₦airaland Forum

ActivateKruger:
You're not pleased with Denel's commercial activities at all

tdayof:
Probably in Nigeria. I can't find a number marking on that bird so I think it's just a recent painting. That's our desert camo scheme.

kabe1:
Stop displaying your ignorance.

The Presidential Air Fleet is a branch of the Nigerian Air Force. The pilots who fly in the presidential air fleet are usually deployed from the Nigerian Air Force.


Amosu and Badeh both former CAS both flew Eagle One.


If you don't know what you're talking about just keep shut.

kabe1:
Ok thanks.

I'll like to ask another question if you don't mind.


Is Nigeria no longer getting the JF-17, i thought Oga Henry always said we would get them this november?

ActivateKruger:
You at Potchefstroom? For some reason I always assumed you were in the Western Cape :\

bidexiii:
We r still in November.......

We should get at least the first 3 orders these month along side with some helo's.

bidexiii:
We r still in November.......

We should get at least the first 3 orders these month along side with some helo's.

kabe1:
Does the Nigerian Air Force have an MRO facility?

frumentius:
Now that's an interesting question.

I know Denel Aviation is the official MRO for the African continent for:
1) Lockheed Martin (C-130);
2) Airbus Helicopters (Puma, Super Puma, all the ex-Eurocopter choppers etc);
3) Russian Helicopters (though I hear this will soon be terminated); and
4) the SAAF Agusta A109 & Super Lynx.

Denel has a facility in Lagos for the C-130s and Super Pumas of the NAF but I'm pretty sure they only handle SA's Agusta products. Which probably means if there's extensive damage to your choppers, Agusta will fly people in or craft will be shipped to Europe.

bidexiii:
We r still in November.......

We should get at least the first 3 orders these month along side with some helo's.

kabe1:
Although i'm new here, I've been following this thread, on & off for sometime.


I'll like to ask, wasn't there an argument over this between you and Oga Henry a couple months back, I mean over this MRO facility?

Does this mean the little work done on the AW101 was done by Denel or by the Nigerians. I see the crashed chooper has a new Cammo?

tdayof:
The way this deal dey secretive ehn..

I won't be surprised if it will be like the ch3 . Someone will just post a video of those birds flying by while we are here still hoping for their arrival.

tdayof:
Heard a Syrian jet bombed Turkish position.

Test of an M1A1 tank in the Egyptian military factory Helwan 200, 85% of the tank's components are manufactured in Egypt

kabe1:
Although i'm new here, I've been following this thread, on & off for sometime.


I'll like to ask, wasn't there an argument over this between you and Oga Henry a couple months back, I mean over this MRO facility?

Does this mean the little work done on the AW101 was done by Denel or by the Nigerians. I see the crashed chooper has a new Cammo?

frumentius:
Yes there was a little disagreement because Henry didn't understand the difference between regular aircraft maintenance (ably undertaken by the NAF in the case then under discussion) and milestone maintenance (undertaken by the manufacturer or their agent, Denel Aviation).

Your crashed Agusta looks like it'll need reconstructive work. I'm not qualified to say how extensive, and I don't know if Denel has the MRO status for Agusta beyond South Africa.
Apart from SA, Algeria is the closest Leonardo facility if your chopper can't be fixed in-country.

tdayof:
Henry claimed a company does the MRO. Someone from NAF told me the same thing. ( I can't remember the company name)

frumentius:
-> C-130:
-regular maintenance - NAF
-milestone maintenance - Lockheed Martin / Denel Aviation (Accredited MRO agent for Africa)

-> Puma & Super Puma
-regular maintenance - NAF
-milestone maintenance - Airbus Helicopters / Denel Aviation (Accredited MRO agent for Africa)

-> MI-24/35
-regular maintenance - NAF
-milestone maintenance - Russian Helicopters / Denel Aviation (there seems to be problems with this partnership and it might be terminated, if not already over).

africaken254:
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Posidonius:
Looks fixable to me, although it would cost a lot of money. The main rotor looks damaged means the engine might need changing, no signs of fire damages and the main airframe looks okay. The systems shouldn't be affected although they would need to go through some checks.

I'm sure the helicopter would be fixed as a face saving measure, and to show accountability.

Repairs can be done in country and could be pushed for. AW might be willing to go an extra mile, because of the idea that Nigeria might be getting more helicopters looking at the interests in the Russian platforms. My assertions might be wrong though but let's see how thing pan out.

frumentius:
And your point is?

africaken254:
commercial Airlines and airworthiness authorities casually refer to the detailed inspections as "checks", commonly one of the following: A check, B check, C check, or D check. A and B checks are lighter checks, while C and D are considered heavier checks.

C check
This check puts the aircraft out of service and until it is completed; the aircraft must not leave the maintenance site. It also requires more space than A and B checks. It is, therefore, usually carried out in a hangar at a maintenance base. The time needed to complete such a check is generally 1–2 weeks and the effort involved can require up to 6,000 man-hours.

D check

This is by far the most comprehensive and demanding check for an airplane.It is also known as an IL or "heavy maintenance visit" (HMV). This check occurs approximately every six years.[4] It is a check that more or less takes the entire airplane apart for inspection and overhaul. Even the paint may need to be completely removed for further inspection on the fuselage metal skin. Such a check can generally take up to 50,000 man-hours and 2 months to complete, depending on the aircraft and the number of technicians involved. It also requires the most space of all maintenance checks, and as such must be performed at a suitable maintenance base. The requirements and the tremendous effort involved in this maintenance check make it by far the most expensive, with total costs for a single D check in the million-dollar range

Fidha254:
I have never heard, of a main airport being closed for hours so that the air force can 'train' for a fly-past for an upcoming Independence holyday... Is there something new they plan to surprize us with or is it a guise for something else especially given that the air force has always used its main airbase as a launchepad for its flypasts in Nairobi or anywhere else in the country.. There is also the moi airbase in Eastleigh in Nairobi, but DoD choses to close a whole main int'l airport for 'training?'


AS KENYA PREPARES FOR INDEPENDENCE DAY WILL JKIA BE SUBJECT TO THREE TEMPORARY CLOSURES (Posted 25th November 2016) Preparations are ongoing for the celebrations of Kenya’s Independence Day on the 12th of December. Subsequently, in order to allow Kenya’s air force to train for their fly by maneuvers on the day, will Jomo Kenyatta International Airport be temporarily closed today, 25th of November from 11.00 hrs to 12.00 hrs noon and then again on the 07th of December during the same time. On Independence Day 12th of December will the same restriction apply and flights into and out of Jomo Kenyatta International Airport will be delayed accordingly until after the air force’s aerial display is completed. RwandAir has subsequently issued a delay warning for their flight from Entebbe via Nairobi to Kigali to accommodate the airspace closure. Passengers on all other flights scheduled to arrive or depart during the 11 a.m. to 12 noon timeframe are advised to check with their respective airlines to ensure they have up to date flight information for the days in question, 25th November, 07th December and 12th December.

africaken254:
seriously and we have to hear about this from @RwandAir !? what are those relevant authorities tasked in such matter,have the courtesy to inform the public !?its just appalling

nigeria

Fidha254:
Only KCAA or KAA have the authorities to approve such a thing (cause a delay).... And since this is not an extraordinary circumstances such as an accident or natural phenomenon like bad weather.... The airport management cannot anounce directly to the public for fear of being held liable for any loss incurred due to cancelled flights or expenses ...thus the airport management would tell all the airlines and leave the responsibility to the airlines affected in that 1 hour delay to find alternatives or work it out with its customers and convince them to be willing to come later and expect to be delayed by an hour, because if there is a 1 hr delay, when the sky is free again, there will be a backlog and all airlines for that day will have to adjust there schedules, KAA won't be able to keep up and inform everyone, only respective airlines can inform thier passengers if there are any changes to their scheduled flights...if KAA were to anaounce that directly to the public without waiting for respective airlines to inform its customers, then then the airlines can hold KAA liable for any losses incured due to perssengers cancelling flights all together for that day

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