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Besides it was in this country that MKO won elections free and fair across the country because of the masses were United in kicking the Military junta out.
Even Kano voted MKO over their son, so what do you have to say about that @humilitypays?

Ugosample:
And who planted the seeds of discord amongst ethnic groups in the first place?
It's the same politicians.
On a one on one basis, nobody has a problem with his neighbour who is from a different ethnic group, they all conduct their business and do their things together in major cities Nationwide, but when politics enter the equation, you will see the cracks, which is very funny because the masses don't benefit from the spoils even if the politician is from their own village (Go to Ota, Otueke and now Daura to see for yourself)


That is the root problem, politicians plant seeds of discord to divide the people; the whole divide and conquer tactic.

That's true. Another thing is, Nigeria has no common natural factor uniting us as one nation!

We speak different Languages abi dialects!

We have different cultures and traditions!

We have different religion!

Yorubas will do well on their own as a nation!

Igbos will do well too!

Hausas will do well!

Hausas and Fulanis can co-habit as one nation without much crises because they share similar religion, dialect and culture!

Igbos will live peacefully with Niger Delta (except Edo State; Edo people will live more peacefully with Yorubas than with Igbos)!

Every nation ought to have their one national religion, can Nigeria say they have one religion No!

Human beings are shaped by their belief, and most human beliefs are religious. This is why having similar religion as a nation plays a key role in unifying the citizens!

Nigeria isn't one and can never be one no matter how hard we try! Only time will tell if Nigeria will remain one or not!‎

Ugosample:
Regions don't control armies, it's going to be the Nigerian Army and will remain so.
But for police, there will be federal and state /regional police, the way it is in USA


Honestly, from the way you talking, you don't know what confederacy or Restructuring mean

You are wrong as there are many models. In the old USSR. regional army divisions were staffed by locals, it was part reason the USSR broke up without incidence. Then in the first republic of Nigeria, the regions controlled their police, they had their IGs. When Biafra was declared, the Yoruba managed to compel the Feds to return all soldiers to their region which they did, the Northerners were stationed in Ilorin, then the Biafrans invaded the West.

So the system we practice now wasnt agreed upon by us and if we return to the old system, the country will breakup within six months without incidence. This isnt a country anymore. So better sit up.

One thing to know is that even in a Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa country, you can't just mix everything together! There will be fights if you do that! You might say why not reorganise Nigeria then? But on what basis? There should be a tangible basis for something.

humilitypays:
That's true. Another thing is, Nigeria has no common natural factor uniting us as one nation!

We speak different Languages abi dialects!

We have different cultures and traditions!

We have different religion!

Yorubas will do well on their own as a nation!

Igbos will do well too!

Hausas will do well!

Hausas and Fulanis can co-habit as one nation without much crises because they share similar religion, dialect and culture!

Igbos will live peacefully with Niger Delta (except Edo State; Edo people will live more peacefully with Yorubas than with Igbos)!

Every nation ought to have their one national religion, can Nigeria say they have one religion No!

Human beings are shaped by their belief, and most human beliefs are religious. This is why having similar religion as a nation plays a key role in unifying the citizens!

Nigeria isn't one and can never be one no matter how hard we try! Only time will tell if Nigeria will remain one or not!‎

Is India "one"
Is Canada "one"

Is Ivory Coast "one"
Is Cyprus one?
is Belgium one?
What of Switzerland?
Or even Singapore?

Are they not living in peace and developing their countries?
Except you want to say that Nigerians are a special breed of subhuman who cannot live in peace together?

Anyways I still believe in the unity of the country and we can work things out, but in the case of disintegration (which is highly unlikely) I will just disown that place and cling to my second nationality, because I can't be associated with what I know will fail.

And also remember that indeed, there are MANY Hausa Christians in the north, you you can't say for sure that they share the same religion absolutely

lawani:
You are wrong as there are many models. In the old USSR. regional army divisions were staffed by locals, it was part reason the USSR broke up without incidence. Then in the first republic of Nigeria, the regions controlled their police, they had their IGs. When Biafra was declared, the Yoruba managed to compel the Feds to return all soldiers to their region which they did, the Northerners were stationed in Ilorin, then the Biafrans invaded the West.

So the system we practice now wasnt agreed upon by us and if we return to the old system, the country will breakup within six months without incidence. This isnt a country anymore. So better sit up.

One thing to know is that even in a Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa country, you can't just mix everything together! There will be fights if you do that! You might say why not reorganise Nigeria then? But on what basis? There should be a tangible basis for something.

So what do you propose, lemme hear from You

PIPPROF:
full blooded Akwa Ibomite here

would rather join Biafra than stick with this foolish project called Nigeria

so speak for yourself

i cant be part of a foolish system that has not worked since 1960 and expect it to work in 2060

do you know the SE on their own if they had a good sea port would have worked wonders

ogbeni keep quiet jor and let us hear word. Nigeria has not worked? What is your definition of work........ Just tell me poverty has been disturbing your family since 1960

Ugosample:
So what do you propose, lemme hear from You

I BELIEVE IN TOTAL DISINTEGRATION JUST LIKE THE CIA AND LIKE THOSE WHO QUICKLY FORGAVE NIGERIA'S DEBT DURING OBJ'S PRESIDENCY. THERE IS NO ETHNIC GROUP THAT CAN NOT STAND ALONE AND IF THEY STAND WITH OTHERS, IT MUST BE WILLINGLY. I WANT THE YORUBA SPHERE OF WEST AFRICA TO FORM A NATION DELINEATED INTO TRADITIONAL STATES. I BELIEVE A NATION LIKE BARIBA WILL WANT TO BE PART OF THE YORUBA SPHERE WITH ALL THEIR LANDS IN NIGERIA AND BENIN REPUBLIC TOGETHER AS ONE STATE. HAUSA SHOULD MERGE WITH SW NIGER. JUST REARRANGE EVERYTHING INTO TRUE NATIONS AND SEE AS DEVELOPMENT ROARS INTO LIFE. THE IGBOS CAN SEEK ALLIGNMENT WITH EASTERN IJAW, CALABAR AND ETC FOR NUMBERS. I BELIEVE TOGO AND BENIN WILL HAPPILY JOIN THE YORUBA WEST AFRICA. A NATION SHOULD TAKE ALL INCOME TAX IN ITS TERRITORY. I DONT WANT TO PREEMPT HOW SOME ETHNIC NATIONS WILL ALLIGN BUT NO NATION IS TOO SMALL TO BE SOVEREIGN. THEY CAN ONLY BE TOO SMALL TO BE A MEMBER OF A RESTRUCTURED UN.

lawani:
I BELIEVE IN TOTAL DISINTEGRATION JUST LIKE THE CIA AND LIKE THOSE WHO QUICKLY FORGAVE NIGERIA'S DEBT DURING OBJ'S PRESIDENCY. THERE IS NO ETHNIC GROUP THAT CAN NOT STAND ALONE AND IF THEY STAND WITH OTHERS, IT MUST BE WILLINGLY. I WANT THE YORUBA SPHERE OF WEST AFRICA TO FORM A NATION DELINEATED INTO TRADITIONAL STATES. I BELIEVE A NATION LIKE BARIBA WILL WANT TO BE PART OF THE YORUBA SPHERE WITH ALL THEIR LANDS IN NIGERIA AND BENIN REPUBLIC TOGETHER AS ONE STATE. HAUSA SHOULD MERGE WITH SW NIGER. JUST REARRANGE EVERYTHING INTO TRUE NATIONS AND SEE AS DEVELOPMENT ROARS INTO LIFE. THE IGBOS CAN SEEK ALLIGNMENT WITH EASTERN IJAW, CALABAR AND ETC FOR NUMBERS. I BELIEVE TOGO AND BENIN WILL HAPPILY JOIN THE YORUBA WEST AFRICA. A NATION SHOULD TAKE ALL INCOME TAX IN ITS TERRITORY. I DONT WANT TO PREEMPT HOW SOME ETHNIC NATIONS WILL ALLIGN BUT NO NATION IS TOO SMALL TO BE SOVEREIGN. THEY CAN ONLY BE TOO SMALL TO BE A MEMBER OF A RESTRUCTURED UN.

O.K.

lawani:
I BELIEVE IN TOTAL DISINTEGRATION JUST LIKE THE CIA AND LIKE THOSE WHO QUICKLY FORGAVE NIGERIA'S DEBT DURING OBJ'S PRESIDENCY. THERE IS NO ETHNIC GROUP THAT CAN NOT STAND ALONE AND IF THEY STAND WITH OTHERS, IT MUST BE WILLINGLY. I WANT THE YORUBA SPHERE OF WEST AFRICA TO FORM A NATION DELINEATED INTO TRADITIONAL STATES. I BELIEVE A NATION LIKE BARIBA WILL WANT TO BE PART OF THE YORUBA SPHERE WITH ALL THEIR LANDS IN NIGERIA AND BENIN REPUBLIC TOGETHER AS ONE STATE. HAUSA SHOULD MERGE WITH SW NIGER. JUST REARRANGE EVERYTHING INTO TRUE NATIONS AND SEE AS DEVELOPMENT ROARS INTO LIFE. THE IGBOS CAN SEEK ALLIGNMENT WITH EASTERN IJAW, CALABAR AND ETC FOR NUMBERS. I BELIEVE TOGO AND BENIN WILL HAPPILY JOIN THE YORUBA WEST AFRICA. A NATION SHOULD TAKE ALL INCOME TAX IN ITS TERRITORY. I DONT WANT TO PREEMPT HOW SOME ETHNIC NATIONS WILL ALLIGN BUT NO NATION IS TOO SMALL TO BE SOVEREIGN. THEY CAN ONLY BE TOO SMALL TO BE A MEMBER OF A RESTRUCTURED UN.

Rwanda and Burundi has Hutu and Tutsi and yet could not stand each other.
South Sudan is a mess today even after separation.
Eritrea left Ethopia yet where are they today?

The root cause of Nigeria's problem has always been greed from those who led us.

With the enormous resources at our disposal, if the leaders have developed the country and majority of the people had what to eat and what to do, do you think anyone will be talking about secession?

Ugosample:
Rwanda and Burundi has Hutu and Tutsi and yet could not stand each other.
South Sudan is a mess today even after separation.
Eritrea left Ethopia yet where are they today?

The root cause of Nigeria's problem has always been greed from those who led us.

With the enormous resources at our disposal, if the leaders have developed the country and majority of the people had what to eat and what to do, do you think anyone will be talking about secession?

what about inter ethnic clashes? Killing people on their own ancestral land by foreigners? How do you solve that? What about disappearing languages and cultures? What about national id?

Answering one of those who tried to differentiate the South South and the South East on this thread. Don't try to spread falsehood. Asaba and Onitsha are the same people. They are all Ibos. The Ibo speaking people in Delta are Ibos like the Onitsha and Nnewi. The Egbema people in Imo and Egbema people in Rivers are the same. Obigbo town, now called Oyigbo is an Asa town and the are Ibos. Asa people occupy from Obehie in Abia to Oyibo in Rivers. Truth be told, the Etche people are Ibo and their land stretch upto Aba- Ngwa. The Ndoki people migrated from Ijawland as Bonny and Opobo, today, the Ndoki people are found in Ukwa East in Abia State, Oyigbo in Rivers and in Akwa Ibom. Ibo language have different tribes that can be found in the five South Eastern states, Delta and Rivers. Let Nigerians stop being economical with the truth.

tuale4u:
The five south east state can leave nigeria if they want, nobody cares as long as no single south south soil is included.

I know IPOB would soon come and attack me with thier usual boring lines listed below:

1. Who are you to speak for entire South South or Niger Delta.

My question to them: who are IPOB to even speak for the entire south east.

2. There is no word like South South in Geography.

My answer to them: words are created by man and nations. Nigeria have created the word South South and it has come to stay. Deal with it. The word South South is also used by the United Nation. U can google to get educated.The word google,facebook,IPAD were created in our lifetime.

3. You are yoruba and Afonja.

My answer to them: i am a full blooded Niger Deltan like Amadi Elechi, Anthony Enahoro, Ken Saro Wiwa, Isaac Adoko Boro , Ateke Tom, Ayiri etc who rejects Biafra. If you dont believe, u can go hug toilet!

4.They will not leave any Igbo tribe in south south behind when they break away.

My answer to them: We dont have Igbo in South South. What we have in south south is distinct independent ethnic nationalities like Kwale, igbanke, ikwerre, Anioma, Etc. Cubans are not Mexicans,Texans are not Mexicans, Portuguese are not spanish even though they share border, history and language similarities.

5.We dont want South South because of oil.

You can say that to a one year old infant. There is low oil price today, all the south east states are currently facing strong recession.

6. Your Divide and Rule wont work.

My answer to IPOB is that they are the king of Divide and rule. Whenever a Niger Deltan speak on Niger Delta issue, IPOB fraud are quick to tell you how Ijaw cant speak for Urhobo, how edo cant speak for Isoko and Itsekiri cant speak for ndokwa etc. IPOB always want to tell us Niger Deltans how diverse and different we are while downplaying our strong simililarities and history so dat they can easily annex us as small insignificant groups.

7. There will be a Referedum where South south will have to chose between Nigeria and Biafra.

This is d most deluded statement of IPOB which can only happen in thier wet dreams. If there will be referedum in Nigeria it can never be two choice but multiple choices. The choice will and must definitely include the following: Niger Delta Republic, Nigeria , Biafra, Oduduwa, Arewa and others. Niger Delta Republic is our preferred choice as south south people.

8. Nigeria is a creation of white man. They want old eastern region back. The people were not consulted before the almagamation of Nothern and Southern protectorates.

My Answer to them: Old Eastern region was also a creation of a white man. The white man did not consult all the various ethnic nationalities in all the regions before they created the eastern, western and Northern region. People were forcely lumped together as eastern region. This is obvious with the Joy of Rivers State and Cross Rivers state people when they were seperated from a dominant Oppressive tribe in old eastern region to create thier own state. Wike the Governor of Rivers state just celebrated this issue last year by naming port Harcout township Stadium as Yakubu Gowon Station.
Delta State including Asaba was never at any time in history part of Eastern region. Delta state including asaba was first part of of Benin Kingdom/Empire before becoming part of Western Region, then part of Mid West, then part of Bendel before becoming Delta state today.

9. In Biafra, every region will own thier resources and pay tax to the centre. South south people should not be afraid of losing thier resources to a dominant tribe.

My answer to them: Why will South South people be comfortable to paying any form of tax to a centre likely to be controlled by a dominant tribe with the least resources, least landmass and almost more than 50% of the resulting population of such union. We will rather form our own Niger Delta Republic and run our things ourselves alone. I think we will prefer resource control in Nigeria than that your dream Biafra.


10. Your dream Niger Delta Republic will not work because south south people are too diverse and different

My answer to them: Divide and Rule in action. Your dream Biafra will be more diverse than our dream Niger Delta Republic. Your dream Biafra is our dream Niger Delta Republic plus South East. However even if Niger Delta Republic will not work, we are ok with it breaking into three or six different countries. It is our problem. Leave it for us. Afterall Soviet union broke into more than 20 countries and the world have not ended. In Summary, Niger Delta people wants Resource Control, Fiscal Federalism or Niger Delta Republic as last option if Federal Republic of Nigeria breaks.

Please don't spread lies. Asaba and Onitsha are the same. The Delta Ibos are Ibos. In Rivers State, Obigbo is an Asa town and Asa people are Ibos. Egbema in Rivers and Egbema in Imo is same people.

NaWetinDey:
Some hungry and frustrated ignoramus think that creating a country out of an already internationally recognized one is like cracking groundnut with the teeth. Yes, we want Biafra that will be independent from Nigeria ( just because diversification applies to everything for success) but, it can only be done the UN stipulated way, or not. Alternative will be to have over 100 bunkers stuffed with latest, American, Israeli, Russian, German and British instruments and machines of modern day warfare. Anyone hitting on his chest in affirmation for another matchete-and-Dane-gun-Biafra war experience is on his one. And if he's claiming to be a leader and gathering people, he should be stoned to death or thrown into a sea with a large steel tied to his neck...and Biafrans themselves are to do it. It's only a fool who thinks that bravery is synonymous with irrational and stupid thinking. You are irrational when you rush to the war front without properly equipping yourself and you are stupid if you think that you can win with just your mouth running like a cursed stream. Worst are those who think that the world will 'dash' them Biafra simply because they are carrying flags, cursing their elders and their young, blaspheming against Jehovah and causing nuisance everywhere they are to the point that the world now looks at the Igbos as a people who want to always speak but not always listen. If we had listened, Biafra would have been closer or Nigeria would have been compelled to stand right. For those who shout ignorantly that "2016 is not 1967-1970," well, just look at Syria and tell me what you see: they have been at war for about half a decade and the end date is not fixed yet. The world is watching them with no one doing anything to stop the killing; Biafrans themselves have not as much as contributed for relief materials to Syrian refugees but they think that the world will rush and remove them from Nigeria as a David would remove his father's sheep from the mouth of the lion. It's silly. Syrian Rebels ( rebels: for this is what Biafrans will be called in the event that stupidity drives some people into more serious crime) have weapons and they are more united but, as at today, Biafrans have lost the spirit of Biafra to selfishness and quest for vain self-glory. A word a enough for those of sound mind. If Biafra is ever going to move from the mind into reality, a new map has to be drawn. Those who think they have the mandate of Biafra today are just thieves and robbers. And if you are still in doubt, just stick to your ground to your own detriment obviously; then watch and see as things unfold.

All Igbos need is for just one super power to support us. Just one and all una fvckups will be thoroughly treated.

flamyd:
ogbeni keep quiet jor and let us hear word. Nigeria has not worked? What is your definition of work........ Just tell me poverty has been disturbing your family since 1960

so no light , no healthcare system, dead infrastructure only affects poor people

your very foolish for mentioning me

your type are the reason Nigeria is being run by old goats, cause your comfortable with the peanuts you earn and feel flywhile the country goes to the doldrums

Malawian:
All Igbos need is for just one super power to support us. Just one and all una fvckups will be thoroughly treated.

Lol. All that is needed for people like you seeking for the blood of innocents to spill is one super power to support you in achieving that? You are weaker than weakness itself and totally ineffectual. That's why God mocks and holds you in derision. Biafra under the present setting WILL NEVER COME! Go and write it down. Before it comes if it will, all of you children of abomination trained in cursing your elders, parents, siblings and people in authority will have entered self-destruct. And the Chukwu Abiama whose name you use to plot the enthronement of evil is ETERNALLY against you and the present people seeking glory over spilled blood. Write that down too because they will all come to pass.


You have just told the world that no super power is behind the present ego-driven quest for Biafra, I thought you guys said Putin of Russia was an in-law and in support? Caricatures.

lawani:
i was not born then. Which division, led by whom, set out from where attacked Bonny?. You need to be clear because I know Col [b]David Ejoor [/b]did not allow the Feds to fight on MW land as Chief Awo too did not allow attacks launched from the West. So which books are you talking about? You need to put yourself in people's shoes before blaming them. God forbid that Yorubas be colonised by Igbos!.

You need to get yourself a bit of education if you tend to dance in the public. David Ejoor was nobody and had remained nobody till date. I cannot waste my time writing piece relating to one David Ejoor. The said David Ejoor could not even ride a bicycle talk less stopping Gowon from using any space in Midwestern region.

Malawian:
All Igbos need is for just one super power to support us. Just one and all una fvckups will be thoroughly treated.

even then you have no chance..

any western nation that comes to your aid will have to face non western nations..

russia,china,iran will not allow any western nation to try yeye in nigeria the same way in syria today...

at the end you would be fighting alone...

you thought too that western nations would send help in the biafran war..we blocked that..

stop dreaming...

Alariwo2:
Lagos is SW... originally called Eko

forget what the igbos will tell you.. Hausas will never dispute the fact yorubas own Lagos.. capital city or not
Ogun, Ondo and co. are coming up soon.. it will shock the world

I'm still yet to understand how a group can claim industrious or hardworking in other people's lands.. baffles me really

Give it to them, they are industrious, intelligent and dominant and that is why most people don't like them. They own half of Lagos, like it or not. They own half of Port Harcourt or more. Take it or leave it. But deal with it. They are crossing over to Accra. They are dubious and tend to play smart. But when you show that you are their equal, they do business with you as equals. I learn lessons doing business with them and number one is not to trust anyone when it comes to money.

Deban:
Please don't spread lies. Asaba and Onitsha are the same. The Delta Ibos are Ibos. In Rivers State, Obigbo is an Asa town and Asa people are Ibos. Egbema in Rivers and Egbema in Imo is same people.

Could you please stop telling people who they are or are not.
I am confident that Delta State and Onitsha at some point were part of Edo land

Deban:
Answering one of those who tried to differentiate the South South and the South East on this thread. Don't try to spread falsehood. Asaba and Onitsha are the same people. They are all Ibos. The Ibo speaking people in Delta are Ibos like the Onitsha and Nnewi. The Egbema people in Imo and Egbema people in Rivers are the same. Obigbo town, now called Oyigbo is an Asa town and the are Ibos. Asa people occupy from Obehie in Abia to Oyibo in Rivers. Truth be told, the Etche people are Ibo and their land stretch upto Aba- Ngwa. The Ndoki people migrated from Ijawland as Bonny and Opobo, today, the Ndoki people are found in Ukwa East in Abia State, Oyigbo in Rivers and in Akwa Ibom. Ibo language have different tribes that can be found in the five South Eastern states, Delta and Rivers. Let Nigerians stop being economical with the truth.

Brother it is NOT Nigerians but Muslim Afonjas the specilize in telling lies and fake propaganda. The good thing about the situation is that on ground Igbos are present unlike Yoruba that was kicked out of illorin

badboywizzy:
lolz !!!

One thing I'v known Afonjas for is their bad attitude of opening their mouths very wide without making any positive contribution.

If I may ask, what do you understand by the word tout ?

Every afonja thinks tout is agbero

cnonyechi:
See dis one. Shame on u Shame whatever u call urself

BIG SHAME O

shamecurls:
Constructively attack tuale4u post and don't reign insults. He made a very clear valid point which you have a right to disagree with constructively.

Focus on ur shame

nacozee:
Focus on ur shame

Is that all?

Alariwo2:
I dey vex now..

which igbos are majority? which kind misyarn be this na

VEX ABEG. VEX WELLA. U FIT DIE TOO

shamecurls:
Is that all?

YES. Just focus on that.

Stupedinluv:
I am not sure about your second line.

And i wasnt expecting an igbo to disagree

igbos di healthy and intelligent na. haba are u stupidinluv or just 'stupid'?

slurryeye:
Sorry to say Igbos are not majority tribe in Nigeria, they are only majorly minority

they are minority,yet u are scared they want to take over your south waaste. NAWA O

flamyd:
ogbeni keep quiet jor and let us hear word. Nigeria has not worked? What is your definition of work........ Just tell me poverty has been disturbing your family since 1960

Looks like ur cerebrum consists only white matter

Deban:
Please don't spread lies. Asaba and Onitsha are the same. The Delta Ibos are Ibos. In Rivers State, Obigbo is an Asa town and Asa people are Ibos. Egbema in Rivers and Egbema in Imo is same people.

Don't mind the dude. His rants reveal their underlying plan.... but they will fail. Every group must be presented with the opportunity to make their choice. The Igboid group in the South South must be given an option between NDR or Biafra, or whatever that deems good for them. Not this nonsense propaganda they carry online everyday.

RickyTan:
The writer said Nothing and is a non entity on the ground as he could not even state his tribe but claimed the usual internet Niger Deltan? It is clear the e rat that you call writer is scared of the Great Igbos. Igbos are majority in the East and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Eze Nwarji in Obi Igbo Rivers state is now a muslim Afonja? Please

Igbo is not majority in the south east but the only tribe in the south east

Places like south south is where you will call Igbo one of the majority tribes