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naijadeyhia:
Please construct your sentences in a legible way so it would not put any strain on the eyes.

Wow, u are unbelievable

KingEbukasBlog:
Norway , Denmark and Sweden are Christian dominated countries . So what are you saying



Juche Ideology is a political religion . Political religions are not state religions or the normal religion we know . They are tools used by totalitarian governments to control their masses . In simple terms , North Korea as an atheist state uses Juche Ideology to control its masses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

Facts do not lie My Brother. North Korea is a "Model" Atheist state. Lol

theoneJabulani:
Wow, u are unbelievable

We learn everyday. I cannot waste my time reading words in poorly constructed and bunched up sentences! The real import and meaning would be stripped from it. It hurts my eyes quite frankly.

naijadeyhia:
Facts do not lie My Brother. North Korea is a "Model" Atheist state. Lol

Gbam !!!

GrizzlyBear uses pejorative terms and derogatory descriptions for religious people yet atheists are the worst mankind has ever known .

naijadeyhia:
We learn everyday. I cannot waste my time reading words in poorly constructed and bunched up sentences! The real import and meaning would be stripped from it. It hurts my eyes quite frankly.

that's a really poor excuse

hopefulLandlord:
in Game Of Thrones season 3 Episode 6 (The climb), at the 45th minute mark (elapse) Lord Varys strolled into the throne room and saw Lord Petyr Baelish (Littlefinger) sitting beside the iron throne in admiration

Lord Varys then talked about the history of the throne saying the throne was built by forging swords of defeated enemies over the years, he said there are 1000 different swords used for that throne

Littlefinger cut in saying its NOT up to 1000, he said its infact not even up to 200 and that he's sure cuz he's counted it

they discussed some more and the discussion got very interesting

Lord Varys said he stands for the realm

Littlefinger replies "the realm, do you know what the realm is? its the thousand blades of the enemies, the story we tell each other over and over until we forget that its a lie"

Lord Varys replies "but what do we have left when we abandon the lie? Chaos, a gaping pit waiting to swallow us all"


to be continued....

The lies of Atheism repeated well enough!
I get your point

theoneJabulani:
that's a really poor excuse

Truth hurts but needs to be said. If not said we would not learn. Perhaps now next time he would give a bit more time to proper structure in his writings before posting.

I learned the hard way too so no biggie.

KingEbukasBlog:
Gbam !!!

GrizzlyBear uses pejorative terms and derogatory descriptions for religious people yet atheists are the worst mankind has ever known .

1)North Korea don't practice atheism and
2) most atheists who go on killing spree do not do so in the name of atheism

theoneJabulani:
so what u are saying is that it's possible yahweh is not the creator?

I am saying that you are subscribing to a highly irrational belief which is atheism . It exasperatingly denies the existence of the creator even with the overwhelming evidence for all to see .

theoneJabulani:
1)North Korea don't practice atheism and
2) most atheists who go on killing spree do not do so in the name of atheism

Ebuka should i give this guy a facepalm or just ignore? Despite all the ideologies listed and created by Atheists his comment here shows he does not even know what those ideologies stand for and what their roots are. He probably likens them to democracy. smh

naijadeyhia:
Truth hurts but needs to be said. If not said we would not learn. Perhaps now next time he would give a bit more time to proper structure in his writings before posting.

I learned the hard way too so no biggie.

so u won't reply him?

naijadeyhia:
And Hitler did his for the sake of Christianity right? I can feel your pain.

It's funny how when you guys want to discredit atheism you use Hitler as a proxy, as if atheism was his motivation.

Do you know how many people that have been killed in the name of religion? Were members the catholic church that murdered thousands of innocent people for crimes they didn't commit and the lutherans that supported them atheists?

Forget about that, what about the religious people that have done worse than Hitler did? Were the americans that used nuclear weapons to murder millions of people in Horoshima and Nagasaki atheists? Do you know how many serial killers who tortured and killed innocent people were religious? How about the Nigerian politicians that are looting out money everyday? Are they atheists? How about the armed robbers, thieves and killers we see everyday on front page? Are they also atheists? How about boko haram and other jihadists that are causing death and havoc in our world? Are they also atheists?
How about the british and american slaves master that immeserated your ancestors? Were they also atheists?

theoneJabulani:
1)North Korea don't practice atheism and
2) most atheists who go on killing spree do not do so in the name of atheism

Oh dear ! Even in the face of facts , they still deny .

Communist leaders killed because of atheism , atheism was their animus
https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

GrizzlyBear:
Well, the pillars are now weak and outdated, and can no longer efficiently carry the weight of the modern day society.

The pillars are also serving as a nest for harboring eggs of ignorance and delusion, which are hatching everyday and proliferating through our society in so many dangerous forms, and this is undermining it's growth and development.

These antiquated pillars of religion now have to be replaced with new pillars of intellectual honesty and open ended discussions about the true nature of reality, and how best to improve our society by providing favourable factors that would efficiently promote the proper physical, mental, and psychological development of our species, using the mountain of accumulated knowledge that has been gathered through history.

I have made this point before, and I'll make it again. The benefits derived from something doesn't make that thing credible. Because religion has benefits isn't a valid reason to cling on to it. Religion is a belief system and it's beliefs are rooted in lies, myths and fabrication of ignorant people. Anybody can wake up tomorrow and believe whatever crazy thing they want. Like someone totally unrelated to Mother Theresa could wake up tomorrow with the belief that he is the first son of Mother theresa, and even believe with certainty that whenever he closes his eyes and talks, that he is communicating with Mother Theresa. This belief comes with benefits. He could begin to live a life of selfless service and forgiveness, in the bid to emulate his mother. He could even begin to compose songs and be inspired to make beautiful art. But does these benefits justify his belief that he is the first son of Mother Theresa? Of course not. Anyone who listens to him would know that he is in dire need of mental rehabilitation. But this is the exact picture of religion.

For every advantage of religion you listed, there are equal disadvantages. And you know the funny thing? The advantages of religion can be gotten from other more efficient sources, but the disadvantages and harm it brings, and the degree in which they come, can only be derived from religion.

The OP spoke the truth but rather than appreciate the foundation of universal morality and civilization, you are busy taking opposing sides. Mind you, the OP wasnt even taking sides with any God/gods.

Without religion, we are reduced to creatures ruled by the law of survival of the fittest. Religion narrowed that gap.

naijadeyhia:
Ebuka should i give this guy a facepalm or just ignore? Despite all the ideologies listed and created by Atheists his comment here shows he does not eve know what those ideologies stand for and what their roots are. He probably likens them to democracy. smh

whatever rocks ur boat bt it doesn't change the truth

GrizzlyBear:
It's funny how when you guys want to discredit atheism you use Hitler as a proxy, as if atheism was his motivation.

Do you know how many people that have been killed in the name of religion? Were members the catholic church that murdered thousands of innocent people for crimes they didn't commit and the lutherans that supported them atheists?

Forget about that, what about the religious people that have done worse than Hitler did? Were the americans that used nuclear weapons to murder millions of people in Horoshima and Nagasaki atheists? Do you know how many serial killers who tortured and killed innocent people were religious? How about the Nigerian politicians that are looting out money everyday? Are they atheists? How about the armed robbers, thieves and killers we see everyday on front page? Are they also atheists? How about boko haram and other jihadists that are causing death and havoc in our world? Are they also atheists?
How about the british and american slaves master that immeserated your ancestors? Were they also atheists?

I have only one question for you and you would do well to research and then come back to offer an answer.

How many atheist leaders carried out the worst acts of DEMOCIDE known to man whose actions TRUMP that of any Religious body in History from the past till date?

I need an answer and while at it please look up the meaning of DEMOCIDE and why it was specially applied to them

naijadeyhia:
Ebuka should i give this guy a facepalm or just ignore? Despite all the ideologies listed and created by Atheists his comment here shows he does not even know what those ideologies stand for and what their roots are.

A facepalm , a pre-natal facepalm

naijadeyhia:
He probably likens them to democracy. smh

lmao !!

I think he is still aghast at the wickedness shown by his atheist brothers and now he is denying them because of the shame and embarrassment their acts've caused him.

KingEbukasBlog:
Oh dear ! Even in the face of facts , they still deny .

Communist leaders killed because of atheism , atheism was their animus
https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

pls not those threads, the church killed for God, I is is killing for Islam, the fact we are even debating whether those lunatics killed for atheism shows the flaw in ur argument

KingEbukasBlog:
A facepalm , a pre-natal facepalm






lmao !!

I think he is still aghast at the wickedness shown by his atheist brothers and now he is denying them because of the shame and embarrassment their acts've caused him.

I think so too. Let me spare him the prenatal facepalm for now. He has been a good boy so far!

KingEbukasBlog:
Norway , Denmark and Sweden are Christian dominated countries . So what are you saying



Juche Ideology is a political religion . Political religions are not state religions or the normal religion we know . They are tools used by totalitarian governments to control their masses . In simple terms , North Korea as an atheist state uses Juche Ideology to control its masses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

Stop being dishonest. Sweden and Denmark are secular states, with a non-religious majority. I have actually read books about this. Stop misinforming people.

KingEbukasBlog:
A facepalm , a pre-natal facepalm






lmao !!

I think he is still aghast at the wickedness shown by his atheist brothers and now he is denying them because of the shame and embarrassment their acts've caused him.

I am against every act of violence whether it's committed by a thiest or an atheist

naijadeyhia:
I think so too. Let me spare him the prenatal facepalm for now. He has been a good boy so far!

ooohh, that's so cute

KingEbukasBlog:
For logical reasons like infinite regress the intelligent designer is eternal . But the fact still remains that the universe has a cause and a beginning - this completely shows without doubt that it needed a creator .

Even if the universe is eternal , it does not impugn the existence of the creator . In philosophical propositions like panentheism , the universe is like the material manifestation of the creator , the creator serves as its soul .

The simple task of proving this your outrageous and unfounded claims, is what you have not been able to do, since you have been on NL.

Where is the uncaused cause of the universe?

Why don't you take a break, and go read all the empty stuff, that you have unintelligently posted on this platform.

You may find redemption, you know!

GrizzlyBear:
Stop being dishonest. Sweden and Denmark are secular states, with a non-religious majority. I have actually read books about this. Stop misinforming people.

Oga in Denmark 78% of the population believe in God while in Sweden 68.3% believe in God.

akintom:
The simple task of proving this your outrageous and unfounded claims, is what you have not been able to do, since you have been on NL.

Where is the uncaused cause of the universe?

Why don't you take a break, and go read all the empty stuff, that you have unintelligently posted on this platform.

You may find redemption, you know!

that's true bt it's kinda harsh

akintom:
The simple task of proving this your outrageous and unfounded claims, is what you have not been able to do, since you have been on NL.

Where is the uncaused cause of the universe?

Why don't you take a break, and go read all the empty stuff, that you have unintelligently posted on this platform.

You may find redemption, you know!

Your rage is the reason nobody takes you serious anymore. Fix it then maybe we can take you down from the shelf we have placed you and dust you off.

There's also the hope. Religion brings hope. It helps people to keep going even in the bleakest of situations, a lot of people have used it to navigate through hard times. The thought that there is something out there looking out for you (whether real or imagined) is sometimes all that is needed to keep pressing on. Our world would have been far more chaotic and apathetic without this hope than it is presently .

naijadeyhia:
Oga in Denmark 78% of the population believe in God while in Sweden 68.3% believe in God.

stop lying for God, less than 20percent actually believe religion is important in both countries

naijadeyhia:
I have only one question for you and you would do well to research and then come back to offer an answer.

How many atheist leaders carried out the worst acts of DEMOCIDE known to man whose actions TRUMP that of any Religious body in History from the past till date?

I need an answer and while at it please look up the meaning of DEMOCIDE and why it was specially applied to them

Arguing with you is so enervating. Your dishonestly is rankling.

Let's say that Hitler and Stalin were actually atheists. But their atheism wasn't what motivated them. They had political goals and they were in the middle of a war. They did what they did for political reasons. Their "atheism" wasn't the underlying impetus for their actions. During the 2nd war, Winston churchill also ordered the killing of millions of people, but he was a christian, and do you ever see atheists using him as a proxy to discredit christianity? No. Because they know he did what he did for political reasons, and his religion beliefs weren't his motivation.

TomHagen:
There's also the hope. Religion brings hope. It helps people to keep going even in the bleakest of situations, a lot of people have used it to navigate through hard times. The thought that there is something out there looking out for you (whether real or imagined) is sometimes all that is needed to keep pressing on. Our world would have been far more chaotic and apathetic without this hope than it is presently .

Pastor Tom you have spoken well.

theoneJabulani:
stop lying for God, less than 20percent actually believe religion is important in both countries

Sweden was Christianized from Norse paganism during a long period, not final until the 1130s. Since the 16th century, Sweden has been predominantly Lutheran. From the Protestant Reformation in the 1530s until 2000, the Lutheran Church of Sweden (Swedish: Svenska kyrkan) was the state church. As of 2015, 68.3%[1] of Swedish citizens are members of the Church of Sweden

Do you want me to post for Denmark?

GrizzlyBear:
Arguing with you is so enervating. Your dishonestly is rankling.

Let's say that Hitler and Stalin were actually atheists. But their atheism wasn't what motivated them. They had political goals and they were in the middle of a war. They did what they did for political reasons. Their "atheism" wasn't the underlying impetus for their actions. During the 2nd war, Winston churchill also ordered the killing of millions of people, but he was a christian, and do you ever see atheists using him as a proxy to discredit christianity? No. Because they know he did what he did for political reasons, and his religion beliefs weren't his motivation.

well said