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John 16:2. They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God


Jesus is the lord

xtivin:
John 16:2. They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God


Jesus is the lord

Men trying to help their creator!

Flexherbal:
Men trying to help their creator!

1chronicle 13 verse 9-10
When they came to the threshing floorof Kidon, Uzzah reached out his hand to steady the ark, because the oxen stumbled.
The LORD's anger burned against Uzzah, and he struck him down because he had put his hand on the ark. So he died there before God

LESSON: God does not need the help of man my friend.On the contrary,does the porter need the help of the clay?

xtivin:
1chronicle 13 verse 9-10
When they came to the threshing floorof Kidon, Uzzah reached out his hand to steady the ark, because the oxen stumbled.
The LORD's anger burned against Uzzah, and he struck him down because he had put his hand on the ark. So he died there before God

LESSON: God does not need the help of man my friend.On the contrary,does the porter need the help of the clay?

if God didn't need help of man why did the ark (or wooden construction) have to stay in obediodom (what ever the spelling is) house. do you hurt people who genuinely have intention of helping you even when the help is not needed (besides; the ark was actually going to fall) what do you want Obedidom children to think of God,

isn't that worse than terrorism

God is a psychopath and a bloody ingrate

stop defending the undefendable

oluwaseyi000:
if God didn't need help of man why did the ark (or wooden construction) have to stay in obediodom (what ever the spelling is) house. do you hurt people who genuinely have intention of helping you even when the help is not needed (besides; the ark was actually going to fall) what do you want Obedidom children to think of God,

isn't that worse than terrorism

God is a psychopath and a bloody ingrate

stop defending the undefendable

God is not a man like you and I,About the ark issue It was during the veil period where the glory of God dwells in the ark and Jesus christ have broken that veil.I am not in to argue with an atheist like you,the little advice I have for you is to repent and turn to Jesus he is the path to light.I repeat the porter chooses to do whatever he wants with the clay and the clay has no right to question the porter.

oluwaseyi000:
if God didn't need help of man why did the ark (or wooden construction) have to stay in obediodom (what ever the spelling is) house. do you hurt people who genuinely have intention of helping you even when the help is not needed (besides; the ark was actually going to fall) what do you want Obedidom children to think of God,
isn't that worse than terrorism
God is a psychopath and a bloody ingrate
stop defending the undefendable

Dont talk about Bible if you dont know its Content

Why did God kill people who touched or looked into the Ark?


1 Samuel 6:19

But God struck down some of the men of Beth Shemesh, putting seventy of them to death because they had looked into the ark of the Lord. The people mourned because of the heavy blow the Lord had dealt them.

2 Samuel 6:2-7 (also 1 Chr 13:7-10)

He and all his men set out from Baalah of Judah to bring up from there the ark of God, which is called by the Name, the name of the Lord Almighty, who is enthroned between the cherubim that are on the ark. They set the ark of God on a new cart and brought it from the house of Abinadab, which was on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab, were guiding the new cart with the ark of God on it, and Ahio was walking in front of it. David and the whole house of Israel were celebrating with all their might before the Lord , with songs and with harps, lyres, tambourines, sistrums and cymbals.

When they came to the threshing floor of Nacon, Uzzah reached out and took hold of the ark of God, because the oxen stumbled. The Lord's anger burned against Uzzah because of his irreverent act; therefore God struck him down and he died there beside the ark of God.


The Ark of the Covenant was an embodiment of God's presence with the Israelites. The atonement cover (or "mercy seat" that covered the ark was God's throne (2 Sam 6:2) and God's presence was above it (Lev 16:2); it was also the place where God met Moses and gave him commands (Ex 25:22). If someone approached the ark, they would effectively be in God's presence - a sinner standing before a holy God who does not tolerate evil (Ps 5:4-6) - and would die as a result of their sins. For this reason, God had given the Israelites many rules concerning the Ark of the Covenant. It was to be kept in the Most Holy Place in the temple, hidden from view by a curtain (Ex 26:33). Only the high priest could enter the Most Holy Place, and then only after he had undergone ceremonial cleansing, made sacrifices to atone for his sins and the nation's sins, and burned incense to conceal the atonement cover (Lev 16). When the ark was moved, it was covered with at least 3 layers of cloth by the priests to protect others from seeing it (Num 4:5-6, 15, 18-20); the priests/Levites carried it and everyone else had to stay about a thousand yards away (Josh 3:4). These laws enforced the concept of God's holiness: sinful people couldn't be in his presence, not even the high priest.

Hence, when Uzzah touched the ark, he was profaning it and disobeying God; he should have grabbed the poles used for carrying the ark instead, for that was their purpose (Ex 25:14-15). And as Glenn Miller points out in his response, the ark shouldn't have been on a cart anyway, but should have been carried on people's shoulders (1 Chr 15:15).

The Israelites who looked in the ark were actually violating several laws: they came near to the ark (a violation if they weren't Levites), they looked at the ark, they touched the ark and they moved the atonement cover, which was God's symbolic throne. Since God's presence was on/over the ark, they were actually coming into the presence of God - and without the least sense of reverence towards him, since they decided to poke around and play with his throne! Is it any wonder they died?

xtivin:
1chronicle 13 verse 9-10
When they came to the threshing floorof Kidon, Uzzah reached out his hand to steady the ark, because the oxen stumbled.
The LORD's anger burned against Uzzah, and he struck him down because he had put his hand on the ark. So he died there before God

LESSON: God does not need the help of man my friend.On the contrary,does the porter need the help of the clay?

Exactly what i am trying to say.

oluwaseyi000:
if God didn't need help of man why did the ark (or wooden construction) have to stay in obediodom (what ever the spelling is) house. do you hurt people who genuinely have intention of helping you even when the help is not needed (besides; the ark was actually going to fall) what do you want Obedidom children to think of God,

isn't that worse than terrorism

God is a psychopath and a bloody ingrate

stop defending the undefendable

you can get mad at God for all I care.

Atheism is DEAD AND BURIED. so drop it.

Flexherbal:
Men trying to help their creator!

explain please.