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Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Rilwayne001: 12:02pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
tintingz: Lol, you cannot use your common sense in matters of religion, only scholars have the right to grade some hadeeth as unreasonable, therefore the above point is discarded. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 12:04pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
tintingz: Can you give proof the Hadith is not from the prophet. And the hadith is just showing you how sallah is that important. For any person to kill a Mumineen its better you destroy ka'aba. Its telling you the importance of Ka'aba Some things are only deterrent. We should be careful of Hadith we have no knowledge on. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by tintingz(m): 12:05pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
Rilwayne001:Lol. Me sef I be scholar. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Rilwayne001: 12:08pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
tintingz: I'm a scholar too. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Rilwayne001: 12:18pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
On a lighter note, this particular hadith is the type that terrorist hijack to perpetuate their evil desire. Next thing they just start burning people's house and quoting the hadith substantiate it. The matter tire person gan sef tintingz: 1 Like |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 12:36pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
The two ignoramuses that knows nothing about the deen keep speaking on a hadeeth that has already been explained, but in the bid to keep playing with the deen of Allaah, they keep wallowing in their pathetic ignorance, I pray Allaah guide you both(Rilawayne001 and tintingz). Allaah says; “If you ask them (about this), they declare: ‘We were only talking idly and joking.’ Say: ‘Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) that you were mocking? Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were Mujrimoon (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals, etc.)” 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Fundamentalist: 12:40pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
I pray i don't die a Hippocrate ..... If logic was been applied to Islam during the era of the companions , this Islam we are seeing today wouldn't have reached us. The Westerners really succeeded in making people Hippocrates in their religion. They bear the religious names but far away from it's practice. According to the Qur'an and sunnah Hippocrates are worse than disbelievers. Proudly fundamentalist 1 Like |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by tintingz(m): 12:45pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
FriendChoice:Is there any proof the said hadith is the Prophet(SA) word or was He the writer? Do you believe yawning is from shaitan? Sallah in mosque is important we got the message, we don't need to read how people will be burn on earth like that of hell fire. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by tintingz(m): 12:47pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
Rilwayne001:its already happening, no one can deny that. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by tintingz(m): 12:49pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:Oga, Do you believe the Prophet didn't yawn through out his life time? |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by tintingz(m): 12:51pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
The Sunnis have their hadith and the shias have their hadiths they follow and they call themselves Muslims. who is the hypocrite here? |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 12:53pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
tintingz: The Hadith has it authenticity chain from this to this..... Prove it wrong. Do you believe yawning is from shaitan? Not the topic of discussion.
They should also tell you stealing is bad and keep mute on it punishment that may result to caughting of hand. Like I say becareful challenging the words of the prophet. You are not learned to challenge Hadith. Tell us your position in authenticating a Hadith. 1 Like |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 12:53pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
tintingz: go and learn the deen properly. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 12:54pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
tintingz: Are you shia or are you Sunni. Which Hadith do you follow. So that we may give you excuse that you don't follow Hadith from so so person. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 1:01pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
FriendChoice: it has been explained severally to this brother by sino that the shia hadeeth are rejected not because they are shias, but because all their hadeeth is daaeef, according to classical shia scholars themselves, Sunnis on the other hand also reject some hadeeth in sunni sources don't they? as far a hadeeth is daeef it is rejected be it shia or Sunni sources. 3 Likes |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by tintingz(m): 1:04pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
FriendChoice:The hadiths were written after the Prophet (SA) demise, what makes them all the Prophet word? Why do we have authentic, weak hadiths? And why hadiths cherry picked by each sect? Not the topic of discussion.ok They should also tell you stealing is bad and keep mute on it punishment that may result to caughting of hand.Stealing is bad, the act of stealing someone properties, the punishment is just according each society. Sallah is an act of worship which will be reward by Allah, praying at home is not that bad that will result in burning their houses and the people. Is like saying I feel like killing those that doesn't believe in Allah and his messenger. 1 Like |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 1:08pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: OK if that is the case let me not waste my time. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by tintingz(m): 1:08pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
FriendChoice:I'm none of those sects. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 1:12pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
Documentation of the sunnah began during the time of the prophet (peace and blessing be upon him). 1 Like |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 1:19pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
snapscore: These hypocrites who deny the sunnah do not know that even the Qur'an they read today came from the same sources as the hadeeth, the hypocrites won't ask twice if they see a hadeeth that talks about a dua used in asking favor from Allaah, but if its hadeeth that don't go with their thinking, instead of asking for explanation, they suddenly become "rational". 5 Likes |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 1:21pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: 1 Like |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 1:25pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
tintingz: Advice to you. When you hold discussions with me always remember what you write or say. I don't easily forget. Now read the below colored bolded post of yours where you claim to be in a sect.... You made this post on 30 October just two months ago. tintingz: |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by tintingz(m): 1:59pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
FriendChoice:Oh because I didn't say I'm an ex-sunni Muslim? I don't go about calling myself Sunni Muslim because I'm not anymore, I don't tag myself to a sect. Nowhere I claim to be Sunni, what i posted was just a brief about my background as the thread was talking about Sunni and Shia namaz differences. 1 Like |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 2:09pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
tintingz: OK. You're now a follower of Qur'an only and any other hadith that suits your understanding and thinking? Regardless of it authenticity or otherwise. As far as you feel this is good then it is, since you claim to be a scholar of Hadith. ? Hypotheticaly let's assume you're a scholar. Is that how scholars invalided Hadith Based on what they think? Are Muslims atheist? |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by tintingz(m): 2:31pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
FriendChoice:Hadiths that harmonize with the Quran is what I follow. Some Hadiths doesn't e.g Quran said lashes for adulterers, Hadiths said stoning. There is nothing like Muslim atheist as it is conflicting, but there are rational Muslims. 2 Likes |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 2:49pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
tintingz: The Qur'an has never prescribe lashes for adulterers. Show us the place if indeed you're truthful. The Qur'an speaks on fornicator not adulterer. True of False? Then the Hadith speaks on adulterer So how those the Hadith contradict Qur'an Learn your Qur'an before you put yourself into trap. You just lied against Qur'an (Allah). * Let's take abulution. O you who believe, when you rise to observe the Salat, you shall wash your faces and your arms to the elbows, and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles." 5:6 Is that how you perform abulution? Is that how the Hadith explain wudu? Tell us how you perform wudu. The Hadith of wudu contradict the verse of Qur'an. Which one do u follow washing the arms, rinsing mouth and nose OR the Qur'an verse of washing the face. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by tintingz(m): 5:04pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
FriendChoice:The Quran talk about both fornication and adultery(unlawful sex). I'm not here to argue about this. Learn your Qur'an before you put yourself into trap. You just lied against Qur'an (Allah).The Quran talk about ablution so also the Hadith, there is no aguement on this. The case where punishment for adultery differ from each books? 1 Like |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Rilwayne001: 5:12pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
[s] lexiconkabir:[/s] Mr Albert Einstein, please believe whatever that makes you sleep and let me hold on to that makes me sleep too. Live and let's leave, that should be your mantra and not hate. Whatever you think you don't know, try to explain and if people don't accept your explanation, then keep shut and mind your fucking business instead of insulting them. You see, i said it the other day that your kind will physically attack anyone that dare have a different view of the views you hold. Biko, allow flow of LOVE OF OTHER PEOPLE irrespective of whatever they believe — in your life. There's no compulsion in religion. Enough said 2 Likes |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 5:47pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
Rilwayne001: I never knew calling one "ignorant" is an insult, perhaps it's the truth? ofcourse it is!! so many swearing words, well you can burst like a balloon for all i care, anyway, when you don't know a particular thing about the deen of Allaah, keep mute instead of playing with the religion of Allaah, that's the important thing here. 2 Likes |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Nobody: 6:01pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
mmsen: Your translation is erroneous. Correct it. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by mmsen: 6:05pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
Farmerforlife: You need to direct your request towards the OP - I have only quoted that which he claims to have pulled from the Quran. Not that it matters, this is far from the only instruction of violence in that book. |
Re: Men Praying At Home Without Excuse by Rilwayne001: 6:06pm On Dec 24, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: No it's not. It's a compliment. perhaps it's the truth? ofcourse it is!! Since that's what you feel and it flies your jet, then so be it. But he aware that it is subjective to you and not to reality. so many swearing words, Swearing words? Where? I'm just imploring you embrace love and not hate. You are always filled with hatred for those who don't accept your views. I ask you, are there compulsion in religion? If you try to propagate what you deem as truth and people refuse to accept it, why is it always hard for you to mind you business instead of calling them names? Your activities here speaks volume. If you are not attacking Albaqi.r, it would be emp.iree and other brothers who don't follow your creed. I repeat, your kind is the reason why people generalize that Muslims are violent. Like i said the other day, your kind will crush people that have a different belief with stone. If you say what you feel to be the truth and people refuse to accept, then leave them be. well you can burst like a balloon for all i care, anyway, Burst like balloon lol. Maybe you think I'm really perturbed by your arrogance and hatred. Sorry, I've seen more violent ignorant folks like you. when you don't know a particular thing about the deen of Allaah, keep mute instead of playing with the religion of Allaah, that's the important thing here. Why don't you kuku email Seun and tell him to make you and admin so that you can easily delete my posts and other posts that doesn't go down well with you? At least that'll be better. 4 Likes |
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