capip120:

Comrade I think you hit the nail on the head with these few words of yours. You see the problem with America goes beyond just being hypocritical, double standards, cunning and greed. The problem is that only a few minority calls the shot there and they have made it a duty to keep the wools on the eyes of their citizens till God knows when.
The Average American don't know about the outside world or what life is about on the other side. They don't even care because to them life begins and ends in America, all they ever want to do is get high, go clubbing, go to the best hotels and roll with fancy cars (no hating).
Until The United States of Anarchy is liberated from neoconservatives, the gross misinformation going on by the MSM will continue unabated. America went from good to become the words biggest threat and it is high time we all rise and put this Meddlesome Interloper where it belongs.

Appleyard:


Dear Lucas, need I repeat myself on why America is increasingly hated across the globe by so many informed people? I don't think so, cause we've been through that path before. Nobody dispute America being a first class nation, nor is anyone denying the respect and popularity it commands across the hemispheres, but there lies the irony: a country that is so popular and highly respected is, at the same, voted the greatest threat to World Peace; isn't that ironical enough? What does that entails? Simple! It entails that while many people across the globe recognized America as a very rich and open-arm nation that they desire to be, they nonetheless with equal passion highly resent it due to its military interventionism and warmongering destructive rhetorics.
The fact that America is rich and a notable global player amongst the committee of nations, doesn't mean it cannot be criticised for its destructive and overbearing Foreign Policy. I sometimes wondered why some of you can't even stomach a jot of criticism of America, which are right and constructive. It's like saying people MUST not be wary of water because its essential to human health, even when that same water drowns people, overflow its boundaries and destroy cities and lives. The America can-never-do-wrong Club of mendacity presupposes that since America has been of immense help to so many countries and its a place to be, we all MUST also embrace its destructive tendencies and warmongering, death machine ravaging the earth and causing instability from one place to another.. Such ACNDW Kool Aid logic, I must confess, is very appalling, don't you think?

Thanks be to God Almighty you made mention of Nigeria. Do you know that because of the senseless addictive corruption syndrome in this our beloved country, every well meaning Nigerian is now a potential suspect and highly discriminated against wherever they travelled, as a result of being stigmatized? Now, if such a predicament is confronting millions of innocent Nigerians today even when they did no wrong, what makes anyone think that America and its people should not be hated and criticised by so many others for the crimes of its government abroad, even when they (the people) did nothing wrong per se?

Therefore, America, like every other nation, has it Achilles hill and will be criticised more like every other nation. It is something you Anerican lovers cannot run away from, just as we ordinary Nigerians can't run away from the fact of being branded as a corrupt nation. And this is the reason we have Nairaland and it's foreign affairs segment, where all Nigerians and any other foreigner can discus anything of importance. It just don't have to do with how rich or poor we are, but constructively reviewing, criticising and analysing those things we feel and hold dear to us.

Appleyard:


Well put. mendacious jingoism is the hallmark of zombeism. A lot of Americans and some of them claiming Americans here don't travel outside their states, not to mention crossing the national borders; neither do they take time to watch alternative media sources other than the BBC, CNN, etc, to see what their Illuminati controlled government is doing in their name.
Hence, you see them rushing like blind men to defend their government on a course they know nothing about. Its because they don't listen to alternative voices of information that they fell victims to the lies told them about Iraq. The same trick was successfully repeated regarding Libya, Now, is Syria, and so on.

Like ATERI rightly denoted, you can tell a kid from a man when he or she rushes forward to say, "you hate my country because we refused you entry visa, and you are jealous of our wealth." To then, every country that dislike their government for obvious reasons, is only jealous of their wealth. That's the most pathetic and childish reasoning I have ever come across. By the time nuclear weapons starts flying, its then they will remember the warnings of their own founding fathers and from some of their formal head of states like highsonhower and others, regarding the MIC and the satanic banksters. Its Just that by then, its already too late.

capip120:

Comrade I think you hit the nail on the head with these few words of yours. You see the problem with America goes beyond just being hypocritical, double standards, cunning and greed. The problem is that only a few minority calls the shot there and they have made it a duty to keep the wools on the eyes of their citizens till God knows when.
The Average American don't know about the outside world or what life is about on the other side. They don't even care because to them life begins and ends in America, all they ever want to do is get high, go clubbing, go to the best hotels and roll with fancy cars (no hating).
Until The United States of Anarchy is liberated from neoconservatives, the gross misinformation going on by the MSM will continue unabated. America went from good to become the words biggest threat and it is high time we all rise and put this Meddlesome Interloper where it belongs.

missjo:

I'm sorry to interfere, I saw this thread because I follow someone who posted here.

My questions are:
1. What's your opinion on the way the US tries to police every other country into doing what she wants?

For example, just yesterday, Hungarians voted against accepting Syrian refugees. The US is having none of this,but how is it the business of the US to determine if another country should accept refugees.
Canadian PM in the last UN summit made a move to accept refugees into his country in their thousands, why doesn't the US do same of she cares so much about refugees rather than trying to bully other countries into doing what they don't want?

Another recent instance is the issue of France banning Muslim women from wearing BURKINIS at the beach. Again, the US is citing civil rights and condemning it.
But how is it the business of the US?

2. What's your opinion on the Russian, China, and most notably, North-Korean anti-american sentiments?
We understand how potentially destructive it is for countries to develop nuclear weapons and then go ahead to test them. But do you know that America is the first and only country to have detonated a nuclear weapon?
Since this is the case, what gives the US a right to decide who should develop nuclear weapons?

China as a country enjoys trade agreements and economic partnership with the US, yet they are innately anti-american.
The censure in that country is so much that the government openly limits what it calls 'western influence' especially in their media. IS THIS A BAD THING?

3. Are you a Nigerian?
If not, why do you remain on this forum which is a product of the country which you detest so much?

Mindfulness:


Hungary is part of the EU and the EU and the US of A are partners on many levels. It is legitimate to criticise your partners.
Obama also recommended that the British do not leave the EU. While some Brits got upset, others felt he supported them. Whatever you do, there is no pleasing everyone, especially not in politics, be it domestic or international. We have to allow freedom of speech on a global scale, we live in a globalized world. As long as you do not use bombs to force your opinion on others, a respectful dialogue should not be much of a problem. We woulCorrec live in a much more peaceful world if we allowed and respected the opinions of others. It's hard sometimes, I know.

I think that you have asked the right questions which can initiate an interesting discourse but your rhetorics is part of the problem. You speak of the US as one political entity when in fact the US only exists as one geographical unit. The US like any other country is diverse and divided into different political camps, which also differ in their approach to international politics.

I think that we should be careful to condemn an entire nation, which consists of diverse political, religious, ethnic and racial groups. The Iraq War was one of the biggest biggest mistakes in human history but was it the US who invaded Iraq? No, it was the Bush jr. administration and if you want you can blame his voters too but what about the rest of America who didn't vote for him and who protested against the war?

ATERI:


Great Apple!

You guys are the stars of this section. May God bless you for the good work you are doing; really proud of you!

Appleyard:


Yes, it's legitimate to criticise your partner, but on what basis when you're playing the card of the hypocrite? How many refugees has American taken ever since the Syrian crisis began? Why then is she trying to ridicule another sovereign for the same thing she has refused to do? Isn't that ridiculously hypocritical and senseless bullying? Come to think of it, the Hungarians have seen what the " rapefugees" are doing in Germany and Sweden, what terrorism is now doing in France; don't you think it is wise that they protect their people from such horror? I think it is logical if they so chose. Therefore, on that note, Missjo was very correct. If you want others to follow, lead by examples.

Appleyard:


Believe me when I say, you are doing a great job here. A lot of folks are sleepwalking into nuclear holocaust unknown to them. We need to speak out so that we at least, can postpone the evil day. Just look at Syria now, I am truly afraid for the world cause, anything could happen from now on. The news coming in now is that Russia is now moving in Intermediate range missiles, and the nuclear deal situation with the US is getting uglier day by day. Its prayer time for the world. This is no joke.

Appleyard:


Believe me when I say, you are doing a great job here. A lot of folks are sleepwalking into nuclear holocaust unknown to them. We need to speak out so that we at least, can postpone the evil day. Just look at Syria now, I am truly afraid for the world cause, anything could happen from now on. The news coming in now is that Russia is now moving in Intermediate range missiles, and the nuclear deal situation with the US is getting uglier day by day. Its prayer time for the world. This is no joke.

Mindfulness:



I can't quote your entire contribution but I will respond anyway. If we go by your logic, we can comfortably say, that people abroad have the right to hold you accountable for everything Buhari does and GEJ and all former governments did.

Appleyard:


Believe me when I say, you are doing a great job here. A lot of folks are sleepwalking into nuclear holocaust unknown to them. We need to speak out so that we at least, can postpone the evil day. Just look at Syria now, I am truly afraid for the world cause, anything could happen from now on. The news coming in now is that Russia is now moving in Intermediate range missiles, and the nuclear deal situation with the US is getting uglier day by day. Its prayer time for the world. This is no joke.

Lucasbalo:
I dare any Russian to criticize Putin in Moscow or St. Petersburg and see the fate that we befall that person. Even dissidents Russians in Europe have been murdered by a dose of cynide or some poisonous chemicals. The bottom line is that you guys will keep blaming America for everything and people like me will counter attack your criticism. It's call First Amendment rights.

mojeer678:


At the bolded: It's now clear that Lucas simply parrots and regurgigates whatever he's been fed by the lamestream media, without any independent verification of the garbage being peddled by these press-titutes who have sold their conscience and integrity cheaply.

When latest reports are now being unearthed that Alexander Litvinenko (worth more dead than alive to the Brits) could actually have been murdered by the brits themselves? Lucas, you need to wake up, seriously!

How come Litvinenko was done away with Polonium 21? …yes, right. Actually it seems that the enemies of the Anglo-American Zio alliance Chavez in Venezuala, Arafat, others in S. America are the ones being poisoned and make sick w/cancer. Oh! It's Putin who's done all those too? Huh?

Hear the brother: Maksim Litvinenko, Aleksandr’s younger brother who lives in Rimini, Italy, responded to the Thursday report by saying it was “ridiculous” to blame the Kremlin for the murder of his brother, stating that he believes British security services had more of a motive to carry out the assassination.

“My father and I are sure that the Russian authorities are not involved. It’s all a set-up to put pressure on the Russian government,” Litvinenko told the Mirror, adding that such reasoning is the only explanation as to why the inquiry was launched 10 years after his brother’s death.

Lucasbalo:
Good points. The haters don't care about the sinking Titanic they call home as long as they can spread their hatred of America amongst themselves. They live in a country where everything that's suppose to be up is down and what's supposed to be down is up yet you will never see them utter a word of condemnation about Nigeria. Let it come to America which is thousands times better than their country, you will see them goes into mental organisms trying to out perform each other. The funny thing is they Google bunch of crap from right wing blogs and they don't even know that the more they Google , the more money Americans make. Keep googling your junks guys and we will be laughing all the way to the banks.

Mindfulness:


I can understand why they are angry and I think you do too, judging from your other contributions. I think it's better to acknowledge that their perception is not entirely wrong.

mojeer678:


At the bolded: It's now clear that Lucas simply parrots and regurgigates whatever he's been fed by the lamestream media, without any independent verification of the garbage being peddled by these press-titutes who have sold their conscience and integrity cheaply.

When latest reports are now being unearthed that Alexander Litvinenko (worth more dead than alive to the Brits) could actually have been murdered by the brits themselves? Lucas, you need to wake up, seriously!

How come Litvinenko was done away with Polonium 21? …yes, right. Actually it seems that the enemies of the Anglo-American Zio alliance Chavez in Venezuala, Arafat, others in S. America are the ones being poisoned and make sick w/cancer. Oh! It's Putin who's done all those too? Huh?

Hear the brother: Maksim Litvinenko, Aleksandr’s younger brother who lives in Rimini, Italy, responded to the Thursday report by saying it was “ridiculous” to blame the Kremlin for the murder of his brother, stating that he believes British security services had more of a motive to carry out the assassination.

“My father and I are sure that the Russian authorities are not involved. It’s all a set-up to put pressure on the Russian government,” Litvinenko told the Mirror, adding that such reasoning is the only explanation as to why the inquiry was launched 10 years after his brother’s death.

Appleyard:


Well put. mendacious jingoism is the hallmark of zombeism. A lot of Americans and some of them claiming Americans here don't travel outside their states, not to mention crossing the national borders; neither do they take time to watch alternative media sources other than the BBC, CNN, etc, to see what their Illuminati controlled government is doing in their name.
Hence, you see them rushing like blind men to defend their government on a course they know nothing about. Its because they don't listen to alternative voices of information that they fell victims to the lies told them about Iraq. The same trick was successfully repeated regarding Libya, Now, is Syria, and so on.

Like ATERI rightly denoted, you can tell a kid from a man when he or she rushes forward to say, "you hate my country because we refused you entry visa, and you are jealous of our wealth." To then, every country that dislike their government for obvious reasons, is only jealous of their wealth. That's the most pathetic and childish reasoning I have ever come across. By the time nuclear weapons starts flying, its then they will remember the warnings of their own founding fathers and from some of their formal head of states like highsonhower and others, regarding the MIC and the satanic banksters. Its Just that by then, its already too late.

Lucasbalo:
I don't mean disrespect with this because you are my man even though we disagree on America. The correct name is Dwight Eisenhower of famed statement warning Americans about MIC ( Military Industrial Complex ).

Lucasbalo:
Stop spreading unnecessary fear. There is not going to be any nuclear holocaust. The worst time for nuclear holocaust was Cuba Missille crisis of early 60s and cooler heads prevailed between President John F. Kennedy and Nikita Kruchnev. That was as bad as it could be and everyone came to their senses at the last minute.

Lucasbalo:
How do you know the Americans on this forum never travelled out of their States or outside of America . Isn't that a generalization . On average Americans are probably one of the most travelled people in the world. I have friends and work with people who have travelled to places you can only dream about. What makes you think if you in Nigeria can listen to alternative news, Americans don't. What makes you better or more intelligent than Americans to make that kind of statement. Personally I have been to well over 30 countries not even counting Nigeria, Togo. Ghana, South Africa and other few countries. Tell me your HAC members how far have they travelled. I don't even need to go line up in some embassy praying to get a visa. I am making this point to counter your argument about Americans not leaving their States. You will criticize America and her citizens and you guys don't like to be challenged. There is more to be criticized in Nigeria and about Nigerians worshipping the worthlessly corrupt people that makes Nigeria a perpetual third world country where hyper inflation makes your Naira as good as a tissue paper. Think about that.

Appleyard:


Believe me when I say, you are doing a great job here. A lot of folks are sleepwalking into nuclear holocaust unknown to them. We need to speak out so that we at least, can postpone the evil day. Just look at Syria now, I am truly afraid for the world cause, anything could happen from now on. The news coming in now is that Russia is now moving in Intermediate range missiles, and the nuclear deal situation with the US is getting uglier day by day. Its prayer time for the world. This is no joke.

Lucasbalo:
Russian troll, what do you expect his son to say, blame Russia and end up dead like his father. Keep googling your junk and Americans will be laughing all the way to the banks.

Mindfulness:



I can't quote your entire contribution but I will respond anyway. If we go by your logic, we can comfortably say, that people abroad have the right to hold you accountable for everything Buhari does and GEJ and all former governments did.

mojeer678:


At the bolded: It's now clear that Lucas simply parrots and regurgigates whatever he's been fed by the lamestream media, without any independent verification of the garbage being peddled by these press-titutes who have sold their conscience and integrity cheaply.

When latest reports are now being unearthed that Alexander Litvinenko (worth more dead than alive to the Brits) could actually have been murdered by the brits themselves? Lucas, you need to wake up, seriously!

How come Litvinenko was done away with Polonium 21? …yes, right. Actually it seems that the enemies of the Anglo-American Zio alliance Chavez in Venezuala, Arafat, others in S. America are the ones being poisoned and make sick w/cancer. Oh! It's Putin who's done all those too? Huh?

Hear the brother: Maksim Litvinenko, Aleksandr’s younger brother who lives in Rimini, Italy, responded to the Thursday report by saying it was “ridiculous” to blame the Kremlin for the murder of his brother, stating that he believes British security services had more of a motive to carry out the assassination.

“My father and I are sure that the Russian authorities are not involved. It’s all a set-up to put pressure on the Russian government,” Litvinenko told the Mirror, adding that such reasoning is the only explanation as to why the inquiry was launched 10 years after his brother’s death.

Zoharariel:


You're correct Appleyard of Moskow. I hear NATO have just deployed AWACS illegally to Syria.

www.globalresearch.ca/airborne-radar-warning-and-control-nato-deploys-awacs-to-syria-in-violation-of-international-law/5549480

Imagine the excuse given by Jens Stoltenberg (NATO's general secretary)? He says the AWACS were deployed to improve the coalition's view of the sky.

Alois Irlmaiers scary prophecy is coming to pass - step by step right before our eyes.

mojeer678:


It is not a joke at all!!

These however are indisputable facts:

FACT: Russia did not stage massive nuclear drills without a reason, America really is being aggressive, Russia really did say it is on par with the bay of pigs, Russia really is sending the baltic fleet to the Mediterranean, Russia really did give shoot down orders, America really does intend to defy them and is painting American fighter jets with Russian paint schemes to put the blame on Russia when America bombs civilian targets.

Rumor: Russia has given its troops permission to sink any Nato ship. Russia is prepping for a tactical nuclear war in Syria.
What does it all add up to? A whole lot of panic, with people making tons of predictions.

VERY IMPORTANT: According to rumor I never managed to confirm, Joel Skousen - who is one of the most restrained political analysts out there said that the doom date is October 8th. That makes me worry, because he has never said anything like that. As usual, I am not going to make any predictions but I will say this: I am trying to prepare for the start of world war 3 and it has never looked spookier.

Trump is still ahead by a margin of approximately 90/10 and that has very evil people working overtime with trolls in the forums and blogs, saying the most ridiculous things to legitimize an election steal. "THEY" are cornered, and if they think they are going to lose it, things really will go BOOM. Soros wants both America and Russia destroyed. If he can trigger that now, all the better. And Soros knows he had better act now, because if Trump for any odd reason manages to get into power despite the fraud, he can kiss his NWO / death of America dreams goodbye. He won't give up on that easily.

So I have been having a difficult time sleeping lately.

Source: http://82.221.129.208/basepagei4.html

Mindfulness:


I can understand why they are angry and I think you do too, judging from your other contributions. I think it's better to acknowledge that their perception is not entirely wrong.

Appleyard:

Meanwhile US tactical nukes have now found a home in Romania-a country that borders Russia (just imagine how the reaction would have been if Russia is to move nukes into Mexico) and Russia has responded by moving ICBMs like Islander and many more to its borders with Europe.

missjo:

I don't consider myself part of this HAC group here,which is why my earlier questions to Mr. Lucas came entirely from this perspective. There's just no way any human who follows world politics and is being objective won't realize how the US sees itself as the standard by which every other nation must be measured.

There are more effective ways to dominate the world,but the US seems to only do this by bullying,placing trade restrictions, sanctions, and embargoes on countries that don't do as it wants. This method only breeds antagonism and more anti-american sentiment.
Take a look at China and see how they're becoming an economic powerhouse to reckon with just by using a simple yet more effective method suited to this time to dominate, TECHNOLOGY IN REVERSE ENGINEERING. Even read somewhere how some American manufacturers were angry that the Chinese keep manufacturing alternatives to their products at a cheaper price,lol..and they called it BAD. Like seriously,how is not bad? Reverse engineering is a branch of science.

We have moved way past from the time when force was used to subdue and dominate regions,this isn't the 18th or 19th century. If the US wants to make friends instead of building up hidden aggression, it needs to quit the show of force and power tactics. Countries that are capable of building a nuclear arsenal are getting more by the day,if everyone decides to say enough is enough, it won't be good for anyone involved.

Appleyard:



I am not trying to woo you over, but I must say your thoughts are very insightful. I can't understand why people can't see how dangerous this world has become for everyone as many countries are now trying to get their hands on some weapons of mass destruction they believe should help them attain freedom from the choking hands of the US led global hegemony. A situation where one nation resort to color coded revolution, assassination, sanctions and outright invasion to overthrow and destroy governments for simply refusing to follow its dictate, is something is now tbreatening the very foundation of global peace. That is why some of us here are so resentful of the US. Left for me, I have nothing against Americans in their own private capacity, all I ever wanted was that their government should allow the world to lice in peace. U don't even know of any HAC club some of these our brothers are talking about, if Nigerians hate Americabs per she, you won't see any long queues on the US embassy. Therefore, their excuse is baseless. our resentment and comments are based on facts.

missjo:

I don't consider myself part of this HAC group here,which is why my earlier questions to Mr. Lucas came entirely from this perspective. There's just no way any human who follows world politics and is being objective won't realize how the US sees itself as the standard by which every other nation must be measured.

There are more effective ways to dominate the world,but the US seems to only do this by bullying,placing trade restrictions, sanctions, and embargoes on countries that don't do as it wants. This method only breeds antagonism and more anti-american sentiment.
Take a look at China and see how they're becoming an economic powerhouse to reckon with just by using a simple yet more effective method suited to this time to dominate, TECHNOLOGY IN REVERSE ENGINEERING. Even read somewhere how some American manufacturers were angry that the Chinese keep manufacturing alternatives to their products at a cheaper price,lol..and they called it BAD. Like seriously,how is that bad? Reverse engineering is a branch of science.

We have moved way past from the time when force was used to subdue and dominate regions,this isn't the 18th or 19th century. If the US wants to make friends instead of building up hidden aggression, it needs to quit the show of force and power tactics. Countries that are capable of building a nuclear arsenal are getting more by the day,if everyone decides to say enough is enough, it won't be good for anyone involved.