KenyaMan111:


Kenyans have a right to justifiably terrified, why?
The amount of Nigerians associated in theatrics and musics is disproportionally high. I'll even admit they have a talent for it, particularly the one actor Chiwetal Ejiofer. This is where you are misguided, we aren't looking to conquer Nigeria culturally. African-American culture is the most prevalent culture arguably in the world, but they're are unable to secure influential jobs, let alone, build their neighborhoods. We're looking to economically surpass others, you can stick to dancing and 'culturally dominating' other countries, I want to compete with the big boys.

highheybee:
Hmmmm
Lemme split it fr you

Nigeria is now in recession,price are now doubled
State governments are owing workers their salaries
University are one strike due to not paying them their salaries
Megawatts produced are now reduce to 4000 from 5000
Oil price have increased by somewhat 70℅ .....what more could I add o...poverty is on the rise ....all these aforementioned are most of the problems Nigeria are now facing plus vandalization of pipelines

Buh what....even with all that you still stand no chance...a cheetah is still no battle to a wounded lion

We might be facing our worst time...the rich taking most of our GDP....buh never for once are we in the same league as Kenya...a lone wolf is no Match for an ordinary cougar not to take of a tiger...we have developed way faster and better than you jez besting us ten years to this time...for Leicester to be better than Manchester she still has a long way to go and she is just beginning

All those stats of your are nothing
Check the stats of China to Singapore,tauwan,south Korea buh none of those countries have reached where China has...

So you gat it..we are corrupted,pooe to your own mind buh you are still way beneath us...bye

And about all those free free stuff...I schooled at a public school where all I paid was money for desk and chair which I only paid once during the jss...while my sss was totally free plus free tablets and free waec for over 10000 students in osun state alone...so tell me...the primary school is free also..even eaten free foods...so whayasay..gerrarahere niggas


Adding to that is that most federal universities in Nigeria are paying less than 100$ tuition fee
We even best y'all schools in terms of education...how much are they paying at Nairobi,kenyatta,moi universities
And it's not like you schools are beter

Anybaba:


Nigerians associated with music and theater is disproportionately high ? Is that why your people were protesting in Kenya? It is this abysmal display of irrationality that has been the hallmark of submissions from your kind. And probably you have no idea of the contribution of entertainment to America's GDP and even Nigeria's. And you have no idea of cultural projection in International diplomacy. You talk in a bid to shame Nigeria but you got no idea how just puerile your infantile talk is.

KenyaMan111:


Lighten up my Nigerian counterpart, no need to get vicious, I realize how tempting it is when speaking to Kenyan of great intellect, but it'll solve nothing in the end.
I greatly admire the musical contribution that Nigerians and African-Americans have given us, but if your sole objective is to musically conquer other countries, then you'll forever be just a court jester for the powers. However, I am not judging, maybe you can make a livelihood out of dancing for us Kenyans when we fully modernize Kenya (:

GERALD710:

No one ever said Kenya has no slum.But from the pictures shown here, it seems that what we call slums are what Nigerians define as an ordinary estate!
If those pictures of Ibadan are not slums then let me declare that the city of Mombasa has no slums because our worst estates look exactly like that and not worse!!

KenyaMan111:



That'll most likely never happen, but who knows. The anti-Kenyan sentiment has to disappear before I enter that country. Also every analytical data collecting agency favorably alters their data to make it seem like their country is amazing, that's the only assumption I can come to. Nigeria say one thing the entire world says another, and I am suppose to believe Nigeria? Don't know why there's strong hate against us either considering how we let you walk all over us in when you guys are in Kenya. "hustling" as Nigerians call it.

GERALD710:

We'll see about the Dagonte Refinery. Given how Nigeria has so many vested interests in importing fuel.
Lagos will have to have 24 hours of light. Congrats!! Nairobi has been having 24 hours of light since 1962, with the exception of maintainance!!Last I checked, we have only had three energy crises . 1984 for three months, 2000 and for a month in 2008, After which Hydro power, which was the main cause of the crises was displaced by Geothermal power, which will last as long as the Earth's interior is hot.(And none of our energy crisis was on the scale of Nigeria where to date not a single place has 24 hours of electricity. SMH .Even in 2000 which was the worst our crisis consisted of 7 hour blackouts three times a week)
Dude. The biggest ports in Africa under construction are all being constructed on the East Coast.Bagamoyo in Tanzania, Lamu in Kenya, Courtesy of China and Japan.

GERALD710:

Dude.English!!!
A.You have described a Banana republic. You are no Lion. Lions do not go into recessions(Do you know Kenya has never gone into a recession?? We have had snail growth, like in the 90s during the SAPs and Moi's rule but a situation where our economy is contracting? Never!!Not even after the violence of 2007 did we go into a recession, we just had a severe drop in growth rate (1.9%)>
Last I heard Nigerians pay rent yearly because your monthly salaries are not guaranteed.And this was before the strikes
SMH.I am glad I was not born there. In Kenya, my money is guaranteed to be in my account every end month without fail!!
And Dude,Most rich Chinese run away from China as soon as they are able to and move to Australia,Canada,Singapore ,Countires with much smaller GDPs but with a more superior quality of life so really??Nigeria has nothing to brag about. The fact that you guys face fuel shortages and you are an oil producer while Kenya has never faced the types of shortages Nigeria faces(The last fuel shortage in Kenya was 7 years ago and affected Western Kenya and it was not due to lack of fuel but due to pipeline failure.Coastal Kenya has never had a fuel shortage in its history)tells me how dysfunctional your country is!!

Henrydone:
And who would rely on those cheap link where the pseudo editor is making figure from the comfort of his living room except for deluded fork.Which should we believe wikipedia or your cheap web.

highheybee:
Yeah yeah...you have light 24/7,your salaries are guaranteed...you are better in that shey...buh a country like Kenya doesn't come close to know how it is when you rule over 180m people,no country in Africa is as half as big as Nigeria...so you really no what's happening here...you saying rich people will flee to Singapore or where...go ask Samsung,disney how hard they are fighting to keep their grounds in China....

chebeoc:
I hate debating will with empty heads, kenya do all this and still a third world country ?. Then what and what will your country have again to be a develop country. My friend listren only population of pupils Lagos state and Imo state give free education are more than what your entire country have,not to talk about 10 to 15 states that give free education from primary to secondary schools in Nigeria, kenya with less than 2000mw of electricity have average power while Nigeria have more than 5000mw. come to your university education i don't think that what fed universities pay in nigeria is fees because here some schools pay less than 30,000 naira and that less than 100$ a semester. so kindly lets know how much they pay in your university before giving them loan.as for other things you wrote up there i know you're making yourself feel better.

Godgay:
shut up and learn I mentioned GDP per capital,80% lagosians leave in slumps?,u don't have sense my friend,I said you should compare kenya to a place of its size such individual southern regions but you started ,my country is almost 200 million it don't expect it to have the same development stats as a country of 34m,each of the zones would make sense,Norway is 5m rank more developed than USA 315m ,but there are many places is America richer and developed than Norway,this is exactly the same issue playing here but unfortunately for you and other idle people who spent 30 goddamm trends talking pointless talk,compere SW nigeria to Kenya
1.gdp
2.GDP per capital

naijalander:
MDG 1: Eradicate extreme poverty and hunger
MDG 2: Achieve universal primary education
MDG 3: Promote gender equality and empower women
MDG 4: Reduce child mortality
MDG 5: Improve maternal health
MDG 6: Combat HIV and AIDS, malaria and other diseases
MDG 7: Ensure environmental sustainability
MDG 8: Develop a global partnership for Development.

MDG is an ambitious program, good thing its time line is 1000 years. The main obstacle to MDG is actually the current political structure. Nigeria is only as Federal as Federal Express. Although we implemented devolution after independence, the powers that be seem reluctant to allow all 36 states of the Fed have their own constitutions, if each state gets its own constitution, they don't have to wait on the Federal govt allocation, they can invest, mine their resources and make the country even bigger. Nigeria is a lot more complex than you think.

Also, Nigerians pay rent yearly because we practise frugal economics, nobody likes it when a landlord or caretaker starts banging on your door every 4 weeks, only makes sense to pay rent annually, I believe advanced countries also practice this.

And the Nigerians who visit Kenya and come back to start saying Kenya is better are what you would call suffer head in Nigeria. If I was born and raised somewhere in Ikoyi's upper class areas and I went to stay in Kenya for a month, I thik I'd find Nigeria much better. Nigeria's middle class would be considered upper class in Kenya, yes I said it again. Hate it or love it, its the just the truth.

ritababe:




bonny have 24 hours power supply since time immemorial,.
and about the port we are doing it ourselves not some white company like yours.

Hbuyosh:
If whoever taught u economics was not high on dope, then by now u would have known that the GDP and the GDP per capita is not a very very precise way to determine the health of a country's economy and its society. Most economists and the other social scietists have strongly rejected that method. That is why other methods have been adopted, such as the Human Development Index and poverty rates.
Now compare both Kenya and Nigeria standing on those aspects and tell me.

FYI, Kenya has much higher literacy rates than Nigeria.

Godgay:
yes because there are 180 million people in Nigeria and 34m in Kenya compare individual regions in Nigeria especially the southern one's with a similar Kenya population I am tired of making this point don't qoute me again to this thread as if I don't have things to do.

Hbuyosh:
Bonny power is supplied by the foreign owned organizations, not the by the govt. And our ports, we are building them thru the loans that we borrowed from these countries and will be obliged to pay in the future. That shows that indeed our economy is quite healthy, if these foreign banks can agree to lend us the money, it shows that they regard us as creditworthy.

ritababe:



supplied by foreign company through Nigeria oil.
and borrowed from foreign company what's the difference?
fact they are both in our country, so stop saying no 24 hours light anywhere in naija okay.

naijalander:
MDG 1: Eradicate extreme poverty and hunger
MDG 2: Achieve universal primary education
MDG 3: Promote gender equality and empower women
MDG 4: Reduce child mortality
MDG 5: Improve maternal health
MDG 6: Combat HIV and AIDS, malaria and other diseases
MDG 7: Ensure environmental sustainability
MDG 8: Develop a global partnership for Development.

MDG is an ambitious program, good thing its time line is 1000 years. The main obstacle to MDG is actually the current political structure. Nigeria is only as Federal as Federal Express. Although we implemented devolution after independence, the powers that be seem reluctant to allow all 36 states of the Fed have their own constitutions, if each state gets its own constitution, they don't have to wait on the Federal govt allocation, they can invest, mine their resources and make the country even bigger. Nigeria is a lot more complex than you think.

Also, Nigerians pay rent yearly because we practise frugal economics, nobody likes it when a landlord or caretaker starts banging on your door every 4 weeks, only makes sense to pay rent annually, I believe advanced countries also practice this.

And the Nigerians who visit Kenya and come back to start saying Kenya is better are what you would call suffer head in Nigeria. If I was born and raised somewhere in Ikoyi's upper class areas and I went to stay in Kenya for a month, I thik I'd find Nigeria much better. Nigeria's middle class would be considered upper class in Kenya, yes I said it again. Hate it or love it, its the just the truth.

ritababe:


facts don't lie.
you guys are talking about we[b] importing refined fuel[/b], for your information dangote is building one of the biggest refinery in the world (not just Africa).
that refinery will pave way for other good things to come and also as we speak now light is been transferred from bonny to Lagos and soon Lagos will start having 24 hours light.
also Atiku company [b]is building one of the biggest seaport [/b]Lagos that will pave way for other good things, so you see my friend Don't compare Nigeria with common Kenya compare south Africa okay.

Hbuyosh:


WHo are the middle class?

Doctors, nurses, teachers, lawyers, accountants, economists, military officers, accountants, economists, urban planners, university professors, architects, stockbrokers, psychologists, scientists, engineers, optometrists, pharmacists, high-level civil servants etc.

Kenya vs Nigeria salaries
Salaries of Professionals in Kenya
Salaries In Nigeria [statistics]



NB ksh1=Naira3.5

Now tell me.........Nigeria's middle class would be considered upper class in Kenya, really?

KwachImani:


Why didnt you people build your own refineries and seaports after 50 plus years of OIL WEALTH/MONEY?
It means you lack intelligence or are just an inferior species.
And you mean your capital city for all those years with lots and lots of OIL MONEY (50 years with high oil prices) didn't have 24 hours stale and reliable electricity to begin with?.......HAHAHAH!.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves, save yourselves the embarrassment and quit arguing here.

naijalander:
First of all, you cannot rely on these stats for your argument. Not everyone in those professions receive that exact amount, earnings vary with regards to experience and other factors.

Second, my premise is based on the fact that Nigeria's elite DO NOT live in Kenya the way South Sudanese, Somali upper class do. Nairobi is not appealing to their taste but it does appeal to the taste of our middle class who happen to be able to afford apartments in South B, Dunholm, Buru-buru and South C to say the least.

KwachImani:


Why didnt you people build your own refineries and seaports after 50 plus years of OIL WEALTH/MONEY?
It means you lack intelligence or are just an inferior species.
And you mean your capital city for all those years with lots and lots of OIL MONEY (50 years with high oil prices) didn't have 24 hours stale and reliable electricity to begin with?.......HAHAHAH!.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves, save yourselves the embarrassment and quit arguing here.

KwachImani:


Why didnt you people build your own refineries and seaports after 50 plus years of OIL WEALTH/MONEY?
It means you lack intelligence or are just an inferior species.
And you mean your capital city for all those years with lots and lots of OIL MONEY (50 years with high oil prices) didn't have 24 hours stale and reliable electricity to begin with?.......HAHAHAH!.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves, save yourselves the embarrassment and quit arguing here.

Hbuyosh:
And who owns the Nigerian oil? U do not own a large portion of that oil, just a portion of the profits.

WE all know the people behind the the whole process of exploration, infrastructure installation, dredging, transportation, marketing....


Yet u guys are very good at claiming that foreigners own other countries!

Hbuyosh:
I know that! People in those professions earn more or less than the figures quoted there, due to varying factors. Then again, statistics dont have to be absolutely precise in order to present the fact on the ground. Thus the term "average" has been used.

Are not there Nigerians in Runda, Lavington, Kileleshwa [/b]etc? Dont lie, u guys love our country, and u yourself have admitted that. [b]And by the way, those suburbs u have mentioned above are waay more swanky than anything Lagos has to offer. FYI Kenya, together with SA leads the coninent in real estate sector. Go figure!

naijalander:
MDG 1: Eradicate extreme poverty and hunger
MDG 2: Achieve universal primary education
MDG 3: Promote gender equality and empower women
MDG 4: Reduce child mortality
MDG 5: Improve maternal health
MDG 6: Combat HIV and AIDS, malaria and other diseases
MDG 7: Ensure environmental sustainability
MDG 8: Develop a global partnership for Development.

MDG is an ambitious program, good thing its time line is 1000 years. The main obstacle to MDG is actually the current political structure. Nigeria is only as Federal as Federal Express. Although we implemented devolution after independence, the powers that be seem reluctant to allow all 36 states of the Fed have their own constitutions, if each state gets its own constitution, they don't have to wait on the Federal govt allocation, they can invest, mine their resources and make the country even bigger. Nigeria is a lot more complex than you think.

Also, Nigerians pay rent yearly because we practise frugal economics, nobody likes it when a landlord or caretaker starts banging on your door every 4 weeks, only makes sense to pay rent annually, I believe advanced countries also practice this.

And the Nigerians who visit Kenya and come back to start saying Kenya is better are what you would call suffer head in Nigeria. If I was born and raised somewhere in Ikoyi's upper class areas and I went to stay in Kenya for a month, I thik I'd find Nigeria much better. Nigeria's middle class would be considered upper class in Kenya, yes I said it again. Hate it or love it, its the just the truth.

naijalander:
keep telling yourself these lies.

I'm from Nigeria's lower middle class. I can afford travel to Kenya, SA and even Dubai like most lower middle class Nigerians. I stay at Valley Arcade Lavington whenever am in Nairobi so what exactly are you on about?

The areas mentioned in Nairobi are very well affordable for the average frugal Nigerian.