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Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by shadeyinka(m): 5:29am On Nov 07, 2016
raphieMontella:
so adam was existing as adam before being created from the dust?
Let me rephrase in your natural language:
From star dust you came from and to star dust you shall return hopeless after you discover the reality of life beyond the star dust.

Aren't we all evolution modified star dust?
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by ever811(op): 8:18am On Nov 07, 2016
BodyKiss:
Your mindset is what makes you an atheist, you won't become one by experimentation. Not everyone is capable of becoming an atheist, and you just happen to be one.

You think atheists live without purpose, smh. How many atheists do you actually know in real life? If only you know how much "god bless you" I get in a day, you won't be spewing this trash about atheists living a hopeless life.



If you can't be good to others without the promise of an everlasting life, it just shows that by default, you're not a good person.
there is different between inner joy to material gains.. I was hopeless not because of lack of income but life with all I might have acquired become meaningless to me.may be when you one day realized the truth that God do exist and you learn about his future plans for his creations, you will understand how empty you have been all the while..
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by ever811(op): 8:24am On Nov 07, 2016
jonbellion:
OP you sound like you want to become an atheist again. Lol atheists or agnostics don't live a purposeless life oo you basically make a purpose out of your life. We are all basically stardust so we are one with the universe same way the universe is one with is. This is the greatest spiritual feeling anyone can ask for. It's only rational someone would want to live forever. Even christians aren't even sure of their eternal life. They always sing this world isn't they're own but when one of thier brethem dies it's a different story. The thought of heaven is beautiful though who won't like the idea. But I've come to the realisation that it's just a coping mechanism for the fear of our mortality sounds like you still need the coping mechanism a lot
...hehehe...me sound like I want to become an atheist again?....I better commit suicide bro!..I won't want to have that horrible experience again...I always thank God for pooling me out from that cage of anger,frustration, hopelessness, meaningless life...I still wonder how you guys manage to live like that,honestly...
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by delejames(m): 8:35am On Nov 07, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Its difficult for them to admit that they indeed hopeless , so its understandable .

Bro , most atheists subscribe to nihilism - the view that life is meaningless and without purpose . Read more about this philosophical doctrine here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism
I love the hopelessness.. seriously, to be hopeful is killing.When you are hopeless you don't care,and when you don't care that's indifference.it makes one attractive..Just do good for goodness sake..
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by jonbellion(m): 9:05am On Nov 07, 2016
ever811:
...hehehe...me sound like I want to become an atheist again?....I better commit suicide bro!..I won't want to have that horrible experience again...I always thank God for pooling me out from that cage of anger,frustration, hopelessness, meaningless life...I still wonder how you guys manage to live like that,honestly...
it's like your definition of hopeless is given the fact that you wont be able to live forever I'm not an atheist anyway I'm agnostic I don't claim to there is no God. But I still live in reality
Lemme put it this way
In reality you would never buy a house that you wouldn't inspect
Your have to see the house for yourself to know if it'll be okay and it'll suit your taste despite all the claims by the seller of the house that the house is okay.
This is the case of religion except that you haven't inspected the house you just have faith there is actually a house(afterlife)
The bible even says everybody that ever lived is dead right now and nobody would rise until judgement and Christs coming. That means nobody is in heaven and hell right now
So basically you don't know if there is one you just believe that there is one and this doesn't work for me
Plus I'm yet to understand why a loving God would tourture me for all eternity in a burning abyss for something as trivial, stupid and unimportant as a belief in him. Does that mean it should turn umbelibers to living suya? undecided. Meanwhile a communist leader like Joseph Stalin can repent on his deathbed and then he goes Scott free without an ounce of divine retribution whatsoever. If the Abrahamic God did create everything it is obviously not intellegent. To you you might feel atheists or agnostics are hopeless. It takes a lot of humility to realise that you are actually nothing that you are am insignificant piece of an ever expanding universe. Have you ever wondered if animals have souls. Obviously not cuz you guys are arrogant enough to believe that the creator of the universe would give a flying Bleep about a couple of homo sapiens in a very vast universe. That you are the center of creation
Lol this is basically arrogance ave ignorance combined. You make meaning out of your life. That alone makes life have a purpose
You only live once but if you do it right once is enough
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by Nobody: 9:11am On Nov 07, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists indeed live hopeless lives , no wonder they generally achieve so little and are also filled with so much hate and bitterness .

Most scientists in the world believe in God though , so I think only atheists should answer your questions
grin grin grin
Ebukas the liar.
Atheist Achieved so little?
You should check how many important people in world history is an atheist.
Even in nigeria here the only person to win a noble prize is Wole Soyinka an atheist.
I Laugh at your stupidity
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by Nobody: 9:15am On Nov 07, 2016
ever811:
there is different between inner joy to material gains.. I was hopeless not because of lack of income but life with all I might have acquired become meaningless to me.may be when you one day realized the truth that God do exist and you learn about his future plans for his creations, you will understand how empty you have been all the while..
Guy your meaningless life is your own case. Not the case of every atheist. Your just living in a delusion, whether it be a happy one or not.
"A believer being happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than a drunk man being merrier than a sober one."
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by akintom(m): 9:26am On Nov 07, 2016
ever811:
..I tried following science theories and atheist propaganda.. I almost run mad,life became so useless to me,..I was as empty as the word empty.. I almost gave up everything cause there would be no need for anything if I have no hope of an everlasting life. if I die that's all..pls scientist, atheist and other,s who don't believe in God,..how do you guys manage to live such a hopeless life..?..
It's the illusionary hope of some paradisic place after physical death, that has deluded so many adherents into the evils of:

Intolerance
Hate
Disrespect for privacy
Terrorism
Defeatism
Primitiveness etc

It's a long therapy sessions to rehabilitate a man that is hooked chronically on mental enhancing substance.
If you withdraw the substance drastically, you make the man feel like fish outside water.

That's the same process for rehabilitating religious mind to rational mind

Like Seun said, a rational life demands more personal responsibility than some idiotic cravings.
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by jonbellion(m): 9:26am On Nov 07, 2016
ashjay001:
U, are actually living the hopeless life! No self belief, no confidence yet u want to deny God?!

Pack well, abeg! U think they share gifts for atheism ni?!
lol that's just the summary oo he sounds like he doesn't have self esteem without belief in a diety
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by jonbellion(m): 9:29am On Nov 07, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists indeed live hopeless lives , no wonder they generally achieve so little and are also filled with so much hate and bitterness .

Most scientists in the world believe in God though , so I think only atheists should answer your questions
Mr man do you believe all the animals in the world got an a wooden boat created by 8 unskilled people. Believing in a God doesn't automatically mean "I'm a christian" you know. Plus that statement of most scientists was rather bogus. You do realise there are agnostics too. But I just need a straightforward answer on the ark thing
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by jonbellion(m): 9:45am On Nov 07, 2016
shadeyinka:
Let me rephrase in your natural language:
From star dust you came from and to star dust you shall return hopeless after you discover the reality of life beyond the star dust.

Aren't we all evolution modified star dust?
are you a physicist or an Astrophysicist. It doesn't sound like you know much about cosmology. It's not an insult tho cuz everyone has an aspect in which they specialize in. As for me understanding the cosmos is my calling
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by raphieMontella: 10:27am On Nov 07, 2016
shadeyinka:
Let me rephrase in your natural language:
From star dust you came from and to star dust you shall return hopeless after you discover the reality of life beyond the star dust.

Aren't we all evolution modified star dust?
Gen 3:19
“By the sweat of your face You will eat bread Until
you return to the ground, For from it you were
taken; For you are dust, And to dust you shall
return.”
AMPC
it said YOU are dust...and not YOu were given this body of dust or so ....this statement was directed to adam...so i ask-------
Was adam existing as Adam before Yahweh created him?
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by raphieMontella: 10:28am On Nov 07, 2016
Lennycool:
grin grin grin
Ebukas the liar.
Atheist Achieved so little?
You should check how many important people in world history is an atheist.
Even in nigeria here the only person to win a noble prize is Wole Soyinka an atheist.
I Laugh at your stupidity
leave am!
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by promise10: 12:42pm On Nov 07, 2016
ever811:
...hehehe...me sound like I want to become an atheist again?....I better commit suicide bro!..I won't want to have that horrible experience again...I always thank God for pooling me out from that cage of anger,frustration, hopelessness, meaningless life...I still wonder how you guys manage to live like that,honestly...
bro, i can't look down on your sincerity!

Atheism is something i have been into, it give meaninglessness to life!

If atheism is true, doing good doesn't makes sense. Nothing makes sense.

in fact the core of atheism is SENSELESSNESS AND MEANINGLESSNESS.
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by promise10: 12:44pm On Nov 07, 2016
delejames:
I love the hopelessness.. seriously, to be hopeful is killing.When you are hopeless you don't care,and when you don't care that's indifference.it makes one attractive..Just do good for goodness sake..
In atheism, the bolded doesn't make sense. you know why? IT DOES NOT MATTER! WE ARE ALL DUST!

SO HOPELESS!
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by promise10: 12:47pm On Nov 07, 2016
ever811:
..I tried following science theories and atheist propaganda.. I almost run mad,life became so useless to me,..I was as empty as the word empty.. I almost gave up everything cause there would be no need for anything if I have no hope of an everlasting life. if I die that's all..pls scientist, atheist and other,s who don't believe in God,..how do you guys manage to live such a hopeless life..?..
It better to end my life now, if atheism is true!

because it doesn't give sense to life. Because, nothing would matter!
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by Seun(mod): 3:47pm On Nov 07, 2016
promise10:
It better to end my life now, if atheism is true! because it doesn't give sense to life. Because, nothing would matter!
That's a silly thought. Religion doesn't give meaning to life; people do. People choose to use their lives for meaningful and fulfilling things.
Religion teaches that the purpose of life is to die and go to paradise where you get to spend the rest of eternity praising God. How boring.
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by jonbellion(m): 3:50pm On Nov 07, 2016
Seun:
That's a silly thought. Religion doesn't give meaning to life; people do. People choose to use their lives for meaningful and fulfilling things.
Religion teaches that the purpose of life is to die and go to paradise where you get to spend the rest of eternity praising God. How boring.
lol just forget this religious people this is basically arrogance at it's finest
They think the universe revolves around them that they are a "special creation"
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by raphieMontella: 4:19pm On Nov 07, 2016
promise10:
It better to end my life now, if atheism is true!
because it doesn't give sense to life. Because, nothing would matter!
for once... Be reasonable..abeg?
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by ever811(op): 4:24pm On Nov 07, 2016
jonbellion:
Mr man do you believe all the animals in the world got an a wooden boat created by 8 unskilled people. Believing in a God doesn't automatically mean "I'm a christian" you know. Plus that statement of most scientists was rather bogus. You do realise there are agnostics too. But I just need a straightforward answer on the ark thing
with God all things are possible.... even if someone were to do a live coverage of the event and you saw it,you will still not believe so..just be who you are..
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by ever811(op): 4:27pm On Nov 07, 2016
raphieMontella:
it said YOU are dust...and not YOu were given this body of dust or so ....this statement was directed to adam...so i ask-------
Was adam existing as Adam before Yahweh created him?
make small use of your brain naa..what do you have it for?....when was the statement made and when was Adam created?
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by ever811(op): 4:33pm On Nov 07, 2016
Seun:
That's a silly thought. Religion doesn't give meaning to life; people do. People choose to use their lives for meaningful and fulfilling things.
Religion teaches that the purpose of life is to die and go to paradise where you get to spend the rest of eternity praising God. How boring.
..and what are the meaningful and fulfilling things?..food and sex abi?..my own meaningful and fulfilling things is to die and resurrect to live forever?..
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by jonbellion(m): 4:36pm On Nov 07, 2016
ever811:
with God all things are possible.... even if someone were to do a live coverage of the event and you saw it,you will still not believe so..just be who you are..
lol so you believe that all the marsupials crossed the indian ocean all the way to mount Ararat and crossed back to Australia without any evidence of thier migration and we do not see any marsupial in any part of the middle east and they or Africa. Basically we do not see evidence of such a migration
You believe that plants can stay a year underwater
The Wyoming a wooden boat was built in the 1900s by the best craftsmen in the world
It would seriously twist in the waters
And you believe a heavy global flood would not capsize a wooden boat built by someone who didn't have the slightest knowledge of architecture engineering and physics
You ACTUALLY believe two animals can generate an entire species
Apparently you don't know how many animals it takes to classify an animal as being in danger of extinction lol you obviously don't
I'm agnostic but this fairy tale is an insult to anybody's intellegence and creationist "scientists" trying to explain it away with thier absurd assumptions is just laughable and ridiculous
Chao
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by Seun(mod): 5:08pm On Nov 07, 2016
ever811:
..and what are the meaningful and fulfilling things?..food and sex abi?..my own meaningful and fulfilling things is to die and resurrect to live forever?..
Bill Gates is trying to eradicate malaria. That's meaningful, isn't it? If he can achieve it then on his deathbed he can say to himself, "I did good".
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by shadeyinka(m): 5:25pm On Nov 07, 2016
jonbellion:
are you a physicist or an Astrophysicist. It doesn't sound like you know much about cosmology. It's not an insult tho cuz everyone has an aspect in which they specialize in. As for me understanding the cosmos is my calling
Sorry! I think you misunderstood me.

I actually heard this phrase from atheists claiming that they are star dust.

By that they meant that they are just part of what the big bang produced {dust} and they are just living because evolution and selection picked up atoms that became them.

These atheists are technically not wrong. Conservation of matter.
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by ever811(op): 5:36pm On Nov 07, 2016
jonbellion:
lol so you believe that all the marsupials crossed the indian ocean all the way to mount Ararat and crossed back to Australia without any evidence of thier migration and we do not see any marsupial in any part of the middle east and they or Africa. Basically we do not see evidence of such a migration
You believe that plants can stay a year underwater
The Wyoming a wooden boat was built in the 1900s by the best craftsmen in the world
It would seriously twist in the waters
And you believe a heavy global flood would not capsize a wooden boat built by someone who didn't have the slightest knowledge of architecture engineering and physics
You ACTUALLY believe two animals can generate an entire species
Apparently you don't know how many animals it takes to classify an animal as being in danger of extinction lol you obviously don't
I'm agnostic but this fairy tale is an insult to anybody's intellegence and creationist "scientists" trying to explain it away with thier absurd assumptions is just laughable and ridiculous
Chao
if God can create the whole universe with his word, how can't your brain carry you as far as realizing that,such one can make anything happens according to his will?..he can put the whole animals and planet I a coke bottle if I want..he told moses that he will wipe away all the Israelites and use only Moses to fulfill his promise of making Abraham offsprings a great nation..that's one not two animals..all you find impossible as a human are little things for the great one who has given you the brain that you are using against him now..listen to what God said in the bible...... your ways are not my ways ,neighter your thoughts my thoughts.. as the heavens is far from the earth so are my ways far away from the son of man..my dear the more we claim to know that's when we know nothing...
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by ever811(op): 5:38pm On Nov 07, 2016
Seun:
Bill Gates is trying to eradicate malaria. That's meaningful, isn't it? If he can achieve it then on his deathbed he can say to himself, "I did good".
nothing is good or evil as an atheist, know the basis of your believe..
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by jonbellion(m): 5:44pm On Nov 07, 2016
ever811:
if God can create the whole universe with his word, how can't your brain carry you as far as realizing that,such one can make anything happens according to his will?..he can put the whole animals and planet I a coke bottle if I want..he told moses that he will wipe away all the Israelites and use only Moses to fulfill his promise of making Abraham offsprings a great nation..that's one not two animals..all you find impossible as a human are little things for the great one who has given you the brain that you are using against him now..listen to what God said in the bible...... your ways are not my ways ,neighter your thoughts my thoughts.. as the heavens is far from the earth so are my ways far away from the son of man..my dear the more we claim to know that's when we know nothing...
for real bro
For real

Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:01pm On Nov 07, 2016
Seun:
Bill Gates is trying to eradicate malaria. That's meaningful, isn't it? If he can achieve it then on his deathbed he can say to himself, "I did good".
Bill Gates is not an atheist , repeating it after it has been refuted so many times is fallacious - argument from repetition .
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by hopefulLandlord: 9:10pm On Nov 07, 2016
promise10:
It better to end my life now, if atheism is true!
because it doesn't give sense to life. Because, nothing would matter!

Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by Icecream4U(m): 9:20pm On Nov 07, 2016
ever811:
..and what are the meaningful and fulfilling things?..food and sex abi?..my own meaningful and fulfilling things is to die and resurrect to live forever?..
imagine!
Who told you there is a power somewhere to make you resurrect and live forever when you die? And you believed it to the extent that you made it your own meaningful thing?? shocked
Re: Scientist,atheist And Others How Is It Possible?.. by ever811(op): 9:39pm On Nov 07, 2016
Icecream4U:
imagine!
Who told you there is a power somewhere to make you resurrect and live forever when you die? And you believed it to the extent that you made it your own meaningful thing?? shocked
and who told you such power doesn't exist?..
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