SirShifty:

All those people you named did not explain evolution, they had their creation myths like all theists do, i give them credit for it being better than the Adam and Eve Genesis story myth. Empedocles was not even intending to explain evolution, though he certainly had an understanding of certain aspects of natural selection. He did not propose any idea of common ancestry or speciation

You missed the idea bro . Evolution remains a product of the ancient world . And modern science has failed utterly to validate it . Example : The evolution of sexes - male and female .

Talk all you like about history, people did not have the ammunition back then to explain our origins therefore they had to invoke God.
Of course people in the ancient times would have been religious, if they had no clue what caused earthquakes, thunder, how mountains were formed.

You missed the idea again bro . This response is not even germane . Anyway , the point is that these ancient people were more religious than we are today yet their ideas were the foundation on which our knowledge in this modern time was developed .

And the atheists with all the high level of critical thinking like you suggested achieved nothing .

We have those tools now and we can now say that we do not need God to explain anything, we have never seen this level and speed of scientific development it is unparalleled. In the 21st century, we have no need for God he has been driven to the point where people used to say 'Only a fool will say there is no God' to 'you cant prove he doesn't'

Science simply studies God's work . A person who says there is no God is indeed a fool .

I find it funny you say you can't name 10, while using Google and Facebook

10 atheists who were great minds could have been an exaggeration . The atheists were simply quintessential sophists - always known for excoriating religious people and denigrating religious doctrines with their clever but false arguments .

AnonyNymous:

I think it would've been better for your bible to state "Thou shall not own another human being". explicitly and clearly. But it didn't, and there are cases of people owning people in the bible. How can you tell me that looking at a girl's ass (which is in the ten commandments) is a more dangerous/deadly thing than owning another human being??

And also, Show me were the bible say "thou shall own a slave"

Seun:

God in the old testament was tribalistic. He didn't sanction kidnapping Israelites for slavery, but he allowed them to buy slaves from neighbouring tribes regardless of how those slaves were enslaved. This is exactly how America practiced slavery before abolishing it. American weren't allowed to kidnap other Americans for slavery, but they could purchase our ancestors who were kidnapped from Africa. I don't think any country has ever allowed it's free citizens to kidnap other free citizens and sell them into slavery. There is nothing to commend in that verse.

Slavery in this context is different from modern day slave 'when Africans were force to work on the white man plantation' take for example in the bible, when jacob wanted to marry Racheal, how did he pay her bride price ? He VOLUNTEER to work for 7 years, YET the bible call it slavery. So what is slave in this context ? ?"Slaves" in this
context are debtors (mortgage holders, for
instance), employees, and tax payers. We still
have slavery. You are probably a slave unless
you are an entrepreneur with no debt. Don't just read a single verse and use it to conclude the context. In biblical times their is NOTHING like bank loan, Back then, there were no such thing as bankruptcy laws so people would sell
themselves into slavery to rectify debts as jacob did. being a slave is better than dieing of starvation,. But their are law protecting this slaves, From the Old Testament:

“Whoever kidnaps someone, either to
sell him or to keep him as a slave is to
be put to death.” – Exodus 21:16

SirShifty:
Are we all born as atheists before we are labelled at birth and told we are Christian, Muslim or Hindu. Over 95% of all people in any given religion were born into it through their parents and therefore indoctrinated from birth to have those beliefs. Religious people can easily see the shortcomings in their respective religions but they fail to see the ones in their own religion.

From birth we are taught to suppress our critical thinking skills, privilege faith over reason and accept whatever our cultures have imposed on us. It is not easy to break free from this indoctrination, a Christian African is a sad site; spreading the same ideology that enslaved his ancestors. An ideology that the people who brought these ideas here are largely abandoning and today they are the biggest mockers of this belief system.

It is high time we abandon religion, so we can progress scientifically and technologically. Think of how ridiculous it is for someone to dismiss Evolution which is backed by over 150 years of research, latest technology, genome sequencing and empirical data simply because of religious beliefs. Africa is awash with religious fundamentalists, superstition, disregard for science, charlatan preachers it is like a plague on our continent. If we could drop these outdated ideas we can make a great step forward to catching up with the rest of the world.

This is a sad state of affairs

You guys and hypocrisy are 5 and 6. You live your life based on the belief sold to you by Western civilization (Big bang theory), evolution theory also started the West, you entire belief system is from science which also began in the West and you dare accuse Christians of same.

You athiest are the saddest people on earth.

Pidggin:


You guys and hypocrisy are 5 and 6. You live your life based on the belief sold to you by Western civilization (Big bang theory), evolution theory also started the West, you entire belief system is from science which also began in the West and you dare accuse Christians of same.

You athiest are the saddest people on earth.

Evolution and Big bang theory are not beliefs, they are well-substantiated explanations of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts. It is not dependent on the region or authority where it comes from. Religious people believe in what they are supposed to prove

Memes are considered to be distracting in most contexts. If you need to make a point, please try to use your own words.

SirShifty:

You clearly have not read your Bible
''When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son........ (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

People who happened to be Christians made contributions does not mean that Christianity should be given the praise, would you give credit to Islam for the golden years when they were the leading mathematicians and astronomers while Europe was a backwater
You forget how many scientists and astronomers like Galileo were persecuted by Christians for disputing the claims made in the Bible.
Yes, my current education is due to the latest contributions, people prior to that came from people with all kinds of religious background, people that happened to be Christians does not mean Christianity should get the praise
The fact is the biggest contributions today are being made by non-believers, religion is holding Africa back
Europeans are abandoning religion, the poorest states in the US are in the bible belt
Religion is a stumbling block to progress, in the 21st century with all our advancements it has served its course, God is now irrelevant to explanations of our origin

Sam Harris said(paraphrased), if a village of predominantly christians have been plucking feathers off chicken for ages, that doesn't mean that you have to be a Christian to pluck feathers off a chicken

QuietHammer:

Sam Harris said(paraphrased), if a village of predominantly christians have been plucking feathers off chicken for ages, that doesn't mean that you have to be a Christian to pluck feathers off a chicken

hmmm