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This is why I still believe that democracy is the worst form of government for Africans. The case of Libya is a clear example. If you are a leader and know that you will remain in that position for a long time or even a life time, you will do all you can to make your kingdom a better place and hold everyone and everything that try to sabotage your efforts accountable. But when you know that you only have limited time, all you can think of is to gather all you can while the opportunity last since we Africans are not patriotic naturally. GEJ and the likes of Dasuki were fighting for survival. So wasting all the resources of the nation to their own personal and selfish benefits were little of their concern.

kITATITA:
[size=16pt]If you are kidnapped. And the kidnappers receive ransom payment through the bank. And the bank verifies signatures of the beneficiary kidnappers and goes through its internal process for payment. It is still a crime by the kidnappers. [/size]

it is a crime because kdnappping in itself is a crime.Advertising on the otherhand is not a crime in Nigeria.So the case is as good as dead

Innomach:
Nope, he kept saying he collected money for the services he rendered. If you employ a labourer to work on your farm and agree to pay him/her certain amount, it's not the concern of the labourer how you get the money. All he needs is to be paid. We can only lay the blame on all those unpatriotic leaders who are gambling with the common wealth of the nation just because they were or are in power. It's quite unfortunate.

The important question is whether or not he knew d money came from d nsa, if he was aware then he can be found guilt of criminal conspiracy.

kITATITA:
Dokpesi is not on trial for being a media expert. CBN following due process in confirming payment to Dokpesi only confirms that Dokpesi received money and that the bank complied with its internal system. It doesn't free him from criminal allegation. It may have exonerated CBN from culpability.

my dear it does free him!! If he was paid for his media services through due process which other charge do you want to proffer against him?

Olumaeme:
The problem is now for ONSA to prove why he has to pay money from His office for campaign and not Dokpesi.

He has won the case already, because when you get paid for a job, you don't ask where the money is coming from, he was paid and he delivered.

Abi, if someone gave you a job and his daughter or his co-worker in the office, would you start probing where the money is coming from or why he didn't pay himself?

And some people are talking about if the money is too much for a deal, there is no where i have ever heard of EXCESSIVE PROFIT or where there are price tag for goods and commodities or services rendered.

A business man can decide to set any price he wants, and a customer can decide to buy or walk away.

he was paid and he delivered, what did he delivered, this is a pure case of money laundering, dokpesi and his co yam eaters can never escape

Ubenedictus:
The important question is whether or not he knew d money came from d nsa, if he was aware then he can be found guilt of criminal conspiracy.

Criminal conspairacy indeed!!! He did a job for government and they paid him case closed!!!

Mylove55:
he was paid and he delivered, what did he delivered, this is a pure case of money laundering, dokpesi and his co yam eaters can never escape

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kcnwaigbo:
my dear it does free him!! If he was paid for his media services through due process which other charge do you want to proffer against him?

for money laundering, the money was diverted for campaign, from buying equipment to fight boko harms to media house to fight against buhari,

kcnwaigbo:
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hahahaha hahahaha, u can see dokpesi can never escape, or was advertisement part of the equipment to fight boko haram? U guys are too funny

Ubenedictus:
The important question is whether or not he knew d money came from d nsa, if he was aware then he can be found guilt of criminal conspiracy.

It seems you don't get it. Upholding morality and law are two different things. That is one of the reasons why many good cases are lost in court. Whether he knew or not is not the issue since he is just a private business man. Let's assume your state government or local government or even a private firm awards you a contract, are you going to refuse collecting your money after the completion of the services just because you want to know the source of the money?

9jatriot:
CBN followed due process in disbursing the money. That first of all means Daar communication can no longer deny getting money from NSA. The next question is, was the said money meant for media campaign or for arms purchase, that is the real bone of contention. Thank you for making me read it again, it was even the defence counsel that did the cross examination. Except EFCC has a bad lawyer, this witness indirectly helps their case, so Dokpesi should not shout uhuru yet.

You read the post but from your response you clearly don't understand what you read...read again for like 10 times maybe you will understand clearly.

Did read the Report? ...Who is on trial? The court case here is about Dokpesi receiving illegal money through the Office of the dsa...central bank said the contracts followed due process. .. so how is Dokpesi culpabable....let wait for the judgment..

Ubenedictus:
the case isn't about whether or not d cbn followed due process in disbursing d money to dansuki (they did, if not they will be prosecuted), the issue is whether or not dansuki knowingly received money meant for arm deals from dansuki. If he did he is guilty, it doesnt matter whether cbn followed due process.

kcnwaigbo:
Criminal conspairacy indeed!!! He did a job for government and they paid him case closed!!!

No he did a job for jonathan's campaign and was paid by the nigerian military. that is clearly wrong.

Innomach:
It seems you don't get it. Upholding morality and law are two different things. That is one of the reasons why many good cases are lost in court. Whether he knew or not is not the issue since he is just a private business man. Let's assume your state government or local government or even a private firm awards you a contract, are you going to refuse collecting your money after the completion of the services just because you want to know the source of the money?

It is an issue my dear, an employee may receive payment from his employer, mr jonathan employer dokpesis for campaign purposes and then he recieved payment from d nigerian military. it is a crime if he was aware, that isnt morality tha is criminal conspiracy to defraud d federal government

deji68:
Did read the Report? ...Who is on trial? The court case here is about Dokpesi receiving illegal money through the Office of the dsa...central bank said the contracts followed due process. .. so how is Dokpesi culpabable....let wait for the judgment..

Central bank does not evaluate contract, they disburse and keep fund, what d cbn guy said is that the cbn followed due process in disbursing d fund, all disbursement protocol were followed, the got d letter granting dokpesi d money and confirmed it. they didnt say d contract was right, they dont evaluate contracts.

Ubenedictus:
No he did a job for jonathan's campaign and was paid by the nigerian military. that is clearly wrong.

CBN or Military? ?

Is there due process in corruption?

So Ait is now Selling Gun and Grenades... *sigh*

Ubenedictus:
No he did a job for jonathan's campaign and was paid by the nigerian military. that is clearly wrong.

He did a media job for the NS and was paid for the NSA case closed

9jatriot:
I may be wrong but am not aware that CBN is allowed to dole out money direct to individuals, they usually have to use banks for that. The bank is trying to protect herself by not admitting they did anything wrong. What EFCC is concern with at this point is that Dokpesi actually received the said money and then tie it to the Dasuki money and then tie the Dasuki money to Boko haram arms purchase. So CBN staff saying it was through the right channel does not change anything for now. When the time to face CBN comes, it will be investigated if paying money direct to individuals is a right channel or not.

It was not cash....it was paid into a bank account with a payment instruction and description. seriously, this case was not handled well....his lawyers has laid a foundation for successful case...he rendered a service to the NSA office and was paid

Luckylife:
The truth must always surface it just the matter of time . Media trial can never convict or sentence a person only court have the constitutional rights .

I sorry for u, keep supporting these politicians, the man now has 2.1 billion naira in his account. And u r here defending them on nl.

iOluwaMichael:
I don't really blame Dokpesi & co., it is the EFCC, ICPC, Police, etc., who have refused to gather enough evidences and witnesses against the accused, but instead resorted to media trial.

It's not really easy to prosecute a Nigerian politician after looting billions, and our judicial system is not helping matters. Nigeria is just bleeped up.

kcnwaigbo:
My dear the case against Dokpesi is dead!!!EFCC has lost this one

Why are you happy for saying someone is a thief, and you will mock common thief on the street.
Watch your back oooo.......

Well i know central bank does not Evaluate contracts, but there is no way CB will not go through the paper trail of the contract before paying 2 billion naira....it not A small amount. ....and if they are satisfied that mean the Nigerian state through it central bank is paying Dokpesi for doing a legitmate business. ... but let wait for the court .

Ubenedictus:
Central bank does not evaluate contract, they disburse and keep fund, what d cbn guy said is that the cbn followed due process in disbursing d fund, all disbursement protocol were followed, the got d letter granting dokpesi d money and confirmed it. they didnt say d contract was right, they dont evaluate contracts.

That sorry was highly misplaced you really need that sorry the day you refuse to use your senses in a democratic system of government that base on rule of law . Is only zombies that will jump the gun without allow due process or judiciary arm of govt as a competent court to judge cases, as it primary obligation . It only a zombies that will be jealous of dying on someone 2.1 billion business without knowing the full details of their transaction . Finally am not supporting any bloody politicians but am in support of rule of law in a democratic system of government , any politicians judged and found guilty by court must be sentence accordingly. Media trial can't convict anybody.

charliboy654:
I sorry for u, keep supporting these politicians, the man now has 2.1 billion naira in his account. And u r here defending them on nl.

charliboy654:
I sorry for u, keep supporting these politicians, the man now has 2.1 billion naira in his account. And u r here defending them on nl.

so are you saying if he handled a N2.1b job for the government he should not get paid? are you for real?

kcnwaigbo:
He did a media job for the NS and was paid for the NSA case closed

D media job was for jonathan's campaign

deji68:
Well i know central bank does not Evaluate contracts, but there is no way CB will not go through the paper trail of the contract before paying 2 billion naira....it not A small amount. ....and if they are satisfied that mean the Nigerian state through it central bank is paying Dokpesi for doing a legitmate business. ... but let wait for the court .

the cbn doesnt need to follow paper trails, it isnt an investigative institution, it is a bank, the account belongs to the nsa and he signed and confirmed that the money should be given to dopkesi. The disbursing protocols were followed. But it isnt d work of cbn to check d legality of d contract. Infact d cbn guy simply absolved the cbn from crime. He is clearly telling us that dokpesi received arms money from d nsa, that point has been established. The testimony only helps d case.

Jokerman:
CBN or Military? ?

NSA is d owner of d account so d money belongs to nigerian military apparatus.

kcnwaigbo:
so are you saying if he handled a N2.1b job for the government he should not get paid? are you for real?

He didnt work for d government he work of mr jonathan's campaign.

ejibaba:
It was not cash....it was paid into a bank account with a payment instruction and description. seriously, this case was not handled well....his lawyers has laid a foundation for successful case...he rendered a service to the NSA office and was paid

D issue u havent noticed is that he didnt render any service to d nsa, he render services to pdp campaign and got paid by d nsa.

Thanks u last Submission though....there is no part where the cbn official inferred that money came from "arms money" mind u he is a prosecuton witness his submission might hurt the case... but thanks for a nice Civil discussion
Dont know how this will help the prosecution see below

“Because they have complied with all the due process. We are comfortable and the process is legitimate to us,” said Mr. Mohammed.

Ubenedictus:
the cbn doesnt need to follow paper trails, it isnt an investigative institution, it is a bank, the account belongs to the nsa and he signed and confirmed that the money should be given to dopkesi. The disbursing protocols were followed. But it isnt d work of cbn to check d legality of d contract. Infact d cbn guy simply absolved the cbn from crime. He is clearly telling us that dokpesi received arms money from d nsa, that point has been established. The testimony only helps d case.