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Splinz:
Glad you said "we chose" and not God chose. In other word, Xmas is simply one of those human inventions that has no real bearing with God. See it as 'humans forcing it on God'.

Perhaps you'll find Mark 7:7 instructional at this point, and save yourself the futility of worshiping God the wrong way.

Who told you I'm an atheist?

PS: It is extreme foolishness for puny man to set aside his Maker's commands or invent his, and then somehow expects the Almighty to concur with him.

Does the clay say to the potter 'What are you making, or you have no sense?'

As Christians whatever we decree on earth is accepted in heaven. Heaven has accepted it, stop claiming Christian when you don't know who you are in Christ.

Pidgin2:
Lol why are you speaking for pagans, are you a pagan?

Pagans et al.
Sorry, I didn't know you don't know what "...et al" stands for.

Pidgin2:
Lol we are the chosen race, a royal priesthood, whatever we decree on this earth will be accepted in heaven. Heaven has accepted December 25th as a day chosen to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. We shall take over any celebration and any day we chose. Our God created the world and he established the heavens and the earth. If the sun god was strong enough why were Christians able to squash him and his worshippers so easily? Atheists you are next

This shows how little of history you know or are willing to know.

Pidgin2:
As Christians whatever we decree on earth is accepted in heaven. Heaven has accepted it, stop claiming Christian when you don't know who you are in Christ.

I hear you sis.

In effect, you're saying that you've been given the power to change laws and enact same? Saddening enough, Daniel spoke of "he who will attempt to change laws and seasons". Are you his partner Be careful of what you say in your bid to justify your Xmas!

I know my place and limit- my bounds, in Christ! Which is why I can't attempt to take God's prerogative- making laws and commanding obedience.

menxer:
This shows how little of history you know or are willing to know.

I don't care about how many days were dedicated to satan or Lucifer aka sun god. We as Christians cannot respect such days. We will declare them Christian festival days and celebrate our own God. No one stops pagans and atheists from doing the same thing but since our own God is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, we will always over shadow you all.

Edwinmason:
come to my house

to do what?

Splinz:
I hear you sis.

In effect, you're saying that you've been given the power to change laws and enact same? Saddening enough, Daniel spoke of "he who will attempt to change laws and seasons". Are you his partner Be careful of what you say in your bid to justify your Xmas!

I know my place and limit- my bounds, in Christ! Which is why I can't attempt to take God's prerogative- making laws and commanding obedience.

Go and read your bible, obviously you are one of the gullible ones who have built your foundation on sand. If you don't know the Church through Peter was given the keys of the gated of heaven and Christ said whatsoever is decreed on earth is accepted in heaven. You don't know the authority which God gave the Church /Christians abeg swerve.

Pidgin2:
Go and read your bible, obviously you are one of the gullible ones who have built your foundation on sand. If you don't know the Church through Peter was given the keys of the gated of heaven and Christ said whatsoever is decreed on earth is accepted in heaven. You don't know the authority which God gave the Church /Christians abeg swerve.

The authority to change laws and enact same?

And what is it you understand by "the keys to the kingdom of heaven?"

My dear, you can continue in celebrating your 'laws and customs'- pagan festival. But do not force it on God- He rejects it and other ways of the heathens!

Splinz:
The authority to change laws and enact same?

And what is it you understand by "the keys to the kingdom of heaven?"

My dear, you can continue in celebrating your 'laws and customs'- pagan festival. But do not force it on God- He rejects it and other ways of the heathens!

See this one. Pagan indeed , so Jesus is now a pagan god? Your tricks will never work with me. Pagan my foot! Cursed be the Idol called sun god and praise be Jesus Christ the king of Kings and Lord of Lords

menxer:
You should ask yourself, why are you celebrating a whitewashed and renamed pagan festival?

If we go by the Jesus story that the Shepherds were herding sheep when it happened, it can't be in December in the midst of winter. There's is a version that you may not accept, that Jesus was born something in March, which would make the shepherd story credible as they would be out herding by then.

As for 25 December, Yuletide, it's a celebration of the rebirth of the "Sun God," predating Jesus by thousands of years.

Anyways, "Sun God" is not far from "Son of God," and is easily synonymized.

Story, Story.

You can choose to celebrate your birthday anyday. In fact as a Christian you celebrate your life everyday. That is being appreciative of God for your existence.
I can choose to celebrate my dead mum any time of the year. So it matters not if Jesus was born in December or October.
What matters is we are celebrating Him.

If I choose to throw a party for the birth of my daughter who was born on june 6th in December 25th that falls on same day the Osun river goddess is being celebrated does it me we are celebrating the same thing or person?

About the Sun god that is being celebrated on 25th of December. Tell me if on your birthday a god is not being celebrated somewhere in world.
So if you were born on the day they worship Ogun or Sango you must because of that shift your birthday?
or cancel the fact that u were born on that day?

No second, no minute, no hour that a god is not being celebrated somewhere.
I have chosen to celebrate my God on the 25th of December and it should be no one's headache.

Atheists always have the notion that they know all but listen to them argue You'ld that they know nothing.

Pidgin2:
See this one. Pagan indeed , so Jesus is now a pagan god? Your tricks will never work with me. Pagan my foot! Cursed be the Idol called sun god and praise be Jesus Christ the king of Kings and Lord of Lords

Hmm. You're not getting it!

Again, reflect on Mark 7:7 for at least one minute. Think of what is at stake!

He said, "in vain do they worship me (Jesus)...". The point is, you can do all of that worships thinking God is pleased but He's not! That same Jesus you claimed to worship said so, I didn't!

Splinz:
Hmm. You're not getting it!

Again, reflect on Mark 7:7 for at least one minute. Think of what is at stake!

He said, "in vain do they worship me (Jesus)...". The point is, you can do all of that worships thinking God is pleased but He's not! That same Jesus you claimed to worship said so, I didn't!

Hello? Christmas is a day of celebration, we have chosen this day to celebrate the birth of Christ. You don't understand things, God will not send you to hell for celebrating His son. He would rather you celebrate his son than celebrate any Idol.

davtosh:
Atheists always have the notion that they know all but listen to them argue You'ld that they know nothing.

Actually, it's the here arguing amongst themselves.

Pidgin2:
As Christians whatever we decree on earth is accepted in heaven. Heaven has accepted it, stop claiming Christian when you don't know who you are in Christ.

Jehovah witness don't agree with you, do they know something you don't?

Splinz:
Hmm. You're not getting it!

Again, reflect on Mark 7:7 for at least one minute. Think of what is at stake!

He said, "in vain do they worship me (Jesus)...". The point is, you can do all of that worships thinking God is pleased but He's not! That same Jesus you claimed to worship said so, I didn't!

Guy I guess you a JW

hopefulLandlord:
to do what?

come chop jollof

How come Christians are watching secular movies, listening and dancing to worldly music?

How come they are wearing skimpy clothes?

Lastly, how many atheists have you seen celebrating christmas?

The Atheists are a group of confused persons who worship no God.
The Jehovah's Witnesses are a group of more confused persons who worship God.

lepasharon:
Jehovah witness don't agree with you, do they know something you don't?

Even the bible is against birthday celebrations because they were originally associated with pagan worship. I tire for these people

NinjaX:
How come Christians are watching secular movies, listening and dancing to worldly music?

How come they are wearing skimpy clothes?

Lastly, how many atheists have you seen celebrating christmas?

Christians are living in world that is shared with people of different religions and beliefs.
They are not angels who reside in heaven.
Everyone one in the world listens to secular music but the only thing is, there are some secular music Christians don't listen to. Same goes with movies and clothes you mentioned.

So don't ever think Christians are supposed to listen to music made in heaven or wear clothes made in heaven.
For your information Christians sin occasionally, we are not perfect, Jesus made us to know that. If angels were perfect Satan wouldn't have sinned.

The only difference between Christians and those who are not is.
While we sin occasionally due to imperfection, they make sin there way of life.

Hope u understand.

davtosh:
Christians are living in world that is shared with people of different religions and beliefs.
They are not angels who reside in heaven.
Everyone one in the world listens to secular music but the only thing is, there are some secular music Christians don't listen to. Same goes with movies and clothes you mentioned.

So don't ever think Christians are supposed to listen to music made in heaven or wear clothes made in heaven.
For your information Christians sin occasionally, we are not perfect, Jesus made us to know that. If angels were perfect Satan wouldn't have sinned.

The only difference between Christians and those who are not is.
While we sin occasionally due to imperfection, they make sin there way of life.

Hope u understand.

So why do Christians act like they are perfect by judging others? They condemn ppl who don't share the same beleif as them as if they are so sure they are going to heaven themselves

Sin is also a way of life for some Christians too.

I keep saying it :ALL religious ppl are hypocrites because there are no angels

davtosh:
Christians are living in world that is shared with people of different religions and beliefs.
They are not angels who reside in heaven.
Everyone one in the world listens to secular music but the only thing is, there are some secular music Christians don't listen to. Same goes with movies and clothes you mentioned.

Secular is secular.
That christians watch only some movies or music does not stop the fact that they are equally guilty of their accusations against non-christians. It's not that they unconsciously listen to secular music. In fact, they do it deliberately.

According to the bible, sin is sin regardless of the gravity of the sin.

Maybe you should bring to my notice the portion of the bible that categorises sin. In the long run, you would still enter hell even though you watched only some secular movies.

So don't ever think Christians are supposed to listen to music made in heaven or wear clothes made in heaven.

Huh?

For your information Christians sin occasionally, we are not perfect, Jesus made us to know that. If angels were perfect Satan wouldn't have sinned.

Don't want to go into this although it's flawed.

The only difference between Christians and those who are not is.
While we sin occasionally due to imperfection, they make sin there way of life.
Hope u understand.

Nope. On the contrary, the only difference between christians and others is that, while non-christians strive to not fault laws of the country because they are well aware of the penalty it attracts, christians on the other hand, give in to sin because they are covered by the grace of confession. Sharp difference there.

lepasharon:
So why do Christians act like they are perfect by judging others? They condemn ppl who don't share the same beleif as them as if they are so sure they are going to heaven themselves

Sin is also a way of life for some Christians too.

I keep saying it :ALL religious ppl are hypocrites because there are no angels

Sharon get it straight. No true Christian judges No. even the Bible says so. " Do not judge for you not to be judged"

To show humility someone called Jesus the good master and He replied " no one is good but God"
What He taught there is that no one is perfect.

The fact that someone is not a Christian doesn't mean you shouldn't respect and love them. The Bible says so. "Be at peace with all men" not with all Christians.

all men includes Atheists, Pagans, Free thinkers etc.

About being sure of making heaven, Yes every true Christian must think like that. Why? because you get that conviction in your spirit if born again. Every Christian is not perfect but tries to walk and work towards perfection. I don't kno if u get that.
Walking and working towards perfection is doing everything in your strength to run away from all evil. that doesn't mean u cant fall along the way but once that happens God that sees tru the heart of man knows how sincere you have been and how much you have tried before you fell due to the adamic nature and He forgives you.
That is where the grace from the death and resurrection of Christ comes in.

About some Christians making sin a way of life. my sister they are not Christians. it doesn't matter the name they bear.

Happy boxing day.

Demigods666:
She sounds very dull, dumb and retarded judging from her write up and level of mentality displayed after you showed her that Christmas is a stolen festive period by the Christians from pagans.
Or maybe she just want to be an hypocrite just like her fellow demented xtian slave brethrens.

And you sound very confused. If you're such a great satanist why does your signature include the Islamic confession of faith?

NinjaX:
Secular is secular.
That christians watch only some movies or music does not stop the fact that they are equally guilty of their accusations against non-christians. It's not that they unconsciously listen to secular music. In fact, they do it deliberately.

According to the bible, sin is sin regardless of the gravity of the sin.

Maybe you should bring to my notice the portion of the bible that categorises sin. In the long run, you would still enter hell even though you watched only some secular movies.



Huh?



Don't want to go into this although it's flawed.



Nope. On the contrary, the only difference between christians and others is that, while non-christians strive to not fault laws of the country because they are well aware of the penalty it attracts, christians on the other hand, give in to sin because they are covered by the grace of confession. Sharp difference there.

My guy you argue blindly. May God give you understanding.
Ebenezer Obey is a secular musician and Olamide is.
do you want to tell me Obey sings with vulgar language like Olamid. Compare what Obey sings and what Olamide sings and come and tell listening to Obeys type of song is sinful.
Why must you read Biology books etc or dont you know they are not spiritual books.

You should have rejected all those books and face reading the Bible alone while in school because you want to be spiritual.

I'm telling you that some secular music are not bad for a Christian. Likewise some secular movies and you are saying sin is sin. By what standard are they Evil.
If not for the world that has turned into something else.
In the 70s and 80s musicians only sang about love and life experiences unlike these days you ld hear .

Turn your backside, I love your pussy, take my banana etc.
Vulgar words even being aired on the radio and TVs .

Pidgin2:
I don't care about how many days were dedicated to satan or Lucifer aka sun god. We as Christians cannot respect such days. We will declare them Christian festival days and celebrate our own God. No one stops pagans and atheists from doing the same thing but since our own God is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, we will always over shadow you all.

At least you acknowledged that your "God" is not the only King, but the King of Kings, the Primus Inter pares.

NinjaX:
How come Christians are watching secular movies, listening and dancing to worldly music?

How come they are wearing skimpy clothes?

Lastly, how many atheists have you seen celebrating christmas?

I do, I see nothing wrong in giving and receiving gifts

Pidgin2:
Hello? Christmas is a day of celebration, we have chosen this day to celebrate the birth of Christ. You don't understand things, God will not send you to hell for celebrating His son. He would rather you celebrate his son than celebrate any Idol.

Human wisdom! What bearing or what is the importance of Christmas in God's agenda

In case you've forgotten, let me remind you: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD" (Isaiah 55:.

Understand! It is not in your place to know what is right or what true worship entails. God (whom you claimed to worship) is the boss! He's the One to make laws and also command obedience to it. Understand that it is either according to God's dictate or in vain!

davtosh:
Guy I guess you a JW

You guess wrongly.

Its Christmas, Love is in the air you don't expect atheist to hold there breath.

Pidgin2:
Lol we are the chosen race, a royal priesthood, whatever we decree on this earth will be accepted in heaven. Heaven has accepted December 25th as a day chosen to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. We shall take over any celebration and any day we chose. Our God created the world and he established the heavens and the earth. If the sun god was strong enough why were Christians able to squash him and his worshippers so easily? Atheists you are next

So you now decree the day you worship your God not the day he decreed, right?

Which "God" created the world? What is his name? Almighty God? That's a title.

Think well, and don't say Jesus for he is a Demigod, a child fathered by a God with a woman.