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Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by troylaurenz(op): 4:03am On Dec 10, 2016

In December 2009, I was at Aburi, while holidaying in Ghana. We Nigerians call it A-b-u-r-i, but the Ghanaians pronounce it as E-b-r-i. For those who have read widely about the civil war that we fought between 1967 and 1970, Aburi is a significant place. This was what I wrote about Aburi, after returning from that journey: “Aburi. Beautiful, serene Aburi, set daintily atop a hill. It is home to a botanical garden that is 119 years old. But for us in Nigeria, Aburi goes beyond just nature and its preservation. It is the town where General Yakubu Gowon and Odumegwu Ojukwu met, to try and avert the Nigerian Civil War that lasted between 1967 and 1970. They came out with Aburi Accord, which later broke down. And a shooting war started. You could see the Presidential Lodge on a hill, where the Nigerian leaders had parleyed at the behest of Ghanaian leaders. It all ended in futility.” As one of the key parties to the Aburi Accord, Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, returns to mother earth today, it is also apposite to return to Aburi, and look at the letter and the spirit of the accord once again, an agreement that was violated by the Federal side, and which made a bloody internecine war inevitable. For most part of 1966, the northern part of Nigeria, particularly, had been turned to killing fields. Non-natives, especially Igbos, were killed in thousands. Many fled, many others were displaced. There was complete anarchy in the land. The average Igbo looked up to Lt. Col Odumegwu Ojukwu, military governor of the Eastern Region, to provide leadership and direction. He did not fail. He picked the gauntlet and championed the cause of his people. By January 1967, the drums of war were loud and clear, reverberating across the length and breadth of Nigeria. But there was a last ditch effort to prevent what was imminent. There was a peace meeting hosted at Aburi, in Ghana, by the then Ghanaian head of state, Gen J. A. Ankrah. At the meeting were Gowon, Ojukwu, all the military governors of the regions, and some top civil servants, both from the Federal side and the Eastern region. The meeting held on January 4 and 5, 1967, and came out with what is popularly known today as the Aburi Accord. The agenda of the meeting consisted of three crucial issues: (i) Reorganization of the Armed Forces (ii) Constitutional agreement (iii) Issues of displaced persons within Nigeria.

The two-day meeting reached consensus that were acceptable to both sides. Among others, it was resolved that legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government was to remain in the Supreme Military Council (SMC), to which any decision affecting the whole country shall be referred for determination provided it is possible for a meeting to be held, and the matter requiring determination must be referred to military governors for their comment and concurrence. What does this mean in simple language? The SMC would run the affairs of the country, but not without consulting the regions as represented by the military governors. This was something akin to federalism, even under a military government. Other terms of the agreement include that appointments to senior ranks in the police, diplomatic and consular services as well as appointment to superscale posts in the federal civil service and the equivalent posts in the statutory corporations must be approved by the SMC. What does this mean again in simple language? Equity, fairness, true federalism. Other matters like the holding of an ad hoc constitutional conference, fate of soldiers involved in the January 15, 1966 coup, rehabilitation of displaced persons, etc, were also amicably resolved, and the conferees returned happily to Nigeria. Only for the Federal side to deliver a blow to the solar plexus: the Aburi Accord, Gowon said, was unworkable, and he reneged on all the agreements. Using the Eastern Nigerian Broadcasting Service, Ojukwu played the tape recording of the proceedings at Aburi repeatedly, to educate the populace on who was playing Judas. Later, he made a broadcast in which he said: “we in the East are anxious to see that our differences are resolved by peaceful means and that Nigeria is preserved as a unit, but it is doubtful, and the world must judge whether Lt. Col Gowon’s attitudes and other exhibitions of his insincerity are something which can lead to a return of normalcy and confidence in the country. “I must warn all Easterners once again to remain vigilant. The East will never be intimidated, nor will she acquiesce to any form of dictation. It is not our intention to play the aggressor. Nonetheless, it is not our intention to be slaughtered in our beds. We are ready to defend our homeland.” In a piece I did last December, shortly after Ojukwu passed away, I said he was virtually pushed into war by the infidelity of the Federal side to the Aburi Accord. I still stand by that position. Ojukwu was called ‘warlord’ for many decades, but he was by no means a warmonger. He only did what he needed to do for his people–and for the country. As his earthly remains are interred today, it is tragic that Nigeria is still submerged in the morass that Ojukwu already identified about 45 years ago. Today, bombs go off like firecrackers in the country. There is agitation for the review of the revenue allocation formula. There are strident calls for the convocation of a sovereign national conference. Even some component parts are threatening to pull out of the federation if anything happened to their ‘son’ who is now in power. Didn’t Ojukwu warn of these landmines ahead? Were all these issues not already settled at Aburi? Foremost journalist and media administrator, Akogun Tola Adeniyi, in a recent media interview, explained the Aburi Accord this way: “Let every region be semi-autonomous and develop at its own level.” Yes, that was the spirit and letter of Aburi, but which sadly became a road not taken. And is that not why we are still suffering today, living in a rickety and decrepit country that can burst at the seams any moment? I tell you, Ojukwu was a prophet, and like most prophets, he had no honour in his own country. Pity. But whether we like it or not, there’s no way we won’t return to Aburi. Willy-nilly. I only hope it will be sooner than later, before Nigeria goes to grief. On Aburi I stand. Federal Government was perfidious and duplicitous on Aburi. It is still the same way today. That is why as Nigerians, we are most times disillusioned, dismayed, dispirited, dejected and depressed. When will change come to this land? Our hearts are getting weary. Last December, I wrote that Ojukwu should be buried like a hero. I’m glad at the rites of passage so far, culminating in the interment today. Yes, bury him like a true hero. An icon, an avatar, deserves no less. This generation will surely not see another like Ojukwu. He fought not only for his own people, but for a true federation founded on justice, fair play, equity and rectitude. Unfortunately, he did not see the Nigeria of his dreams. Will we? Adieu the Ikemba, the Eze Igbo Gburugburu. May your soul rest in peace. Ka nkpur’obi gi zue ike n’adukwa.

Femi Adesina

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by balanceofterror1(m): 4:17am On Dec 10, 2016

Hmmm!

Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by Blizzy9ja: 4:33am On Dec 10, 2016

Femi Adesina wrote this when he still had his proper sense of judgement intact... I hope the world also see this and i believe he still has a copy in his archive.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by paragon40(m): 5:46am On Dec 10, 2016

God bless Nigeria

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by sarrki(m): 5:48am On Dec 10, 2016

Hmm

Sir femo I hail thee

Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by TheEastActivist: 8:09am On Dec 10, 2016

Cool guy... Ojukwu

Nice one from Femi

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by superstar1(m): 8:29am On Dec 10, 2016

At independence, we had semi-autonomous regions, who in their greed and power thirsty cancelled a political system that was working very well? Igbos through Ironsi.

Who concentrated power at the centre? Ironsi

Why was Ojukwu suddenly asking for devolution of power again at Aburi? The igbos lost out in the power play.

What was he looking at for 6months that he could not advise his kinsmen Ironsi to reverse his concentration of power at the centre? The Igbos saw it as an opportunity to lord it over others and which they were ready to fully take advantage of.

If there was no coup of the igbos of Jan 66 and concentration of power at the centre, there would not have been an Aburi Accord. You cannot eat your cake and have it back.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by CandyDiamond(f): 8:42am On Dec 10, 2016

superstar1:
At independence, we had semi-autonomous regions, who in their greed and power thirsty cancelled a political system that was working very well? Igbos through Ironsi.

Who concentrated power at the centre? Ironsi

Why was Ojukwu suddenly asking for devolution of power again at Aburi? The igbos lost out in the power play.

What was he looking at for 6months that he could not advise his kinsmen Ironsi to reverse his concentration of power at the centre? The Igbos saw it as an opportunity to lord it over others and which they were ready to fully take advantage of.

If there was no coup of the igbos of Jan 66 and concentration of power at the centre, there would not have been an Aburi Accord. You cannot eat your cake and have it back.

You are always a tribal bigot,every time Igbo this, Igbo that,them use Igbo swear for you, is it not Gowon that canceal the regional government

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by superstar1(m): 8:51am On Dec 10, 2016

CandyDiamond:
You are always a tribal bigot,every time Igbo this, Igbo that,them use Igbo swear for you, is it not Gowon that canceal the regional government

My primary duty on NL, a yoruba man's social forum, is to dispel all the lies of the Igbos and thank God you have known me for that.

Another of the lies of the Igbos again ---- Gowon only created more regions, your Ironsi cancelled regional govt.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by ShootToKill: 9:15am On Dec 10, 2016

sarrki:
Hmm
Sir femo I hail thee

Mrkayusfit, no more anti-IPOB views from you? Wetin happen? grin

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by Nobody: 9:42am On Dec 10, 2016

superstar1:
My primary duty on NL, a yoruba man's social forum, is to dispel all the lies of the Igbos and thank God you have known me for that.

Another of the lies of the Igbos again ---- Gowon only created more regions, your Ironsi cancelled regional govt.

...and this article was written by an Igbo man. A man on a mission indeed. undecided

mtcheewww

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by MadamExcellency: 9:53am On Dec 10, 2016

superstar1:
At independence, we had semi-autonomous regions, who in their greed and power thirsty cancelled a political system that was working very well? Igbos through Ironsi.

Who concentrated power at the centre? Ironsi

Why was Ojukwu suddenly asking for devolution of power again at Aburi? The igbos lost out in the power play.

What was he looking at for 6months that he could not advise his kinsmen Ironsi to reverse his concentration of power at the centre? The Igbos saw it as an opportunity to lord it over others and which they were ready to fully take advantage of.

If there was no coup of the igbos of Jan 66 and concentration of power at the centre, there would not have been an Aburi Accord. You cannot eat your cake and have it back.

I can't see how Ironsi affected resource control before his demise hence stop deceiving gullible Nairalanders.

Federalism in itself is not a bad system but the destruction of institutions and structures of fair governance.

From the article posted below, there is no Easterner involved in the determination of resource control and sharing formula. The only active actors were the some Northern leaders and Obasanjo pulling the strings where Obasanjo's cruelty is a manifestation of his genetic makeup.

Educate yourself before exposing your foolishness in the open.

How and when did we get it wrong.........
HOW CRUDE OIL TAXES WERE SHARED FROM 1958 - Kalu Aja.

Well before the independence of Nigeria, as at 1958 this was how crude oil taxes were shared…

1958:
1. Oil Producing States retained 67.4% of Mining Rents and Royalties
2. Federal Government got 20% of Mining Rents and Royalties
3. Non-oil states got 12.6%

So the crude oil and gas was owned by the oil producing states, that how the British left it.

In 1970, General Yakubu Gowan passed decree No 13, this was how crude oil taxes were now to be shared.

1970
1. Oil Producing States retained 45% of Mining Rents and Royalties
2. Federal Government got 55% of Mining Rents and Royalties
3. Non-oil states got 0%

So in the military’s wisdom, the non-oil states did not deserve to get any share of oil revenues. Oil was only for the oil producing states and the Federal Government.

Then 1975, General Murtala Muhammed introduced decree 6, this is how crude oil taxes were shared

1975
1. Oil Producing States retained 20% of Mining Rents and Royalties
2. Federal Government got 80% of Mining Rents and Royalties
3. Non-oil states got 0%

Again the military decided the oil producing states should “manage” 20%. of oil revenues non-oil states got zero…

In 1976, Gen Obasanjo created a technical commission called the Aboyade Technical Commission, this was the result

1976
1. Oil Producing States got 0% of Mining Rents and Royalties
2. Federal Government got 100% of Mining Rents and Royalties
3. Non-oil states got 0%

Obasanjo, also introduced the Consolidated Revenue fund aka FAAC, thus, the oil taxes were centrally pooled, then shared to all states.

This was the important junction in Nigeria fiscal federalism, this was when crude oil was federalized, taken from the states, managed by the federal government then shared back to the states. In essence, crude oil was no longer based on derivation but on metrics like equality, fiscal efficiency and absorptive capacity…

In 1979, President Shehu Shagari set up the Okigbo Commission, to review the sharing of oil revenues. The Commission agreed to retain the Obasanjo 0% allocation to oil producing state and continue with FAAC but they tweaked the sharing formula in FAAC…. they came up with 1979

[center]Equality of States 50%
Population 40%,
Land mass 10% [/center]
So here we see population of states and land mass introduced

in just 9 years, the oil producing states saw their share of crude oil taxes go from 67.4% to zero. It took until the year 2000 for the implementation of 13% back to the oil producing states.
So in summary, its 67% to 0% to 13%.

Oil revenues were in essence transferred from the states to the federal government by decree, even today, if Exxon Mobil pays VAT on operations in an oil producing state, that VAT is shared by the federal government to all states of the federation. Oil is a federal baby….

What is the effect? Well massive inefficiency in the oil and gas sector.
It’s fair to say the FGN has mismanaged the oil industry, NNPC is essentially broke…can’t manage its assets to return a profit

We still flare gas, i.e. we legally “burn” money, The FGN has taken the oil wells but can’t pay Joint Venture cash calls...the FGN can’t clean the oil spills, they can’t even pass a PIB...

So why hold the oil? If they can’t manage it? Well because the FGN has built a massive bureaucracy funded by crude oil, the FGN pays for primary education and primary health care, then also funds religious pilgrimages and football.

These powers the FGN has given to itself outside the constitution have been made possible because the FGN has grabbed a hold of the oil wealth of the nation. for instance primary schools are the function of the Local Governments and the Constitution recognizes that and allocates money to them, but the revenues for the local governments are paid to the states….via a "joint" account.

Right now, we have a problem, there is no more oil and salaries must be paid, salaries that had been paid by crude oil.
The Federal Government enjoyed a monopoly on telecoms in Nigeria, the result was that a phone became a luxury, only for the rich, in 2001, the FGN left the business of communication, became a regulator and tax recipient, and today everyone has a phone, I mean everyone…

What is the fascination in crude oil that the FGN still wants to own it? if the Federal Government can hand over Telecoms, regulate and tax the telecoms companies...why not do the same for crude oil? Before 2001, the FGN funded NITEL, today the GSM companies fund the FGN.

Thing have to change. Nigeria can’t say its practicing a federal system of governance without fiscal federalism, that will be like driving a car without wheels.

So what should we do? It’s a no brainier, give the oil back to the people, Tax the oil business....simple

1. The FGN has to get out of business, and set itself as a regulator of business and recipient of business taxes, the gains are obvious, its costs are reduced, and its revenues go up.

2. Give the oil and non-oil assets back to the states and local governments, let states retain the proceeds of exports from their states. In essence if cocoa is exported, the state or origin of that cocoa get a share of the Company income tax by derivation

This is not just a call for resource control, it’s a call for responsibility allocation, as long as the FGN is responsible for collecting 95% of taxes and Local Government are paid their allocation via states, we can’t really expect and demand much.

“To him who little is given…little is expected” It’s our problem, we can fix it...
By: Kalu Aja"

www.freedomafric.com/home/how-crude-oil-taxes-were-shared-from-1958-kalu-aja-t3182.html

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by superstar1(m): 10:02am On Dec 10, 2016

MadamExcellency:
I can't see how Ironsi affected resource control before his demise hence stop deceiving gullible Nairalanders.

Federalism in itself is not a bad system but the destruction of institutions and structures of fair governance.

Educate yourself before exposing your foolishness in the open.

“To him who little is given…little is expected” It’s our problem, we can fix it...
By: Kalu Aja"

www.freedomafric.com/home/how-crude-oil-taxes-were-shared-from-1958-kalu-aja-t3182.html

You are looking at symptoms and not the root cause.

The day Ironsi centralised power was the day he laid the foundation for some people in the nearest future to hijack resources in the name of Almighty Federal Government. Put the blame of resource control at the doorstep of an Igboman that did not think through his decision into the future before implementing it.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by zendy: 10:05am On Dec 10, 2016

superstar1:
My primary duty on NL, a yoruba man's social forum, is to dispel all the lies of the Igbos and thank God you have known me for that.

Another of the lies of the Igbos again ---- Gowon only created more regions, your Ironsi cancelled regional govt.

You're not dispelling anything. You're just promoting the Lagos/Ibadan expessway media version of Nigerian history.

You are calling it an Igbo coup yet more Northern foot soldiers were involved its execution than anybody else and at least 4 Yoruba officers were amongst it ring leaders, one of which (Ademoyega) has long stated in his book that it was not an Igbo coup

They said that Ironsi introduced decree 34 and cancelled the regions yet they dont say that decree 34 was a joint decision of the supreme military council. Ironsi could not have cancelled the 4 regions because the 4 regions were existing long after Ironsi died. They would have still been there if Gowon had not embarked on his state creation exercise and Nigeria would have reverted back to true federalism whenever civilian rule returned.

Aburi made Nigeria a confederation, Yorubas and their Northern cohorts then teamed up to fight Ojukwu in other to make Nigeria a far more unitary state than Ironsi ever made it. You guys can lie all you want but history cannot be distorted.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by MadamExcellency: 10:12am On Dec 10, 2016

superstar1:
You are looking at symptoms and not the root cause.

The day Ironsi centralised power was the day he laid the foundation for some people in the nearest future to hijack resources in the name of Almighty Federal Government. Put the blame of resource control at the doorstep of an Igboman that did not think through his decision into the future before implementing it.

Ironsi's era was not a regime rather a transition hence stop fooling yourself with I too know. He never created States rather he appointed administrators to govern the existing regional structures hence where and when did he collapse the regions?

You are infested with psychological prejudice hence your views are inarticulate.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by superstar1(m): 10:13am On Dec 10, 2016

zendy:
You're not dispelling anything. You're just promoting the Lagos/Ibadan expessway media version of Nigerian history.

You are calling it an Igbo coup yet more Northern foit soldiers were involved its execution than anybody else and at least 4 Yoruba officers were amongst it ring leaders, one of which (Ademoyega) has long stated in his book that it was not an Igbo coup

They said that Ironsi introduced decree 34 and cancelled the regions yet they dont say that decree 34 was a joint decision of the supreme military council. Ironsi could not have cancelled the 4 regions because the 4 regions were existing long after Ironsi died. They would have still been there if Gowon had not embarked on his state creation exercise and Nigeria would have reverted back to true federalism whenever civilian rule returned.

Aburi made Nigeria a confederation, Yorubas and their Northern cohorts then teamed up to fight Ojukwu in other to make Nigeria a far more unitary state than Ironsi ever made it. You guys can lie all you want but history cannot be distorted.

Utter rubbish.

Yorubas can team up with anybody they like, they careless whse ox is gored. We do not hold Igbos responsible for teaming up with northerners with Zik forming govt with Balewa. It is your catastrophic choice.

who was the head of the Supreme Council? DO you think there is a dissenting voice in the army or you have an idea of how to do something when your superior is talking in the army?

The coup remains Igbo coup and it will forever be. Deal with it. The same way July 1966 was a core North coup and 1991 coup of gideon orkar was middle belt coup.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by superstar1(m): 10:17am On Dec 10, 2016

MadamExcellency:
Ironsi's era was not a regime rather a transition hence stop fooling yourself with I too know. He never created States rather he appointed administrators to govern the existing regional structures hence where and when did he collapse the regions?

You are infested with psychological prejudice hence your views are inarticulate.

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who asked him to transit? He did not collapse the regions but he took all administrative powers away from the region to the federal. Read his first 3 decrees.

WHy was Dipcharima , a civilian not allow to transit? Equally remember that he was the one that was elected by the council. Orizu, the Senate president and another Igbo man refused to swear him in and handed over power to Ironsi.

This made the Igbo plot more obvious to all. Igbos killed the leaders of other regions, another Igbo man handed over power to a military Igbo man who webt ahead to centralise power so that Igbos can lord it over the whole country in their usual garrulous manner.

Read up on history dude.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by zendy: 10:19am On Dec 10, 2016

superstar1:
Utter rubbish.

Yorubas can team up with anybody they like, they careless whse ox is gored. We do not hold Igbos responsible for teaming up with northerners with Zik forming govt with Balewa. It is your catastrophic choice.

who was the head of the Supreme Council? DO you think there is a dissenting voice in the army or you have an idea of how to do something when your superior is talking in the army?

The coup remains Igbo coup and it will forever be. Deal with it. The same way July 1966 was a core North coup and 1991 coup of gideon orkar was middle belt coup.

Man you have some serious issues. But more importantly, you have to start asking your self why you want to be with people who dont want to be with you

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by superstar1(m): 10:24am On Dec 10, 2016

zendy:
Man you have some serious issues. But more importantly, you have to start asking your self why you want to be with people who dont want to be with you

Our forefathers never interacted with you.

Our fathers do not know you and we careless about what you with yourselves. We do not want to be with you for anything. That is why you will never see us coming into your eroded and desolated enclave, whereas on day can never pass without 50 bus load of refugees from alaigbo arriving in SW.

In a sane environment, your agitation must follow a logical sequence rather dancing like programmed zombies having early morning exercise in the name of protest and security forces are using you for target practise and Boko Haram simulations.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by zendy: 10:42am On Dec 10, 2016

superstar1:
Our forefathers never interacted with you.

Our fathers do not know you and we careless about what you with yourselves. We do not want to be with you for anything. That is why you will never see us coming into your eroded and desolated enclave, whereas on day can never pass without 50 bus load of refugees from alaigbo arriving in SW.

In a sane environment, your agitation must follow a logical sequence rather dancing like programmed zombies having early morning exercise in the name of protest and security forces are using you for target practise and Boko Haram simulations.

Which is why I thought you guys would be jumping up in happiness when you hear that Igbos want to go. So whats this so called logical sequence? Which logical sequence created Nigeria? Asking for logical sequence is like asking for a divorce when you never had a wedding. Or is it because it is Igbos? Would you guys be talking like this if the North decides to go for Arewa Republic? Would you guys decide to go war to keep the Northerners in 'one Nigeria'?

All this is about the 'empire building' trait that is inherent in the Yoruba people since time immemorial where they want to be with people they have historical or cultural connection with

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by CandyDiamond(f): 11:19pm On Dec 10, 2016

superstar1:
Our forefathers never interacted with you.

Our fathers do not know you and we careless about what you with yourselves. We do not want to be with you for anything. That is why you will never see us coming into your eroded and desolated enclave, whereas on day can never pass without 50 bus load of refugees from alaigbo arriving in SW.

In a sane environment, your agitation must follow a logical sequence rather dancing like programmed zombies having early morning exercise in the name of protest and security forces are using you for target practise and Boko Haram simulations.

Yet you are attaching yourself to them by fire by force to remain with you in Nigeria, at least you should be happy for them to go so that those buses will not be coming into your region again,but here you are jumping up and down on one Nigeria.Who is fooling who

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by zendy: 1:29am On Dec 11, 2016

CandyDiamond:
Yet you are attaching yourself to them by fire by force to remain with you in Nigeria, at least you should be happy for them to go so that those buses will not be coming into your region again,but here you are jumping up and down on one Nigeria.Who is fooling who

They are only fooling themselves. Someday in the near future, the Yoruba man will have to accept that the days of 'empires' are over and that self determination is a universal right

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by T9ksy(m): 2:57am On Dec 11, 2016

CandyDiamond:
Yet you are attaching yourself to them by fire by force to remain with you in Nigeria, at least you should be happy for them to go so that those buses will not be coming into your region again, but here you are jumping up and down on one Nigeria.Who is fooling who

Wake up and smell the damn coffee, my dear!!!

Even if ibos get their biafra tomorrow, they will still be trooping down to the south-west in droves for their "all american dream".

Do your own independent research rather than take my word for it but i bet you my bottom dollar that your findings will surely lay credence to the FACT which is, the high population of ibos extraction who stayed behind in yorubaland, (but definitely not in the north) during biafran war.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by omoelesa(m): 7:33am On Dec 11, 2016

superstar1:
Our forefathers never interacted with you.

Our fathers do not know you and we careless about what you with yourselves. We do not want to be with you for anything. That is why you will never see us coming into your eroded and desolated enclave, whereas on day can never pass without 50 bus load of refugees from alaigbo arriving in SW.

In a sane environment, your agitation must follow a logical sequence rather dancing like programmed zombies having early morning exercise in the name of protest and security forces are using you for target practise and Boko Haram simulations.

Sir,pls easy on the flatthead,this load is too heavy for this head.

Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by BALLOSKI: 7:47am On Dec 11, 2016

Ojukwu and trouble are like this

Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by BALLOSKI: 8:02am On Dec 11, 2016

superstar1:
At independence, we had semi-autonomous regions, who in their greed and power thirsty cancelled a political system that was working very well? Igbos through Ironsi.

Who concentrated power at the centre? Ironsi

Why was Ojukwu suddenly asking for devolution of power again at Aburi? The igbos lost out in the power play.

What was he looking at for 6months that he could not advise his kinsmen Ironsi to reverse his concentration of power at the centre? The Igbos saw it as an opportunity to lord it over others and which they were ready to fully take advantage of.

If there was no coup of the igbos of Jan 66 and concentration of power at the centre, there would not have been an Aburi Accord. You cannot eat your cake and have it back.

they were responsible for our woes . Ironsi introduced the unitary system.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by BALLOSKI: 8:04am On Dec 11, 2016

we in the East are anxious to see that our differences are resolved by peaceful means and that Nigeria is preserved as a unit, but it is doubtful, and the world must judge whether Lt. Col Gowon’s attitudes and other exhibitions of his insincerity are something which can lead to a return of normalcy and confidence in the country.

Did he say this? why can't our government identify an olive branch when it is extended to them?

Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by laudate: 10:15pm On Dec 11, 2016

T9ksy:
Wake up and smell the damn coffee, my dear!!!

Even if ibos get their biafra tomorrow, they will still be trooping down to the south-west in droves for their "all american dream".

Do your own independent research rather than take my word for it but i bet you my bottom dollar that your findings will surely lay credence to the FACT which is, the high population of ibos extraction who stayed behind in yorubaland, (but definitely not in the north) during biafran war.

Chai! Na where I dey since?? shocked

Better gist don dey flow here. Na on top this thread I go match brake today!! cheesy

Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by Iboko12: 10:26pm On Dec 11, 2016

superstar1:
My primary duty on NL, a yoruba man's social forum[b][/b], is to dispel all the lies of the Igbos and thank God you have known me for that.

Another of the lies of the Igbos again ---- Gowon only created more regions, your Ironsi cancelled regional govt.

A Yoruba man's social forum? cheesy

You are such a loser. Seun should rename it yoruland , let's see how far? Your yorubawood movie ,How far? To think that you are even older than Seun... Go bury your head in shame.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by DerideGull(m): 10:27pm On Dec 11, 2016

superstar1:
At independence, we had semi-autonomous regions, who in their greed and power thirsty cancelled a political system that was working very well? Igbos through Ironsi.

Who concentrated power at the centre? Ironsi

Why was Ojukwu suddenly asking for devolution of power again at Aburi? The igbos lost out in the power play.

What was he looking at for 6months that he could not advise his kinsmen Ironsi to reverse his concentration of power at the centre? The Igbos saw it as an opportunity to lord it over others and which they were ready to fully take advantage of.

If there was no coup of the igbos of Jan 66 and concentration of power at the centre, there would not have been an Aburi Accord. You cannot eat your cake and have it back.

It is unfortunate that your stream of thoughts do not represent your handle name of "superstar1" rather they represent "superdunce1". Was there any "power play" as you have alluded during the era in discussion? If so, I appreciate your indulgence in the explanation.

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Re: Ojokwu Did Not See The Nigeria Of His Dreams, Will We ? - Femi Adesina by Iboko12: 10:37pm On Dec 11, 2016

omoelesa:
Sir,pls easy on the flatthead,this load is too heavy for this head.

Hungry Afonja oni-doti, what has he said that made you think that the sun shines out of his ass.

Supermumu is an inferior Being ,he knows it, that's why he hides his insecurities by being a bigot on Nairaland... what's your own issues? Aids, syphilis, gonococus etc etc

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