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Isaacmacdon:
What's then the solution? Living without limits? That lame agenda. A world without christianity is doomed. We are spiritual beings and need that bit of connection with the almighty.

Isaacmacdon:
Knowledge is a universal entity. Naturally, we are made to be very creative beings, all thanks to God. Adam was creative enough to even name the animals we see today. Science on its own is an entity created by human minds in a way to deviate from the fact that wisdom comes from God almighty. That's why it's inconclusive. Why haven't scientist been able to explain the miraculous birth of Jesus Christ?

Isaacmacdon:
Knowledge is a universal entity. Naturally, we are made to be very creative beings, all thanks to God. Adam was creative enough to even name the animals we see today. Science on its own is an entity created by human minds in a way to deviate from the fact that wisdom comes from God almighty. That's why it's inconclusive. Why haven't scientist been able to explain the miraculous birth of Jesus Christ?

Isaacmacdon:
lol, take heart my dear. Take a cue from the sons of eli. Those men were priest of GOD who in all sincerity were meant to serve with a clean slate, but the greediness of those men and the inablity of eli to correct them caused the defeat of the entire Israel. It's same going on currently and the people meant to speak out are silent as a result of fear and taking bribe to keep mute. Ghanians shut down their country when the government refused to provide constant electricity and the government heed to the plight of the citizens. I'm in no way advocating for a revolt, but let's call a spade what it is.

JackBizzle:
Before I go in to criticise religion, we must understand certain basic facts

1) The main problem of Nigeria is corruption not religion (religion is further down the list of problems)
2) USA and UK are secular countries. Their development has little to do with religion/christianity
3) In fact, the top 10 most developed countries (HDI) in the world are all secular and very irreligious (Norway, Australia, switzerland, denmark)
4) Religion is a tool like a gun- it can be used for good or bad. Guns are mostly used for bad.
5) Our colonial masters who took slaves from our country were christians.
5) As an atheist, islam is a worse religion than christianity with regards to tolerance.

JackBizzle:
1) Slavery.
-We were first enslaved by Muslims as early as 12th century or even earlier. Then Western white christians came later. The first slave ship was called the "Good Jesus". Slavery is allowed in the holy books of islam and christianity. Muhammad had slaves and the bible tells one how to beat slaves

JackBizzle:
2) Destroying Nigerian culture
-most Japanese do not believe in Shintoism but you will see many shinto shrines being taken care of as the shrines make tourism money for the Japanese. Nigerians on the other hand have destroyed their ancestral shrines due to christianity and islam.
-Nigerian names used to have meaning. Now we have people bearing Jacob, Isiah, and Josiah- (Jewish names).
-Hausa language and culture has been destroyed by islam and replaced with Arabic culture- why would a Nigerian's name be Muhammad Mubarak? Is hijab a fulani/hausa dress?
-White wedding is now more important than traditional wedding. Church can now say that two people shouldnt get married because they are from different churches.

JackBizzle:
3) Promoting child-birth (against abortion) and therefore overpopulation and misery
-The catholic church hates condoms.
-Every child is seen as a blessing. Rather than preaching family planning, churches and mosques welcome children and baby dedication.
-Why would a driver that can't feed himself have 10 children? !

JackBizzle:
4) Promoting ignorance
-Telling people that every problem in their life is as a result of people cursing them from the village
-Telling people that evolution is a lie
-Telling people that children can be witches
-Telling people that we are all descendants of adam and abraham (When Nigerian culture is older than Judaism/Jews)

JackBizzle:
6) Wasting Nigeria's money
-Wasting government money on pilgrimages (both to Isreal and Mecca)
-Government officials tithing with stolen or government funds
-Churches buying private jets (Are jets, jet spare parts and maintenance done by Nigerians?)

JackBizzle:
7) Promoting inferiority complex to foreigners
-Christians undying love for one of the most racist countries in the world- Isreal
-White Jesus (99% of churches have a white jesus when Jesus is most likely dark skinned)
-Muslims undying love for Saudi Arabia
-Some igbos even claim to be Jews
-American pastors are the best
-Arab imams/clerics are the best

JackBizzle:
This and many more.

Remain blessed. Ramen!

kingcity:
science have been able to explain how babies are formed in the womb, we understand how our body works through science, infact science have been able to explain things which couldn't b4 now...you are talking to me now because of science, what have religion done for you and me?

JackBizzle:
^^^
cc Kingebukasblog ati Winner01

JackBizzle:
^^^
cc Kingebukasblog ati Winner01

Isaacmacdon:
really? Placing un certainty over certainty would lead to a world of inconclusion.Science is not definite and can never be compared with christianity and not religion. Science is a world of guesses and theories. Christianity is a definite phenomenon.

JackBizzle:
Before I go in to criticise religion, we must understand certain basic facts

1) The main problem of Nigeria is corruption not religion (religion is further down the list of problems)
2) USA and UK are secular countries. Their development has little to do with religion/christianity
3) In fact, the top 10 most developed countries (HDI) in the world are all secular and very irreligious (Norway, Australia, switzerland, denmark)
4) Religion is a tool like a gun- it can be used for good or bad. Guns are mostly used for bad.
5) Our colonial masters who took slaves from our country were christians.
5) As an atheist, islam is a worse religion than christianity with regards to tolerance.


How Christianity and Islam destroyed Nigeria

1) Slavery.
-We were first enslaved by Muslims as early as 12th century or even earlier. Then Western white christians came later. The first slave ship was called the "Good Jesus". Slavery is allowed in the holy books of islam and christianity. Muhammad had slaves and the bible tells one how to beat slaves

2) Destroying Nigerian culture
-most Japanese do not believe in Shintoism but you will see many shinto shrines being taken care of as the shrines make tourism money for the Japanese. Nigerians on the other hand have destroyed their ancestral shrines due to christianity and islam.
-Nigerian names used to have meaning. Now we have people bearing Jacob, Isiah, and Josiah- (Jewish names).
-Hausa language and culture has been destroyed by islam and replaced with Arabic culture- why would a Nigerian's name be Muhammad Mubarak? Is hijab a fulani/hausa dress?
-White wedding is now more important than traditional wedding. Church can now say that two people shouldnt get married because they are from different churches.


3) Promoting child-birth (against abortion) and therefore overpopulation and misery
-The catholic church hates condoms.
-Every child is seen as a blessing. Rather than preaching family planning, churches and mosques welcome children and baby dedication.
-Why would a driver that can't feed himself have 10 children?


4) Promoting ignorance
-Telling people that every problem in their life is as a result of people cursing them from the village
-Telling people that evolution is a lie
-Telling people that children can be witches
-Telling people that we are all descendants of adam and abraham (When Nigerian culture is older than Judaism/Jews)


5) Promoting bigotry and intolerance
-we hate gays
-we hate atheists
-we hate pagans (despite we all descended from pagans)
-We hate people from other sects (Protestant vs catholics- Sunni v Shia)

6) Wasting Nigeria's money
-Wasting government money on pilgrimages (both to Isreal and Mecca)
-Government officials tithing with stolen or government funds
-Churches buying private jets (Are jets, jet spare parts and maintenance done by Nigerians?)

7) Promoting inferiority complex to foreigners
-Christians undying love for one of the most racist countries in the world- Isreal
-White Jesus (99% of churches have a white jesus when Jesus is most likely dark skinned)
-Muslims undying love for Saudi Arabia
-Some igbos even claim to be Jews
-American pastors are the best
-Arab imams/clerics are the best







This and many more.

Remain blessed. Ramen!

peacesamuel94:
NIGERIANS ARE THE PROBLEM OF NIGERIA. NOT RELIGION and to be specific, not christianity. not the government(because leaders are produced from the masses). if the citizens are greedy, self centered, and corrupt it will surely reflect in the government. Nigerians should learn To accept responsiblity, instead of pointing accusing fingers on everything and anything, Religion has done more good than harm, civilization modernization, education are all as a result of christianity.

Religion does not inhibits advancement, rather it promotes it.

Ranchhoddas:
Plenty grammar, no sense...So if we take away Christianity, we'll stop tolerating the ills of political office holders and start protesting. SMH

JhyMedex:
C'mon Rancho.. I'm kinda always interested in wat u say.. Bt dis ur comment I am nt understanding ni o...

I believe wat he's saying is ;wen we realize dt God ain't gon come down n chastise dis polithiefcians... Dt we r on our own n dis is d only life we've got...
Such realizations will make us more proactive n less tolerant of injustices dis so called leaders continue to mete on us since time immemorial..

winner01:
1) The main problem of Nigeria is not corruption, dishonesty, looting etc, the main problem of nigeria and even the world are people who revere neither God nor human life. People who do not care about human life as long as they are satisfied. Atheists call themselves scientists even though they dont know jack about science, same way some devilish individuals call themselves religious just to acheive their selfish means. Think im lying, read this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/3318021/atheists-should-stop-fighting-religion
2)When USA and UK were majorly religious or even over religious, they prospered rapidly and are still prospering till today despite having far more religious people than non religious people, same goes for most of the world powers such as germany, russia, france etc
3) The countries you mentioned are secular not atheistic. We have seen several atheistic countries in the past and how they unleashed terror in the lives of hundreds of millions. Do not side with secularism, irreligion, science or even religion
4)Religion is a tool not like a gun. Christianity especially has been used to acheive peace and has been credited for the rise and spread of democracy throughout major parts of the world. You have a voice today because of christianity. If Nigeria was fully islamic, we'd both be dead. If Nigeria was fully atheistic, well, If God wills, i might have been dead. Ive given proof of atheistic countries which have existed in the past. Atheism is not the same as irreligion or secularism. Many irreligious people believe in God. Ive led secular groups too. Stand with atheism
5) Our colonial masters who took slaves were both christians and muslims and they can also be credited for the introduction of educational institutes, health and developmental systems of our country. Christianity was also largely influential to the abolition of slavery in our world. Atheism has not solved any major world problems.
6) Christianity is the reason why you are tolerated. You want to know the meaning of tolerance: We have had islamic countries, we have had atheist countries. There have been no officially declared christian country even though we have had and still have the chance. If christianity was like islam or atheism, we would have no problems taking over the world by force this instant.

winner01:
We have tackled this issue of slavery in many threads, even in kingebukas threads. I wonder whether you people ever get tired of repeating the same thing over and over. Christianity was largely influenced in the abolition of slavery and the introduction of a system that has gotten nigeria to where it is today. its not like Atheism abolished slavery, what has atheism been responsible for except the deaths of millions.

winner01:
You people never preach the retention of our culture or even traditional religions. You only bring it up on attack. None of the traditional cultures of Nigeria is based on a NO-GOD system.
There are several ancient sites and structures still retained till today. Almost every yourba person I know has a yoruba name (If you are yoruba, you know this in your heart.) JackBizzle does not sound anything Nigerian, it sounds like a slave traders name. And this is someone who wants us to embrace our culture. I dont care if its just a moniker, you should atleast practise what you preach. Im sure you have a yoruba name.
White wedding is a foreign culture, not a biblical culture. If churches stop people from getting married, i dont really care. I only care if Jesus has stopped one from getting married.

winner01:
This is not even a point. WHy blame religion for this I hope you are not the same person who blamed religion for Nigerias lack of gold medals at the olympics so i can know if im wasting my time. This is outrageous. The Nigerian society has taken family planning seriously.
If uneducated people go against such, the chuch cant reject them like you.
A driver who cant feed himself and has 10 kids needs education and reorientation, not the hatred of atheism.

winner01:
-WHo are those that tell this people Do not forget that the african traditional religions are highly superstituous and we are deeply immersed into that system
-The church does not have time for evolution, its too busy for that lie. I was taught evolution in school, now i know its a lie based on my objective look at the available evidence.
-No one tells people anything. A child can profess himself/herself to be a witch
-WE are descendants of Adam.
No one knows how old anything really is, so keep your infinite knowledge to yourself.

winner01:
Did the Bible ask us to do any of these
-Christianity is non-governmental unlike atheism and islam and has nothing to do with pilgrimage to isreal. A pilgrimage to isreal is not christianic, but do you complain when you hear the names of looters and their looted billions
Are trains, ships and automobile spare parts done by Nigerians?
Can you ever see farther than religion?

winner01:
WE love isreal, you can go kill yourself.
Jesus is Jesus, we dont worship images. My church does not have any image of Jesus, neither do i.
the rest of your points are bigoted and terribly blind

winner01:
I dont really have time to break down the stupidity contained in your submission. WHy not open a thread for both of us on this same issue and tag me.

Thank God for science. God, the greatest scientist created us in his image and has given us the tools needed for our survival. WE will keep mimicking the creativity of God because we were created in that image.
Science has done a lot for the world, not atheism. ATheism is not science. Many of the founders of science were deeply religious. I'm a research scientist and a follower of christ. What has atheism done for you and me?

winner01:
cc: Isaacmacdon.

If you are yoruba, then eranko gidi nie. Olorun be, eniyan lo go.

raphieMontella:
yeah right!
Tell that to the muslims ----''haram''
and the scientists killed by christians----''heresy''

Ranchhoddas:
...and I tend to disagree. The statement is nothing but an exaggeration of the effects of religion in this country. If anything, bad governance leads to hyper-religiousity and not vice-versa. The woman on the street prays for her son to be healed because of the absence of quality, affordable healthcare. The university graduate prays for a job because there are no jobs. I don't see how religion is preventing our leaders from building roads, schools, and providing jobs or constant power.

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Thailand, Kuwait, Qatar are thriving nations that are highly religious. The problem with Nigeria is nothing but bad leaders. We operate a kakistocracy, the day we start to have competent and selfless leaders, we'll start to make progress and it won't matter if the y are pastors, imams or bishops. I don't see how the removal or reduction of religious behaviour is going to improve our lot. I just don't.

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Talking about proactivity, all the nations caught up in the Arab Spring were and are still highly religious nations, corrupt governments were toppled and religion or the absence of it was not a factor. I must admit that some of the greatest revolutionists the World has ever seen- che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Mao Zedong, Vladmir Lenin, Lee Kwan Yew ( my heroes, I must add) were hardcore irreligious/atheists but you'd see that their irreligiousity had little to do with what they achieved. Nigerians are docile and can be placated with bags of rice, dropping religion will not change them.

JhyMedex:
C'mon Rancho.. I'm kinda always interested in wat u say.. Bt dis ur comment I am nt understanding ni o...

I believe wat he's saying is ;wen we realize dt God ain't gon come down n chastise dis polithiefcians... Dt we r on our own n dis is d only life we've got...
Such realizations will make us more proactive n less tolerant of injustices dis so called leaders continue to mete on us since time immemorial..

Tallesty1:
Are you aware that atheists also wasted the lives of many Christians?

JackBizzle:
Are you also aware that christians have killed both atheists and muslims?

JackBizzle:
1) If anything, bad governance leads to hyper-religiousity and not vice-versa.
This statement is false. Hyper-religiousity is a result of ignorance not bad governance. When there was financial crisis in the US and UK in 2008, they didn't pray for solutions- they worked for the solutions.


None of the countries you called are in the top 10 developed countries. The most developed countries are strictly secular countries. The tower of babel should tell you that god does not help with human creativity and development

Ranchhoddas:
Bad governance----> Poor educational system----> Ignorance.

Tallesty1:
Sure. I am well aware.

JackBizzle:
Before I go in to criticise religion, we must understand certain basic facts
1) The main problem of Nigeria is corruption not religion (religion is further down the list of problems)
2) USA and UK are secular countries. Their development has little to do with religion/christianity
3) In fact, the top 10 most developed countries (HDI) in the world are all secular and very irreligious (Norway, Australia, switzerland, denmark)
4) Religion is a tool like a gun- it can be used for good or bad. Guns are mostly used for bad.
5) Our colonial masters who took slaves from our country were christians.
5) As an atheist, islam is a worse religion than christianity with regards to tolerance.
How Christianity and Islam destroyed Nigeria
1) Slavery.
-We were first enslaved by Muslims as early as 12th century or even earlier. Then Western white christians came later. The first slave ship was called the "Good Jesus". Slavery is allowed in the holy books of islam and christianity. Muhammad had slaves and the bible tells one how to beat slaves
2) Destroying Nigerian culture
-most Japanese do not believe in Shintoism but you will see many shinto shrines being taken care of as the shrines make tourism money for the Japanese. Nigerians on the other hand have destroyed their ancestral shrines due to christianity and islam.
-Nigerian names used to have meaning. Now we have people bearing Jacob, Isiah, and Josiah- (Jewish names).
-Hausa language and culture has been destroyed by islam and replaced with Arabic culture- why would a Nigerian's name be Muhammad Mubarak? Is hijab a fulani/hausa dress?
-White wedding is now more important than traditional wedding. Church can now say that two people shouldnt get married because they are from different churches.
3) Promoting child-birth (against abortion) and therefore overpopulation and misery
-The catholic church hates condoms.
-Every child is seen as a blessing. Rather than preaching family planning, churches and mosques welcome children and baby dedication.
-Why would a driver that can't feed himself have 10 children?
4) Promoting ignorance
-Telling people that every problem in their life is as a result of people cursing them from the village
-Telling people that evolution is a lie
-Telling people that children can be witches
-Telling people that we are all descendants of adam and abraham (When Nigerian culture is older than Judaism/Jews)
5) Promoting bigotry and intolerance
-we hate gays
-we hate atheists
-we hate pagans (despite we all descended from pagans)
-We hate people from other sects (Protestant vs catholics- Sunni v Shia)
6) Wasting Nigeria's money
-Wasting government money on pilgrimages (both to Isreal and Mecca)
-Government officials tithing with stolen or government funds
-Churches buying private jets (Are jets, jet spare parts and maintenance done by Nigerians?)
7) Promoting inferiority complex to foreigners
-Christians undying love for one of the most racist countries in the world- Isreal
-White Jesus (99% of churches have a white jesus when Jesus is most likely dark skinned)
-Muslims undying love for Saudi Arabia
-Some igbos even claim to be Jews
-American pastors are the best
-Arab imams/clerics are the best
This and many more.
Remain blessed. Ramen!

JackBizzle:
So, when some eastern tribe was killing twins in the 18th century out of hyper-religiousity and ignorance....was it a result of bad governance?


Odikwa not serious

TomHagen:
And it was put to an end by a CHRISTIAN missionary- Mary Slessor...Daaaaahh

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This is my alternate moniker. I've been banned.

JackBizzle:
Aye, it was a christian that ended it.

But the point was that bad governance is not the cause of hyper-religiousity.

Thank God for science. God, the greatest
scientist created us in his image and has given
us the tools needed for our survival. WE will
keep mimicking the creativity of God because
we were created in that image.
Science has done a lot for the world, not
atheism. ATheism is not science. Many of the
founders of science were deeply religious. I'm
a research scientist and a follower of christ.
What has atheism done for you and me?

JackBizzle:
Before I go in to criticise religion, we must understand certain basic facts

1) The main problem of Nigeria is corruption not religion (religion is further down the list of problmse)

2) USA and UK are secular countries. Their development has little to do with religion/christianity

3) In fact, the top 10 most developed countries (HDI) in the world are all secular and very irreligious (Norway, Australia, switzerland, denmark)

4) Religion is a tool like a gun- it can be used for good or bad. Guns are mostly used for bad.

5) Our colonial masters who took slaves from our country were christians.

5) As an atheist, islam is a worse religion than christianity with regards to tolerance.

1) Slavery.
-We were first enslaved by Muslims as early as 12th century or even earlier. Then Western white christians came later. The first slave ship was called the "Good Jesus". Slavery is allowed in the holy books of islam and christianity. Muhammad had slaves and the bible tells one how to beat slaves

2) Destroying Nigerian culture
-most Japanese do not believe in Shintoism but you will see many shinto shrines being taken care of as the shrines make tourism money for the Japanese. Nigerians on the other hand have destroyed their ancestral shrines due to christianity and islam.
-Nigerian names used to have meaning. Now we have people bearing Jacob, Isiah, and Josiah- (Jewish names).
-Hausa language and culture has been destroyed by islam and replaced with Arabic culture- why would a Nigerian's name be Muhammad Mubarak? Is hijab a fulani/hausa dress?
-White wedding is now more important than traditional wedding. Church can now say that two people shouldnt get married because they are from different churches.


3) Promoting child-birth (against abortion) and therefore overpopulation and misery
-The catholic church hates condoms.
-Every child is seen as a blessing. Rather than preaching family planning, churches and mosques welcome children and baby dedication.
-Why would a driver that can't feed himself have 10 children?
4) Promoting ignorance
-Telling people that every problem in their life is as a result of people cursing them from the village
-Telling people that evolution is a lie
-Telling people that children can be witches
-Telling people that we are all descendants of adam and abraham (When Nigerian culture is older than Judaism/Jews)

5) Promoting bigotry and intolerance
-we hate gays
-we hate atheists
-we hate pagans (despite we all descended from pagans)
-We hate people from other sects (Protestant vs catholics- Sunni v Shia)

6) Wasting Nigeria's money
-Wasting government money on pilgrimages (both to Isreal and Mecca)
-Government officials tithing with stolen or government funds
-Churches buying private jets (Are jets, jet spare parts and maintenance done by Nigerians?)

7) Promoting inferiority complex to foreigners
-Christians undying love for one of the most racist countries in the world- Isreal
-White Jesus (99% of churches have a white jesus when Jesus is most likely dark skinned)
-Muslims undying love for Saudi Arabia
-Some igbos even claim to be Jews
-American pastors are the best
-Arab imams/clerics are the best

This and many more.

TomHagen:
Killing of twins was a more cultural than religious affair, so you see that you can't solely blame religion.

JackBizzle:
Lies.

It was the superstititous pagan religion that they practiced that put the birth of twins as ominous....devilish things.

JackBizzle:
1) What kind of ignorant Nigerian are you to even argue that Nigeria's problem is not corruption? Greed and corruption have different meanings- please use a dictionary. This is not a point to be debated.

2) Religion started dying when America and Europe were progressing. Enlightenment and industrialization were not religious phenomena. Afterall, when Europe and America were religious, women couldnt vote, slavery was allowed, blasphemy laws were in place. Go and read history, boy.

3) Those countries are secular with a huge number of atheist. If you preached on the bus in any of those countries, you would be thrown out.

4) Christianity is a tool just like any other religion. Both christianity and islam have been used for war and peace. The crusades were a clear example for christian wars. Islam too has a lot of wars on its hands. You just only see the good side of religion not the bad.

5) Atheism is not a religion. Although, there were secular abolitionists of slavery if you dont know. Slavery in some countries was started by christians too. No escaping that. Our colonial slavemasters were christians. No escaping that.

6) Secularism is the reason why atheism is tolerated. If the church ran this country like the vatican, we can expect a lot of oppression from you guys. Secularism allows all religions/beliefs to prosper with no one given special treatment. We run a broken secularism in southern Nigeria.

JackBizzle:
Lies. Does the bible not tell you that you can beat a slave as long as you dont disfigure him or her? Why do you like to lie? It is in your old testament.

The new testament does not even say anything against slavery. Why isnt anti-slavery in the ten commandments?

JackBizzle:
What are you saying.....your last president's name was Goodluck Jonathan. His native name (Ebele) was not even that important to put as his first name.

We all know that christians and muslims enjoy destroying shrines. How many threads have we seen pastors doing so? Abegi....just stop the lies.

Herbert Macaulay and David Oyedepo no be yoruba? David na yoruba name?

JackBizzle:
What is my business with olympics? Stop the strawman.

The church and christianity promotes ignorance. Churches mostly do not engage in family planning. They hate promoting the use of condoms. They like baby dedication and blessings.

JackBizzle:
-Will you sharrap. Nigerian artifacts have been carbon dated to 400bc. Black people from Africa remain the oldest set of humans and so how can we descendants of some Jewish guy called Adam or Abraham?

-Many churches preach a lot of ignorance;-anti-evolution, child witches, witches from village, etc

-What of Pastor Adeboye who said that he drove for miles on an empty tank?

-Oyedepo that claims that he slaps witches for Jesus?

-TB Joshua that claims that Russian/American planes bombed his building that fell?

-Pastors that say that preach that wives who cannot pray for 2 hours are not good wives?

JackBizzle:
What are you arguing. Do christian not go for pilgrimage in Isreal with government money?

Haven't politicians been caught tithing with government money and the churches accept it?

JackBizzle:
Like a religiously confused person, you believe that a country is a chosen one by God. Nevermind that the country (isreal) is one of the most racist countries in the world. A country keen on bullying others on their own land.

Sharrap. which church is that? Sha, any church in Nigeria that has a pic of Jesus in Nigeria is always white. Praise white Jesus

JackBizzle:
Haha, I am not yoruba and neither am I a dog

kingcity:
why are you misquoting me I asked how has religion help us compared to science instead of giving me answer you just found a way chip in atheism into my post?? the point is that we most take science more serious than religion because the later have proven to be more beneficial to us.
cc winner01

Ranchhoddas:
...and I tend to disagree. The statement is nothing but an exaggeration of the effects of religion in this country. If anything, bad governance leads to hyper-religiousity and not vice-versa. The woman on the street prays for her son to be healed because of the absence of quality, affordable healthcare. The university graduate prays for a job because there are no jobs. I don't see how religion is preventing our leaders from building roads, schools, and providing jobs or constant power.

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Thailand, Kuwait, Qatar are thriving nations that are highly religious. The problem with Nigeria is nothing but bad leaders. We operate a kakistocracy, the day we start to have competent and selfless leaders, we'll start to make progress and it won't matter if the y are pastors, imams or bishops. I don't see how the removal or reduction of religious behaviour is going to improve our lot. I just don't.

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Talking about proactivity, all the nations caught up in the Arab Spring were and are still highly religious nations, corrupt governments were toppled and religion or the absence of it was not a factor. I must admit that some of the greatest revolutionists the World has ever seen- che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Mao Zedong, Vladmir Lenin, Lee Kwan Yew ( my heroes, I must add) were hardcore irreligious/atheists but you'd see that their irreligiousity had little to do with what they achieved. Nigerians are docile and can be placated with bags of rice, dropping religion will not change them.

KingEbukasBlog:
Religious intolerance is the problem in a country that has diverse religions

KingEbukasBlog:
USA has over 70 percent of its population as Christians , the UK has been with Christianity since 37 AD . Christianity has been an integral part of the development of both countries .

KingEbukasBlog:
I execrate lies . Norway , Denmark , Switzerland are Christian countries . Norway and Denmark official state religion is Christianity and both have state churches . The richest countries in the world have the Christians preponderant. The only countries who have the irreligious preponderant in the world are France , New Zealand , Australia and the UK .

KingEbukasBlog:
Christianity was even called the religion of millionaires - http://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/14/the-religion-of-millionaires-.html

KingEbukasBlog:
Religion can be used as a tool to control the masses . Atheistic ideologies like communism was also used as a tool to annihilate religious people

KingEbukasBlog:
This does not make sense . North Africans during the Barbary Slave Trade enslaved over 1 million Europeans and most of them were Christians

Atheists in communist countries incarcerated Christians , destroyed religious buildings and schools and even killed . With your logic , I can conclude that atheism is bad and the presence of atheism in a country augurs bad development .

You need this :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1928%E2%80%9341)

KingEbukasBlog:
How Christianity and Islam destroyed Nigeria



The most economically advanced and wealthiest countries in the world have the Christians preponderant . They still develop despite these "encumbrances " .

Atheist country North Korea uses political religion called the Juche ideology to control the masses . Atheist president Kim channels the country's resources to the military with the desire to subjugate mankind through the development of nuclear weapons .

Atheist country North Korea has no recent memory of halcyon times because of the oppression by the atheist government for more than 5 decades .

KingEbukasBlog:
Evolution is indeed a lie though there are Christians that believe that evolution was the process God used to create and diversify life - obviously they take the creation story as an allegory .

Atheists also believe in the existence of the supernatural - witches , wizards , spirits , evil spirits etc . More details : https://www.nairaland.com/3320685/atheists-believe-reincarnation-spirits-voodoo

KingEbukasBlog:
Christ preached love not hate . The use of bible teachings to justify hate is obviously a pretext .

Atheist countries were intolerant of religious practices and promoted bigotry against religious people .Most communist countries also had no tolerance for homosexuality and feminism .

KingEbukasBlog:
Anytime you have these puerile thoughts , also remember the most advanced countries in the world are Christian countries .

KingEbukasBlog:
Are you actually serious ? Please deactivate your Nairaland account .

Please regale us with more ignorant talks . Thanks bro