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Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by jesse515: 9:30am On Jan 05, 2017
This isn't a case of simply yes or no, freeze just earned my respect, he has given his opinion on d issue n it's left for d boy to take or leave...

Whilst freeze often sounds grumpy, I tink d guy has sumtin upstairs...
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by admax(m): 9:32am On Jan 05, 2017
I know bros, that's why I began by saying the bible didnt explicitly mentioned about masturbation.

Slimzjoe:
Guy chill...Read the Bible Properly again with a clear mind...that passage didn't say Onan self-services. As a matter of fact, he was banging his dead brother's wife >: grin . He was Killed because he wickedly refused to ejaculate into the woman cos he knew the children born won't be his
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by Nobody: 9:33am On Jan 05, 2017
Mustack:
am happy to be a Muslim...
Islam have address this issue accordingly.
Pls what did Islam say about the issue?
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by safarigirl(f): 9:37am On Jan 05, 2017
admax:
You are very foolish for attacking my opinion which I have a right to. Did I stop you from airing your own opinion on the matter? All this Nairaland Kids. angry
your utterances are no different from that of a kid, so act like an adult first before calling anyone a 'kid'

An adult can make a decision without meeting one pastor somewhere
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by azpekuliar: 9:47am On Jan 05, 2017
Freeze's response reminds of Lagbaja's classic song "Simple yes or no"
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by Truefaith: 9:52am On Jan 05, 2017
The young man is asking the wrong man the right question. Masturbation is sin. But God has clear solutions for it and other sins through Jesus Christ. You will get detailed answers in www.thetruechristianfaith.com for issues such as this.
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by JideAmuGiaka: 9:52am On Jan 05, 2017
Mbkite:
you are still complicating issues. For instance mouth odour is bad, does it make it a sin?
oya, answer yes or no now. Is masturbation a sin?
MASTURBATION IS EVIL, BAD, SINFUL, UNRIGHTEOUS.
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by KunleSteel: 9:55am On Jan 05, 2017
Freeze, obviously, like so many cannot categorically say if masturbation is a sin or not... But he did do well to give his "for" and "against", side to it. The young man seems intelligent enough to decide.

My two cents: If morality/righteousness is your priority, be on the safe side.
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by Snaaz(m): 9:55am On Jan 05, 2017
admax:
The young man should have gone to see his Pastor to seek a biblical answer and not asking that loosed cannon called freeze.

The bible didn't explicitly mentioned Masturbation but it falls under sexual immorality which God abhors.

In Genesis 38: 8-10, Onan do spill semen on the ground in God killed him. God want us to control our sexual urges, that's why you should get married if you can't.
Onan was not killed for spilling fluid on the ground. He was killed for disobeying God. God asked him to impregnate his brother's wife. Nigga wanted to enjoy the babe but did not want to impregnate her hence invented the iconic withdrawal method. There is nothing on masturbation in the bible. There can onlu be deductions which can still be contested any day.
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by engrMikemd(m): 9:58am On Jan 05, 2017
momentum85:
Simple question and u're going round and round, now u've ended up confusing the guy the more. OAP freeze, is masturbation a sin or not?
I wonder o
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by engrMikemd(m): 10:00am On Jan 05, 2017
FREEZE or whatever should have convinced the boy instead of confusing him
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by LordKushmann(m): 10:02am On Jan 05, 2017
admax:
The young man should have gone to see his Pastor to seek a biblical answer and not asking that loosed cannon called freeze.

The bible didn't explicitly mentioned Masturbation but it falls under sexual immorality which God abhors.

In Genesis 38: 8-10, Onan do spill semen on the ground in God killed him. God want us to control our sexual urges, that's why you should get married if you can't.
so God has killed all the boys wanking na? Una no go just get sense.
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by holluphemydavid(m): 10:05am On Jan 05, 2017
am here to read comments,freeze was wise enough to be careful in answering the kind of question like dis
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by kdfemi(m): 10:16am On Jan 05, 2017
momentum85:
Simple question and u're going round and round, now u've ended up confusing the guy the more. OAP freeze, is masturbation a sin or not?
I think he answered the best way possible, it is a complicated question that can't just be answered with a single reply.
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by jpmoriarti(m): 10:17am On Jan 05, 2017
I like the response by freeze. Quite evasive but these things are not as clear as some other stuffs. As for me, the bad thing about masturbation is its addictive nature. But if you apply moderation, you should be fine.
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by Oyecute(m): 10:19am On Jan 05, 2017
Mustack:
am happy to be a Muslim...
Islam have address this issue accordingly.
can u be explicit with wat islam said?
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by Oyecute(m): 10:22am On Jan 05, 2017
Snaaz:
Onan was not killed for spilling fluid on the ground. He was killed for disobeying God. God asked him to impregnate his brother's wife. Nigga wanted to enjoy the babe but did not want to impregnate her hence invented the iconic withdrawal method. There is nothing on masturbation in the bible. There can onlu be deductions which can still be contested any day.
God bless your brain...... People just keep creating problems that are non-existent for themself. make God just give us
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by bigtt76(f): 10:22am On Jan 05, 2017
How? Please enlighten us undecided

Mustack:
am happy to be a Muslim...
Islam have address this issue accordingly.
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by hymanflex(m): 10:22am On Jan 05, 2017
momentum85:
Simple question and u're going round and round, now u've ended up confusing the guy the more. OAP freeze, is masturbation a sin or not?
I tell you Bros, even me sef confuse.
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by oscaruzie(m): 10:28am On Jan 05, 2017
Mustack:
am happy to be a Muslim...
Islam have address this issue accordingly.
daz y u now goan quote evritin abi?
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by scachy(m): 10:29am On Jan 05, 2017
momentum85:
Simple question and u're going round and round, now u've ended up confusing the guy the more. OAP freeze, is masturbation a sin or not?
Hahahahahah grin grin grin
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by holythug(m): 10:30am On Jan 05, 2017
make this pipu no allow vaseline and other creams cost for market abeg.....harmattan dey ooooo

Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by smksean(m): 10:32am On Jan 05, 2017
freshkik:
I think that he answered it the best and honest way he could, and that i have seen tho…. There are some delicate questions in this world, that a "yes" or "no" answer can't be given, but the answer will enlighten you more on choice you make, because the answer is a personal decision to everyone.....the old me for just claim straight-up that it's totally bad and start to condemn, but growing up, ppl's "real life" experiences has made me more enlightened n open minded tho.....
Una wey dey claim he shld give a straight yes or no answer, lemme ask u guys , if u were a public figure, n ppl seek "real life" advice from u, pls what ll be ur answer to some1, like the widow with 6kidshuh? yes or No"huh Lol,
If he has said yes...next thing u see is nigeria reacts as freeze encourage everyone to masturbate
If he says no, ahhh
Trust 9ja to dip up stories like the widowed woman with the 6 kids, n more complicated n complex ones,
Some blogs can even go far as saying freeze encourage promiscuity even with mothers lol uno hw our ppl they.... So, to me o, he gave the best answer, the 2nd best would hv been to keep mute.
well said
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by nairalandbuzz(m): 10:33am On Jan 05, 2017
Dr Ed. Murphy:

Autosexuality

Uncleanness or impurity covers not only the practice of homosexuality, but also that of self-stimulation, otherwise known as self-service. Webster defines self-service as the “stimulation of the Core organs to heavenly feeling, achieved by manual or other bodily contact exclusive of intimate intercourse.” There would probably be general acceptance among physicians and counselors on this or a similar definition of self-service. The essence of the practice then would be bringing about heavenly feeling by any means other than intimate intercourse.

Toward a Useful Definition
I have difficulty with this broad definition, however. That is why I prefer the narrower term “intimate self-stimulation.” This definition emphasizes self-gratification, a form of narcissism. It is a totally self-centered intimate activity through self-stimulation to the point of heavenly feeling. I also like Norman L. Geisler’s word for this practice. He calls it “autosexuality.” Webster’s definition would mean that almost all married couples practice self-service at different times in their married life when full intimate intercourse is not possible or advisable for one of the marriage partners for various reasons. It would also mean that some married couples regularly practice self-service, particularly women who are not able to reach heavenly feeling without manual stimulation by their mate. Often when this situation exists there is enough personal trauma without adding to it the idea that self-service is being engaged in.

Psychologist Earl D. Wilson recognizes this reality in his excellent chapter on self-service in his helpful book intimate Sanity. Wilson writes, “self-service is necessary for some couples in order to achieve maximum intimate adjustment.” When I counsel married couples who face this type of personal problem I never use the word self-service to refer to their practice. I prefer the term “manual stimulation.” Even though we live in an era of so-called intimate liberation, among sensitive Christians there is still shame connected with the word “self-service.” To heap that shame on an already troubled woman or man is unfair and unwise.

My definition of self-service then would be the practice of self-stimulation to the point of heavenly feeling by whatever means. The focus is on self-stimulation. It is a form of self-sex involving a preoccupation with one’s own intimate organs and heavenly feeling. Most Christian authors I have read hold to a somewhat more flexible view of autosexuality than I do. However, they recognize many of its inherent dangers.

The Bible’s Silence
The Bible says absolutely nothing about this practice. Psychologist Earl Wilson correctly observes: self-service, like many other topics of great personal and social concern, is neither condemned nor condoned in Scripture. In fact, I have not been able to find any direct scriptural statements about self-service. Christians have not always been honest about this fact and have tried to give the impression that their opinions on the subject were fortified with biblical imperatives. Such is not the case.

He then cites the traditional Roman Catholic interpretation of Genesis 38:8–10. Alcorn says it was from this text that self-service became “labeled onanism after the supposed self-service by a man named Onan,” but a study of this passage reveals no autosexuality at all. Onan had intimate intercourse with the woman, but just as he reached the point of heavenly feeling “he wasted his seed on the ground, in order not to give offspring to his brother” (v. 9). Alcorn continues saying, “The issue was Onan’s disobedience in refusing to raise up children for his deceased brother, which he was bound by law and family loyalty to do.”

An Appeal to Scriptural Principles
In cases like this where the Bible is silent, we must be guided by broad Scriptural principles concerning intimate practices. Sexuality is a gift of God. It is not only necessary for procreation, but is the one act that in the most meaningful manner makes the man and woman “one flesh.” Intercourse is a kind of marriage, Geisler says:

If it is outside a life-long commitment of love then it is a “bad marriage.” In fact, it is a sin the Bible calls fornication (cf. Gal. 5:19; 1 Cor. 6:18). The first reference to marriage declares that man and woman become “one flesh” (Gen. 2:24), implying that marriage occurs when two bodies are joined. . . . Intercourse initiates a “marriage.” If it is not engaged in with a life-long commitment of love, then it was an evil union, an act of fornication.

Geisler considers autosexuality to be generally wrong, and self-service to be sinful “(1) when its only motive is sheer biological pleasure, (2) when it is allowed to become a compulsive habit, and/or (3) when the habit results from inferior feelings and causes guilt feelings.” Geisler next makes an important statement, “self-service is sinful when it is performed in connection with pornographic images, for as Jesus said, lust is a matter of the interests of the heart” (Matt. 5:28).

Finally Geisler writes that autosexuality
can be right if it is used as a limited, temporary program of self-control to avoid intimate sin before marriage. If one is fully committed to leading a pure life until marriage, it may be permissible on occasion to use autosexual stimulation to relieve one’s tension. As long as it does not become a habit nor a means of gratifying one’s lust, self-service is not necessarily immoral. In fact, when the motive is not lust but self-control, self-service can be a moral act (cf. 1 Cor. 7:5; 9:25). . . . self-service used in moderation without lust for the purpose of retaining one’s purity is not immoral.

Problems of Autosexuality
I am happy with Geisler’s first statements about the three ways that autosexuality is wrong. I have trouble with his (and other writers’) permissiveness of autosexuality to release intimate lust. First, is autosexuality to become a substitute husband or wife? As any happily married person knows, once you enter into a life of deep intimate fulfillment with your beloved, it is even more difficult to suddenly cut it off because of sickness, forced separation, and death.

Second, is autosexuality the only way to avoid lust? Are there not other ways much more in harmony with Scripture with no danger of becoming habit forming as is true with self-service? Earl Wilson and Randy Alcorn, while generally agreeing with Geisler, make some important observations which give balance to our subject. Wilson argues for the biblical emphasis on self-control by saying that if autosexuality was the road to take, why did not the apostle Paul say so in his teachings on intimate self-control in 1 Corinthians 7:8–9? Why did he not say if one cannot control his intimate drive let him self-service? That is what many writers seem to be saying. Wilson says:

One answer seems quite obvious. self-service is not a means of self-control. It is often a lack of self-control. intimate fantasy and self-service allow a person to engage in mental sex with numerous people. This does not seem compatible with Paul’s exhortation to have self-control which we read about earlier in 1 Corinthians 6:12–13. . . . We kid ourselves when we say we can’t live without self-service. That very statement borders on obsession. We need to face the fact that we are a pleasure-loving people and that self-service is one way we choose to worship pleasure rather than God.

Wilson continues saying that the second major problem with autosexuality is its depersonalization and quotes the title of John White’s outstanding chapter on autosexuality, “Sex on a Desert Island.” White’s entire argument against autosexuality as a legitimate intimate lifestyle is that sex is given by God to counteract human loneliness (“It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make a helper suitable for him,” Gen. 2:18). Autosexuality, however, produces further loneliness. That which was made to bring a man and woman together for life is abused to produce the worst kind of loneliness and isolation.

Your intimate longings are associated with a deeper need—that someone should . . . bring your isolation to an end. . . . self-service is to be alone on an island. It frustrates the very instinct it gratifies. Alcorn agrees with the general line of thought developed by Wilson and White. He concludes his chapter on autosexuality with two important items.

One, “self-service seems to be a natural part of adolescent self-discovery, particularly among boys.” He warns Christian parents not to be upset if they catch their adolescent children self-servicing. Nor should they threaten their children that self-service will lead to insanity or some kind of physical or later emotional maladjustment.

Two, persons should not allow autosexuality to become “the focus of their life. The guilt, shame and self-hatred as well as anger against God for making intimate stimulation such a powerful force in human life can cripple a believer’s life,” he says. If we have been guilty of this sin, it is forgivable. If we are in bondage to habitual autosexuality there is a way out. As all these author-counselors say, as one has chosen to self-service, he can choose to stop self-servicing. If the practice is obsessive and longstanding it may mean real spiritual warfare to stop, but in Christ we can stop. Alcorn, Wilson, and White suggest simple steps we can take to gain victory over this potentially obsessive habit.

Seven Reasons To Resist Autosexuality
I have other reasons why I take a firm stance against autosexuality. I do not accept it as “God’s relief value for built-up intimate drive,” a common expression among Christian leaders with whom I have discussed this issue.

First, it is not necessary. I have as strong a intimate interest as any man, but I do not engage in autosexuality. My ministry often has taken me away from my loving wife for months at a time. My intimate intimate relationship with my wife grows deeper, not shallower, with time. After over 40 years of marriage she is as desirable to me as ever, even more so. With maturity comes a deeper love for this marvelous woman that God has given me. I tell her continually that next to God himself, she is God’s greatest gift to me. When I am away from her, even when I am alone and desire her love, I do not engage in autosexuality. I choose not to do so. With this God-given self-control has come wonderful freedom and peace. There is no freedom nor peace in bondage to self-service.

Second, self-service does not decrease intimate tension; it only increases it. When you stop, your intimate tension will be taken care of by itself if you maintain an active life and disciplined physical exercise. Thus one will be tired each night and not need intimate self-stimulation to relax and sleep.

Third, autosexual conduct usually involves intimate sin and lust in the fantasy realm even though it may not be focused on any one person.

Fourth, autosexuality fixates on one’s own intimate organs and intimate desires, the opposite of a shared intimate relationship with one’s mate.

Fifth, it is habit forming. I am not saying that occasional self-stimulation will inevitably become an obsessive habit. Experience proves that is not so. No one, however, ever becomes bound by a habit which did not begin at a given point and continue with more and more frequency. This is the only way autostimulation can ever become a intimate bondage. Thus, the only sure way to avoid the possibility of habit and bondage is never to begin.

Sixth, in almost every form of intimate bondage from promiscuity to homosexuality and Indecency, autosexual stimulation plays a central part. Probably all “sexaholics” are addicted to self-service. To my memory, in every counseling case I have had with men or women who are in intimate bondage, self-service has been involved. Some men and women cannot enjoy a normal satisfying intimate relationship with their mates but continually self-service.

Finally, there can be a definite demonic dimension to uncontrolled self-service. I have cast demons of self-service out of the lives of sexually bound men and women. I am not saying that demons are directly attached to the lives of all those in bondage to autosexual practices, nor am I saying demons are attached to the lives of most persons addicted to such practices. I am saying that they can become attached to the life of anyone in bondage to this unwise intimate practice. Such persons need counseling, but they also need deliverance.

Bondage to self-service is spiritual warfare. The desire may first come from within, warfare with the lusts of the flesh. It can also come directly from without, warfare with a sex-crazed world. Finally, it often comes from above, warfare with intimate demons who tempt us to unwise or illicit intimate activity (1 Cor. 7:5).

A fellow missionary with whom I often travel in ministry was experiencing increased intimate loneliness during his frequent absences from his wife. He had never practiced self-service beyond a few experiences as an adolescent. As he shared his loneliness with two missionary friends, both were amazed that he did not try self-service as a means of temporary relief while away from home. They both said they did. They affirmed it was God’s relief valve for pent-up intimate desires.

My friend began to follow their advice, at first infrequently. Then it became more and more often, especially in the evenings while bathing or alone in bed. While it provided some relief, it actually made him feel very insecure. Mental images of what he was doing would cross his mind at the most inopportune times, often while he was praying and reading Scripture or preaching. He felt that he must stop. He did for a while; then the desire would come upon him stronger than ever.

Eventually he became quite disturbed by his lack of intimate self-control. His habit seemed to increase his intimate desires instead of decreasing them. One night while in bed the desire came upon him with the greatest intensity he had ever known. Suddenly he became aware of an evil presence in the room with him. He was only beginning to learn the demonic dimension of spiritual warfare, but he sensed it was Satan. He remembered James 4:7–8: Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. He began to resubmit his sexuality and intimate organs to God, including his mind, his emotions, and his will. He then began to resist the Devil and his intimate demons, out loud. He took his position as reigning with Christ above all principalities and powers of evil. He claimed his victory through the one who had defeated Satan and his evil spirits on the Cross.

Within a few minutes the evil presence left. The uncontrollable intimate passion was now under control. He then drew near to the Lord in praise, worship, and thanksgiving. The Lord, as He promised, drew near to him (James 4:7–8 ). He did not self-service that night. Though this occurred some twenty years ago he has never masturbated since then. Though he still travels in a worldwide ministry usually without his wife, he has had no problem with self-service or even strong temptations toward self-service since that day. Why risk bondage to intimate self-stimulation when freedom is ours in Christ?


Dr. ed. murphy
The Handbook for spiritual warfare
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by yungpalizawa(m): 10:37am On Jan 05, 2017
admax:
The young man should have gone to see his Pastor to seek a biblical answer and not asking that loosed cannon called freeze.

The bible didn't explicitly mentioned Masturbation but it falls under sexual immorality which God abhors.

In Genesis 38: 8-10, Onan do spill semen on the ground in God killed him. God want us to control our sexual urges, that's why you should get married if you can't.
You cut the passage short. Onan wasn't killed because he spilled semen on the floor, he was killed because he didn't impregnate his brother's wife thereby ending his brother's generation. He was instructed to impregnate her but he deliberately spilled semen on the floor which was considered an act of wickedness.

The full passage is below:

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also.
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by tolexy007(m): 10:38am On Jan 05, 2017
Mustack:
am happy to be a Muslim...
Islam have address this issue accordingly.
and what was the reply? undecided
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by CoolFreeday(m): 10:45am On Jan 05, 2017
immaculatengang:
Freeze is just one kind Aswear. That boy isn't even in the university and you are answering him in this manner as if he asked for an essay? Wtf!!!
no be small essay o. Una too like grammar for naija.
Happy new year
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by CoolFreeday(m): 10:46am On Jan 05, 2017
Pheals:
freeze place every thing on your beliefs?! it is either you realise and avoid cancer or you continue calling it a sin!

but how will Isaac marry a 3yrs old gal ah ah
ah watin?

Happy new year
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by Scholar8200(m):
If Mr Freeze believes maturbation opens a person up to demonic attack (yes it does) then we have our answer.See last paragraph.
Also remember, your body is the temple of Christ, so you must protect it! You won’t want to open it up for different S3xual spirits or for prostate cancer.
Besides, The ages of Isaac and Rebecca there are VERY WRONG! Just read the Biblical account in Genesis 24 and verify if that was a 3 year old. (scholars indeed!). Also, Abraham remarried after Sarah's death. Must we tweak history to justify a current malady?
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by Surfboard(m): 10:51am On Jan 05, 2017
Freeze is a true son of his father...brilliant/intelligent response.
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by slimsoshady(m): 11:05am On Jan 05, 2017
samtee37:
Okay...... Am coming... Pls who have sagem charger
for this era?
Re: Freeze Replies Boy On Masturbation by oglalasioux(m): 11:08am On Jan 05, 2017
This OAP Freeze guy is a super genius.

I didn't expect a cleverer answer.
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