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Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by Nobody: 7:39pm On Nov 06, 2016
freeradical:
You cant ever be like me same as I cant be like u. Each and everyone of us have a different life pattern to lead. If u have led my life probably u will have strong conviction that God is real and is good and worthy of your worship. Prolly if I led ur life I wud have given in to my unbelief. What is true however is that you were never like me bro.
Sure man whatever
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by freeradical(m): 7:41pm On Nov 06, 2016
Lennycool:
Sure man whatever
Lol
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by Nobody: 7:45pm On Nov 06, 2016
freeradical:
What is your prove that claim? Convince me.
It is my personal conjecture and you're not forced to accept it. I believe that if there is a God he doesn't interfere in human matters no those he care about our acknowledgment or worship. I believe all religious Gods do not exist. They are all have human emotions and their books are flawed.
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by hahn(m): 7:56pm On Nov 06, 2016
freeradical:
This your unbelief has gradually metamorphosed into spiteful hate and dont you think it is awkward hating what u believe doesn't exist smiley
What part of "it is confused, incompetent, sadistic and imaginary " don't you understand? undecided
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by sonmvayina(m): 8:16pm On Nov 06, 2016
freeradical:
The flaw in your arguement is that u keep ascribing the faults of the created beings to the creator. Do u think God erred by giving these beings the @bility to think and choose freely?
it is God that is responsible for everything..both the good and the evil..both dont happen until God says so...if the devil thus exist, his duty is to obey the will of God..before the devil thosr anything, God must approve it..if the devil disobeys God..i bet you, he will be decommisioned imidiately...there is nothing the devil will do that God will not know about..your salvation is knowing why God allowed it to happen and save yourself from it....stop making God look like somebody that can not control his creation....read Lamentation 3:38, Isaih 45:7,...explain them to me...
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by sonmvayina(m): 8:34pm On Nov 06, 2016
The bible is not a history textbook, it is an oracle or a spiritual manual every thing from begining to end is a parable you are ecpected to read the story and a spiritualist will explain the spiritual message in the story.the word of God kills it is the spirit that gives life...none of those people are historical figures..they are just characters in the story/parable...we nigerians dont understand the symbolisms, numerology and iconography of the jews...so if u ask me....the book/bible is useless to us...we had a unique form of spirituality till the slave traders. came to set us on this dangerous path that has brought us nothing but misery, we have cut ourselves from our root. how do we expect to grow? and make progress? We now see. our heritage as demonic..i think that was the begining of our problem..
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by freeradical(m): 9:24pm On Nov 06, 2016
Lennycool:
It is my personal conjecture and you're not forced to accept it. I believe that if there is a God he doesn't interfere in human matters no those he care about our acknowledgment or worship. I believe all religious Gods do not exist. They are all have human emotions and their books are flawed.
I respect your beliefs bro. Thank God u are not extreme to say God doesn't exist. Just have an open mind. I'm certain someday God will reveal himself to u and u will know d best way to serve him.

Hope u had a nice day my guy
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by freeradical(m): 9:31pm On Nov 06, 2016
hahn:
What part of "it is confused, incompetent, sadistic and imaginary " don't you understand? undecided
The fact that u can use those personal adjectives to describe 'it' betrays your belief in the non existence of God
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by hahn(m): 9:36pm On Nov 06, 2016
freeradical:
The fact that u can use those personal adjectives to describe 'it' betrays your belief in the non existence of God

Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by freeradical(m): 9:45pm On Nov 06, 2016
sonmvayina:
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it is God that is responsible for everything..both the good and the evil..both dont happen until God says so...if the devil thus exist, his duty is to obey the will of God..before the devil thosr anything, God must approve it..if the devil disobeys God..i bet you, he will be decommisioned imidiately...there is nothing the devil will do that God will not know about..your salvation is knowing why God allowed it to happen and save yourself from it....stop making God look like somebody that can not control his creation....read Lamentation 3:38, Isaih 45:7,...explain them to me...
You r confused bro. God allowing evil persist doesnt make him responsible for evil. He has told us that in future he will put all his enemies under his feet. So we know that in d grand scheme of things the reign of evil is only but temporal. The ways of the Lord is far from ours in every aspect. Yes God allows evil for a short time but its to serve his JUST AND RIGHTEOUS PURPOSE. You sir do not know the mind of God(I dnt claim to either but I trust in his unfailing righteousness)....stop transcribing biblical text literarily.
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by freeradical(m): 9:48pm On Nov 06, 2016
[quote author=hahn post=50823243][/quote]If u truly believed God was imaginary u wud never have used words like incompetent, confused and sadistic to describe him.
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by hahn(m): 9:59pm On Nov 06, 2016
freeradical:
If u truly believed God was imaginary u wud never have used words like incompetent, confused and sadistic to describe him.
I am only referencing to the "idea". That is what god is. An idea. And a very primitive and savage one at that.

It is

Incompetent - Destroyed earth twice because of sin but sin still exists
Confused - Check the first point
Sadistic/genocidal - Drowning, burning innocent kids for no reason

if this is the best anyone can come up with for the characteristics of "God" then it is a real shame
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by sonmvayina(m): 10:05pm On Nov 06, 2016
freeradical:
You r confused bro. God allowing evil persist doesnt make him responsible for evil. He has told us that in future he will put all his enemies under his feet. So we know that in d grand scheme of things the reign of evil is only but temporal. The ways of the Lord is far from ours in every aspect. Yes God allows evil for a short time but its to serve his JUST AND RIGHTEOUS PURPOSE. You sir do not know the mind of God(I dnt claim to either but I trust in his unfailing righteousness)....stop transcribing biblical text literarily.
Post those passages i gave..Lamentation 3:38 and Isaiah 45:7...please....
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by freeradical(m): 10:20pm On Nov 06, 2016
hahn:
I am only referencing to the "idea". That is what god is. An idea. And a very primitive and savage one at that.

It is

Incompetent - Destroyed earth twice because of sin but sin still exists
Confused - Check the first point
Sadistic/genocidal - Drowning, burning innocent kids for no reason

if this is the best anyone can come up with for the characteristics of "God" then it is a real shame
In your opinion God is an idea but its just your opinion at the end of the day. Truth however is what it is irrespective of what anyone thinks.

From your write up u believe Gods flooding of d earth was to eradicate sin but dats wrong. The earth was flooded to punish the people of the time and not to eradicate sin. The antidote to sin lies in Christ Jesus. God is not a sadist as u pointed. Even we sinful humans met out capital punishment as justice for crimes commited against d state how come I've never seen u campaigning against organized society for being genocidal?

There r two tyPES of atheist. The sincere ones who are actually lost souls that r confused and genuinely searching for salvation deep inside and then there is the second class who know d truth but r only out to deceive gullible people into disbelieving in God so that in the end their souls will be damned. The latter set are agents of Satan their father and will employ any tactic to achieve their aim. Which of these class do u belong to Mr Hahn?
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by LiberaDeus: 10:42pm On Nov 06, 2016
The reason why god left the tree of life there is the same reason why the writer who ends a story will most likely contradict the original authors viewpoint esp when they havent met.

The writers of the genesis story did not have the modern view of gods omniscience. They portrayed their god as a powerful supernatural creator of the world but they didnt add the omniscience feature in his fictional arsenal. Thats why we ask this questions now, the original authors didnt plan that their books would be juxtaposed with later writings called the new testament so they didnt care about reconciling this facts together. The book of genesis wasnt written to be a later christian book but as a book of cosmological origins of humanity and most especially the jews with borrowed adaptations and mythology from the sumerian origin and deluge myths.

As for the Ops direct question, the direct answer is that God didnt put a tree of life in the garden of eden, a creator of the universe would be smarter than setting up his creation for perpetual failure and prolonged suffering all in the name of testing. The story is allegorical and mythological.
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by hahn(m): 10:48pm On Nov 06, 2016
freeradical:
In your opinion God is an idea but its just your opinion at the end of the day. Truth however is what it is irrespective of what anyone thinks.

From your write up u believe Gods flooding of d earth was to eradicate sin but dats wrong. The earth was flooded to punish the people of the time and not to eradicate sin. The antidote to sin lies in Christ Jesus. God is not a sadist as u pointed. Even we sinful humans met out capital punishment as justice for crimes commited against d state how come I've never seen u campaigning against organized society for being genocidal?

There r two tyPES of atheist. The sincere ones who are actually lost souls that r confused and genuinely searching for salvation deep inside and then there is the second class who know d truth but r only out to deceive gullible people into disbelieving in God so that in the end their souls will be damned. The latter set are agents of Satan their father and will employ any tactic to achieve their aim. Which of these class do u belong to Mr Hahn?
Your last paragraph is just ...... undecided

Good night

Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by freeradical(m): 10:50pm On Nov 06, 2016
hahn:
Your last paragraph is just ...... undecided

Good night
Hahaha...bonne nuit Mon ami
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by TomHagen: 10:56pm On Nov 06, 2016
Lagusta:
When God created Adam and Eve, He gave them the instruction to eat everything their eyes could behold, but should not go near that tree, for it woukd lead to their downfall....

But Satan misled them (Islamically, we don't say there was a serpent or whatever, Na devil do am) and they both ate of it....

God send them down to the earth, but at the same time, taught them words of forgiveness, which they recited, and God forgave them....

And after the Cain and Abel story and everything, and their death, they were admitted into paradise again....

Now what are the lessons??

1) God is our supreme creator, and gives instructions with stern warnings if violated, the same way a teacher gives instructions to students....

2) Man is prone to error and sin, being tempted and misled by the devil always.....

3) However, God is ready to forgive if one truly repents, but a severe punishment await those who believe they are greater than God....

This, however is a summary, a comprehensive guide can be found in authentic islamic literature....
Una just plagiarize Bible anyhow.
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by jonbellion(m): 2:33am On Nov 07, 2016
TomHagen:
Una just plagiarize Bible anyhow.
lol ppt calling kettle black grin
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by raphieMontella: 2:40am On Nov 07, 2016
hahn:
I am only referencing to the "idea". That is what god is. An idea. And a very primitive and savage one at that.

It is

Incompetent - Destroyed earth twice because of sin but sin still exists
Confused - Check the first point
Sadistic/genocidal - Drowning, burning innocent kids for no reason

if this is the best anyone can come up with for the characteristics of "God" then it is a real shame
really
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by Nobody: 6:59am On Nov 07, 2016
freeradical:
I respect your beliefs bro. Thank God u are not extreme to say God doesn't exist. Just have an open mind. I'm certain someday God will reveal himself to u and u will know d best way to serve him.

Hope u had a nice day my guy
I repeat all religious Gods do not exist. That includes Yahweh. The God I might accept is real would not care to show himself to anyone. It would not interfere.
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by Olu317(m): 7:20am On Nov 07, 2016
Adam was a USELESS man from all indication. He was created first as in the likeness and image of God. God gave him power of AUTHORITY on earth over everything. He named all things created by God even his wife, Eve. I have never stopped thinking about how that man made all human beings sinners simply because he refused to OBEY God but listened to her who was brought out of him. Have any of us compared Joseph, who served under POTIPHER in Egypt with Adam?, Joseph was exposed to luxury and position of second in command in his Master's house. Despite the pressure on him from the beautiful wife of his master,he refused to sleep with her. Thereafter Potipher's wife lied against Joseph,and he was sent to jail. Soon after, God lifted him up to the position of second in command of the whole land of Egypt after interpreting the King's dream . Honestly,if Adam had reminded Eve of the consequence of sinning against God,the cup would have passed over him and Eve would had been recreated because with God, all things are possible, but instead, the wise man that became a foolish man followed suit after his wife. And created these numerous problem for the whole human race. But I thank God because, God decided to redeem us by sending the only spirit word being that was in the beginning, that was the breath of life , that was the hidden power of resurrection himself, that was called I AM in the personality of JESUS CHRIST and still called the I AM ..Glory and honour be to him forevermore
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by Lagusta(m): 7:48am On Nov 07, 2016
TomHagen:
Una just plagiarize Bible anyhow.
Your Bible cursed Adam and Eve with series of curses...

Whereas the Quran talked about Adam seeking forgiveness, and God granting it, and admitting him into paradise after death....

Where is the plagiarism in thathuh?
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by Oldlayez: 7:53am On Nov 07, 2016
Lagusta:
Your Bible cursed Adam and Eve with series of curses...

Whereas the Quran talked about Adam seeking forgiveness, and God granting it, and admitting him into paradise after death....

Where is the plagiarism in thathuh?
What do you mean by your bible? What of your Koran that accepted Mohammed that screwed an 8yr old girl? Be careful see your head like bicycle seat cheesy
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by Lagusta(m): 7:57am On Nov 07, 2016
Oldlayez:
What do you mean by your bible? What of your Koran that accepted Mohammed that screwed an 8yr old girl? Be careful see your head like bicycle seat cheesy
First, who are you??

Secondly, why did you abuse me this early Monday morning??

And third, there is no place in the Quran where it was explicitly stated that Muhammad (SAW) screwed any 8yr old girl.....

Moreover many Christian scholars claim the virgin Mary was 12yrs when she gave birth to Jesus Christ.....

So what are we saying againhuh
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by Oldlayez: 7:59am On Nov 07, 2016
Lagusta:
First, who are you??

Secondly, why did you abuse me this early Monday morning??

And third, there is no place in the Quran where it was explicitly stated that Muhammad (SAW) screwed any 8yr old girl.....

Moreover many Christian scholars claim the virgin Mary was 12yrs when she gave birth to Jesus Christ.....

So what are we saying againhuh
Does your head not look like bicycle seat? To think I haven't even gone near your mouth cheesy


Talk about the bible that you know nothing of and imma go gangster on ya dey ass shocked
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by Nobody: 9:11am On Nov 07, 2016
freeradical:
That thing that makes you guys slow and dull grin
Loool ... Cannabis is FOCUS for me.
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by freeradical(m): 12:21pm On Nov 07, 2016
Lennycool:
I repeat all religious Gods do not exist. That includes Yahweh. The God I might accept is real would not care to show himself to anyone. It would not interfere.
If God exists then what is his nature like. Why did he create you and everything else that exist (both seen and unseen)?
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by Nobody: 12:29pm On Nov 07, 2016
freeradical:
If God exists then what is his nature like. Why did he create you and everything else that exist (both seen and unseen)?
Your confusing my idea of God(deist creator) with God(religious)
The deist God only provided the spark needed for the beginning of everything, he didn't create man or trees or animals.
All that is thanks to evolution. And please don't start to argue about it. I don't care if you accept or not.
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by freeradical(m): 12:39pm On Nov 07, 2016
Lennycool:
Your confusing my idea of God(deist creator) with God(religious)
The deist God only provided the spark needed for the beginning of everything, he didn't create man or trees or animals.
All that is thanks to evolution. And please don't start to argue about it. I don't care if you accept or not.
I understand you perfectly well Lenny but I would wish you could apply some critical thinking to your belief. How can a creator just initiate creation and then disappears afterwards. Do you really believe everthing came to be as explained by the big bang, evolution and other scientific theories? There has been a lot of eyebrows raised on these theories even within the scientific community.

I want u to prod further on these questions. Why did the creator create? To what purpose is creation?
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by freeradical(m): 12:58pm On Nov 07, 2016
@Lenny you need to umderstand that if there exist such a thing as a creator it must have a nature. Its in the description of the nature of the creator that different religions and belief systems diverge.

Coming to yours, how can you describe its nature if its action (of igniting creation and then vanishing) doesn't portray that it has any nature. It can't even be said to be a being. It sounds more like a random spark Dan a living being. For it to possess a nature it must have formal and final causes. There must be some goal it seeks to achieve. Some end its actions play at. Take for example an orange tree starts as a seed....complex biochemical and physiological processes take place in the course of its lifespan and in the end matures into a full orange tree that produces fruit that bears seed which will be dispersed by animals to continue its specie. That final end is d cause to all the years of its germination. That's d nature of the orange plant. What can you say is the nature of your deist creator?
Re: Why Did God Plant The Tree Of Knowledge Of Good And Evil In The Garden Of Eden? by Nobody: 2:27pm On Nov 07, 2016
freeradical:
I understand you perfectly well Lenny but I would wish you could apply some critical thinking to your belief. How can a creator just initiate creation and then disappears afterwards. Do you really believe everthing came to be as explained by the big bang, evolution and other scientific theories? There has been a lot of eyebrows raised on these theories even within the scientific community.

I want u to prod further on these questions. Why did the creator create? To what purpose is creation?
Yeah everything presented is presented with evidence.
The big bang, evolution e.t.c
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