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| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by theoneJabulani(m): 10:10pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:These two countries, in which only 17% and 18% , respectively, of the population consider religion important, have become icons of secularist values to the rest of the world. Phil Zuckerman, a sociologist from Pitzer College in Claremont, Calif., spent a little more than a year talking to citizens to find out why. He discovered that your average Danish or Swedish citizen simply doesn’t think much about religion; in these two cultures, religion has largely been relegated to a ceremonial role. For the typical atheist who likes to have a Christmas tree without the burden of having to believe in the Virgin Birth, the Danish and Swedish attitude towards religion should fit like a cozy sweater. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:10pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
GrizzlyBear:Were Jews in any way constituting a problem to Hitlers war besides his Personal belief that they were weak due to Religion? For Hitler it wasnt political..it was personal. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:12pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
theoneJabulani:According to a Eurobarometer Poll conducted in 2010,[2] 28% of Danish citizens responded that "they believe there is a God", 47% responded that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force" and 24% responded that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God or life force". Another poll, carried out in 2008, found that 25% of Danes believe Jesus is the son of God, and 18% believe he is the saviour of the world.[3 |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by akintom(m): 10:14pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Which thread? I just told you it's a compilation of trash. Religion is the pillar of the following: * sustained primitiveness and ignorance * incest * genocide * infanticide * racism * nepotism * delusion * hatred * terrorism * poverty * oppression * discrimination * Fatalism/retrogression * corruption * avoidable health complications * avoidable death * foolishness and idiocy...... In human experience. Nations where religions have been severed from from influencing the state, have made significant departure from these evils that religion introduced into human existence. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by theoneJabulani(m): 10:15pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:In a 2009 Gallup poll, 17% answered yes to the question "Is religion an important part of your daily life?". A survey found that only 15% of Church of Sweden members actually believe in Jesus, while another 15% identified as atheists, and a quarter as agnostic. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:15pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
akintom:Are you done? If you are, your comment has been seen and noted. Thank you. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:18pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
theoneJabulani:I can see you wish to see what you want to see so believe what you wish while i do mine. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by theoneJabulani(m): 10:20pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:not running away, are you? |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:20pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:I despise dishonesty. Directly copied from a wikipedia page. "According to the Eurobarometer Poll 2010, 18% of Swedish citizens responded that "they believe there is a god". 45% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force". 34% answered that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, god, or life force". What this means is that Sweden has a population of 18% theists, 45% deists, and 34% atheists. Deists aren't religious, they are as secular as atheists, meaning that only 18% of the Swedish population are religious. Denmark also has similar statistics. This is the link to the page. You should read it and educate yourself. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Sweden |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:21pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
GrizzlyBear:Look up. already posted that. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by jonbellion(m): 10:22pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
These people are GrizzlyBear:these people are just tiring I don't know why they bring up arguments when they are so bent on their world view that they refuse to listen to anyone else Somebody was comparing social Darwinism to evolution. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by akintom(m): 10:23pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Now you are copying/quoting me without acknowledgement. I once posted that i have classified felixomor and naijadeyhia as "ignored species", but that they keep falling off, from the museum shelf, whenever tourists are around. You certainly will have to be running from me, because you know that i will always burst your bloated religious bubbles. You should sure feel safe, in the company of folks who can indulge your rathole rebuttals. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:25pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
GrizzlyBear:****COPIED*** [b] Deism: A religion whose followers believe in a God who created the universe, established its rules of behavior, set it going, left, and hasn't been seen since The word "Deism" is derived from the Latin word for God: "Deus." Deism is a natural religion. Deists believe in the existence of God, on purely rational grounds, without any reliance on revealed religion, religious authority, or holy text. Because of this, Deism is quite different from religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The latter are largely based on revelations that Jews, Christians and Muslims believe mostly came from God to prophet(s) who then taught it to humans. We like to call natural religions by the title "bottom-up" faiths because they were created by humans about God; we refer to revealed religions as "top-down" because their followers believe that they were created by God and delivered to humans. One faith that is opposite of Deism is Atheism, which is the lack of a belief in the existence of a god or gods. Another seen in the beliefs of most Theists who conceive of God as a deity who is all-present, all-powerful, all-loving, all-knowing and has a personal interest in every human on Earth. Deists: Do not accept the belief of most religions that God revealed himself to humanity through the writings of the Hebrew Scriptures (a.k.a. Old Testament), and/or the Christian Scriptures (a.k.a. New Testament), and/or the Qur'an, and/or other religious text. Disagree with strong Atheists who assert that there is no evidence of the existence of God. Many Deists reason that everything that exists has had a creator -- from a wristwatch, to a television set, to the Internet itself. Thus it is logical that the universe itself must have been created by God: Thomas Paine concluded a speech shortly after the French Revolution with: "God is the power of first cause, nature is the law, and matter is the subject acted upon."[/b] There are Deists on Nairaland and they affirm to my post. YOU ARE BEING DISHONEST |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by akintom(m): 10:28pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
GrizzlyBear:It's never the culture of the religious folks, to read and understand, all they are conditioned to do is just believe (be it trash or filth), they just believe. No question, no criticism, nothing. It's all about blind faith and blind trust, as far as religious folks are concerned. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by jonbellion(m): 10:30pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Religion divides more than it unites It's because of religion this argument is being put up And a lot if disposable acts throughout history was approved by religion Was it atheists they ordered the Salem witch trials Or Diests or pantheists Nope Slavery was justified by religion, women's rights where suppressed. After all isn't it a disgrace for a woman to speak in church according to Paul. I think religous people are just sad cuz they aren't allowed to have thier way as much as before The society has started to have sense |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:31pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:It is better to give no answer at all than to formulate utter rubbish. That is what religion does. It is simply the philosophy of ordinary men, their conjectures are supported without any evidence and relies only on faith, which is completely flawed. It's an example of GIGO(garbage in garbage out) |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:35pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Lennycool:Well I believe that all opinions are welcome when rational and Faith to a Religious folk is Rationality. Its like trying to say ice isnt water because it is solid or to say daylight isnt a part of the sun because we do not see the light as it travels from the sun to the earth. Faith is the evidence for the believer while science is the evidence for the unbeliever which is why even the unbeliever would not be able to deny God eventually in judgement. Faith or lack of would condemn or approve one. The HOW is for you while i hold on to my WHY. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by akintom(m): 10:36pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
jonbellion:It's the pillar of reason, being put to unfettered use by humans, that is fast collapsing a crumbling the pillars of primitiveness and ignorance that religion is built on. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by akintom(m): 10:38pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Now you have become terribly incoherent and deductible. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:39pm On Nov 19, 2016*. Modified: 8:22am On Nov 20, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Hitler had an ideology of racial purification and he killed people that he felt didn't fit into his perfect race plan. His issues with the jews was primarily racial, not religious. The jews were a distinct race that were spread across Germany, Poland and other areas that he wanted to claim for himself. Hitler killed them because he perceived them as an inferior race. His anti-semitism was racially motivated. And Hitler didn't only kill jews. He also killed Romanis, homosexuals, blacks, gypsies and people he considered weak. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:40pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
akintom: Am i? Some arguments do not deserve to much effort on my part so keeping it short and sweet is better for me but if that translates to me being incoherent then whatever floats your boat go for it. ![]() |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by jonbellion(m): 10:42pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:but the only difference between diests and athiests is belief They both reject organised religion and personal Gods What's your point. That us is even way more sensible And I don't think most athiests outrightly say there is no God. Stop using the dictionary to define personal beliefs Must athiests are more agnostic The only difference between an agnostic and a diest is that an agnostic says we can not know Both reject organized religion and personal Gods so we are basically in the same side |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:44pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
GrizzlyBear:I honestly am beginning to detest your dishonesty. I told you that for hitler is wasnt political it was personal and here you come with racial puritifaction. Read this.. ****COPIED*** [b] You guys are missing one of the leading reasons for his "hatred" of the Jews and that was the loss of WWI. He was in medical treatment in Pasewalk, convalescing from a mustard gas attack, when he got the news the war was lost. Despondent, as witness' claim, he was depressed for months with really nothing to do. He was desperate to stay in the Army as long as possible. It was during this time that he bought into WHOLESALE, like so many other Germans, the idea of Dolchstoßlegende, "stab-in-the-back". This theory was propagated throughout Germany, and one of the leading targets of this theory was the "Jewish International Finance" or "Jewish War Profiteers". He wrote extensively about the "November Criminals" in Mein Kampf. These "criminals" in his book were made up of the Social Democrats and Marxists, which he lumped together and connected to the Jews -- Oddly, he was convinced that the Social Democrats, those who were in power and who signed the Armistice, were responsible for the Jewish state of the Soviet Union and the Jewish Bolshevism, which is partly true, in that they gave Lenin and his followers passage through Germany to Russia by train so they could rejoin the revolution after February 1917 (cf Vladimir Lenin). But this is secondary to his hatred of the Jews. I've looked for evidence in many primary sources, as those cited above which claim Hitler was anti-semitic in his Vienna days, but there is definitive proof that he lived in a crowded flat with Jews, so it's not so clear he was antisemitic then. Others claim he was anti-semitic in and around his mothers death in Linz, but this isn't necessarily proven either. Most evidence points to WWI and the loss of the war. Noted historian Richard J. Evans remarks "notorious, murderous anti-Semitism emerged well after Germany’s defeat, as a product of the paranoid 'stab-in-the-back' explanation for the catastrophe". I tend to think it was here that it began in earnest and those "simmering" ideas were only "accelerated" forward by Drexler and others he met in the beer hall cellar in 1919.[/b] https://www.quora.com/What-was-Adolf-Hitler%E2%80%99s-rationale-for-hating-Jews IF YOU WISH TO BE DISHONEST ANY FURTHER I WILL NO LONGER RESPOND TO YOU |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by theoneJabulani(m): 10:48pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:don't u ever get tired of rolling out false information? BTW, am still waiting for your reply |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:49pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Like I said faith not evidence is what you have for God. Faith is flawed. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:50pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
theoneJabulani:Sigh! So now its false because its true? Have you ever interviewed an elderly german before? If you have you would not call this false. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by felixomor: 10:51pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
akintom:Oh, i can see u r still observing ur "tourists" inside your delusions. Ride on. Asylum seeker |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by theoneJabulani(m): 10:52pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:I take it that u av interviewed one? |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:55pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
theoneJabulani:Sigh! For you to call something false you need to present an alternative which you term as true. A credible source would be an elderly german who is knowledgeable of WW2. I hope you get my drift. Read between the lines bro. Was there nothing like Dolchstoßlegende, "stab-in-the-back" in the days of Hitler? Was it not the propaganda that was being spread? |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:55pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Hitlers hate maybe personal. Buy remember that he didn't commit the evil himself, he had his Christian soldiers do it. He had the church and even the german citizenry help him in his atrocities. Where there hate all personal? Even the Catholic church(big and influential as it was then) didn't speak against the evil, why do you think so? Christians have largely and unfairly blamed Jews for the death of Jesus. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by Nobody: 10:58pm On Nov 19, 2016*. Modified: 8:22am On Nov 20, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Lol. Are you now posting quora comments? Okay. I read your copied post and I didn't see any thing that pointed to Hitler's anti-Semitism as being religiously motivated. Did you even read what you copied? You know nothing about history or about your world. Any reputable source would tell you that Hitler's hatred for the Jews was primarily racial. In the quora search you made on google, try clicking on the links below the first quora link you copied. Read through the page, and compare the answers of everyone. Then ponder on your level of ignorance. |
| Re: Religion Is The Pillar Of Humanity. Take It Away And We Collapse! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:58pm On Nov 19, 2016 |
Lennycool:King Ebuka : Lennycool , are you omniscient ? Lennycool : No sir King Ebuka : Lennycool , can you say with certitude that there is no God Lennycool : No sir , I am not certain there is no God King Ebuka : Do you have any facts to validate this belief Lennycool : No sir King Ebuka : Then shut the fukk up , you have faith , blind faith . |
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Am i? Some arguments do not deserve to much effort on my part so keeping it short and sweet is better for me but if that translates to me being incoherent then whatever floats your boat go for it.