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| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:20pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Whynotthetruth: “No state knew how the $1 bn difference reported in the Excess Crude Account balance, between October and November, came about,” Mr. Odaah told reporters then. “The discrepancy has been noted for discussion at the next FAAC meeting. It calls to question how transparent the management of the excess crude revenues has been.” http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/186229-faac-disowns-okonjo-iweala-denies-approving-withdrawal-of-2bn-excess-crude-funds.html |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by erico2k2(m): 6:21pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
anonimi:I just love when people come out with facts and figures like you . Bravo make we see his reply if E go make sense like yours. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by bejeria101(m): 6:29pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
You asked or you took him to court and court askd dat the money be shared? Guy! We knw the truth stop acting the scapegoat biko. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:30pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
For your information, the governors have never agreed to savings and always threatened court action even under Obasanjo. Why did we save under Obasanjo but not under Jonathan? Two keywords explain it: leadership and integrity... Prof. Soludo http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/176097-soludo-replies-okonjo-iweala-accuses-her-of-forging-national-economics-statistics.html |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:32pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
So, as Nigerians still wonder, if billions of dollars are now ‘missing’ under your nose, why should governors trust you to keep their money?... Prof. Soludo. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by anonimi: 6:35pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Whynotthetruth:That was why the 36 state governors wanted subsidy removed but Jonathan's political inexperience made him take on the matter instead of letting the governors carry the can as well. All the FAAC/states allegations of unaccounted ECA money was for paying subsidies that they would rather share thus creating fuel scarcity. www.nairaland.com/attachments/2606941_fuelsubsidygovernorssupport2011d_jpegc347aadcc28645a881c11e877b19ae27 |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by Unimaginable123: 6:36pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Politicians shaa. Jonathan's administration is just last year o. Not like the man is dead and forgotten. And these bold faced lies |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:36pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Between 2011 to 2014 federal government took N3.29 trillion while the 36 states received a total of N2.92 trillion. https://www.nairaland.com/3051497/history-excess-crude-account-eca |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by Unimaginable123: 6:37pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Just today in Abuja, Leadership Newspaper, a northern newspaper,gave Jonathan man of the year award |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by anonimi: 6:38pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:The keywords should rather be lawless versus law-abiding. anonimi: |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:40pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
anonimi: I do not understand what you are saying there. The problem is, she took the money without appropriation. Even the FAAC Commissioners did not know about it. Then Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Lied that they knew. The commissioners did not make allegations but exposed her lies. They exposed the discrepancies in the handling of the ECA. Let us not run from the truth. When the FG started taking money from the ECA without appropriation, they gave the governors license to join them in not saving. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by benzems(m): 6:41pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Amaechi Please pay NYSC their state Allowee Before you talk |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by Whynotthetruth(m): 6:41pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:I will amswer you using your own link... 1)From your link; the man who issued the statement did this; ..."Till the end of his tenure, Mr. Odaah, who later claimed reconciliation was ongoing with the Finance Minister, did not reveal his findings."... 2) Oshiomole who didn't know the limitations of his power smd functions of NEC claimed it is NEC that has power to authorize withdraw from ECA... unfortunately for him, ECA is not known to Nigeria Constitution...and NEC is an advisory body empowered to do economic policy formulation not ECA discussion or sharing authorization... 3)And because ECA isn't known to Constitution, Mr Odaar played smart by saying; ..."In disowning Mrs. Okonjo-Iweala, the Commissioners’ Forum pointed out that the law setting up FAAC, which predates the ECA, “cannot approve withdrawal and has not done so in the past.” ...Although the Commissioners said they observed the withdrawal of $2bn from the ECA in December 2014, the then Minister of State Finance and Chairman of FAAC, Mr. Yuguda, had explained during plenary that approval came from former President Goodluck Jonathan. 4)In keeping with his oath and duties of office to protect interest of Nigeria and Nigerians, Jonathan did this;..."The withdrawals were to help pay subsidy claims to oil marketers, who had threatened to stop importing petroleum products".... 5)Did Jonathan has right to do what he did? Yes... Constitutionally, he has the right and power... |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by anonimi: 6:43pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Unimaginable123:The Association of ProgreTHIEF Criminals, APC is all about LIES, propaganda and falsehood. No more, no less! www.nairaland.com/attachments/3356469_screenshot20160131120000_jpeg639beaec46d4ced684f639998a489af2 |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:44pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
anonimi: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala and GEJ armed the governors by using the money from the ECA without accountability. Bringing Tinubu into this is cheap and low. The point you tried to evade is simple. Would the governors collect the money if GEJ and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala acted with integrity? No. The governors took the FG to court because they had proof the FG and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala took money without appropriation. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:45pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
anonimi: I am not talking APC, PDP. The politicians do not feel the harsh effects of the economy like the ordinary citizens. This is about wastage of our resources and not party. The elections are over. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:50pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Whynotthetruth: You miss the point with your analysis. When Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala was boxed in a corner (not she did not say earlier that it was GEJ), she then used the Presidential cover to explain the disappearances of our funds from the ECA. This was the "NO POLITICAL WILL TO SAVE" that armed the governors to demand for the ECA. If the FG and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala was not going to save it, why should the governors save theirs. Her steps was wrong and it caused the cycle of wastage. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:53pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Whynotthetruth: This takes us back to the Amaechi quote in the OP's article. During Goodluck Jonathan, every month when the governors went for the economic council meeting, the amount in the account kept dropping. If we asked about what happened to the money, the response we got was that the president approved for it to be spent. This was why the governors asked for their share because the government was not saving it. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by anonimi: 6:54pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:I showed you that Tinubu correctly stated that our constitution clearly states that the Federation account is held jointly by and for all the three tiers of government with the federal government being a custodian only. Do you disagree ![]() Who will determine whether Jonathan and NOI acted with integrity? The states that wanted to share money at all costs? You should be smarter than this na! Meanwhile did the 36 states including Amaechi act with integrity with their share? I leave you to your conscience and with example below => scribble:www.nairaland.com/attachments/3483217_amaechidollarisation_jpegb5e0800e024c28f6be3bb816a31e3e74 The governors took the FG to court because they had proof the FG and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala took money without appropriation.Kindly share the details of this court case. Thanks. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by Whynotthetruth(m): 6:54pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:Are we arguing to learn and unravel truth or for what purpose? 1)Governors were under threat during OBJ term and whoever raised his voice was removed from office without qualms(Dariye, Ngige, Fayose etc)...and there was lawlessness...Is that what you call leadership and integrity ...And unfortunately, Buhari is trying to do some by what happened in Edo...are we sane at all in this country?...Who dare challenge OBJ words? when death, impeachment etc were considered normal...2)Did anybody take OBJ to court on ECA as APC governors did to Jonathan? and won him both in federal cum Appeal court and headed to Supreme court...before he called them back for political settlement which is the sharing of greater percentage of ECA savings... Are we averse to truth or what? |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:58pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Whynotthetruth: The governors from day one did not want to save the ECA, they could not win in court because OBJ treated the ECA with respect and showed integrity. In GEJ and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala coordinating the economy, there was no respect of the ECA and they dipped their hands into it without appropriation. So if the FG will not save what belongs to the FG, LG and State government, the governors could take them to court. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by anonimi: 7:00pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:The news item below proves otherwise. FG, States, LGs Share N568.4 Billion for Oct |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by ezebinugwu21: 7:02pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
please who is amaechi advisers they are not doing well at all,all blabb is to fault jona? |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:04pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
anonimi:That does not state that the ECA was not dropping. That does not state the FG handled our reserves with integrity. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala stated clearly she took money out from the ECA without appropriation on presidential orders. That says it all. So saying no to the Federal Commissioners does not prove anything. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by anonimi: 7:06pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:What has law and constitutionality got to do with you SAYING how Ebola Owu treated the ECA? The same Ebola Owu who withheld the LGA funds for Lagos state, right ![]() He was simply a lawless bully. anonimi: |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:06pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
The Federal Government got a total of N209.460 billion; states N133.671 billion; while local governments received N100.759 billion. http://breaking.com.ng/nigeria/federal-state-local-governments-share-n559bn/ The FG mostly got about 50%. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by Whynotthetruth(m): 7:07pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:It seems you're now talking for just sake of talking... Go back to same Amechi speech and see where he accepted at the end that the fund taken away was for subsidy payment...and Coincidentally, governors didn't want to join FG in payment of subsidy...and they can avoid this only by ensuring that FG doesn't keep their money... |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by anonimi: 7:08pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:The issues are still relevant. Do you have any allergy to historical facts being shared to dismantle the LIES you are trying to spread ![]() |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:10pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
anonimi:What does that have to do with what we are discussing? I repeat, my discussion here is not partisan but the mistakes we made in the past. The discussion is how to make sure this does not happen again. The FG should bear the responsibility of integrity and leadership. That was how OBJ saved. GEJ and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala’s dipping into the ECA caused this country problems. Another government should not touch it without appropriation. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:12pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
anonimi: I have an issue with any form of bigotry. People use tribe, ethnicity, religion or party allegiance to cover the crimes of people. If we discard partisan views and focus on the effect of the masses, we will see things clearer. |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by anonimi: 7:13pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:You have not shown anything from the courts asserting that the ECA was not handled with integrity. Until you do that, one can only conclude that you are a big fat LIAR. https://www.jetlaw.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/pants-on-fire1.jpg |
| Re: Amaechi: Govs Asked Jonathan To Share Oil Savings Because He Was Mismanaging It by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:15pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Whynotthetruth: Where did I say the funds were not taking away for Subsidy? I said, it was taking without Appropriation. That was why the governors asked for theirs. The FG was not saving. |
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