₦airaland Forum

BeeBeeOoh:
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/214398-nigeria-commences-process-kick-start-new-national-airline.html

I don't know what is wrong with this people. When will they get it into their heads that Nigeria in its present situation can't own and.e effectively manage a national carrier.

If the FG can't maintain the airports why would they be able to maintain a fleet of aircraft? The amount of money they need to spend to rehab a section of PH airport is enough to build a new airport. They need to enforce the passenger bill of rights instead of talking all this hot air about having a national airline and begging airline's to be flying luxurious planes on the Nigeria route.

modath:
How is it nice?

Name one thing, just one thing that Nigerians have over the years successfully & efficiently managed? Just one.

Bubu's nostalgia with Nigeria Airways is one i do not get, he should let it go!!!! The country need only enter into 50-50 agreement with solid biz folks, provide the infrastructures, ensure a positive operating atmosphere & watch the bird soar into the sky (pun fully intended)

Bubu won't be there forever & what happens when he leaves & the vultures gather again? They start with freebies for wives, kids & concubines before proceeding to cleaning out the books..



Cc presidency .... (Tolu Ogunlesi & his team)

Y'all need to speak with Bubu, this path ain't gonna do us much good in the long run, we don't need a "name" , we just want effective service & affordable flight ticket...

EU airlines are asking for 600k+ for a flight to US & Arik @ 400k has no inflight entertainment and only does JFK.. Make una assist Arik first by buying up 50% of their equity, inject beta money to enhance the fleet , (tweak their useless mgt staff)...so dem go fit change dem yeye plane for intn'l routes, raise the standards in flight and just up their game mega, dazall...

Leave national carrier alone bubu!!!!

For the first time, we are on the same side of the road. How I wish bubu's ear problem won't affect him from hearing this & implementing it.



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Since them born me na the same format we dey hear,"FG will commence" yet we no dey see shin shin

drnoel:
I don't know what is wrong with this people. Why will they get into into their head that Nigeria in its present situation cant own and.effectively manage a national carrier.

I just tire my brother..

The greatest mistake this government made was anticorruption + forex control. Thats why Nigeria is in recession.

As PDP lost to APC, a wise government would have left a free economy.

That way all the PDP guys would have channelled their loot into investments through proxies inanticipation of 2019. They would have invested in Aviation, Agriculture, Stock Exchange, Oil & Gas downstream, Power, Manufacturing. They would have created more jobs. APC would then have looked like it was their own effort.

It would have been a win-win scenario.

2dugged:
Until they address the reasons why the Nigeria airways went under in the first place, then this is just another futile effort, in the long run we will just keep going in circles

God bless you my sister.

You said exactly my mind.

There was Nigeria Airways before. So what happened to it?

Which kind of country is this ?

These people should stop all these nonsense.

Another dead on arrival project ..

This is a great idea! I will like to be a part of it.

this is rather confusing, this is a govt, who few days ago said it is concessioning all the internarional airports.......are they just looking for ways to spend and loot money and thereafter privatize the "national carrier" or they got plans to keep it as national lifter indeed??
am confused o. Cuz you cant throw airports to private hands and tell me you want a truly national and public carrier in place. . . . . . . .

Nigeria govt has no business managing an Airline. Our govt cannot manage anything. Both govt & civil servants are too corrupt.

Govt should provide an enabling environment & solid economic policies & let private sector run airlines. Not with tax tax payers' money.

modath:
How is it nice?

Name one thing, just one thing that Nigerians have over the years successfully & efficiently managed? Just one.

Bubu's nostalgia with Nigeria Airways is one i do not get, he should let it go!!!! The country need only enter into 50-50 agreement with solid biz folks, provide the infrastructures, ensure a positive operating atmosphere & watch the bird soar into the sky (pun fully intended)

Bubu won't be there forever & what happens when he leaves & the vultures gather again? They start with freebies for wives, kids & concubines before proceeding to cleaning out the books..



Cc presidency .... (Tolu Ogunlesi & his team)

Y'all need to speak with Bubu, this path ain't gonna do us much good in the long run, we don't need a "name" , we just want effective service & affordable flight ticket...

EU airlines are asking for 600k+ for a flight to US & Arik @ 400k has no inflight entertainment and only does JFK.. Make una assist Arik first by buying up 50% of their equity, inject beta money to enhance the fleet , (tweak their useless mgt staff)...so dem go fit change dem yeye plane for intn'l routes, raise the standards in flight and just up their game mega, dazall...

Leave national carrier alone bubu!!!!

Quite a good one !

Horsesmouth:
The greatest mistake this government made was anticorruption + forex control. Thats why Nigeria is in recession.

As PDP lost to APC, a wise government would have left a free economy.

That way all the PDP guys would have channelled their loot into investments through proxies inanticipation of 2019. They would have invested in Aviation, Agriculture, Stock Exchange, Oil & Gas downstream, Power, Manufacturing. They would have created more jobs. APC would then have looked like it was their own effort.

It would have been a win-win scenario.

Anti-corruption was a mistake, really?

I can't believe I am in this same country with you

Lie Lie Govt! All we hear everyday is "Plan To" "Kick Start" "Commences Plan"....When will action follow suit?

I am not ZOMBIEFIED!

modath:
How is it nice?

Name one thing, just one thing that Nigerians have over the years successfully & efficiently managed? Just one.

Bubu's nostalgia with Nigeria Airways is one i do not get, he should let it go!!!! The country need only enter into 50-50 agreement with solid biz folks, provide the infrastructures, ensure a positive operating atmosphere & watch the bird soar into the sky (pun fully intended)

Bubu won't be there forever & what happens when he leaves & the vultures gather again? They start with freebies for wives, kids & concubines before proceeding to cleaning out the books..



Cc presidency .... (Tolu Ogunlesi & his team)

Y'all need to speak with Bubu, this path ain't gonna do us much good in the long run, we don't need a "name" , we just want effective service & affordable flight ticket...

EU airlines are asking for 600k+ for a flight to US & Arik @ 400k has no inflight entertainment and only does JFK.. Make una assist Arik first by buying up 50% of their equity, inject beta money to enhance the fleet , (tweak their useless mgt staff)...so dem go fit change dem yeye plane for intn'l routes, raise the standards in flight and just up their game mega, dazall...

Leave national carrier alone bubu!!!!

u spoke my mind.

obailala:
As long as the management and operation would be concessioned and managed by the private sector, possibly foreign airline operators, then this is a beautiful decision. But anything short of that would be another monumental waste and disaster. The only government assets which function properly are those whose operations are totally outside the control/management of government (e.g. NLNG).

you have nailed the salient points my brother, during the days of The defunct Nigerian airways ministers, military officers and other so called Big men were fond of demanding free tickets and other perks
Believe me nepotism and corruption really hampered the airline 's profits hope a competent private firm will be allowed to run the day to day operations of the airline govt should restrict it's participation to ownership of shares and providing the enabling environment for its smooth operations and other oversight functions

Shinor:
Well said. Need I say more? Even if they won't invest in Arik the government can still do a JV with any of the reputable airlines. As you rightly said what happens when PMB leaves office? #StaffTicketRacket will start again

like the JV we had with Virgin Atlantic and Earo abi.. what is the definition of doing something same way and expecting different result? Ethiopian and Kenyan airline are the biggest in Africa I think. other prominent airlines include SA airline, morocco, Ghana, Algeria etc. I don't think those are JVs. A times airlines are national posters... even the father of capitalism invested in United airline

realnas:
you have nailed the salient points my brother, during the days of The defunct Nigerian airways ministers, military officers and other so called Big men were fond of demanding free tickets and other perks
Believe me nepotism and corruption really hampered the airline 's profits hope a competent private firm will be allowed to run the day to day operations of the airline govt should restrict it's participation to ownership of shares and providing the enabling environment for its smooth operations and other oversight functions

Absolutely, this is the ONLY way anything government owned can succeed in Nigeria.

I already weep for what the recently commissioned Abuja-Kaduna high speed train system would become in a few years. It was an ill-thought decision to leave the operation of those trains in the hands of government. During its commision, for obviously political reasons, Amaechi already announced a reduction in fares for the trains, that already is a disaster because instead of being an independent profit generating asset, the trains have already become resource sapping liabilities that would require budget allocation every year...

Sensible!!! Try network too, cable and etc

modath:
How is it nice?

Name one thing, just one thing that Nigerians have over the years successfully & efficiently managed? Just one.

Bubu's nostalgia with Nigeria Airways is one i do not get, he should let it go!!!! The country need only enter into 50-50 agreement with solid biz folks, provide the infrastructures, ensure a positive operating atmosphere & watch the bird soar into the sky (pun fully intended)

Bubu won't be there forever & what happens when he leaves & the vultures gather again? They start with freebies for wives, kids & concubines before proceeding to cleaning out the books..



Cc presidency .... (Tolu Ogunlesi & his team)

Y'all need to speak with Bubu, this path ain't gonna do us much good in the long run, we don't need a "name" , we just want effective service & affordable flight ticket...

EU airlines are asking for 600k+ for a flight to US & Arik @ 400k has no inflight entertainment and only does JFK.. Make una assist Arik first by buying up 50% of their equity, inject beta money to enhance the fleet , (tweak their useless mgt staff)...so dem go fit change dem yeye plane for intn'l routes, raise the standards in flight and just up their game mega, dazall...

Leave national carrier alone bubu!!!!

The national carrier won't be run by the government. I suspect that the FG may have a lower equity stake than the private partners.
So it's likely that private investors would comprise the management team.

Oya oya oya

Not National Airline because others have and we don't
Not National Airline that will ferry passengers like kabu kabu...


We need viable legislation to ensure it runs properly abeg

fyneguy:
Anti-corruption was a mistake, really?

I can't believe I am in this same country with you

You are yet to debunk my postulation.

EMMAUGOH:
hmm didnt read this part. If this is about getting approval from the senate for the loan then this is another exercise in
futility, cos it will end up like other speech from Lai Mohammed

the agreement will be like 20% for the senate 30% for the excos then 50% for the actual purpose of the loan including curruption an co

For those that have a death wish, you can fly Nigeria airways. better take swimming lessons so in case the plane crashes over the Atlantic ocean you will be able to swim to shore. a country that cannot maintain ordinary chairs and desks wants to maintain an airline.

FYI, the FG will own only 5% equity in the new airline

MyFavours:
God bless you my sister.

You said exactly my mind.

There was Nigeria Airways before. So what happened to it?

Which kind of country is this ?

These people should stop all these nonsense.

good but what about the gratuity and entitlement of the liquidated Nigeria Airways Staff...

EMMAUGOH:
Good and we shout when its announced but very bad when they never fulfill it and we forget .

They will fulfill it. Negative human being.

Great, another state owned company. How well has that worked for us for the past 50 years? You would think that this country would learn from history but it refuse to do so.

Horsesmouth:
The greatest mistake this government made was anticorruption + forex control. Thats why Nigeria is in recession.

As PDP lost to APC, a wise government would have left a free economy.

That way all the PDP guys would have channelled their loot into investments through proxies inanticipation of 2019. They would have invested in Aviation, Agriculture, Stock Exchange, Oil & Gas downstream, Power, Manufacturing. They would have created more jobs. APC would then have looked like it was their own effort.

It would have been a win-win scenario.

Wrong! fighting corruption was a good idea. You see corruption is like a highly virus and you must do whatever it takes to fight it whenever it gets into a system because it would destroy and contaminate anything it touches. Check this out and you would see what i am talking about?
http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/fight-against-corruption-singapores-experience

Forex control on the other hand was a complete disaster.

davidif:
Great, another state owned company. How well has that worked for us for the past 50 years? You would think that this country would learn from history but it refuse to do so.

It won't be a state-owned company. The minister of state for aviation said the FG will only have 5% equity in the airline.