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Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by WORLDPEACE(m): 9:33am On Oct 08, 2016
Saintp:
You are 100% correct. The north is the king here. They can dump the SW and realign with SS/SE. The reality is that the north will always have their way if they so desire. SW, SE, SS can't still do without the north politically.
You people need to stop talking about the north as if it is one Geo-political zone. We have northwest, northeast and north-central just like we have Southwest, southeast and south-south. A southerner can win in some parts there just like a Northerner can win in some parts in the south. Generalization is for the intellectually lazy. People should learn more about their own country. It is becoming depressing reading people's comments here.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:33am On Oct 08, 2016
seunmsg:
APC is obviously not interested in winning the ondo state election. A serious party that wants to win the coming election should be begging and seeking to reconcile the aggrieved members in order to ensure a united front and not this nonsense talk about anti party. Oyegun and his backers are taking the same arrogant path that led to the collapse of PDP, the outcome won't be different.
They are envious of Tinubu that's the way I see it. However I can assure you that it is DOA.




As for those thinking the SS will back the Fulani, the truth remains that we(SS) shall work with our SW neighbors and our middle belt friends to cut the Fulani to size if it comes to that.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by Reference(m): 9:34am On Oct 08, 2016
patriotic9jaboy:
The IPOB yout above me is foaming at the mouth for nothing. Tinubu has fought countless political battles and emerged victorious. If the north think they can use and dump him, he would simply realign with like minds and work towards taking power away from the north in 2019. In the end, it will be a win win situation for Tinubu and the south west
You people have started again. Instead of de-escalation it is always confrontation, the beating of war drums and plain red neck lizardry. Instead of building institutions you guys will prefer them torn down and sacrificed to cult heroes in vulgar idolatry. Is there anyone that is patriotic in Nigeria? Why should Tinubu break down the party. Does it belong to him, is it for his benefit alone. Is that the virtue of leadership. In the season when democracy has been elevated by sacrifice in the selfless acts of Goodluck Jonathan in ceeding power for the greater good, it appears no one is willing to follow in his footsteps.... too bad.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by anigbajumo(m): 9:35am On Oct 08, 2016


For northern cabal to skewed Tinubu out of the party is just like motor without engine.Jagaban is a good strategist in a political game but I don't see him playing a major role to produce a president by 2019,it will be a very difficult task for him,he can only thwart APC target by 2019 coz the like of Fayemi,Fashola,Ajimobi nd Akeredolu can give APC victory in SW without the support of Tinubu.He can't form any cabal with SS/SE at the moment coz of wat happened in 2015.
If PDP put her house in order on time,he may secretly work for them nd come out victorious but I doubt free nd fair election by 2019.


Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by omoyowa: 9:35am On Oct 08, 2016
patriotic9jaboy:
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You think the born to rule mentality of the North cannot be broken if we co-operate in the south? The south east is the only problem we have down south due to their seccession stance. If we unite, we will defeat the north. I'm sure Tinubu is cooking something for you northerners come 2019
I am from ahoada in river state,,.
d SE is not d problem,but you guys that have continuously betrayed your southern brothers,since 1914
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by drss(m): 9:38am On Oct 08, 2016
fulanimafia:
You guys sound like kids at times if you're not one.

Listen, Tinubu enjoys support from the North but if you think you can blackmail anyone then you people are on the way to political irrelevance and you will only lead Tinubu to his destruction with unguarded utterances.

You seem to have forgotten the fact that not only does the North have the strongest electoral muscle in the land, but even if the South miraculously unite and back a southern candidate they still cannot win the election because of the 2/3 rule. You seem to have forgotten that the North can also realign and partner with others in the South who cannot wait to repay you for your perceived treachery against GEJ and will jump at the opportunity regardless of the rhetoric peddled by inconsequential online minions.

Tread softly and weigh your words.
u mean continuing with ur ''divide n rule'' scheme by dumping south west n joining alliance onces again with se/ss to spite d south west just like 1978-1979 to win 2019 d presidential election cos u tink u ar born to rule righthuh u pipul will be in for a big shocker 2019.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by fulanimafia: 9:41am On Oct 08, 2016
Oga Fototek you sef don dey support our Tinubu?

Wonders are just beginning grin

anonimi:
The Association of ProgreTHIEF Criminals, APC has achieved its ONLY objective, which was to BBOG- Bring Back Our Government (to the north).
The Special Purpose Vehicle and its passengers cum driver(s) have therefore become dispensable excess luggage.
I only pity the zombie change chanters who do not still understand whatsgwan and are yet to stop their sai bubu fighting corruption nonsense!


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Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by Saintp(m): 9:42am On Oct 08, 2016
WORLDPEACE:
You people need to stop talking about the north as if it is one Geo-political zone. We have northwest, northeast and north-central just like we have Southwest, southeast and south-south. A southerner can win in some parts there just like a Northerner can win in some parts in the south. Generalization is for the intellectually lazy. People should learn more about their own country. It is becoming depressing reading people's comments here.
Bros I understand. but how many times have you heard or seen NE Vs NW or NW Vs NC battles like we have SW Vs SE etc? Politically the north is one unlike the south that is three so I know what I am saying.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by dunkem21(m): 9:45am On Oct 08, 2016
fulanimafia:
Oga Fototek you sef don dey support our Tinubu?

Wonders are just beginning grin
grin You no see me dey support Buhari grin


#Changebeginswithme cheesy
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by MONITZ: 9:45am On Oct 08, 2016
The North are a very ungrateful lot, and they are setting a bad precedence,people will be very wary of teaming up with them in future, and in Tinubu's case he cut off his nose to spite his face, and he is looking terrible right now, I know some of u will be quick to say that politics is all about interests bt in this very case are his interests being taken care of now as agreed pre-election?

The fight will get messier in the coming weeks, and someone's nose will be bloodied.

It's either Jagaban comes out victorious or he gets vanquished and which will signal the end of his era, So I see him getting involved in the greatest political battle of his life.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by anonimi: 9:46am On Oct 08, 2016
fulanimafia:
Oga Fototek you sef don dey support our Tinubu?
Wonders are just beginning grin
You better read and understand wella again.
Wetin consigne me with the Asiwaju Asiwere?
Wetin consigne agbero with overload?
When he was stealing us blind and depriving us of:

- adequately staffed and properly equipped schools for all our children.
- tap water
- clinics and hospitals that are well equipped and adequately staffed.
- good roads.
- light rail metro
- EMPLOYMENT that is well paid promptly


did I join him huh
Cheers.


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Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by anigbajumo(m): 9:48am On Oct 08, 2016
Saintp:
You are 100% correct. The north is the king here. They can dump the SW and realign with SS/SE. The reality is that the north will always have their way if they so desire. SW, SE, SS can't still do without the north politically.


Bro,it will take time for SW,SE nd SS to work together nd achieve our goal.Northerners are always thirsty nd desperate for power.If it is glaring that southerns are united, the election might not b free nd fair nd massive rigging will go there in the north.They owe the presidency,the umpire nd the security. How can the south do it nd succeed without north??

The basic fact is that southerners can't even unite for now coz of the past coz nd am not seeing SE/SS to work with SW.

Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by Ikwerreboy(m): 9:52am On Oct 08, 2016
kcnwaigbo:
Realigned with which likeminds? Better count the SS/SE out of your misery!!!!You got served.Tinubu has indeed fought many battles but that was in the SW region. The SW alone cannot defeat the north in national politics.
Shut up ur mouth. We Niger deltans are ready to align with the South west in order to get rid of power from the north.

You igbos can join the northerners if you so wish.

Now i know the igbos are the problem we have in Southern Nigeria unity.

Yoruba's voted against Niger delta because of the igbos

And i blame Jonathan for dinning with the most hated tribe in Nigeria (igbos) who find it difficult to vote unlike the Yoruba's.

You igbos should better stop dividing the South

Unity is what we need now.

All old wounds have been healed. Thank you
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by Siscooh: 9:52am On Oct 08, 2016
patriotic9jaboy:
We will work with the SS to remove the northern dominance in 2019. Don't under estimate Tinubu. He will win this battle
Which SS? If SS join Tinubu in any fight against the North, they will remain children in the eyes of these people who brought down their brother and have continued to make a mockery of him. Sorry!!! Even though some of them speak from both sides of their mouths especially the confused guy on this forum. He knows himself!
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by omofunaab(m): 9:53am On Oct 08, 2016
fulanimafia:
You guys sound like kids at times if you're not one.

Listen, Tinubu enjoys support from the North but if you think you can blackmail anyone then you people are on the way to political irrelevance and you will only lead Tinubu to his destruction with unguarded utterances.

You seem to have forgotten the fact that not only does the North have the strongest electoral muscle in the land, but even if the South miraculously unite and back a southern candidate they still cannot win the election because of the 2/3 rule. You seem to have forgotten that the North can also realign and partner with others in the South who cannot wait to repay you for your perceived treachery against GEJ and will jump at the opportunity regardless of the rhetoric peddled by inconsequential online minions.

Tread softly and weigh your words.
You obviously don't get it, if APC succeed in frustrating tinubu, then he will definitely re-strategise,
The mistake most of you make is thinking that tinubu will want to hit back so quickly in 2019.
Tinubu will first want to heal the wounds in his region, especially where the daura mafia have infiltrated. Then he solidifies his grip on his region.

You guys think everything is about who gets the president's slot. Regional unity is the first step, when the north sees how the south west is united along with their brothers in kwara and part of kogi then the same northerners will come back to bourdilion in ikoyi to beg and seek alliance like they did in 2015.
And you saying the north will form an alliance with others in the south is a fallacy. You obviously think the SS and SE will vote buhari in 2019. I strongly doubt it.
The north just insulted the only region that allowed them to have the required 2/3 in 2015.
And you forget something, not everybody in the north will vote a Fulani with the activities of your herdsmen.
Benue, plateau and taraba.. And you forget the southern kaduna don't usually vote for buhari.
Kwara will definitely not vote for buhari despite the fact you guys call them northerners and also kogi state.

Buhari needs tinubu more than tinubu needs buhari.

So you better mind your utterances so that you won't annoy others here.
As you can see the yorubas defending buhari are now reluctant to do so now.
This shows you that their loyalty lies first to their region then the nation Nigeria.

Take care
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by Siscooh: 9:58am On Oct 08, 2016
omofunaab:
You obviously don't get it, if APC succeed in frustrating tinubu, then he will definitely re-strategise,
The mistake most of you make is thinking that tinubu will want hit back so quickly in 2019.
Tinubu will first want to heal the wounds in his region, especially where the daura mafia have infiltrated. Then he solidifies his grip on his region.

You guys think everything is about who gets the president's slot.
And you saying the north will form an alliance with others in the south is a fallacy. You obviously think the SS and SE will vote buhari in 2019. I strongly doubt it.
The north just insulted the only region that allowed them to have the required 2/3 in 2015.
And you forget something, not everybody in the north will vote a Fulani with the activities of your herdsmen.
Benue, plateau and taraba.. And you forget the southern kaduna don't usually vote for buhari.
Kwara will definitely not vote for buhari despite the fact you guys call them northerners and also kogi state.

Buhari needs tinubu more than tinubu needs buhari.

So you better mind your utterances so that you won't annoy others here.
As you can see the yorubas defending buhari are now reluctant to do so now.
This shows you that their loyalty lies first to their region then the nation Nigeria.

Take care
Tinubu no be God O! God has just blessed him period!!! So don't talk like He is Alllmighty. No!
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by omoyowa: 10:01am On Oct 08, 2016
seunmsg:
Listen, Buhari enjoys support from the south but if you think you can blackmail the leading political leader who facilitated the southern support, then you people are on the way to making APC politically irrelevance and you will only lead Buhari to his destruction with unguarded utterances.

You seem to have forgotten the fact that not only does the south have a very strong electoral muscle in the land if they unite, but even if the north miraculously unite and back a northern candidate they still cannot win the election because of the 2/3 rule. You seem to have forgotten that the south can also realign and partner with others in the north who cannot wait to repay you for your perceived treachery against northern PDP leaders like Sambo, Lamido, Shema etc and will jump at the opportunity regardless of the rhetoric peddled by inconsequential online minions.

Tread softly and weigh your words
SE/SS can never and will never align with SW for any political gain,rather we will align with d north in order to pay you guys back for your several betrayals since 1914
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by Saintp(m): 10:01am On Oct 08, 2016
drss:
u mean continuing with ur ''divide n rule'' scheme by dumping south west n joining alliance onces again with se/ss to spite d south west just like 1978-1979 to win 2019 d presidential election cos u tink u ar born to rule righthuh u pipul will be in for a big shocker 2019.
You people should stop blaming the north. they are simply capitalizing on the free platform offered to them by the south to actualize their aim. To me the SW, SE and SS are all very stupid politically.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by omofunaab(m): 10:03am On Oct 08, 2016
Siscooh:
Tinubu no be God O! God has just blessed him period!!! So don't talk like He is Alllmighty. No!
Did I say tinubu is God?
Tinubu is definitely the strongest politician in south west.
Many see him as the present day Awolowo .
He symbolizes the unity of yoruba nation and any attempt to insult him definitely means you have insulted the yoruba nation as a whole.

Or why do you think fani kayode and Fayose spoke in his defence. They know tinubu is the number one leader in south west
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by omofunaab(m): 10:04am On Oct 08, 2016
omoyowa:
SE/SS can never and will never align with SW for any political gain,rather we will align with d north in order to pay you guys back for your several betrayals since 1914
You mean you are ready to vote buhari and APC in 2019
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by drss(m): 10:08am On Oct 08, 2016
Saintp:
Bros I understand. but how many times have you heard or seen NE Vs NW or NW Vs NC battles like we have SW Vs SE etc? Politically the north is one unlike the south that is three so I know what I am saying.
dis is where u got it wrong. d north is not one as they paint it. some parts of middle belt no longer see demselves as northerners but middle belters. a union btw south east, south south, south west n middle belt will beat d north hands down in any election. d north demselves know dis. dat is why they ar desperate to keep middle belt as part of core north while they use divide n rule to divide d south. i will create a thread about dis later in d evening.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by omoyowa: 10:09am On Oct 08, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
They are envious of Tinubu that's the way I see it. However I can assure you that it is DOA.




As for those thinking the SS will back the Fulani, the truth remains that we(SS) shall work with our SW neighbors and our middle belt friends to cut the Fulani to size if it comes to that.
you are a complete afonjas in disguise
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by Doyin2(m): 10:11am On Oct 08, 2016
patriotic9jaboy:
The IPOB yout above me is foaming at the mouth for nothing. Tinubu has fought countless political battles and emerged victorious. If the north think they can use and dump him, he would simply realign with like minds and work towards taking power away from the north in 2019. In the end, it will be a win win situation for Tinubu and the south west
This is not a matter of use and dumb,neither is it a case of northern plot against Tinubu.

The chairman of the party,Oyegun is not a northerner,so people should stop instigating tribal politics at the slightest unwarranted opportunity.

Tinubu made allegations against the chairman,the chairman had responded.As far as I am concerned,whether Oyegun's explanations are genuine or not,he remains the chairman,a decision has been taken.I expect any unselfish party member to abide by the decision of the NWC,or honorably resign from the party,rather than engaged in anti-party activity.


If this anti-party activity story is true,then Tinubu would have exposed himself as not being a team player.I very much respect his status and contributions to Nigeria's democracy thus far,but he can not always have his way whether rightly or wrongly,in a party that is national!

Successful Institutions should NOT be built around one person,if Tinubu decides to destroy a national party he had jointly built with others,that is his own kettle of fish!

Selfish leaders are better suited for regional parties like AD,and not national parties like APC!
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by WORLDPEACE(m): 10:12am On Oct 08, 2016
Saintp:
Bros I understand. but how many times have you heard or seen NE Vs NW or NW Vs NC battles like we have SW Vs SE etc? Politically the north is one unlike the south that is three so I know what I am saying.
Are you aware that Jonathan in his first election won the north-central hands down, he also had high percentage in the north-east?
The only place he could not penetrate was the North-west where Buhari is from, while he won the whole southern region. Obasanjo too from when Buhari started contesting in 2003 did not win the north-west while he won the other regions. So the so called "indivisible north" is just the north-west. But if you treat a people as one, soon they will begin to see themselves as one. That's what southerners keep doing and when you decide to make everything strictly regional nobody will ever win
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by fulanimafia: 10:12am On Oct 08, 2016
omofunaab:
You obviously don't get it, if APC succeed in frustrating tinubu, then he will definitely re-strategise,
The mistake most of you make is thinking that tinubu will want hit back so quickly in 2019.
Tinubu will first want to heal the wounds in his region, especially where the daura mafia have infiltrated. Then he solidifies his grip on his region.

You guys think everything is about who gets the president's slot.
And you saying the north will form an alliance with others in the south is a fallacy. You obviously think the SS and SE will vote buhari in 2019. I strongly doubt it.
The north just insulted the only region that allowed them to have the required 2/3 in 2015.
And you forget something, not everybody in the north will vote a Fulani with the activities of your herdsmen.
Benue, plateau and taraba.. And you forget the southern kaduna don't usually vote for buhari.
Kwara will definitely not vote for buhari despite the fact you guys call them northerners and also kogi state.

Buhari needs tinubu more than tinubu needs buhari.

So you better mind your utterances so that you won't annoy others here.
As you can see the yorubas defending buhari are now reluctant to do so now.
This shows you that their loyalty lies first to their region then the nation Nigeria.

Take care
That post was in response to the unguarded utterances that have pervaded this forum in the past few days.

You're the one seeing a crack between Tinubu and Buhari.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:15am On Oct 08, 2016
omoyowa:
you are a complete afonjas in disguise
You still don't get it, the South South is NEVER driven by hate.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by figment232(m): 10:17am On Oct 08, 2016
patriotic9jaboy:
The IPOB yout above me is foaming at the mouth for nothing. Tinubu has fought countless political battles and emerged victorious. If the north think they can use and dump him, he would simply realign with like minds and work towards taking power away from the north in 2019. In the end, it will be a win win situation for Tinubu and the south west
Guy Buhari is not GEJ.BUBU is wicked and reckless
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by striker9(m): 10:17am On Oct 08, 2016
omoyowa:
I am from ahoada in river state,,.
d SE is not d problem,but you guys that have continuously betrayed your southern brothers,since 1914
Hmmm like they did in 2011 abi. ..no wahala
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by legendte(m): 10:18am On Oct 08, 2016
seunmsg:
I have read so many comments about how Yoruba's are betrayals and why they should learn from the current crisis in APC not to trust and work with northerners again. Funny enough, nobody is talking about Oyegun's betrayal. Tinubu single handedly made Oyegun APC chairman. Oyegun stood no chance against Tom Ikimi but Tinubu stood his ground and Oyegun won. Ikimi angrily left the party in shame. So, why should Oyegun betray his benefactor?

Again, if aligning with the north is so bad, why is Oyegun aligning with northern cabal in APC to fight a southern brother, friend and benefactor. Is there no lessons for him to learn as well? It is no big deal for an Edo man to align with the northern cabal against a fellow southerner but it is always a taboo when a Yoruba man works with the north. Such double standard cannot bring any southern unity.
Karma is a bitch.
West were so happy to work against the first south south president. Now the architect of that betrayal is being served.
He don cook for Karma. Karma just want chop.
I hope they don't give him the Awo and Abiola treatment.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by omoyowa: 10:18am On Oct 08, 2016
Ikwerreboy:
Shut up ur mouth. We Niger deltans are ready to align with the South west in order to get rid of power from the north.

You igbos can join the northerners if you so wish.

Now i know the igbos are the problem we have in Southern Nigeria unity.

Yoruba's voted against Niger delta because of the igbos

And i blame Jonathan for dinning with the most hated tribe in Nigeria (igbos) who find it difficult to vote unlike the Yoruba's.

You igbos should better stop dividing the South

Unity is what we need now.

All old wounds have been healed. Thank you
A complete ranting from a disguising Afonjas...
claiming SS..,I am from umueri in ahoada LGA of river state..
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by drss(m): 10:18am On Oct 08, 2016
Saintp:
You people should stop blaming the north. they are simply capitalizing on the free platform offered to them by the south to actualize their aim. To me the SW, SE and SS are all very stupid politically.
u ar right. they ar only taking advantage of southern dis united to their advantage.
Re: Ondo Election: APC To Investigate Tinubu’s Anti-Party Moves by figment232(m): 10:22am On Oct 08, 2016
SamuelAnyawu:
Tinubu kindly move to P cool
He is not welcomed in PDP. he shld try KOWA
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