₦airaland Forum

mapet:
Wrong. This submission stands logic on its head

So why is it hard to get a prepaid meter in Nigeria? If the disco's were to gain from metering customers, why are they not in a rush to do that?

agabusta:
I just dont understand. Some people are alleging that it is because they will still make their money from estimated bills. And they in turn will not pay for the rejected power.

Perfect analyses!

progress69:
[s]I really don't understand all these dumb excuses made by people on behalf of incompetent clowns simply because a reversal or whatever will be a slap to an administration they all supported.
I mean do u invest in business u have not done a feasibility study about? One of them is claiming accumulated debts over the years, please were they alseep when they signed to become a disco? Enough of this foolish, silly excuses by Discos and their bogus supporters(for obvious reasons). The main aim of privatisation is to improve power, not for them to reject power. PHCN was working better with lower tarrifs. The ony difference i have seen is some phantom packaging by the discos. I cal a spade a spade nor a shovel![/s]

You are just typing nonsense. You aren't even ashamed that you are one of those parasites sabotaging the system with free energy consumption.

When you start paying your bills as a man we can now talk on an equal footing.

rhames:

Fashola does not control any thing under the power aspect of his ministry

Is NERC not under ministry of power??

agabusta:
The power problem in this country is multifaceted. It needs iron hand. Fashola seems inundated and too soft with these discos.

Mynd44, OAM4J, Lalasticlala please come and see this interesting report. Discos are turning down power supply despite that people are eagerly and prayerfully waiting to receive such electricity.

Something is definitely wrong somewhere with the power administration and management in this country.

Goodluck Ebele Jonathan and PDP clearly laid this foundation which I accept even if no wailer is laying claims to it.

They cluelessly or rather "cluefully" sold our common heritage to their ineffectual cronies in the name of privatisation.

But I have been enjoying 3 days uninterrupted power supply in my neighborhood.I want to believe it's same in most places in Lagos.

The discos want to generate. that's the only way we can get stable power. why should that useless tcn generate solely. let tcm also distribute . There had to be competition if not eko disco n Co will be monopolies

mapet:
....and who bears the cost/margin of the "robust technology" at the end of the day?

Leave Nigerians and their Hypocrisy

Rad1cal:
You are just typing nonsense. You aren't even ashamed that you are one of those parasites sabotaging the system with free energy consumption.

When you start paying your bills as a man we can now talk on an equal footing.

See me see wahala o. Na me beg MOD to pay electrical bills? Let me make u more bitter cos u seem extremely bitter. I live in a free house sef and even free water. If u are pained by this, leave the freedom of your cave, or leave mummy and daddy's hut and come and do my kind of job. So paying electricity bills makes u a man? See as normal human being dey reason. I don't even understand this extreme bitterness, is your benefactor a disco staff? U better go and look for your level. Clown!

mapet:
....and who bears the cost/margin of the "robust technology" at the end of the day?

That should be part of their operating costs

progress69:
See me see wahala o. Na me beg MOD to pay electrical bills? Let me make u more bitter cos u seem extremely bitter. I live in a free house sef and even free water. If u are pained by this, leave the freedom of your cave, or leave mummy and daddy's hut and come and do my kind of job. So paying electricity bills makes u a man? See as normal human being dey reason. I don't even understand this extreme bitterness, is your benefactor a disco staff? U better go and look for your level. Clown!

What silly job are you doing to warrant you being a shameless parasite leading to the collapse of a budding energy industry. You don't pay for any bills yet you will be the first nuisance to defend this incompetent admin.

You are a total disgrace. You are here chatting nonsense simply because you are spoon fed by the FG.

What a waste.

Rad1cal:
What silly job are you doing to warrant you being a shameless parasite leading to the collapse of a budding energy industry. You don't pay for any bills yet you will be the first nuisance to defend this incompetent admin.

You are a total disgrace. You are here chatting nonsense simply because you are spoon fed by the FG.

What a waste.

Oga spare us all the rants. Leave the comfort of the kind of job u are doing an come and do mine. If not for us, "Man" like u will probably be taking cover in a thick forest. or a bush. Everywhere in the world, people that do my kind of job are taken care of by the government, cos without us, there is no government. U can G n D of bitterness, no one gives a hoot.

progress69:
Oga spare us all the rants. Leave the comfort of the kind of job u are doing an come and do mine. If not for us, "Man" like u will probably be taking cover in a thick forest. or a bush. Everywhere in the world, people that do my kind of job are taken care of by the government, cos without us, there is no government. U can G n D of bitterness, no one gives a hoot.

Silly bragging. Na your likes dey take cover if them hear knockout talkless of gun. The govt. taken care of you is a waste cos people like you are mostly useless when it comes to armed confrontation.

Rad1cal:
Silly bragging. Na your likes dey take cover if them hear knockout talkless of gun. The govt. taken care of you is a waste cos people like you are mostly useless when it comes to armed confrontation.

Hahahahahaha. Pained soul. Offcourse, we are humans, we take cover first to think if reasonable next line of action. The "man" u claim to be will probably have wer his dirty boxers with hot pee or messed it up with hot poo..... hahahahahaha hahahaha. Whateve u say does not stop MOD from being responsible for my electrical bills.

progress69:
Hahahahahaha. Pained soul. Offcourse, we are humans, we take cover first to think if reasonable next line of action. The "man" u claim to be will probably have wer his dirty boxers with hot pee or messed it up with hot poo..... hahahahahaha hahahaha. Whateve u say does not stop MOD from being responsible for my electrical bills.

You talk like a sissy bro. Rugged bulls don't say much, even school packages sef brutal pass wetin una dey see. You can't be feasting on tax payers money then have the effrontery to chastise them when they feel let down by the govt.

Rad1cal:
You talk like a sissy bro. Rugged bulls don't say much, even school packages sef brutal pass wetin una dey see. You can't be feasting on tax payers money then have the effrontery to chastise them when they feel let down by the govt.

Hahahahahahaha. Comparing 3 fms of baming in some local bush or even water bambam when u spend money to where you spend months away from the world. Clowns full Nairaland. The welcome party as a rookie is even enough to let u want to flee not to talk of months of misery. You my friend is a kid. U pay for the protection of your life with your useless chicken change u call tax. You should be grateful parasites are making u wake and sleep in peace. Hahahahahahaha. How does discos rejecting power means letting down by the government. The useless discos wanted increment and they got it. What is all these excuses for their crass incompetence. They were brought in to make power better not to act as saboteurs. Be wise my friend.

progress69:
Hahahahahahaha. Comparing 3 fms of baming in some local bush or even water bambam when u spend money to where you spend months away from the world. Clowns full Nairaland. The welcome party as a rookie is even enough to let u want to flee not to talk of months of misery. You my friend is a kid. U pay for the protection of your life with your useless chicken change u call tax. You should be grateful parasites are making u wake and sleep in peace. Hahahahahahaha. How does discos rejecting power means letting down by the government. The useless discos wanted increment and they got it. What is all these excuses for their crass incompetence. They were brought in to make power better not to act as saboteurs. Be wise my friend.

You know nothing boy so kindly shut up. You are just a lousy noise maker whose only tendency is to harass docile civilians .

The discos are owed huge amounts, thanks to parasites like you gaining from such sabotage.

The discos are also running at a huge loss from entitled folks like you who feel they shouldn't be paying for their energy needs citing silly reasons just like you do.

The discos are saying, No, we won't intentionally run into debt just to satisfy parasites like you.

An average Nigerian provides her own security so am wondering what a parasite like you is seeking to justify.

You practically pay about N10 naira per month on electricity, while staying in a free quarters but yet will seek to denigrate Nigerians seeking to hold their leaders accountable over their tax used in taking care of your needs without much in return.

Rad1cal:
You know nothing boy so kindly shut up. You are just a lousy noise maker whose only tendency is to harass docile civilians .

The discos are owed huge amounts, thanks to parasites like you gaining from such sabotage.

The discos are also running at a huge loss from entitled folks like you who feel they shouldn't be paying for their energy needs citing silly reasons just like you do.

The discos are saying, No, we won't intentionally run into debt just to satisfy parasites like you.

An average Nigerian provides her own security so am wondering what a parasite like you is seeking to justify.
Y[b]
ou practically pay about N10 naira per month on electricity, while staying in a free quarters but yet will seek to denigrate Nigerians seeking to hold their leaders accountable over their tax used in taking care of your needs without much in return.[/b]

Oga disco auditor. Keep Ranting. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Ordinary police threatens to go on strike? Everybody don dey shake. Oga security, u be pikin, u do not know anything.

progress69:
Oga disco auditor. Keep Ranting. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Ordinary police threatens to go on strike? Everybody don dey shake. Oga security, u be pikin, u do not know anything.

Police go strike people shake. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !! You be authentic clown.

Fake men who feel wearing a Military uniform confers on them super powers. Nonsense !!.

Rad1cal:
Police go strike people shake. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !! You be authentic clown.

Fake men who feel wearing a Military uniform confers on them super powers. Nonsense !!.

Lol. When i call u a kid, i know what i am Saying.

Clowns Everywhere

agabusta:
The power problem in this country is multifaceted. It needs iron hand. Fashola seems inundated and too soft with these discos.

Mynd44, OAM4J, Lalasticlala please come and see this interesting report. Discos are turning down power supply despite that people are eagerly and prayerfully waiting to receive such electricity.

Something is definitely wrong somewhere with the power administration and management in this country.

Don't mind them. Who was that clown that was arguing for an increase in electricity rates that consumers pay, saying it was the only way Discos could provide power?

preacherz:
90% of prepaid meter users in the Country bypassed their meter

Now ask your self if you are a part of this 90% before making hypocritical comments

Udo

Big fat lie!! These Discos keeping seeking excuses to cover up their lapses. When was this survey done? And where are the facts? So why not simply disconnect them, if you discover that they have by-passed their meters? Or even get them arrested and prosecuted?

Abujaexpress:
If consumers bypass prepaid meter, it is the Discos's fault. What stopped them from deploying a more robust technology to check prepaid meter bypassing?

Thank you, jare! You don talk am well! Let the Discos seek for an answer to this question!

agabusta:
You are right on that. Some of them are already following this suggestion of yours. The prepaid metre installed in my house has a transmitter that transmit all activities on it directly to Eko Electricity Distribution company. Even if the cover is opened, a light comes up on its indoor unit and this is also transmitted to their office. They also installed the device high up an electricity pole. and covered the input and output cables to some extent. And stated that any tampering to the input and output cables will be transmitted to their office. I was even surprised to see that the meter uses a sim card.

This coupled with frequent inspections will reduce electricity theft to some extent. Unless there is sabotage on the part of their employees

Thank you, o jare! You have just answered the question on the kind of 'robust technology' that can be deployed to check electricity theft. This method may not be perfect, but it is a start. If the same devices or practice, can be deployed across board by other Discos to deter electricity thieves, am sure there would be some level of improvement.

PentiumPro:
The reason is simple.
Any Disco that cannot reasonably and effectively metered the electricity it distributes will not be able to pay the Gencos and will just keep accumulating debt. The issue is worsened now with the fact that 1, estimated billing is becoming difficult to collect, 2, it's almost now illegal to disconnect owning customers.
The ultimate solution is to METERED ALL ELECTRICITY CONSUMERS.. Anything outside that will not work

You forgot to add that even when consumers pay for pre-paid meters, it takes them months to get it. And when those pre-paid meters get faulty, the Discos turn a blind eye and deaf ears to pleas made by consumers, who beg them to fix it.

ayobase:
Outrageous bills most times to augment what's lost as a result of atc&c loss - mostly from consumers, Nigerians.

There is never a smoke without a fire.

You have a neighbour who uses over N10,000 worth of electricity per month, but pays a token of N2,000 due to bypassing. Where do you think the 8k dey?

Report that your neighbour, and the corrupt "NEPA" man who helped with the connection.

So is it right to punish the innocent, for the sins of the guilty? The Discos do not realise that this method breeds resentment in the hearts and minds of those who receive such outrageous bills, especially when it is so easy to tell that the power supply they have received in a particular month is NOT commensurate with the bills, they have been given. So of course, they might decide not to pay or to challenge such bills.

This is how we were given a bill of almost 65,000 naira in my family house on the mainland once, and I went to Eko Disco office to lodge a complaint. Before then, the average monthly bill was like 7k - 8k. And there was nobody living in the building except a security guard/caretaker. The Marketing Manager admitted clearly that they made an error in their calculation of the estimated bill, but told me flatly there was nothing they could do about it. I should just pay the bill.

Well since I am not a politician or a Naira-bet pools agent with excess cash, I declined. They disconnected power from the house for over 8 months, and I ignored them. There was no one living there anyway, just a caretaker.

We are still dragging the matter till today and exchanging plenty grammer, as we speak.

ernieboy:
who owes them huge amount? in my location l don't get light for more than 3 hours in a day and some day nothing, but they still bring exorbitant bills and ask us to pay for power we never used. that's daylight robbery.

The bulk of the bills are actually owed by govt agencies, parastatals, ministries, barracks etc. And those are the consumers the Discos should focus attention on, in order to retrieve their money. Residential customers do not owe the Discos as much as govt agencies do.

mapet:
....and who bears the cost/margin of the "robust technology" at the end of the day?

What a funny question! The Disco, of course. You got to spend money, in order to make money..not so? And most companies who seek to improve their business operations, usually invest in research & development in order to perform better, meet the needs of their customers more efficiently, or simply beat the competition, at their own game. It is a fact of business.

femimighty:
But I have been enjoying 3 days uninterrupted power supply in my neighborhood.I want to believe it's same in most places in Lagos.

If you believe that, you would be totally wrong!! From Ajah to Okokomaiko, or from Ikorodu to Abule-Egba, or from Badagry to Epe, or from Ajegunle to Igando, how many people can tell you they have enjoyed uninterrupted power supply for 3 days in a row?

Rejecting power is a form of corruption because the discos find a way to make the consumers pay for what they (discos) haven't earned through estimated bills. This is where government must come in and sanction erring discos. I believe with prepaid digital meters this corruption can be controlled.

macaranta:
Not very practical.. Given the number and customer type discos work with.Good luck dragging an ex militant that just bypassed his meter to court or a military officer who's high ranking... Or a native doctor... Or a minister.. The list goes on and on.

What do we do then?

Those that are trying to abide by the laws are frustrated with estimated billings or delayed installment of prepaid metres. It's sickening.

laudate:
So is it right to punish the innocent, for the sins of the guilty? The Discos do not realise that this method breeds resentment in the hearts and minds of those who receive such outrageous bills, especially when it is so easy to tell that the power supply they have received in a particular month is NOT commensurate with the bills, they have been given. So of course, they might decide not to pay or to challenge such bills.

This is how we were given a bill of almost 65,000 naira in my family house on the mainland once, and I went to Eko Disco office to lodge a complaint. Before then, the average monthly bill was like 7k - 8k. And there was nobody living in the building except a security guard/caretaker. The Marketing Manager admitted clearly that they made an error in their calculation of the estimated bill, but told me flatly there was nothing they could do about it. I should just pay the bill.

Well since I am not a politician or a Naira-bet pools agent with excess cash, I declined. They disconnected power from the house for over 8 months, and I ignored them. There was no one living there anyway, just a caretaker.

We are still dragging the matter till today and exchanging plenty grammer, as we speak.

I hate when they do this.

Oga just pay the bill na, there's nothing we can do



So they expect people to just fork out money for something they didn't get?

odogwubiafra:
Is either you are for them, or you work with them. All the DISCOS know exactly what they are doing. In a situation where you give a consumer assumed bill when he/she has a metre is totally unacceptable.

When the different DISCOs started issuing out prepaid metres through their marketers and the field workers, both the marketers and the field workers noticed that with time, there will be no need for the plenty field workers and marketers. They introduced some consumers on how to by-pass the metres, so that at anytime, there will still be need for physical presence of fieldworkers for either fault resolution or monitoring.

Until they give one what one has consumed according to the metre reading, Nigerians will always by-pass.

Report those marketers.

Make a video of them as evidence to back up your claim.

Many have been dismissed, and some imprisoned, but we need Nigerians to support the Discos to flush out corruption.

The company bills based on what marketers' meter readings. Some marketers wouldn't go on field work to take readings, but making estimated readings and you will definitely get estimated billings.

What to do;

1. Always monitor what you consume monthly with screenshots.

2. Have your copies of paid bills.

3. Know the marketer responsible for your cluster.

4. When there is any discrepancy, write the head Disco office in your area, and copy the Area Manager, Senior Manager (Distribution), Head Marketer and OMS.

With your evidence, you can move mountain when you are being disconnected for not paying for what you never consumed.

laudate:
So is it right to punish the innocent, for the sins of the guilty? The Discos do not realise that this method breeds resentment in the hearts and minds of those who receive such outrageous bills, especially when it is so easy to tell that the power supply they have received in a particular month is NOT commensurate with the bills, they have been given. So of course, they might decide not to pay or to challenge such bills.

This is how we were given a bill of almost 65,000 naira in my family house on the mainland once, and I went to Eko Disco office to lodge a complaint. Before then, the average monthly bill was like 7k - 8k. And there was nobody living in the building except a security guard/caretaker. The Marketing Manager admitted clearly that they made an error in their calculation of the estimated bill, but told me flatly there was nothing they could do about it. I should just pay the bill.

Well since I am not a politician or a Naira-bet pools agent with excess cash, I declined. They disconnected power from the house for over 8 months, and I ignored them. There was no one living there anyway, just a caretaker.

We are still dragging the matter till today and exchanging plenty grammer, as we speak.

Discos are having major challenge with the marketers though.

Is your house metered?

I hope you were able to record what the Marketing Manager said. He admitted they made a mistake, and still expects you to pay up.

He must have been conniving with his field marketers to rip people off.

Ask your security guard if the marketers do come around to take meter readings monthly.