do you think heaven would look like , don't you think its will be unfair been that other folks who all their live strived , obeyed the word of God was faithful to him and loved him and through his grace they made it to heaven .?

Those in hell crying for mercy and forgiveness are doing so only because the horrible toture they are Experiencing. Not because they are truely remorseful about the their deeds not because they really love God. Its all because of fear not love. . The bible says thou shall. LOVE THE LORD THY GOD .... NOT THY SHALL FEAR THE LORD THY GOD ......

ITS NOT EASY TO ENTER HEAVEN , ITS SO TOUGH ,

After accepting him (Jesus) into your heart as lord and savior , surrender ALL to him , pray for a willing heart to summit And to love him always, to Put God above. Anything. In this world. ..then keep on in this fashion. .. till he comes to take you home......


I pray and desire to see you in heaven dear , lets strife together ....and by his grace we shall make it ...AMEN.!!

God bless you..

#shalom

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 9:28am On Oct 03, 2016
Wilgrea7:


bro don't mind them... they claim they know yet they don't study the bible. mercy prevaileth against judgement. mercy is given to those who give mercy.. God is just
thank u. True... I hope they study d bible more and not read it
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by NnaNna4(m): 10:48am On Oct 03, 2016
Peacefullove:



where in your bible is the bold sef ?





Hebrew 10:5
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 12:15pm On Oct 03, 2016
happydavies:
I just dey laugh u
why? Wetin I do?
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by dolphinheart(m): 12:41pm On Oct 03, 2016
Let us scrutinise what you posted

just4now:
LETTER TO THE BRETHREN

The question the brother raised is an intelligent and mind boggling one. It shows he's very conversant with his Bible. He is very right but the perverts will always object sound knowledge.

Hell is a place of abode and suffering for souls who reject and live in disobedience to God directives and instructions.
job said :
Douay-Rheims Bible(job 14: 13)
Who will grant me this, that thou mayest protect me in hell, and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a. time when thou wilt remember me?

All believers who refuse to learn obedience while on earth will have to go to hell to learn it because God doesn't want rebellion in Heaven again.
if disobedient believers go to hell, where do unbelievers who are not disobedient go. Secondly where do believers who are obedient go if not hell

My heart aches for fellow believers who ignore truth of the Bible rather they prefers lies told by satanic pastors.

On judgment day hell will vomit all the occupants to face the Judge of the universe whose judgment will hinge on love of brethren ("what you have done to anyone who believes in me you have done to me" ) while disobedience is hell judged
King James Version
Re 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

pls explain the bolded above, does it mean that everyone does not go hell , that some go to the sea and some to death? does it mean that those who die at sea do not go to hell?

This is the only proof to prove If you are a true Christian because if you are a genuine believer you would have known the basis of Christianity which is "LOVE ONE ANOTHER".

If you fail this test here on earth and die you are doom eternally straight to the lake of fire on the day of judgment because to fail this means you are an hypocrite not a Christian. This is second death.

Therefore hell is not eternal it's just a holding place for infidels and believers who disobey divine instructions given to them throughout their lives.
but that holding place will also be thrown into the lake of fire, why?

They never learn obedience through things they suffered this speaks volumes of why God forgives sins but not it's consequences. Through the consequences you suffer you are to learn not to disobey again but failure to learn is catastrophic.

But if they choose not to learn from the consequences of their sins, they must inevitably learn it in hell by suffering terribly in the hands of taskmasters the demons.
can you provide verses that surr port your assumption of demons being task masters in hell?

I employ, if you want to escape hell altogether when you hear His voice harden not your heart rather obey Him thus you may enter His rest otherwise there is no rest for you after death.

If you are a good Bible scholar you will observe l intentionally avoid quoting any Scripture verses yet spoke to you through them, go and do research you will find how l connected the verses to talk to you.

Hell is a terrible place to go, l plead, please avoid it like a plague. It's a domain of Satan, no love there, it's a place of cruelty and torment.
can you provide some verses for me to read, expecially the one that states hell is Satan's domain?

Learn to obey and follow directions of the Holy Spirit never do anything without hearing from God once he's spoken please obey Him that's how to be led by Holy Spirit. Christian are supposed to be spiritual don't tell me you can't hear His voice meaning you don't have Him or you are lazy.

Start cleaning and clearing the clog in your life by prayer and fasting start slow one day a week then increase it to twice a week. You will find you've missed a lot.

I wish above all that you prosper in your soul.

Shalom.
pls ill like to ask, what goes to hell, is it the spirit, body or soul, 2 of the three mentioned or the whole three. pls if the 3 don't go to hell, where does the rest go?
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 12:50pm On Oct 03, 2016
NnaNna4:

Hebrew 10:5



sorry, how does this correlate with the lady's position about those in hellfire been given a new body . a blatant lie she can't defend. ?



or you telling me Jesus in that Hebrew 10 vs 5 was in hellfire and a body was prepared for him ? undecided


Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 12:58pm On Oct 03, 2016
Psam91:


No, God does not cause misfortune. They where caused my you and I and the decisions we make everyday of our life's.

No

What about barren women (I'm not referring to those who had their fallopian tubes removed halfway), and children suffering from various disabilities? What of blind Bathemeus in the bible who was blind from birth? Please I need a good explanation to that effect.


The apple is not literally an apple.


Then What was it? It was not an apple, but a fruit still, right? Cause I read the tree God commanded them to not eat of its fruit was in the middle of the garden and I don't remember the writer saying that portion of the bible was in a figurative sense.

Satan is a pre-adamic creature, an angel before the great war that ended up making him a fallen angel, only reason why God didn't destroy him completely was in the hopes that one day satan will be remorseful and apologize for his sins. But pride, etc etc

This is not the answer to my question. Perharps you didn't get it. But I'll put it to you again, since all of heavens and its beings were holy, how could lucifer conceive wrong thoughts? And why does it have to be satan? Is God so stupid that he didn't reckon the possibility of satan corrupting humans, after all he left satan to roam free? Or he lacked the ability to see the future? What kind of a God is he?

Suit yourself.
Yeah.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 1:04pm On Oct 03, 2016
thunderbabs:


S..tunchLord, attending church services regularly is no criterion for heaven, being law abiding to man-made laws is nt a criterion either. It is only if you are totally obedient to God's words till death take you away. If you are an atheist or a staunch sinner, you must ve heard the truth abt God, holiness, heaven and hell. Bro, you ve no excuse at all. If you die in sin, benchwarmer in church or non-goer, law-abiding or not, atheist or not, if you Die in ur Sin, Hell is as sure as Death. Snap out of those thoughts you brainwashed yourself with.

If you a xtian, have you studied d Bible to know how to live a life worthy of heaven or perhaps, u a muslim, study d quran
Lol. I no fit laugh abeg. Was John the baptist not obedient enough?
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by oaroloye(m): 2:34pm On Oct 03, 2016
SHALOM!

Eazybay:



Pls can u recommend ANY books?? I would love to follow up... Online books. Am waiting

DON'T ssek BOOKS- seek YAHSHUA!

. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. This Book of the Law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way Prosperous, and then thou shalt have Good Success."


. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. This Book of the Law
hall not depart out of thy mouth;
but thou shalt meditate therein day and night,
that thou mayest observe to do
according to all that is written therein:
for then thou shalt make thy way Prosperous,
and then thou shalt have Good Success."

. PSALM 1:1-6.

Blessed is the man
that walketh not
in the Counsel of the Ungodly,
nor standeth in the Way of Sinners,
nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful.
2. But his delight is in The Law of The LORD;
and in His Law doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree
planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
4. The Ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff
which the wind driveth away.
5.Therefore the Ungodly
shall not stand in The Judgment,
nor Sinners in the Congregation of the Righteous.
6. For The LORD knoweth the Way of the Righteous:
but the Way of the Ungodly shall perish.

. PSALM 119:97-105.

97. [MEM.] O how love I Thy Law!
It is my Meditation all the day.
98. Thou through Thy Commandments
hast made me Wiser than mine enemies:
for They are ever with me.
99.I have more Understanding
than all my teachers
for Thy Testimonies are my Meditation.
100. I understand more than the Ancients,
because I keep Thy Precepts.
101. I have refrained my feet
from every Evil Way,
that I might keep Thy Word.
102. I have not departed from Thy Judgments:
for Thou hast Taught me.
103. How sweet are Thy Words unto my taste!
Yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth!
104. Through Thy Precepts I get Understanding:
therefore I hate every False Way.
105. [NUN.] Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet,
and a light unto my path.

Former Full Gospel Preacher, KENNETH COPELAND once told this Testimony
of ORAL ROBERTS, that he once prayed:

"How can I know Jesus?"

He was answered:

"READ MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN,
AND THE BOOK OF ACTS-
-THREE TIMES IN THIRTY DAYS!"


He did it on his knees.

At the end of the thirty days, he testified,
he knew Jesus better than he knew any man
on the Face of the Earth!
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by oaroloye(m): 2:54pm On Oct 03, 2016
SHALOM!

Peacefullove:




Hehehehe , analice107 is an apostate . grin

why not answer this , if such a place exist why is it that none of those who died and were raised by Jesus in your own bible give tales of hell ?



HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE WHILE THEIR BODIES WERE DEAD?

. JOHN 12:9-11.

9. Much people of the Jews
therefore knew that he was there:
and they came not for Jesus' sake only,
but that they might see Lazarus also,
whom he had raised from the dead.
10. But the chief priests consulted
that they might put Lazarus also to death;
11. Because that by reason of him
many of the Jews went away,
and Believed on Jesus.

A PERSON WHO HAS A SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE INVOLVING GREATER POWER THAN THEY POSSESS, THEMSELVES, ON EARTH CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT EXPERIENCE.

To access those memories, you have to access that same Spiritual Power Level again.

This is what LUCID DREAMING Training is for.

[See: THE SECOND RING OF POWER, by Carlos Castaneda
THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]

THE BIBLE is from THE TRUE RELIGION: instead of diverting attention from the main character with trivial details about every person Healed, Exorcised, or Raised from the Dead, The Bible just BOOKMARKS Events.

If you need to know more, you ask Yahweh God to show you incidents in the Time Period in question.

. JOHN 16:12-15.

12 “I have yet many Things
to say unto you,
but ye cannot bear them now.
13. "However when He,
The Spirit of Truth,
is come,
He will guide you into all Truth;
for He shall not speak of Himself,
but whatsoever He shall hear,
(that) shall He speak;
and He will show you
Things to come.
14. "He shall glorify Me,
for He shall receive of Mine,
and shall shew (it) unto you.
15. "All Things
that The Father hath
are Mine;
therefore I said

'THAT HE SHALL TAKE OF MINE,
AND SHALL SHEW (IT) UNTO YOU.' "
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by oaroloye(m): 4:11pm On Oct 03, 2016
SHALOM!

pr0blem:
LOOOL. Anytime I read oaroloye's input on religious posts, I just chuckle. LOOOL

WHERE DID YAHSHUA TEACH HIS DISCIPLES TO LAUGH AT OTHERS?

. LUKE 6:20-26.

20. And he lifted up his eyes
on his Disciples,
and Said,
"Blessed be ye Poor:
for yours is
The Kingdom of God.
21. "Blessed are ye
that hunger now:
for ye shall be filled.
Blessed are ye that weep now:
for ye shall laugh.
22. "Blessed are ye,
when men shall hate you,
and when they shall
separate you from their company,
and shall reproach you,
and cast out
your name as Evil,
for the Son of Man's sake.
23. "Rejoice ye in that day,
and leap for Joy:
for, behold, your Reward
is Great in Heaven:
for in the like manner
did their fathers
unto The Prophets.
24. "But woe unto you
that are rich!
For ye have received
your Consolation.
25. "Woe unto you that are full!
For ye shall hunger.
Woe unto you that laugh now!
For ye shall mourn and weep.
26. "Woe unto you,
when all men shall
speak well of you!
For so did their fathers
to the False Prophets."

IT WOULD BE A GREAT SHAME ON ME, IF IGNORANT DUNCES, SUCH AS YOURSELF, WERE TO PRAISE ME!

The audacity is quite ridiculous sir. I'm not sorry for putting it out to you. The revelation(s)/understanding of scripture is not exclusive to you.

[size=48pt]PROVE IT![/size]

DON'T JUST TALK RUBBISH.

If you have Knowledge SHOW PEOPLE, that they may BENEFIT!

If you know any other valid Teacher, TELL US THEIR NAMES!

Whom have you helped, railingly accusing your Elder and Better?

Where are your websites?

How many Forums and Groups have you been kicked out of?

How many Death-Threats have you received?

You really need to take doses of chill pills

People are DYING, because they don't know what I know.

You say "TAKE DOSES OF CHILL PILLS?"

Where would you be today, if the martyrs of the past had just "TAKEN DOSES OF CHILL-PILLS?"

I am not doing this to make MYSELF comfortable- but to make THOSE WORTHY comfortable.

You are UNWORTHY.

. Even Paul said we know in parts, and our visions are as like a smoky screen.

That is HIS Knowledge, and YOUR Knowledge.

Paul's Vision and YOUR Vision.

Not MY Knowledge, and not MY Vision.

You say you speak with knowledge, what exactly do you even know? really?

Hey, I'm only 56 years old- what the Hell could I POSSIBLY know?

THE TEN TALENTS. (Matthew 25:1-46.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. ETERNAL LIFE.


. THE NINE TIME VECTORS. Geoffrey Filbert.

PAST to PAST; PAST to PRESENT; PAST to FUTURE.
PRESENT to PAST; PRESENT to PRESENT; PRESENT to FUTURE.
FUTURE to PAST; FUTURE to PRESENT; FUTURE to FUTURE.


All things that live are fed by Living Energy that comes to the Earth through seven Realms collectively called HEAVEN.

All things that Exist are made of Living Data, that look like fibres of Living Light. These would be THE WORDS OF GOD. Attempts to analyze them deeply KILLS MORTAL SEERS on the spot.

These light fibres never occur alone, but form CLUSTERS which are group together to form BANDS. Bands are grouped into GREAT BANDS.

The whole Earth is made up of BANDS of Spiritual Energy. These Bands occur in association with one another, called GREAT BANDS.

This Life Energy has three types consistent with Plants, with Insects, and with Animals.

BANDS contained in rigid containers called RECEPTACLES make specific "Non-Living" OBJECTS.

BAND contained in flexible containers called COCOONS make specific LIVING THINGS.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]

FORTY GREAT SPIRITUAL ENERGY BANDS feed "Non-Living" structures in the Earth.

. THE 40 LEVELS OF AWARENESS.

40. SERENITY
30. POSTULATES
22. GAMES
20. ACTION
8.0 EXHILARATION
6.0 AESTHETICS

4.0 ENTHUSIASM
3.5 CHEERFULNESS
3.0 CONSERVATION
2.5 BOREDOM

2.0 OVERT HOSTILITY
1.8 PAIN
1.5 ANGER
1.4 HATE
1.2 NO SYMPATHY
1.1 COVERT HOSTILITY
1.0 FEAR
0.9 SYMPATHY
0.5 GRIEF
0.1 APATHY
0.0 BODY DEATH.

. THE EIGHT DYNAMICS.

1. SELF; 2. FAMILY; 3. GROUPS; 4. ALL MANKIND; 5. ALL LIVING THINGS; 6. THE MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, Time - PHYSICAL) UNIVERSE; 7. SPIRITS; 8. GOD.

. AWARENESS LEVELS REQUIRED TO COMMAND THE DYNAMICS.

8. SELF; 12. GROUPS; 15. ALL MANKIND; 22. MEST UNIVERSE; 32. SPIRITS; 40. GOD.

. THE SIX LEVELS OF EXISTENCE.

1. BELIEFS; 2. THOUGHTS; 3. WORDS; 4. PHYSICAL ACTIONS; 5. POSTULATES; 6. TOTAL UNDERSTANDING.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.
SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard.
THE DYNAMICS & TONE SCALE, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

You have no understanding of Love,

ON THE CONTRARY, I AM THE GREATEST AUTHORITY ON "LOVE" PRESENT AT THIS TIME.

The Ancient Greek Language had TWELVE DIFFERENT WORDS the last English Barbarians called "LOVE."

The only one YOUR ILK know, EROS: ROMANTIC LOVE, is the only one not used in the New Testament.

[See my Blog: LOVE: DISAMBIGUATION AND CLARIFICATION.]

and you think your knowledge is on feet?

HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH THAT ALLEGATION?

You better look down and check again, Mr. Knowledge. Just come here to drop monotonous long posts

My Knowledge cannot do you any good, since you are not worthy.

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH trains its Undercover Operatives to disrupt Christian Gatherings.

If everybody here is okay with you slandering and reviling me, they must all be Vatican Servants.

Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 4:53pm On Oct 03, 2016
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE WHILE THEIR BODIES WERE DEAD?

. JOHN 12:9-11.

9. Much people of the Jews
therefore knew that he was there:
and they came not for Jesus' sake only,
but that they might see Lazarus also,
whom he had raised from the dead.
10. But the chief priests consulted
that they might put Lazarus also to death;
11. Because that by reason of him
many of the Jews went away,
and Believed on Jesus.

A PERSON WHO HAS A SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE INVOLVING GREATER POWER THAN THEY POSSESS, THEMSELVES, ON EARTH CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT EXPERIENCE.

To access those memories, you have to access that same Spiritual Power Level again.

This is what LUCID DREAMING Training is for.

[See: THE SECOND RING OF POWER, by Carlos Castaneda
THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]

THE BIBLE is from THE TRUE RELIGION: instead of diverting attention from the main character with trivial details about every person Healed, Exorcised, or Raised from the Dead, The Bible just BOOKMARKS Events.

If you need to know more, you ask Yahweh God to show you incidents in the Time Period in question.

. JOHN 16:12-15.

12 “I have yet many Things
to say unto you,
but ye cannot bear them now.
13. "However when He,
The Spirit of Truth,
is come,
He will guide you into all Truth;
for He shall not speak of Himself,
but whatsoever He shall hear,
(that) shall He speak;
and He will show you
Things to come.
14. "He shall glorify Me,
for He shall receive of Mine,
and shall shew (it) unto you.
15. "All Things
that The Father hath
are Mine;
therefore I said

'THAT HE SHALL TAKE OF MINE,
AND SHALL SHEW (IT) UNTO YOU.' "

This crap again ! . grin grin

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 5:54pm On Oct 03, 2016
Peacefullove:




Hehehehe , analice107 is an apostate . grin

why not answer this , if such a place exist why is it that none of those who died and were raised by Jesus in your own bible give tales of hell ?


not everybody is permitted to give such account. Paul had a revelation of the third heaven he wasn't allowed to share. If you think that once you die you no longer exist you are the most pitied of all creatures! Let me leave more verses about hell fire for you.


Psalms 140:10 Let burning coals fall upon them: let them be cast into the fire; into deep pits, that they rise not up again.

Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 5:51am On Oct 04, 2016
solite3:
not everybody is permitted to give such account. Paul had a revelation of the third heaven he wasn't allowed to share. If you think that once you die you no longer exist you are the most pitied of all creatures!

Let me leave more verses about hell fire for you.


Psalms 140:10 Let burning coals fall upon them: let them be cast into the fire; into deep pits, that they rise not up again.

Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Matthew 25:41 [b] Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:







you didn't answer the question . if this is what you can come up with , I seriously shake my head for your shallow reasoning . OGA, am not asking about revelation pleaseeeeeeee! a person seeing revelation ain't dead .

[size=28] For those who had actually died that's experience , if such a place exist . why is it that NONE , I repeat NONE of those who died and were raised by Jesus, in your bible give a tale of hell ?

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Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 5:55am On Oct 04, 2016
olacool1000000:
If you don't understand the bible, ask God to direct you and stop misinterpreting what is written..
God has given you a second chance to live by sending His only begotten son to die for your sins yet no satisfaction.... Those that are in hell are not livin eternal life . Dat is the second death... See the word death...


you people always think everyone is a fool .

tell me in simple English, what is eternal life ? properly define that and we will see if those in your imaginary hell won't have eternal life too grin

Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by pr0blem: 7:27am On Oct 04, 2016
Sunglow:
Everybody have been saved LEGALLY, BUT EACH AND EVERY SOUL NEEDS TO ACCEPT THAT SALVATION VITALLY.

Now if any SOUL rejcts the Salavation wrought in Christ, and eventually dies, that SOUL will go to hell, not as a result of their SINS cos their SINS has been taken care of, but as a result of NOT ACCEPTING SALAVATION IN CHRIST.

God gave up His, sent Him to hell that we should not end up in hell, but if one refuses the offer God has proposed in Christ, then hell shall be their eternity.

God is too good, and SALAVATION in Christ is the antantidote for the Sinner Man.

No other way.

It deeply grieves me to see and know people think this way. To think that what God did for mankind is an OFFER to be accepted. Who the blessed taught us so? What on earth is LEGAL and VITAL Salvation? Are you one of them apologetics too?

Salvation is not an OFFER, otherwise, it is reduced do something that can be "rejected". However, if considered from the angle of a signed CONTRACT (the blood of Jesus being the Seal), the it's only to be REALIZED.

So, does one's not realizing this make God's PERFECT FINISHED WORK in Christ for the World ineffective? Naaaah! Check out Romans again, you'll see Paul making it the more clear which is the most significant and eternally important realities (Legal or Vital).

Does the clay say to the Potter, why hath thou made me so?
The clays RECEIVING shape and size is in the Potter's GIVING it.
Is the Potter thus raping the Clay? Ask Paul.

Have you ever heard in this life that the baby in a Pregnant woman was either accepting or rejecting the Mother's love? Legal or vital reality. Otherwise, I don't think you seem to understand God's connection with man. EVERYTHING PERTAINING TO SALVATION IS GOD, All God. There's not one thing Man did or will do to make it any more EFFECTIVE than it already is.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by pr0blem: 9:02am On Oct 04, 2016
oaroloye

WHERE DID YAHSHUA TEACH HIS DISCIPLES TO LAUGH AT OTHERS?

. LUKE 6:20-26.

20. And he lifted up his eyes
on his Disciples,
and Said,
"Blessed be ye Poor:
for yours is
The Kingdom of God.
21. "Blessed are ye
that hunger now:
for ye shall be filled.
Blessed are ye that weep now:
for ye shall laugh.
22. "Blessed are ye,
when men shall hate you,
and when they shall
separate you from their company,
and shall reproach you,
and cast out
your name as Evil,
for the Son of Man's sake.
23. "Rejoice ye in that day,
and leap for Joy:
for, behold, your Reward
is Great in Heaven:
for in the like manner
did their fathers
unto The Prophets.
24. "But woe unto you
that are rich!
For ye have received
your Consolation.
25. "Woe unto you that are full!
For ye shall hunger.
Woe unto you that laugh now!
For ye shall mourn and weep.
26. "Woe unto you,
when all men shall
speak well of you!
For so did their fathers
to the False Prophets."

IT WOULD BE A GREAT SHAME ON ME, IF IGNORANT DUNCES, SUCH AS YOURSELF, WERE TO PRAISE ME!

You and I know that you have very well misconstrued that passage, now, who is the IGNORANT DUNCE? Your Yahshua taught you not to laugh and not to get rich, but very well taught you to call people names. I see! O ye paragon of knowledge. Such Immaturity!



[size=48pt]PROVE IT![/size]

DON'T JUST TALK RUBBISH.

If you have Knowledge SHOW PEOPLE, that they may BENEFIT!

If you know any other valid Teacher, TELL US THEIR NAMES!

Whom have you helped, railingly accusing your Elder and Better?

Where are your websites?

How many Forums and Groups have you been kicked out of?

How many Death-Threats have you received?

Sigh! Accolades. You're no different from a worldly man, yours is just for spiritual things. I wouldn't satisfy you by stooping so low. I have nothing to prove with you. Your Yahshua didn't go asking the Pharisees that challenged him such ridiculous questions. You have a lot to learn from your Yahshua, really!

With your responses, revelation(s)/understanding of scriptures are not at all exclusive to you. In fact, one should be most careful of you.


People are DYING, because they don't know what I know.

You say "TAKE DOSES OF CHILL PILLS?"

Where would you be today, if the martyrs of the past had just "TAKEN DOSES OF CHILL-PILLS?"

I am not doing this to make MYSELF comfortable- but to make THOSE WORTHY comfortable.

You are UNWORTHY.

Hahahaa! I very well appreciate your complement. O Worthy ONE! You do not only misunderstand scriptures, you also misunderstand statements made by people to you, I wonder how your folks cope.



That is HIS Knowledge, and YOUR Knowledge.

Paul's Vision and YOUR Vision.

Not MY Knowledge, and not MY Vision.

Alright then sir. Thank You. I see my post obviously wasn't to and for you. I'm sorry for making wrong assumptions that you had partial knowledge, and you possibly couldn't ever be wrong about a thing.


Hey, I'm only 56 years old- what the Hell could I POSSIBLY know?

You don't say!

Of what use is your age to do with me? Your Yahshua was merely 12 when he posed to be a problem to people your age. Of what use was their age to him?


ON THE CONTRARY, I AM THE GREATEST AUTHORITY ON "LOVE" PRESENT AT THIS TIME.

The Ancient Greek Language had TWELVE DIFFERENT WORDS the last English Barbarians called "LOVE."

The only one YOUR ILK know, EROS: ROMANTIC LOVE, is the only one not used in the New Testament.

[See my Blog: LOVE: DISAMBIGUATION AND CLARIFICATION.]

Guy! Shift abeeg.


HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH THAT ALLEGATION?

Pride comes before a fall, knowledge puffs up. You are very well puffed up, and you don't know it. You are 56 doesn't mean the rest of us don't have a brain. 56 doesn't mean brain, doesn't mean sh!t bro. My allegations about you aren't wrong, and they weren't even allegations in the first place, they were merely (Concluded) observations. And dude! Your reply just proved all to be TRUE.


My Knowledge cannot do you any good, since you are not worthy.

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH trains its Undercover Operatives to disrupt Christian Gatherings.

If everybody here is okay with you slandering and reviling me, they must all be Vatican Servants.

And because you are 56, and a paragon of knowledge, it is now you who dictates who is worthy? LOOOL. Now, I see where your hate is coming from. Your beef is not with me, it's with the Pope and his people.

And please STFU! Nobody is slandering and reviling you. Bring yourself out of the sh!thole self-pity you're trying to put yourself in. Nobody is buying it.

Sigh! Dude, you need help! You're seriously suffering from PARANOIA, almost PTS if you ask me.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Justmary06(f): 2:47pm On Oct 04, 2016
dolphinheart:

where did you get that
1. There souls will be trapped inbetween,
2. In between what and what will their soul be trapped
3. what is the name of the place where their soul will be trapped.
4. If souls are not in hell until judgement, then the story of the rich man is not literal, cus he was in hell when he was talking about his brothers who are still alI've.

your theory is leaking badly

5. what do you understand by what that verse said.
6. what happens to the dragon after that little while.

No, that's not what I meant. I believe you are familiar with the book of Revelation and that was the reason I actually quoted that chapter (wanted to know if she actually read the Book). Anyway, right there in Rev 20 After the dragon (who happen to b satan) was thrown into the well of Abyss and sealed, then released and thrown into the lake fire - where the Beast and the false prophet was previously thrown. Then the judgement

"I saw a Great White Throne and the One Enthroned. Nothing could stand before or against the Presence, nothing in Heaven, nothing on earth. And then I saw all the dead, great and small, standing there—before the Throne! And books were opened. Then another book was opened: the Book of Life. The dead were judged by what was written in the books, by the way they had lived. SEA released its dead, DEATH and HELL (aka HADES) turned in their dead. Each man and woman was judged by the way he or she had lived. Then Death and Hell (Hades) were hurled into Lake Fire. This is the second death—Lake Fire. Anyone whose name was not found inscribed in the Book of Life was hurled into Lake Fire.
Revelation 20:11-15 MSG

That's what I meant by in between. Souls which are currently neither resting nor mortally alive. Souls that are trapped with Death and Hades. We all would be judged at the same time which is way after:

The opening of the seven seal (The SIXTH, tribulations where only 144,000 were sealed on their forehead and excluded REV 7)

The sound of the seven trumpet where those who were saved from tribulation would be excluded (The SIXTH, Horsemen armies who killed a third of human race and The Two witnesses REV 9 and REV 11)

The wrath of the Dragon who transfer authority to The Beast from the sea who "was permitted to make war on God’s holy people and conquer them. It held absolute sway over all tribes and peoples, tongues and races. Everyone on earth whose name was not written from the world’s foundation in the slaughtered Lamb’s Book of Life will worship the Beast." REV 13 vs 7-8 then the false prophet who give the markings of the beast name. Actually there is a riddle in that passage...to figure out the meaning of the mark Rev 13 vs 18 "Solve a riddle: Put your heads together and figure out the meaning of the number of the Beast. It’s a human number: 666."

The seven angels with seven disasters (The SIXTH, Armageddon REV 16)

Finally, The fall of the Babylon (the great city, which reigns over and dominates and controls the kings and the political leaders of the earth. REV 18), Doom of the Beast (Antichrist) and false prophet REV 19, The millennial Reign where the thousand years when Devil will be sealed in the Well of Abyss, the souls of believers slain for Christ would reign with him and the unbelievers will remain Dead REV 20 vs 4-5, then the Final Rebellion and Lastly The Final JUDGMENT. I just summarized Revelation for you and I hope you will understand what I mean better now.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 3:58pm On Oct 04, 2016
Peacefullove:






you didn't answer the question . if this is what you can come up with , I seriously shake my head for your shallow reasoning . OGA, am not asking about revelation pleaseeeeeeee! a person seeing revelation ain't dead .

[size=28] For those who had actually died that's experience , if such a place exist . why is it that NONE , I repeat NONE of those who died and were raised by Jesus, in your bible give a tale of hell ?

[/size]


Its a pity!
Do you know if they saw hell?
Not all things were written down!
The bible already contain a true life story about hell fire ( Lazarus and the rich man)!
I am not arguing this with you any further.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Peacefullove: 6:46pm On Oct 04, 2016
solite3:
Its a pity!
Do you know if they saw hell?
Not all things were written down!

The bible already contain a true life story about hell fire ( Lazarus and the rich man)!
I am not arguing this with you any further.



exposed!!!! grin grin grin
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by Nobody: 9:27pm On Oct 04, 2016
Peacefullove:




exposed!!!! grin grin grin
may God have mercy on you!
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by dolphinheart(m): 10:55am On Oct 05, 2016
Justmary06:


No, that's not what I meant. I believe you are familiar with the book of Revelation and that was the reason I actually quoted that chapter (wanted to know if she actually read the Book). Anyway, right there in Rev 20 After the dragon (who happen to b satan) was thrown into the well of Abyss and sealed, then released and thrown into the lake fire - where the Beast and the false prophet was previously thrown. Then the judgement
good you read the book of revelation, here is some of the things I learnt from chapter 20
1. satan will be bound for 1000 years
2. He will be let loose for a while
3. There will be a resurrection before the 1000 years start but not all will be ressurreted during that first resurrection

"I saw a Great White Throne and the One Enthroned. Nothing could stand before or against the Presence, nothing in Heaven, nothing on earth. And then I saw all the dead, great and small, standing there—before the Throne! And books were opened. Then another book was opened: the Book of Life. The dead were judged by what was written in the books, by the way they had lived. SEA released its dead, DEATH and HELL (aka HADES) turned in their dead. Each man and woman was judged by the way he or she had lived. Then Death and Hell (Hades) were hurled into Lake Fire. This is the second death—Lake Fire. Anyone whose name was not found inscribed in the Book of Life was hurled into Lake Fire.
Revelation 20:11-15 MSG
the verses you quoted falsify your claim that nobody is in heLl.
1.The verses tells us that Hell Turned in its dead, if there are no dead people in hell, pls tell me, which dead did hell turn in if nobody is there.?

2. Secondly, if you are one who believes the parable of lasarus and the rich man is literal , how come you believe no one is in hell? cus the rich man was in hell while his brothers where still alive, long time before judgement.

3. you explanation does not tell us if people now go to heLl after they are judged, the scriptures you quoted does not say so. look at what you said earlier :

"The truth according to the bible, no one is presently in hell. Judgement has not taken place. What we have now is souls trapped inbetween."

examining your statement and the bible verses you quoted shows how leaky your theory is and I will encourage you to discard it cus it's not the truth!, At no point could you point to us when people go to hell, unless you want to claim that "lake of fire" means hell, and that will not work cus it's not true, hell was thrown into the lake of fire!

That's what I meant by in between. Souls which are currently neither resting nor mortally alive. Souls that are trapped with Death and Hades. We all would be judged at the same time which is way after:
you just posted a verse that says hell gave up its dead, pls tell us, can Hades be translated as hell? can death be translated as hell? can the sea be translated as hell? pls tell me , are their people trapped in the sea right now?
Thank God the scriptures never said they where trapped , because being trapped will involve an effort to get out, but such efforts being futile. according to the bible, that is not the condition of the dead.

you say souls are trapped with death and Hades, pls tell me, where are they trapped with death and Hades?

The opening of the seven seal (The SIXTH, tribulations where only 144,000 were sealed on their forehead and excluded REV 7)

The sound of the seven trumpet where those who were saved from tribulation would be excluded (The SIXTH, Horsemen armies who killed a third of human race and The Two witnesses REV 9 and REV 11)

The wrath of the Dragon who transfer authority to The Beast from the sea who "was permitted to make war on God’s holy people and conquer them. It held absolute sway over all tribes and peoples, tongues and races. Everyone on earth whose name was not written from the world’s foundation in the slaughtered Lamb’s Book of Life will worship the Beast." REV 13 vs 7-8 then the false prophet who give the markings of the beast name. Actually there is a riddle in that passage...to figure out the meaning of the mark Rev 13 vs 18 "Solve a riddle: Put your heads together and figure out the meaning of the number of the Beast. It’s a human number: 666."

The seven angels with seven disasters (The SIXTH, Armageddon REV 16)

Finally, The fall of the Babylon (the great city, which reigns over and dominates and controls the kings and the political leaders of the earth. REV 18), Doom of the Beast (Antichrist) and false prophet REV 19, The millennial Reign where the thousand years when Devil will be sealed in the Well of Abyss, the souls of believers slain for Christ would reign with him and the unbelievers will remain Dead REV 20 vs 4-5, then the Final Rebellion and Lastly The Final JUDGMENT. I just summarized Revelation for you and I hope you will understand what I mean better now.



I do not understand how this affects or identifies the location of people who died or if they are in hell or not. pls can you tell me, at what point in this whole scenario you posted did the first resurrection occur. you stated that the unbelievers will remain dead, are you saying that all believers would have been resurrected at this point? are you saying that after the 1000 year reign, nobody will be found whose name is written in the book of life?

minus the first and fifth which you tried to answer but got it all wrong, the other questions are still pending.

where did you get that
2. In between what and what will their soul be trapped
3. what is the name of the place where their soul will be trapped.
4. If souls are not in hell until judgement, then the story of the rich man is not literal, cus he was in hell when he was talking about his brothers who are still alI've.
6. what happens to the dragon after that little while.

If you examine my questions carefully, you yourself can see how untrue your theory is!
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by LoveJesus87(m): 6:15pm On Nov 07, 2016
Berlynn:
Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness?

Believe it or not, I did read the Bible, and I don't recall it actually explicitly stating "Once you are in Hell, you no longer have any chance for forgiveness, for Redemption."

That doesn't seem too Christian lets assume for a moment there's a Hell and some people are down there praying to Jesus, begging for forgiveness, begging to be forgiven for not believing in the twisted corrupt Churches while they were on earth, and will Jesus just ignores them?

The Jesus I imagine wouldn't ignore them, not even if they were in Hell, the Jesus I know wouldn't be that petty. He doesn't care if they screwed up & they're in Hell....He would forgive them and go get them to heaven

the Jesus you know who not ignore them My dear you DONT know him AT ALL. it is not even within his control but within d father's control. Our Almighty lord doesn't know when he is coming but d father. I guess u are rite after all. Maybe he is so kind hearted dat if the father allowed him to know he would alert us do dat nobody will go to hell. But he doesn't. There is simply NO repentance after death.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by LoveJesus87(m): 6:15pm On Nov 07, 2016
Berlynn:
Does anyone here know for an absolute certainty that the Bible actually states human souls in Hell have no chance for forgiveness?

Believe it or not, I did read the Bible, and I don't recall it actually explicitly stating "Once you are in Hell, you no longer have any chance for forgiveness, for Redemption."

That doesn't seem too Christian lets assume for a moment there's a Hell and some people are down there praying to Jesus, begging for forgiveness, begging to be forgiven for not believing in the twisted corrupt Churches while they were on earth, and will Jesus just ignores them?

The Jesus I imagine wouldn't ignore them, not even if they were in Hell, the Jesus I know wouldn't be that petty. He doesn't care if they screwed up & they're in Hell....He would forgive them and go get them to heaven

the Jesus you know who not ignore them My dear you DONT know him AT ALL. it is not even within his control but within d father's control. Our Almighty lord doesn't know when he is coming but d father. I guess u are rite after all. Maybe he is so kind hearted dat if the father allowed him to know he would alert us so dat nobody will go to hell. But he doesn't. There is simply NO repentance after death.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by ScienceWatch: 4:41pm On May 12, 2017
Oaroloye, did you know that there are a few Atheists that are worthy of respect because they are TRUTH seekers?

But you Oaroloye are on the lowest level of ATHEISM because you deliberately twist TRUTH. It has been clear to me from the start that your SATANIC MISSION is to destroy the mighty WORKS experienced only in LIVING CHURCHES.

You have chosen to serve your master SATAN. That is your choice. But why are you so stupid?even Atheists are offended by your crude attempts to mock the mighty JESUS to prove that you will succeed where others have failed.OAROLOYE, YOU HAVE ALREADY FAILED.

YOU HAVE FAILED FROM THE START in your SATANIC MISSION to slyly destroy the mighty JESUS CHRIST.

ANY IDIOT CAN COPY & PASTE thousands of scriptures the way you do.

BUT YOU CLEARLY LACK UNDERSTANDING OF THE HOLY GOSPELS.

IT WOULD BE IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO CONFINE YOURSELF IN A MENTAL ASYLUM OR GO TO HELL WHERE YOUR MASTER SATAN RESIDE. No offence intended!
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



WHERE DID YAHSHUA TEACH HIS DISCIPLES TO LAUGH AT OTHERS?

. LUKE 6:20-26.

20. And he lifted up his eyes
on his Disciples,
and Said,
"Blessed be ye Poor:
for yours is
The Kingdom of God.
21. "Blessed are ye
that hunger now:
for ye shall be filled.
Blessed are ye that weep now:
for ye shall laugh.
22. "Blessed are ye,
when men shall hate you,
and when they shall
separate you from their company,
and shall reproach you,
and cast out
your name as Evil,
for the Son of Man's sake.
23. "Rejoice ye in that day,
and leap for Joy:
for, behold, your Reward
is Great in Heaven:
for in the like manner
did their fathers
unto The Prophets.
24. "But woe unto you
that are rich!
For ye have received
your Consolation.
25. "Woe unto you that are full!
For ye shall hunger.
Woe unto you that laugh now!
For ye shall mourn and weep.
26. "Woe unto you,
when all men shall
speak well of you!
For so did their fathers
to the False Prophets."

IT WOULD BE A GREAT SHAME ON ME, IF IGNORANT DUNCES, SUCH AS YOURSELF, WERE TO PRAISE ME!



[size=48pt]PROVE IT![/size]

DON'T JUST TALK RUBBISH.

If you have Knowledge SHOW PEOPLE, that they may BENEFIT!

If you know any other valid Teacher, TELL US THEIR NAMES!

Whom have you helped, railingly accusing your Elder and Better?

Where are your websites?

How many Forums and Groups have you been kicked out of?

How many Death-Threats have you received?



People are DYING, because they don't know what I know.

You say "TAKE DOSES OF CHILL PILLS?"

Where would you be today, if the martyrs of the past had just "TAKEN DOSES OF CHILL-PILLS?"

I am not doing this to make MYSELF comfortable- but to make THOSE WORTHY comfortable.

You are UNWORTHY.



That is HIS Knowledge, and YOUR Knowledge.

Paul's Vision and YOUR Vision.

Not MY Knowledge, and not MY Vision.



Hey, I'm only 56 years old- what the Hell could I POSSIBLY know?





ON THE CONTRARY, I AM THE GREATEST AUTHORITY ON "LOVE" PRESENT AT THIS TIME.

The Ancient Greek Language had TWELVE DIFFERENT WORDS the last English Barbarians called "LOVE."

The only one YOUR ILK know, EROS: ROMANTIC LOVE, is the only one not used in the New Testament.

[See my Blog: LOVE: DISAMBIGUATION AND CLARIFICATION.]



HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH THAT ALLEGATION?



My Knowledge cannot do you any good, since you are not worthy.

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH trains its Undercover Operatives to disrupt Christian Gatherings.

If everybody here is okay with you slandering and reviling me, they must all be Vatican Servants.
Re: Can Souls In Hell Be Forgiven, Saved And Still Go To Heaven? by ScienceWatch: 5:05pm On May 12, 2017
pr0blem:
oaroloye



You and I know that you have very well misconstrued that passage, now, who is the IGNORANT DUNCE? Your Yahshua taught you not to laugh and not to get rich, but very well taught you to call people names. I see! O ye paragon of knowledge. Such Immaturity!





Sigh! Accolades. You're no different from a worldly man, yours is just for spiritual things. I wouldn't satisfy you by stooping so low. I have nothing to prove with you. Your Yahshua didn't go asking the Pharisees that challenged him such ridiculous questions. You have a lot to learn from your Yahshua, really!

With your responses, revelation(s)/understanding of scriptures are not at all exclusive to you. In fact, one should be most careful of you.




Hahahaa! I very well appreciate your complement. O Worthy ONE! You do not only misunderstand scriptures, you also misunderstand statements made by people to you, I wonder how your folks cope.





Alright then sir. Thank You. I see my post obviously wasn't to and for you. I'm sorry for making wrong assumptions that you had partial knowledge, and you possibly couldn't ever be wrong about a thing.




You don't say!

Of what use is your age to do with me? Your Yahshua was merely 12 when he posed to be a problem to people your age. Of what use was their age to him?




Guy! Shift abeeg.




Pride comes before a fall, knowledge puffs up. You are very well puffed up, and you don't know it. You are 56 doesn't mean the rest of us don't have a brain. 56 doesn't mean brain, doesn't mean sh!t bro. My allegations about you aren't wrong, and they weren't even allegations in the first place, they were merely (Concluded) observations. And dude! Your reply just proved all to be TRUE.




And because you are 56, and a paragon of knowledge, it is now you who dictates who is worthy? LOOOL. Now, I see where your hate is coming from. Your beef is not with me, it's with the Pope and his people.

And please STFU! Nobody is slandering and reviling you. Bring yourself out of the sh!thole self-pity you're trying to put yourself in. Nobody is buying it.

Sigh! Dude, you need help! You're seriously suffering from PARANOIA, almost PTS if you ask me.
Well written Sir! You have speedily identified a hateful CONMAN, on Nairaland.

THIS SHITHOLE, OAROLOYE IS A SATANIC ATHEIST disguised as a Christian.

He will take your statements and viciously twist it into a massive mess. Then he will spam copious OUT OF CONTEXT scriptures in a failed attempt to deceive and confuse his prey.

Oaroloye should admit himself to state MENTAL institution to give society a break.

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