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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 2:08pm On Dec 01, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Now you are changing your tune. Making it right is different from questioning Vanquay patriotism. Let me tell you one thing you don't understand about America, no matter which side of political divide they find themselves, they do not question each other patriotism.
Not really mate. Most republicans condemn and question the patriotism of people who burn the American flag. I can give instances if you want. It is only the democtats that do not condemn these acts. infact at the democratic convention the democrats refused to fly the American flag until they were criticized.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 2:16pm On Dec 01, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Exactly my point that the people who fought and died for the flag died for Freedom of speech which burning the flag is part of. So, no one question the patriotism of flag burners. People express their freedom of speech differently as long as it is civil. You can even disfigured or burn your Dollars, who cares. That's America 101 for you. It's a different ball game here.
I am sure that no one fought for the flag to get burnt. if you ask the military men who put their life on the line for you to be alive they will tell you that they didnt fight for you to burn the flag.

To proove my point a school just toook down an American flag and right now VeterAns thousands oof them are staging a protest at that school.

So you have the right to butn the flag but it is frowned upon and is unAmerican.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:26pm On Dec 01, 2016
stanech:
I am sure that no one fought for the flag to get burnt. if you ask the military men who put their life on the line for you to be alive they will tell you that they didnt fight for you to burn the flag.

To proove my point a school just toook down an American flag and right now VeterAns thousands oof them are staging a protest at that school.

So you have the right to butn the flag but it is frowned upon and is unAmerican.
Thank God that your rants doesn't go farther than Nairaland. I have two veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan in my family and both of them feel differently. Bye,
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 2:34pm On Dec 01, 2016
Breaking news: North Carolina school board upholds suspension for teacher who stepped on #Americanflag https:///t580Ask7kH
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 2:36pm On Dec 01, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Thank God that your rants doesn't go farther than Nairaland. I have two veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan in my family and both of them feel differently. Bye,
Ha rant?

Even hillary did prop some jail time for people who burn the American flag .
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 2:37pm On Dec 01, 2016
North Carolina school board upholds suspension for teacher who stepped on #Americanflag https:///t580Ask7kH
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 2:46pm On Dec 01, 2016
Breaking:



Stale Flakes: Average Age of House Democratic Leadership is 76 https:///hVnwnrhf9C via @gatewaypundit

Lol where are the young liberals
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 2:52pm On Dec 01, 2016
The average age of the House Republican leadership is 47.
The average age of the House Democratic leadership is 76.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 2:59pm On Dec 01, 2016
Cut off welfare & jobs to Illegals and the majority will deport themselves.
#ThursdayThoughts
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 3:04pm On Dec 01, 2016
#winning



Hiring Spikes After Donald Trump's Election -
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 3:12pm On Dec 01, 2016
fact
lol

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech:
But he hates women and minorities

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 3:16pm On Dec 01, 2016
lol

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 3:36pm On Dec 01, 2016
CFCman:
grin grin You are wicked
What did Nigerian girls do to you, lol.

I also thought she was in her 30s, not knowing that she's my mate. Although I don't agree with some of her views, I admire her articulate nature.

She also recently graduated from Harvard Law School too. She's got brains and beauty.
Bro,Nigerian Girls no do me something ohhh just be realistic nii jare...Havent seen a Nigerian Girl that has a wide grasp of Foreign Affairs.My sweetheart is trying though..And yes,Kayleigh is Brilliant..Give it to her..
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 4:03pm On Dec 01, 2016
stanech:
North Carolina school board upholds suspension for teacher who stepped on #Americanflag https:///t580Ask7kH
The decision of the NC school board will easily be quashed by a court of law.
The school board, being a governmental entity and funded by taxpayers money, cannot unduly restrict the First Amendment rights of its employees or students.

The act of stepping on the flag (alone) is a form of protected speech
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 4:07pm On Dec 01, 2016
stanech:
Trump's first big win as president-elect: saving many jobs in Indiana from going to Mexico. Never would have happened under Clinton. -BO'R
Fighting the many lies of the Trumpsters is sure a hard job.

The fiscally Conservative party that has constantly attacked their liberal counterpart for being the opposite.

You can fool yourselfs but the facts says otherwise.

Here's your beloved Fox News report.

www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/30/hundreds-could-still-lose-jobs-at-carriers-indianapolis-plant-despite-trump-deal.amp.html

Now we have Republicans celebrating Trump cutting deals with private companies to keep jobs when he offers them federal incentives and massive tax.

The same republicans won't acknowledge or sing praises of President Obama for saving 250,000 jobs at GM and Chrysler as well as 2million jobs in the entire automotive supply chain through the auto bailout.

Donald has opened the doors for companies to scam the government of money to stop shipping jobs abroad.Someone like Donald who wants to be perceived as doing a good job will wreck the economy when he hands out billions in incentives to these companies.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 4:09pm On Dec 01, 2016
stanech:
But he hates women and minority
I'll give him credit for having some diversity in his cabinet. I'm also hearing that Frances Townsend, a woman and a member of GW Bush's National Security Council, is being tapped to be Director of National Intelligence.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 4:10pm On Dec 01, 2016
stanech:
But he hates women and minority
I believe you meant Donald's team of conservative elites,Washington insiders,corporate overlords.

He's draining the swamp while making it ten feet deeper.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 4:13pm On Dec 01, 2016
stanech:
Ha rant?

Even hillary did prop some jail time for people who burn the American flag .
Cut the bullsh*t.I posted contents of the bill here yesterday.Stop reveling in ignorance please.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 4:19pm On Dec 01, 2016
stanech:
Not really mate. Most republicans condemn and question the patriotism of people who burn the American flag. I can give instances if you want. It is only the democtats that do not condemn these acts. infact at the democratic convention the democrats refused to fly the American flag until they were criticized.
Democrats believe in the Constitution and respect it.Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has said he doesn't support the act but the constitution is clear on it.It's First Amendment and his party can't be in the way of it.

Stop peddling that nonsense of Democrats not flying the flag at the convention.The conservative believe that you can only show your patriotism by flying the flag or pinning one to your chest is very very ridiculous.

Patriotism is in acts and deeds,the value and love for country,the belief in American ideals and priniciples,the belief in America itself which allows you burn a flag in protest.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 4:26pm On Dec 01, 2016
CFCman:
I'll give him credit for having some diversity in his cabinet. I'm also hearing that Frances Townsend, a woman and a member of GW Bush's National Security Council, is being tapped to be Director of National Intelligence.
I wish Valerian steel and Lucas can see through their Liberal lens for once
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 4:32pm On Dec 01, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Fighting the many lies of the Trumpsters is sure a hard job.

The fiscally Conservative party that has constantly attacked their liberal counterpart for being the opposite.

You can fool yourselfs but the facts says otherwise.

Here's your beloved Fox News report.

www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/30/hundreds-could-still-lose-jobs-at-carriers-indianapolis-plant-despite-trump-deal.amp.html

Now we have Republicans celebrating Trump cutting deals with private companies to keep jobs when he offers them federal incentives and massive tax.

The same republicans won't acknowledge or sing praises of President Obama for saving 250,000 jobs at GM and Chrysler as well as 2million jobs in the entire automotive supply chain through the auto bailout.

Donald has opened the doors for companies to scam the government of money to stop shipping jobs abroad.Someone like Donald who wants to be perceived as doing a good job will wreck the economy when he hands out billions in incentives to these companies.
So which option is better. Allowing the company to move out and take thousands of jobs and tax away from America or cut a deal that allows these company to stay and continue to provide jobs and pay tax to the American government?

Remember the reasons these companies are moving out in the first place is due to lots and lots of taxes heaped on them by the Obama admin and stupid deals lie Nafta and TPP that are choking the hell out of them.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 4:41pm On Dec 01, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Democrats believe in the Constitution and respect it.Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has said he doesn't support the act but the constitution is clear on it.It's First Amendment and his party can't be in the way of it.

Stop peddling that nonsense of Democrats not flying the flag at the convention.The conservative believe that you can only show your patriotism by flying the flag or pinning one to your chest is very very ridiculous.

Patriotism is in acts and deeds,the value and love for country,the belief in American ideals and priniciples,the belief in America itself which allows you burn a flag in protest.
We are saying the same thing it is their right but I am saying that it is always the republicans that lately have stood up to condemn the idiots that are burning these flags, They have the right to burn the flag but that doesn't make it morally right.


Conservatives are not saying you should pin one to your chest all they are saying is do not burn the flag. You may have the right to but it is morally wrong to do it..

Like I said before, IF you don't see anything wrong in burning the flag then you are part of the problem
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 4:45pm On Dec 01, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Cut the bullsh*t.I posted contents of the bill here yesterday.Stop reveling in ignorance please.
Meaning what? That she didn't advocate apunishment for burning the flag? because there is actually a video evidence of that,
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 4:46pm On Dec 01, 2016
fact

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 4:48pm On Dec 01, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Cut the bullsh*t.I posted contents of the bill here yesterday.Stop reveling in ignorance please.

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 5:01pm On Dec 01, 2016
CFCman:
The decision of the NC school board will easily be quashed by a court of law.
The school board, being a governmental entity and funded by taxpayers money, cannot unduly restrict the First Amendment rights of its employees or students.

The act of stepping on the flag (alone) is a form of protected speech
That is if he is challenging the decision but trust me the interest of the parents and the students will be considered when the judges decides on the case. They might tell him to stay out of the school or stop stepping on the flag
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by stanech: 5:40pm On Dec 01, 2016
Democrats can expect to lose many more elections if they can’t figure out basic problems like this.

Nancy Pelosi represents everything that is wrong with the dem party...



remember her we neeed to pass the bill so you can see whats in it remark?
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 6:19pm On Dec 01, 2016
ValerianSteel:
www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/30/hundreds-could-still-lose-jobs-at-carriers-indianapolis-plant-despite-trump-deal.amp.html

Now we have Republicans celebrating Trump cutting deals with private companies to keep jobs when he offers them federal incentives and massive tax..
Trump saved a thousand jobs and there are still more jobs to save. Is it not better to save these 1,000 jobs than lose everything altogether?

Of what benefit will it be to the US people and economy if these jobs were shipped to Mexico
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 6:48pm On Dec 01, 2016
raumdeuter:
Trump saved a thousand jobs and there are still more jobs to save. Is it not better to save these 1,000 jobs than lose everything altogether?

Of what benefit will it be to the US people and economy if these jobs were shipped to Mexico
The fact that you guys miss the whole point is alarming.

Private companies being paid with incentives to stop shipping jobs abroad will fleece the state government and federal government of billions in tax payers money while claiming to keep jobs without directly improving the work conditions and benefits to workers.

Carrier is the perfect example,they are still going to ship 1300 jobs to Mexico while Indiana gives the company $7million.Every company can comfortably scam the government of money without adding new jobs and even still ship jobs abroad.It's a two way business for Carrier,they ship 1300 to Mexico where they get cheaper labor and lower cost of production while they take huge tax cuts from the federal government and incentives which they can direct to their companies in Mexico to make their products.

Guess who benefits,the private company.They don't have to employ new people,all they have to do is keep the ones they have running and keep taking incentives while comfortably making their products in Mexico as well.The big companies get tax cuts,the average guy will see an increase in his own taxes.

Republicans complained about Obama's auto bailout that saved millions of auto jobs but now they are comfortable with Trump doing the same with tax cuts and federal incentives.

The math don't add up to help the economy,it keeps it surviving but it barely moves the needle beyond what it is now and if this becomes a trend for the new administration the economy will be worse off.Trickle down economics doesn't work and it sure won't work when the same people you give huge tax cuts to continue to take money from you to keep their business running.

http://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/indiana-gives-7-million-in-tax-breaks-to-keep-carrier-jobs-1480608461

Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 6:56pm On Dec 01, 2016
You still havent told us of what benefit will it be to the country of the jobs are shipped to Mexico as against keeping them in America at all cost
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:59pm On Dec 01, 2016
raumdeuter:
You still havent told us of what benefit will it be to the country of the jobs are shipped to Mexico as against keeping them in America at all cost
The consumer goods will be cheaper and developed countries will be forced to create new industries. wink

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