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See what the atheists must believe and accept wholeheartedly; They must believed that; 1.Nature CAN NEITHER DIE NOR LIVE, yet a creature that CAN LIVE AND DIE evolved from the same very nature. 2. Nature CAN NEITHER SLEEP NOR DREAM,yet a creature that CAN SLEEP AND DREAM evolved from the same very nature 3.Nature is BLIND, yet a creature that can SEE evolved from the same very nature. 4.Nature is DEAF yet a creature that can HEAR evolved from the same very nature. 5.Nature is DUMB, yet a creature that can TALK and SPEAK different languages evolved from the same very nature. 6.Nature is NOT a KNOWLEDGEABLE entity ,yet a creature that CAN KNOW and SEARCH for KNOWLEDGE to the extent of OBSERVING ITS OWN BRAIN in the laboratory evolved from the same very nature. 7.Nature is NOT INTELLIGENT, yet an INTELLIGENT creature evolved from the same very nature. 8.Nature is NOT SELF-AWARE, yet a creature with FULL SELF AWARENESS evolved from the same very nature. 9.Nature CANNOT THINK yet , a creature that CAN THINK logically and formulate a rational argument evolved from the same very nature. 10.Nature CANNOT MOVE VOLUNTARILY AND CONTROLLABLY yet a creature that CAN MOVE VOLUNTARILY AND CONTROLLABLY evolved from the same very nature. 11.Nature CAN NOT EXPERIENCE ANY EMOTIONAL FEELINGS, yet a creature that CAN EXPERIENCE FEELINGS LIKE LOVE, ANGER, HAPPINESS, SADNESS etc evolve from the same very nature. 12. Nature is MORALLY NEUTRAL, yet a creature that can MORALLY DISTINGUISH between RIGHT AND WRONG, GOOD AND EVIL evolved from the same very nature. 13. Nature CANNOT FOUND ANY CIVILIZATION, yet a creature CAPABLE OF FOUNDLING CIVILIZATIONS like Education, Marriage, Politics, Governments,Religion, Sports and Entertainments, etc evolved from the same very nature. 14. Nature completely LACKS THE ABILITY TO BELIEVE in any concept, yet a creature THAT CAN BELIEVE in a concept like ATHEISM, Naturalism, and Physicalism evolved from the same very nature. 15. Nature CANNOT EXAMINE AND EXPLORE ITSELF, yet a creature that CAN EXAMINE AND EXPLORE the nature to the extent of PROPOUNDING SOME NATURAL LAWS evolved from the same very nature. See what the atheists must embrace without any iota of doubt- A chain of amazing and wonderful features which are NOWHERE to be found in any part of the nature were later evolved from the SAME VERY nature as a result of ACCUMULATED RANDOM PROCESSES - an illogical and contradictory belief. Yet the same people will be blaming and laughing at the religious people for believing in God. Which one is more reasonable and logical: to believe that those amazing and wonderful features possessed by human being were deliberately created by God or to believe that these features JUST evolved due to random processes accumulated over billions of years? Since, according to the atheists, nature is a CLOSED system, a chain of amazing and wonderful features which are NOWHERE to be found in any part of the nature in the time PAST can NEVER be FOUND at this PRESENT time because NOTHING CAN GIVE TO ITSELF WHAT IT DOES NOT HAVE. Just consider our ability to SEE AND HEAR; there is no way for science to completely account for these two features without being get stuck along the way. We are told that the light and sound signals which enter our sensory systems were firstly converted into electrical impulse signals . These electrical impulse signals were then conveyed to the brain through the nerves. Even if we assume a costly assumption that the brain was able to reconvert those electrical impulse signals back to the original visual and sound perceptions, there is still need for the "inner eye" and the "inner ear" to gaze and listen to these assumed perceptions formed in the Brain. Yet there is no way to account for these "inner eye and inner ear" (which the theists depicted as soul or spirit) in a purely atheistic and material world. Furthermore, consider our ability to talk and speak in a coherent manner:1.How are we able to select an appropriate word at a particular point in time from vast number of words stored in our brain during speech production? 2.How does the brain even managed to store and retrieve those words? 3.How does the the vocal apparatus ( which consist of the tongue,lips, teeth etc) managed to be informed within the shortest period of time regarding the words selected by the brain? 4.How did vocal apparatus managed to coordinate its activities to ensure the correct pronunciation of those words? 5.How and why did present human species manage to have over 6000 languages given that a child always speak the same language he heard from his parents or relatives? 6.Are we to suppose that the first man and woman on earth were blessed with thousands of languages? 7.How are we able to switch voluntarily from one language to another during speech production? 8.How are we able to pause voluntarily during speech production? 9.How are we able to change the tone of our voice voluntarily during speech production? 10.How are we able to increase or decrease voluntarily the loudness of our voice during speech production?All these events are nothing but miracles. Any natural process can only be based on chance or follow some predetermined set of laws. Therefore, if all activities going on in our brain is purely and ultimately determined by natural process,the only instrument present in atheistic world, then the manner of our speech production will be based purely on chance or based on some predetermined set of laws. Under this condition, all the TEN events enumerated above would be absolutely impossible as they obviously not based on chance or any strict predetermined set of law: They are are purely voluntary actions based on intensional decision.

lol here we go again with naive arguments poorly represented.

johnydon22:
lol here we go again with naive arguments poorly represented.

lol these people are tiring

Abdulgaffar22:
See what the atheists must believe and accept wholeheartedly; They must believed that; 1.Nature CAN NEITHER LIVE NOR DIE, yet a creature THAT CAN LIVE AND DIE evolved from the same very nature 2.Nature is BLIND, yet a creature that can SEE evolved from the same very nature. 3.Nature is DEAF yet a creature that can HEAR evolved from the same very nature. 4.Nature is DUMB, yet a creature that can TALK and SPEAK different languages evolved from the same very nature. 5. Nature is NOT a KNOWLEDGEABLE entity ,yet a creature that CAN KNOW and SEARCH for KNOWLEDGE evolved from the same very nature. 6.Nature is NOT INTELLIGENT, yet an INTELLIGENT creature evolved from the same very nature. 7.Nature is NOT SELF-AWARE, yet a creature with FULL SELF AWARENESS evolved from the same very nature. 8.Nature CANNOT THINK yet , a creature that CAN THINK logically and formulate a rational argument evolved from the same very nature. 9.Nature CANNOT MOVE VOLUNTARILY AND CONTROLLABLY yet a creature that CAN MOVE VOLUNTARILY AND CONTROLLABLY evolved from the same nature. 10.Nature CAN NOT EXPERIENCE ANY EMOTIONAL FEELINGS, yet a creature that CAN EXPERIENCE FEELINGS LIKE LOVE, ANGER HAPPINESS, SADNESS etc evolve from the same very nature. See what the atheists must embrace without any iota of doubt- A chain of amazing and wonderful features which are NOWHERE be found in any part of the nature were later evolved from the SAME VERY nature as a result of ACCUMULATED RANDOM PROCESS - an illogical and contradictory belief. Yet the same people will be blaming and laughing at the religious people for believing in God. Which one is more reasonable and logical: to believe that those amazing and wonderful features possessed by human being were deliberately created by God or to believe that these features just evolved due to random process accumulated over billions of years

I agree with u on this.

Atheism is the worst self defeating argument.

oh boy!

jonbellion:
lol these people are tiring

its unbelievable

johnydon22:
lol here we go again with naive arguments poorly represented.

Its fallacious to dismiss someone's argument as not worthy of consideration or claim the argument is absurd without giving proof of its absurdity .

Logical fallacies = illogical thinking/response

Try again

Abdulgaffar22:
See what the atheists must believe and accept wholeheartedly; They must believed that; 1.Nature CAN NEITHER LIVE NOR DIE, yet a creature THAT CAN LIVE AND DIE evolved from the same very nature 2.Nature is BLIND, yet a creature that can SEE evolved from the same very nature. 3.Nature is DEAF yet a creature that can HEAR evolved from the same very nature. 4.Nature is DUMB, yet a creature that can TALK and SPEAK different languages evolved from the same very nature. 5. Nature is NOT a KNOWLEDGEABLE entity ,yet a creature that CAN KNOW and SEARCH for KNOWLEDGE to the extent of OBSERVING ITS OWN BRAIN in the laboratory evolved from the same very nature. 6.Nature is NOT INTELLIGENT, yet an INTELLIGENT creature evolved from the same very nature. 7.Nature is NOT SELF-AWARE, yet a creature with FULL SELF AWARENESS evolved from the same very nature. 8.Nature CANNOT THINK yet , a creature that CAN THINK logically and formulate a rational argument evolved from the same very nature. 9.Nature CANNOT MOVE VOLUNTARILY AND CONTROLLABLY yet a creature that CAN MOVE VOLUNTARILY AND CONTROLLABLY evolved from the same nature. 10.Nature CAN NOT EXPERIENCE ANY EMOTIONAL FEELINGS, yet a creature that CAN EXPERIENCE FEELINGS LIKE LOVE, ANGER HAPPINESS, SADNESS etc evolve from the same very nature. 11. Nature is MORALLY NEUTRAL, yet a creature that can MORALLY DISTINGUISH between RIGHT AND WRONG evolved from the same very nature. 12. Nature CANNOT FOUND ANY CIVILIZATION, yet a creature CAPABLE OF FOUNDLING CIVILIZATIONS like Education, Marriage, Politics, Sports and Entertainments,Religion etc evolved from the same very nature.See what the atheists must embrace without any iota of doubt- A chain of amazing and wonderful features which are NOWHERE to be found in any part of the nature were later evolved from the SAME VERY nature as a result of ACCUMULATED RANDOM PROCESS - an illogical and contradictory belief. Yet the same people will be blaming and laughing at the religious people for believing in God. Which one is more reasonable and logical: to believe that those amazing and wonderful features possessed by human being were deliberately created by God or to believe that these features just evolved due to random process accumulated over billions of years

seriously did you honestly think you made any sense?

raphieMontella:
seriously did you honestly think you made any sense?

me self don tire for dem
they keep mixing atheism and evolution and they keep repeating it, hoping they might start believing it someday

hopefulLandlord:
me self don tire for dem

they keep mixing atheism and evolution
and they keep repeating it, hoping they might start believing it someday

Mr Pastafarian how you doing?

naijadeyhia:
Mr Pastafarian how you doing?

I am a Pastafarian and I'm fine

felixomor:
I agree with u on this.

Atheism is the worst self defeating argument.

As far as It's against Atheism it doesn't matter if it's From a Muslim...

@Op i didn't Know The Muslims Where This Dumb o Even The Christians day Try pass Wuna..

Atheism is not self-contradictory but it is illogical. There is strong evidence for God from the fact of the genetic code in lifeforms and the presence of consciousness esp in humans. As such, atheism ignores the evidence for God. I find it curious though that atheists expect direct evidence of spectacular miracles to occur to believe in God. And yet they don't apply such reasoning to universal common descent which can't be observed but is inferred from circumstantial evidence.

raphieMontella:
seriously did you honestly think you made any sense?

EyeHateGod:
@Op i didn't Know The Muslims Where This Dumb o Even The Christians day Try pass Wuna..

Alright he didn't make any sense. Prove it

EyeHateGod:
As far as It's against Atheism it doesn't matter if it's From a Muslim...

Yes o.
Atheism is as good as a blind man telling us purple doesnt exist.

felixomor:
Yes o.
Atheism is as good as a blind man telling us purple doesnt exist.

Christianity is as Good as Telling you It has Found the Match in A dark room when In reality there is no Match in the room...

EyeHateGod:
Christianity is as Good as Telling you It has Found the Match in A dark room when In reality there is no Match in the room...

And what is the dark room?

Moreover, I have found a match in a dark room before.
So doesnt add up.

abduljabbar4:
Alright he didn't make any sense. Prove it

Dude, he obviously gaffed.

He muddled evolution and atheism and then basically just went overboard with the illogical lines of thinking.


Clear as fucking day.

UyiIredi:
Atheism is not self-contradictory but it is illogical. There is strong evidence for God from the fact of the genetic code in lifeforms and the presence of consciousness esp in humans. As such, atheism ignores the evidence for God. I find it curious though that atheists expect direct evidence of spectacular miracles to occur to believe in God. And yet they don't apply such reasoning to universal common descent which can't be observed but is inferred from circumstantial evidence.

Dude, seeing is believing.


Besides, Atheists are not asking for extradionarily spectacular miracles when you consider the great feats wrought by God in the religious texts.

We have talking donkeys, Impossibly constructed arks, A sea parting, pillars of fire, the SUN stopping for a DAY; dead people rising, the moon being split in half and all those claims.


Simple question :

You have done it before.
Do it again

SirWere:
Dude, seeing is believing.


Besides, Atheists are not asking for extradionarily spectacular miracles when you consider the great feats wrought by God in the religious texts.

We have talking donkeys, Impossibly constructed arks, A sea parting, pillars of fire, the SUN stopping for a DAY; dead people rising, the moon being split in half and all those claims.


Simple question :

You have done it before.
Do it again

the worst is just that ark one

jonbellion:
the worst is just that ark one

Even they don't know how to wriggle out of that one....

The more enlightened of them are starting to call it symbolic...... Quite expected sha

SirWere:
Dude, seeing is believing.


Besides, Atheists are not asking for extradionarily spectacular miracles when you consider the great feats wrought by God in the religious texts.

We have talking donkeys, Impossibly constructed arks, A sea parting, pillars of fire, the SUN stopping for a DAY; dead people rising, the moon being split in half and all those claims.


Simple question :

You have done it before.
Do it again

Deists don't make all those claims. Why don't you believe in their God ?

UyiIredi:
Deists don't make all those claims. Why don't you believe in their God ?

Deism sees God as more of an impersonal Creator.....

And I don't really think he would care about my belief/unbelief.

SirWere:
Deism sees God as more of an impersonal Creator.....

And I don't really think he would care about my belief/unbelief.

Interesting. But that doesn't answer the question which was why u don't believe in deism ?

UyiIredi:
Interesting. But that doesn't answer the question which was why u don't believe in deism ?

Because deism plays with the word "God".

They remove it and tag it with every concept you can imagine.

A deist can say "God is energy".

And we can't fault his definition.
However, he has shortchanged the word "God"

Abdulgaffar22:
See what the atheists must believe and accept wholeheartedly; They must believed that; 1.Nature CAN NEITHER LIVE NOR DIE, yet a creature THAT CAN LIVE AND DIE evolved from the same very nature 2.Nature is BLIND, yet a creature that can SEE evolved from the same very nature. 3.Nature is DEAF yet a creature that can HEAR evolved from the same very nature. 4.Nature is DUMB, yet a creature that can TALK and SPEAK different languages evolved from the same very nature. 5. Nature is NOT a KNOWLEDGEABLE entity ,yet a creature that CAN KNOW and SEARCH for KNOWLEDGE to the extent of OBSERVING ITS OWN BRAIN in the laboratory evolved from the same very nature. 6.Nature is NOT INTELLIGENT, yet an INTELLIGENT creature evolved from the same very nature. 7.Nature is NOT SELF-AWARE, yet a creature with FULL SELF AWARENESS evolved from the same very nature. 8.Nature CANNOT THINK yet , a creature that CAN THINK logically and formulate a rational argument evolved from the same very nature. 9.Nature CANNOT MOVE VOLUNTARILY AND CONTROLLABLY yet a creature that CAN MOVE VOLUNTARILY AND CONTROLLABLY evolved from the same nature. 10.Nature CAN NOT EXPERIENCE ANY EMOTIONAL FEELINGS, yet a creature that CAN EXPERIENCE FEELINGS LIKE LOVE, ANGER HAPPINESS, SADNESS etc evolve from the same very nature. 11. Nature is MORALLY NEUTRAL, yet a creature that can MORALLY DISTINGUISH between RIGHT AND WRONG evolved from the same very nature. 12. Nature CANNOT FOUND ANY CIVILIZATION, yet a creature CAPABLE OF FOUNDLING CIVILIZATIONS like Education, Marriage, Politics, Sports and Entertainments,Religion etc evolved from the same very nature.See what the atheists must embrace without any iota of doubt- A chain of amazing and wonderful features which are NOWHERE to be found in any part of the nature were later evolved from the SAME VERY nature as a result of ACCUMULATED RANDOM PROCESS - an illogical and contradictory belief. Yet the same people will be blaming and laughing at the religious people for believing in God. Which one is more reasonable and logical: to believe that those amazing and wonderful features possessed by human being were deliberately created by God or to believe that these features just evolved due to random process accumulated over billions of years

You are now making sense. I agree with u here.

raphieMontella:
seriously did you honestly think you made any sense?

Ya, even Ebuka and flexiomor thinks he made sense. Lol @ atheism thinks nature is dumb.

Theists think God has ears and digestive system... They also think God poos

true2god:
You are now making sense. I agree with u here.

Oh my God. You think that crap makes sense.

SirWere:
Because deism plays with the word "God".

They remove it and tag it with every concept you can imagine.

A deist can say "God is energy".

And we can't fault his definition.
However, he has shortchanged the word "God"

They don't really. Deism generally defines God as a Creator who made the world and left it to run. Simple as that. Your reason is a poor one.

UyiIredi:
They don't really. Deism generally defines God as a Creator who made the world and left it to run. Simple as that. Your reason is a poor one.

And why is believing in that important? Who e epp?

Recall the bolded statement is just a theory based on you observation, yet it could be false.

I think the existence of a creator is an issue we shouldn't bother ourselves about...weather he exists or not does not help humanity in anyway. It's an unnecessary distraction that shouldn't stop us from exploring the world we find ourselves in.

frank317:
And why is believing in that important? Who e epp?

Because there is strong evidence for God.

frank317:
Recall the bolded statement is just a theory based on you observation, yet it could be false.

Could be doesn't mean it is false.

frank317:
I think the existence of a creator is an issue we shouldn't bother ourselves about...weather he exists or not does not help humanity in anyway. It's an unnecessary distraction that shouldn't stop us from exploring the world we find ourselves in.

Whether he exists or not is important to the crucial question of the origins of the universe and humanity. The satisfaction gotten from the answer to that question is of great help.