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sucess001:
i actually want to go that route...try me.

so the judiciary is rotten because the executive and a nairalander says so?

You did as expected. Unfortunately here is the part where I realize replying you and trying to educate you is not unlike trying to boil stone. It's futile. You're beyond Redemption

omofunaab:
Nice damage control by NJC but it doesn't change the fact that you aren't doing enough in cleansing the judiciary of corruption.

You said you have reprimanded 82 judges since 2000 and most of them were warnings, cautions and suspension. What has happened to recommending for prosecution? judges don't warn armed robbers instead they send them to jail when delivering judgements

How can someone accused of corruption be cautioned? .
NJC just corroborated the DSS stance that they are shielding their colleagues If
HON. JUSTICE MUHAMMED LADAN TSAMIYA was only recommended for retirement with full benefits and not prosecution despite demanding for N200 million bribe, the NJC is trying to tell us that the said judge didn't receive the money but he demanded for the money so he shouldn't be prosecuted.

As for as am concerned requesting for bribe alone is an offence punishable by the law but our NJC only recommended for retirement with full benefits .

And if what the NJC said is true about the DSS only bringing purchase of cars, ownership of properties etc as proof of corruption then I Will stop believing the DSS whenever they say they have incriminating evidences.

For God sake those are not evidences, they are just things for you to start suspecting or commence investigation. If you see heavy lodgements in an account, then you trace it to who paid the amount then you connect the dots by relating the lodger to the judge. Check if the person is a third party, carry out thorough investigation. Because the judge can just claim it was an error and the lodger might say he made a mistake while filling the teller or something.

Dss should carry out covert investigation and present audio, video, bank transactions document to the NJC as evidence So as to win these case

We need to win the war against corruption

U ARE JUST WASTING UR SALIVA OR FINGER STRENGTH ON WHAT NJC IS TELLING US HERE. D DSS CANT GET SUCH AS EVIDENCE TO NAIL A SENIOR JUDGE OF HIS CALIBRE. ITS REAL DAMAGE CONTROL AND IMAGE DECOR. DSS OBSERVED THE UNWILLINGNESS OF D NJC TO DO D RIGHT THING, SO THEY WITHHELD D MPTE DAMNING EVIDENCES...

omofunaab:
Nice damage control by NJC but it doesn't change the fact that you aren't doing enough in cleansing the judiciary of corruption.

You said you have reprimanded 82 judges since 2000 and most of them were warnings, cautions and suspension. What has happened to recommending for prosecution? judges don't warn armed robbers instead they send them to jail when delivering judgements

How can someone accused of corruption be cautioned? .
NJC just corroborated the DSS stance that they are shielding their colleagues If
HON. JUSTICE MUHAMMED LADAN TSAMIYA was only recommended for retirement with full benefits and not prosecution despite demanding for N200 million bribe, the NJC is trying to tell us that the said judge didn't receive the money but he demanded for the money so he shouldn't be prosecuted.

As for as am concerned requesting for bribe alone is an offence punishable by the law but our NJC only recommended for retirement with full benefits .

And if what the NJC said is true about the DSS only bringing purchase of cars, ownership of properties etc as proof of corruption then I Will stop believing the DSS whenever they say they have incriminating evidences.

For God sake those are not evidences, they are just things for you to start suspecting or commence investigation. If you see heavy lodgements in an account, then you trace it to who paid the amount then you connect the dots by relating the lodger to the judge. Check if the person is a third party, carry out thorough investigation. Because the judge can just claim it was an error and the lodger might say he made a mistake while filling the teller or something.

Dss should carry out covert investigation and present audio, video, bank transactions document to the NJC as evidence So as to win these case

We need to win the war against corruption

U ARE JUST WASTING UR SALIVA OR FINGER STRENGTH ON WHAT NJC IS TELLING US HERE. D DSS CANT GET SUCH AS EVIDENCE TO NAIL A SENIOR JUDGE OF HIS CALIBRE. ITS REAL DAMAGE CONTROL AND IMAGE DECOR. DSS OBSERVED THE UNWILLINGNESS OF D NJC TO DO D RIGHT THING, SO THEY WITHHELD D MORE DAMNING EVIDENCES...

[quote author=StepTwo post=50181288]I hope hate doesn't consume you.

aminulive:
Council had found His Lordship culpable of professional misconduct contrary to Code of Conduct for Judicial Officers of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and the provisions of Section 292 of 1999 Constitution of Federal Republic of Nigeria. Accordingly, he was recommended to Mr President for compulsory retirement from office following the petition written by one Mr Nnamdi Iro Oji for demanding the sum of N200,000,000.00 (Two Hundred Million Naira) bribe. It is to be stressed that from the evidence before the Council, Hon. Justice Ladan Tsamiya did not receive N200m bribe. T

Did anyone see that? Useless NJC. Is asking for bribe not a crime?

ebby9z:
It is audible to the deaf and obvious to the blind that the judiciary in the country has gotten extremely rotten...just like every other sector. But he danger here is that the judiciary is the final arbiter, they wield so much influence...we can't survive and grow with such a judicial system.
Thats why if a rich man assaults you, you can not take him to court, because you know you will lose. If a politician beats up your wife, you can not sue him knowing he would emerge victorious. So, where's the last hope of the common man! When will we start the transformation that we have always talked about?
If the NJC had been up and doing when they should, this issue would not have degenerated to this level.
The mode might have been a tad unconventional but it's longterm benefits outweighs the disadvantages

Look, you're missing the point.

Now if I come on the pages of the newspaper and scream that you're corrupt and I found 500 million in your house, does it make it true?

You would want me to provide evidence, and prove beyond reasonable doubt that the evidence is also proceeds of corruption, right? That is how the rule of law works.

NJC clearly stated that the DSS had no evidence of corruption against Justice Pindiga so what the hell do you want them to do?

The law works with evidence and proof beyond doubt and not merely hearsay or we would be running a banana republic.

Gosh! How hard is it for you to understand this?

fof1:
U ARE JUST WASTING UR SALIVA OR FINGER STRENGTH ON WHAT NJC IS TELLING US HERE. D DSS CANT GET SUCH AS EVIDENCE TO NAIL A SENIOR JUDGE OF HIS CALIBRE. ITS REAL DAMAGE CONTROL AND IMAGE DECOR. DSS OBSERVED THE UNWILLINGNESS OF D NJC TO DO D RIGHT THING, SO THEY WITHHELD D MORE DAMNING EVIDENCES...

If the DSS can't do a thorough investigation and get evidence to back their allegations then they have no case!!!

papparatzzi2013:
So, why the unnecessary noise from NJC when law enforcement agencies are simply carrying out their constitutional duties against corrupt judges, in accordance with the law that makes corruption a crime?

What bloody constitutional duties? Same constitution whose laws were violently flouted by the DSS? And who gave the DSS powers to handle corruption cases? Is it the Police or EFCC?

duni04:
World over, even in the almighty USA, judges residences are routinely raided. The FBI or Scotland yard doesn't have any regard or respect for any corrupt judge. Why is it in Nigeria where we have a serious corruption epidemic that people are crying for us to respect the "big man" judge or the "judicial institution"
The saddest part of this is that the people who have been victims of this corruption, the Nigerian masses, are joining this stupid chrus of "respect the judiciary". It really saddens nt heart. A judge who is building an estate in Calabar with tax payers money (justice ngwuta) obtained from bribes has no self respect or regard for anyone. Why are you the Nigerian masses respecting such person?

you are yet to prove the bolded.Justice Ngwuta has the right to own properties.Building an estate is not a crime dear.You will need to prove that he is building the estate with proceeds from corruption

StepTwo:
some of you few Igbos online make the entire tribe funny and sarcastic, shouldnt there be time for everything?

you've made wailing so irritating at the mention of Buhari's name all the time.

I dare you be intelligent enough to create threads criticising Buhari rather than spew his name all over the net, one cannot find a single thread without Buhari's name in it, even in Romance section you will still find Buhari's name more than Fynestboi and Tosyne2much




Na wetin?

,Hahaha... Can't stop laughing

ebby9z:
You did as expected. Unfortunately here is the part where I realize replying you and trying to educate you is not unlike trying to boil stone. It's futile. You're beyond Redemption

typical...rather than they attack the issues...they run...

A judge was found to have demanded bribe and was only "retired" not referred to police for prosecution??

Abeg buhari scrap NJC

Aufbauh:
Those in the NJC are bunch of comedians.
With all their days of meeting on this issue this is the crap they've come up with?

l was thinking that they might recommend Buhari or DSS boss to the National assembly for impeachment or sack and demand for the release of the ceased money, rather they are pledging their unalloyed support and loyalty to the Grandmaster President Muhammadu Buhari GCFR...... So disappointed

You want the money they seized from them to be returned? Money they gained illegally? This is the problem with Nigerians. These men in power take us for a ride and we encourage and support them. How will the country get better if the guilty ones are not made scape goats for others to learn from.

freeze001:
The moment a judge is compulsorily retired on grounds of corrupt practices, he is open to prosecution by the prosecuting agencies. It is not within the powers of the NJC to prosecute by itself. The question should now be why the bodies under the executive vested with the powers to prosecute offenders fail to do so.

Don't forget that not all petitions before the NJC have crimes attached to them. It could be for unexplained absence from work, leaving litigants hanging. It could be failure to give judgment within the specified number of days after parties have made final submissions, it could be deliberate subversion of justice due to personal bias and not financial inducement from anywhere....These can only be suspended or dismissed. NoNo of those instances mentioned above amount to crimes but require the disciplinary action meted out.

SO soliciting bribe isn't a crime in ur village?

papparatzzi2013:
I read the entire press release with the hope of seeing one prosecution and conviction secured by NJC.

Unfortunately they could not cite one instance, despite their long epistle.

NJC, is a corrupt body of Judges, that has been shielding their fellow corrupt Judges.

Most cases decided by NJC have only led to dismissal with a pat on the back to go home and enjoy proceeds of the corrupt .

Buhari|his Govt is only corrupt free entity in Nigeria (quote me anywhere) whatever he does is perfect, no questions asked


Btw
Recession dey, the masses are poverty-stricken so if want their support just accuse somebody of stealing billions. You know na, transfer aggression

Ubenedictus:
SO soliciting bribe isn't a crime in ur village?

Chai! Try to read with understanding o! Did u see anything remotely looking like the trashy question u just asked in the post u quoted? Is comprehension also a problem? Open ur eyes, I wrote that not all issues of professional misconduct have crimes involved and I proceeded to give a few examples.

Just because u want to ignorantly support nonsense u cannot understand simple English again. Na wa o!

Aufbauh:
Those in the NJC are bunch of comedians.
With all their days of meeting on this issue this is the crap they've come up with?

l was thinking that they might recommend Buhari or DSS boss to the National assembly for impeachment or sack and demand for the release of the ceased money, rather they are pledging their unalloyed support and loyalty to the Grandmaster President Muhammadu Buhari GCFR...... So disappointed

You did not read everything I guess. You stopped at the preamble..

This is what I have always said but the "I too sabi pass Baba God" squad no go let us hear word.

The only reason Mr President is still safe is because the DSS has blown a massive lie that it is the President of CSNAC that wrote petition that made them to be arresting/investigating judges - outside their statutory mandate as stated in the Security act - and the NJC cannot act without evidence.

This is even illegal, the arrests/investigation of judges by the DSS can only be justified if they were approved by Mr President. If they were proven to be approved by Mr President, then he would have created grounds for impeachment for himself.


They have also made mention of Judges who they recommended before these arrests for compulsory retirement and prosecution for Professional Misconduct, yet the governors have refused to retire them and is allowing them to still operate!! Why?? Nobody is talking about this, na only Sai Baba na e them sabi.

Have said this thing before, but nobody wants to hear, people just look at the judges as ordinary human beings - which is true because they are - but collectively, they represent what constitute the Judiciary which is an arm of government. Under the principle of separation of powers, which is deeply entrenched in our Nations laws, no arm of government can interfer in the deep matters of another legally as it relates to core functions of that arm.

The President - the executive - cannot be seen to be directing security operatives to prosecute a Senator for Professional misconduct as it relates to core functions of the legislature - which is law making. The house committee on ethics has to be referred to first, the house will be written to and them it will be deliberated on, and then referred to house committee on ethics. The house committee's recommendations sets the pace for what should happen, then Security operatives can de directed by the house in line with what is decided with reference to the outcome of the findings of that committee - either through sittings, investigations (whether directly or indirectly) etc.

The same applies to the Judiciary and the NJC. At the present state of things with respect to what is flying around in social media circles - I have said it time and time again but the nays always want to have it - no court is qualified to entertain this case, in the manner built by the DSS; so what was their game plan from the beginning?? If not to blackmail the Judiciary!! They did it to the Senate, and accused them up padding budget - when it was clear to all and sundry that these people in the cabinet don't know jack about budgetary processes and now na Judiciary turn.


How can you claim to bypass the NJC in such a fashion; simply because some confused persons are still shouting Sai Baba - all in the name of National security - and you think that will hold water in a court room??

Just imagine the level of unintelligence displayed by an intelligence agency?? You served a faulty search warrant on the wrong house and arrested the person inside and came to start sharing documents that are supposed to be classified on social media - that is assuming truly the matter was one of National security. See as they just disgrace themselves before the world.

No wonder personnel dey abandon the service in droves.........

The other dey, na olodo Budget and National planning minister na e no sabi debt profile for e own country (can you imagine, disgracing this wonderful country of ours in an international conference) for a budget that at least 60% will be implemented using the instrument of debt.


And you know the miraculous thing of it all?? Na jonathan fault....

Zombie them.........

tafabaloo:
Patiently waiting to see how this pan out.

Though,the whole scene look confused but I refused to be dazed.

In all sincerity, I think the NJC has not done enough fighting corruption within the ranks of judicial officers. Explanations adduced by the Council does not appear convincing enough that,erring officers are being punished to serve as deterrents.

Days ahead are going to be very interesting.

Put up a case from the communique that was not properly treated.

Like I said before now, they were actually targeting someone or some of the judges.

There are two of them, Pindiga because of Wike and Dimgba who has refused tolerate their highhandedness
Others were either collateral damage or people whose cases had been thoroughly dealt with according to the law

papparatzzi2013:
I read the entire press release with the hope of seeing one prosecution and conviction secured by NJC.

Unfortunately they could not cite one instance, despite their long epistle.

NJC, is a corrupt body of Judges, that has been shielding their fellow corrupt Judges.

Most cases decided by NJC have only led to dismissal with a pat on the back to go home and enjoy proceeds of the corrupt .

I sorry but I doubt you read it clearly!! The Job of NJC is to recommend disciplinary action and not to take it.

The Njc functions purely in an advisory capacity, they don't even appoint judges, they only recommend judges.

If you remember when amaechi had a battle with NJC as governor of rivers state. The NJC recommended Justice Okocha - a woman, who was the most senior and experienced Judge of the high court to be chief justice of rivers state.

Ameachi chose to appoint one other Justice who was President of the customary court and the oldest judge in rivers - against the NJC's recommendation. The NJC simply suspended the person amaechi chose after he went to go and do swearing. Because of this, amaechi refused to swear in any other person as chief justice and for 2years of his remaining tenure as governor, all the courts were closed in Rivers state because of the pride of one man.

The moral of the story, is that NJC simply recommends while the executive appoints. They can only suspend you after you have been sworn in by order of the executive and that's all - and even suspension cannot be indefinite.

The NJC cannot prosecute anyone, they will only recommend them for Compulsorily Retirement and prosecution. It is the executive (governors/Mr President) that are expected to retire and then forward NJC's recommendation to the Attorney Generals's office of the state for further action.

You don't expect them to act like the DSS and expect to be seen as impartial do you??

In any case, NJC will respond only to evidence relevant to the allegations on ground and nothing else. Not even to "Buhari said so".

A Senior Advocate of Nigeria, Chief Afe Babalola, and the Ekiti State Governor, Ayodele Fayose, have condemned the Department of State Services for the recent arrests of some judges and raids on their homes, Punch reports.

The duo spoke on Wednesday in Ado Ekiti while laying the foundation of the state new High Court complex.

Babalola said even if the judges were found to have done something offensive, the normal thing was to report them to the National Judicial Council for disciplinary action.

He wondered why the judges were released on bail on personal recognition after the DSS raids, querying the motive behind the move.

The senior advocate stated, “Then why did you then decide to harass their families? The DSS has no right to take over the responsibility of the police.

“If people have evidence against judges, they should report to the NJC. How can you arrest a sitting judge and take him before a magistrate to try him?

“There is nowhere in the world you try a sitting judge. You don’t take a sitting judge to court and even the law stipulates that no court process can be served after 7pm.



“It is when the judges are sacked that you take them to court for prosecution. We are not opposed to the fight against corruption, but that due process must be followed.”

Fayose, who had earlier condemned the invasion, opined that even if the affected judges stole “the whole world,” due process must be followed in bringing them to justice.

“If we do not allow due process, the DSS will soon descend on other arms of government and innocent people. They may soon descend on the media and others because of the feelings that they are not doing their biddings. I won’t approach any judge for assistance or to subvert justice in any way whatsoever,” he said.

The governor said the state decided to build the new court complex because the judiciary deserved respect and due recognition, noting that judiciary officers must also be given a suitable working environment.

He promised that the project would be completed in one year.

“When there is will, there is always a way. We have the vision of a virile judiciary and we will also go ahead to build a magistrate’s court complex after this one. I am also optimistic that the project will be completed on time,” Fayose added.

The state Chief Judge, Justice Ayodeji Daramola, said past governments had always used paucity of fund as an excuse not to build new court complexes while finding it convenient to build new offices for other arms of government.

Via SignalNg

The Nigerian Nigerian Constitution does not recognise DSS---Barr. Agbakoba SAN.
'The DSS is not recognised nor established by law. In the eyes of the law, there is no organisation known as the DSS. The Security Act only recognises an entity known as the SSS. This DSS is amorphous and not recognised and has been operating illegally all these years. In law, all actions taken by this DSS are illegal, null and void'
He says; 'the NBA is not against investigating and charging corrupt judges. Let's get that straight. What we are saying is that there is a due process and legal process. Due Process is that which is constitutionally guaranteed. Assuming the Judges go on trial ( assuming) and I am asked to defend them, I would make a case first based on the constitutional sanctity of this case. The due process was flawed. And this DSS is not even recognised by the Law'
'What about the Generals who have been accused and arrested on charges of stealing money? Did the authorities ever break down the doors of Generals?'
'The due process says the DSS should provide a search warrant, humane treatment, access to Lawyers and most importantly; the suspects signing that the monies found as evidence is indeed theirs. None has been done. Let's even concede that the DSS might have gotten a search warrant as they said but other aspects of the law were duly broken. The law is our own version of the Miranda Act'
'Where does this DSS get its powers from? Even if they have any under any act ( which they don't) its functions are basically to DETECT and PREVENT crime, not arrest and charge criminals to court.