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Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by CoolUsername: 10:52pm On Oct 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Progressive creationism has not stopped . The last act of creation I suppose will come very soon . Sooner than I thought .

Macro-evolution has never been observed .
But what about ask the appreciation speciation that we've observed?

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/evolution-watching-speciation-occur-observations/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C3082710436

Your theory is dead in the water. smiley

I'm done here...again.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by UyiIredia(m): 10:54pm On Oct 27, 2016
raphieMontella:
are embroyological similarities circular reasoning ?
Read what i sent you..its a description of how the atavistic trait----tails..
Appear in modern homosapiens..
Clearly, you are unwilling to follow the evidence. Good night.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:55pm On Oct 27, 2016
CoolUsername:
Does the human cranium have an indented forehead? Do the human eye sockets have such protrusion? Look at the cheekbone to jaw ratio of the two. Look at the balloon-y skull of the human. Everyone can now see your dishonesty.

I'm done here...
I don't see it . Where is it ?
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 10:57pm On Oct 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Progressive creationism has not stopped . The last act of creation I suppose will come very soon . Sooner than I thought .

Macro-evolution has never been observed .
grin grin grin Abeg wait make I laugh well.

If you want to observe evolution pray to God to give you immortality after existing for about 500,000 years check the biological change on earth and pray to God to carry you back in time again, you will come back with proof if evolution.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by UyiIredia(m): 11:01pm On Oct 27, 2016
CoolUsername:
Genetics deals with heredity, the more similar the DNA sequence, the more closely related they are. Simple.

Of course it was my fault for expecting you to know this.
Facile reasoning. This counts only within a species since we observe ancestry within it. Not across different species.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by UyiIredia(m): 11:05pm On Oct 27, 2016
CoolUsername:
Does the human cranium have an indented forehead? Do the human eye sockets have such protrusion? Look at the cheekbone to jaw ratio of the two. Look at the balloon-y skull of the human. Everyone can now see your dishonesty.

I'm done here...
Thanks for highlighting the differences. Now does that fossil have a large cranium yes or no ? And while you are atil it look up the Paracas skulls and tel me if they aren't different from your human skull.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by UyiIredia(m): 11:07pm On Oct 27, 2016
Lennycool:
grin grin grin oh you are smart that's for sure, you can no longer hide behind the lie of being unbiased you want to claim deist ? grin grin
I've been a deist so what's your point. You apparently didn't skim the threads.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:08pm On Oct 27, 2016
CoolUsername:
But what about ask the appreciation speciation that we've observed?

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/evolution-watching-speciation-occur-observations/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C3082710436

Your theory is dead in the water. smiley

I'm done here...again.
How does speciation confute my theory ,progressive creationism? There are variants of progressive creationism though . Some progressive creationists believe the 7 day creation days are not literal 24-hour days , I disagree with that view .

I , as well as some other progressive creationists , believe the earth and some constituents of the universe underwent restoration in seven days . I am working on so many theories though .
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 11:11pm On Oct 27, 2016
UyiIredia:
I've been a deist so what's your point. You apparently didn't skim the threads.
You said you are unbiased but the way you are fighting logic because of religion proves you are not
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:12pm On Oct 27, 2016
Lennycool:
grin grin grin Abeg wait make I laugh well.

If you want to observe evolution pray to God to give you immortality after existing for about 500,000 years check the biological change on earth and pray to God to carry you back in time again, you will come back with proof if evolution.
You no well oo grin
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 11:14pm On Oct 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
How does speciation confute my theory ,progressive creationism? There are variants of progressive creationism though . Some progressive creationists believe the 7 day creation days are not literal 24-hour days , I disagree with that view .

I , as well as other progressive creationists , believe the earth and some constituents of the universe underwent restoration in seven days . I am working on so many theories though .
grin grin
Ebuka its like everyday you get more ignorant. You're like a magic trick, the more you learn the less you know.
Seven day creation, is the stupidest pile of bull I've heard in forever.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:19pm On Oct 27, 2016
Lennycool:
grin grin
Ebuka its like everyday you get more ignorant. You're like a magic trick, the more you learn the less you know.
Seven day creation, is the stupidest pile of bull I've heard in forever
grin grin
Lennycool its like everyday you get more ignorant. You're like a magic trick, the more you learn the less you know.
Macro-evolution , is the stupidest pile of bull I've heard in forever
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by promise10: 3:50am On Oct 28, 2016
Deicide:
You don't believe Evolution You either understand it Or you Don't!
Bro, when you understand something, it can still make you to believe.

There is faith and there is blind faith. Both constitute an essential part of our lives.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by promise10: 3:55am On Oct 28, 2016
Lennycool:
What unique species? You can't still believe that? Just look at the last fossil, there is almost no visible difference between him and modern humans. Read the referrals I linked. Don't judge what you know little about.
How does similarity prove evolutionhuh?

Tell me more!!!
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by tempem: 4:27am On Oct 28, 2016
Lennycool:
No, but they are outnumbered by those that are. The scientist that hold creationist view are often religious and there judgements are biased. But even if they believe in Creation, they believe in evolution controlled by God and not the literal translation of the Bible (the whole 6 days and man from dust stuff) as that holds no water.
That's great, so we still have respected scientists who believed in creation...

If a religious scientist would comment, wouldn't he justify his stand too?

That leaves us with this.
"Even among intelligent/respected ones, no widespread agreement."

and by the way, I believe in creation, yet, I don't go with the literal 6 days idea too...
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by tempem: 4:30am On Oct 28, 2016
SirWere:
Do all footballers think Messi is the King of football??
I don't know... And what's the point, sir?
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Deicide: 7:35am On Oct 28, 2016
promise10:
How does similarity prove evolutionhuh?
Tell me more!!!

Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Deicide: 7:38am On Oct 28, 2016
tempem:
That's great, so we still have respected scientists who believed in creation...

If a religious scientist would comment, wouldn't he justify his stand too?
That leaves us with this.
"Even among intelligent/respected ones, no widespread agreement."
Can you give me Examples of this "Well respected scientist "

and by the way, I believe in creation, yet, I don't go with the literal 6 days idea too...
What? are u saying your God is to small to create the World En nihilo in Just 6 Days?
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by tempem: 8:45am On Oct 28, 2016
Deicide:
Can you give me Examples of this "Well respected scientist "
The op knows these ones, if he doesn't he wouldn't have said 'no'. And if you don't know them, please consult him and make your research too.

What? are u saying your God is to small to create the World En nihilo in Just 6 Days?
Lolz!! He does things reasonably.


For example,when computing God's creative work, Moses refers to all six creative days as 'one'...
So, it'd not have been a literal day..


Sp: That's where I'm stopping... I'd read your further mentions though. kiss
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by mohemos: 9:19am On Oct 28, 2016
Answer this and I'll believe evolution

Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Deicide: 9:52am On Oct 28, 2016
mohemos:
Answer this and I'll believe evolution
You don't believe in Evolution you Either understand it Or you Don't!

Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Image123(m): 12:15pm On Oct 28, 2016
Lennycool:
Evolution is a fact and not a scientific conspiracy to discredit the bible, rejecting evolution because of religious teachings, would be like rejecting modern medicine because of your belief in prayer. Evolution has been confirmed by almost all branches of science, from physics(astronomy, general physics) to biology(molecular biology, anatomy, zoology, ecology) to the humanities(anthropology, linguistics, archeology). Any branch of science that can confirm evolution has. It is a fact, and with that in mind, we'll arrive at the focus of this topic, early human ancestors (hominids).
Transition fossils are one of the more practical proofs of evolution(though not the strongest), because you can already see the transitions that brought about modern species. Transition fossils are hard to find and even harder to preserve, but they have been found, more than once in the case of hominids.
Before we see the fossils however, below is the hominid family tree, look closely as every step along that tree is supported by evidence and are not just guesses.

[img]http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/images/evograms/hominid_evo.jpg[/img]

The Smithsonian aslo offers a more comprehensive view of the evolution of man.
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-family-tree

Transition fossils

- Ardipithecus ramidus

[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQO72i6QxPrW3AZaf1c_c3bQpKSs_HJWGwPTP43w_CO5Aqi017m7GFXD4Ot[/img]

Nicknamed Ardi, the first hominid fossil found was dated to 4.4 million years ago, bear in mind that it is not the oldest fossil found as the Smithsonian website will inform you. Skeptics of evolution should also bear in mind that no modern human remains, and by modern I mean this guys

[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGhOK9_xUf8N0UBrc5npu75rbqWh0-cyWP1TchmnXOuGRLYJAFpRJ0AW1U[/img]

No modern human remain has been found that long ago, since modern humans only emerged about 50,000 years ago, fossils can prove this also.

Artist depiction
[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTnm6nvRVs_FIz-qzyTUexpc-VLlMEX9zw2_a9ohPXzCv5vfXNTxFP9IwjNTQ[/img]

-[b]Australopithecus afarensis
:

is an extinct hominin that lived between 3.9 and 2.9 million years ago the most famous by far being Lucy. The picture below is a fossil

[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRcCPcf1HcqHwCDBRu2TpNCZk13U_lDcXbAHfUyKd_JgCt6eOMiZUxG96691Q[/img]

The picture below is an artist depiction of the fossil.

[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFdTP6BF9bRAuVMZdGhvaMM7lZtClYxVIqjLli93llPqaL8vmYP49laLcTFQ[/img]

-Australopithecus africanus: Recently it was dated as livingbetween 3.3 and 2.1 million years ago, or in the late Pliocene and early pleistocene times; it is debated as being a direct ancestor of modern humans.
A. africanus was of slender, or gracile, build and has been found only in southern Africa at four sites:
Taung(1924), Sterkfontein(1935), Makapansgat(1948) and Gladysvale(1992).

[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_v3XaX4pHTh_PrlZwG8KCDww6QbX1VsJy6pXPi4VsYW3-EJmauH4dbIkCVg[/img]

Artist depiction
[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR7ntRWMKog6N4zRSseWVQmm9CXcdYRNgVnE8dFy37oqu1NhMjOiayIrNs[/img]

-Homo erectus: Meaning up right man. Its earliest fossil evidence dates to 1.9 million years ago and the most recent to 70,000 years ago. It is generally thought that H. erectus originated in Africa and spread from there, migrating throughout Eurasia as far as Georgia, India, Sri Lanka, China and Indonesia.

[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT97rxyxZrQj3f6xQqZzQfBYSPEtPD1uM01ZbrLKb38DcNeNzCn_9RVobs[/img]
Reconstructed fossil

Artist depiction of female H. Erectus

[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCxIB2XkaqIljM4w9qc4tqiltzt_-cCsHLXKmeROoDF3gKLCoCq5GK4DDobA[/img]

-Homo heidelbergensis: is an extinct species of the genus Homo that lived in Africa, Europe and western Asia between 600,000 and 200,000 years ago. The skulls of this species share features with both Homo erectus and anatomically modern Homo sapiens; its brain was nearly as large as that of Homo sapiens
Fossil evidence
[img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQy_05PPxPHEcOd-8tpvC3OLMsDiqL47D7qGTVvefB-F_zvDD_cU6R6644p[/img]

Artist depiction from fossil

[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTB9f_es1BWhCVG5ouhivu-mGPS13ADxd1zn_85OMcOTdzL1hNvch6vWcw[/img]

You can see the full family tree at
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-family-tree

This fossils are not that of present day apes, but earlier human ancestors, they are all real and not part of some kind of conspiracy. Evolution is indeed a fact, as much of a fact as the earth is spherical, arguing against evolution is like arguing that the earth is flat, like these guys http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php
So to not be like those guys, stop arguing against evolution. As it is a fact.
You can be religious and believe in evolution

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A lot of faith wasted on reconstructed pictures and imaginations of artists talking about what happens millions of years ago. Even a baby should be reasonable enough to know otherwise. 3.6million years ago, i ate garri when i was in Saturn. The fossil and fauna was found in South Africa and my artist friends are working on the picture. i have a phd, therefore believe me or you fail. That is the sumary of your belief, it is not in vain that the Bible states in Psalm 14v1.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:19pm On Oct 28, 2016
Image123:
A lot of faith wasted on reconstructed pictures and imaginations of artists talking about what happens millions of years ago. Even a baby should be reasonable enough to know otherwise. 3.6million years ago, i ate garri when i was in Saturn. The fossil and fauna was found in South Africa and my artist friends are working on the picture. i have a phd, therefore believe me or you fail. That is the sumary of your belief , it is not in vain that the Bible states in Psalm 14v1.
You don't believe in evolution you understand it
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Image123(m): 12:32pm On Oct 28, 2016
GRIMMJOE:
You don't believe in evolution you understand it
Okay, so you don't believe in evolution also?
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Nobody: 12:42pm On Oct 28, 2016
Image123:
A lot of faith wasted on reconstructed pictures and imaginations of artists talking about what happens millions of years ago. Even a baby should be reasonable enough to know otherwise. 3.6million years ago, i ate garri when i was in Saturn. The fossil and fauna was found in South Africa and my artist friends are working on the picture. i have a phd, therefore believe me or you fail. That is the sumary of your belief, it is not in vain that the Bible states in Psalm 14v1.
Wow look at me I was raised to believe in a book written by ancient goat herders, the same book that has a talking snake and a story about humans being made from dust, not to even talk about all the worlds language originating from a tower. But you better believe in my book or you'll go to hell forever.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:45pm On Oct 28, 2016
Image123:
Okay, so you don't believe in evolution also?
Yes , I understand it

But you believe in the bible,that you do not understand it
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Deicide: 12:47pm On Oct 28, 2016
Lennycool:
Wow look at me I was raised to believe in a book written by ancient goat herders, the same book that has a talking snake and a story about humans being made from dust, not to even talk about all the worlds language originating from a tower. But you better believe in my book or you'll go to hell forever.
Don't mind That Criminal
Re: Proof Of Evolution: Early Human Fossils by Image123(m): 12:54pm On Oct 28, 2016
GRIMMJOE:
Yes , I understand it

But you believe in the bible,that you do not understand it
Wow, this is good news. One more person closer to sanity by not believing in evolution.
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