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Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 3:55pm On Jan 06, 2017
Acidosis:
OP,

Christianity is the only reason I've not considered frying your scrotum for dinner.


Remember, back in the days, your forefathers were killing pregnant women and albino for dinner? That's exactly what you would be doing together, but for Christianity.


You owe God your life. Give it to him or continue to spend the rest of your life seeking answers to questions that never exist.

Cheers.
Remember back in the days when your popes and priests were burning women at the stake on the mere allegation that they were witches...
Remember when your church leaders hanged heretics and atheists??
Remember when your church supported slavery??
U don't even have to think that far back, just take notice of the Christian terrorist groups that currently exist or the catholic priests that like molesting young boys...
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:57pm On Jan 06, 2017
That is beside the blessed peace of mind which being in connection with our Lord Jesus Christ gives, and a full measure of the Holy Spirit of GOD which only those who obey GOD can have.
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by hopefulLandlord: 3:58pm On Jan 06, 2017
DoctorAlien:
I can name something that we the followers of Jesus Christ will enjoy, that muslims and atheists can't enjoy.

I can also name something that muslims and atheists will suffer, that the followers of Jesus Christ won't suffer.
I can bet my left nut that "Something" would be POSTHUMOUS
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 4:00pm On Jan 06, 2017
DoctorAlien:
I can name something that we the followers of Jesus Christ will enjoy, that muslims and atheists can't enjoy.

I can also name something that muslims and atheists will suffer, that the followers of Jesus Christ won't suffer.
Aiite, so u can't actually name something u are ENJOYING or NOT SUFFERING right now while alive??...
U can only refer to promises that have not been proven and haven't materialized...
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:02pm On Jan 06, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
I can bet my left nut that "Something" would be POSTHUMOUS
Not necessarily posthumous.
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by hopefulLandlord: 4:05pm On Jan 06, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Not necessarily posthumous.
tell me about something different to that which is observable and cannot be found in any other religion or atheism
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:05pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
Aiite, so u can't actually name something u are ENJOYING or NOT SUFFERING right now while alive??...
U can only refer to promises that have not been proven and haven't materialized...
I, as a person, enjoy a rich knowledge of the interpretations of Prophecy found in the Bible, which has played out and is playing exactly as the Bible foretold it out before our very eyes. That same knowledge prepares me for future events, especially as we are near the end of the world. Something muslims and atheists don't have.

Cc: hopefulLandlord
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 4:08pm On Jan 06, 2017
DoctorAlien:
That is beside the blessed peace of mind which being in connection with our Lord Jesus Christ gives, and a full measure of the Holy Spirit of GOD which only those who obey GOD can have.
U say peace of mind... But I don't lack peace of mind and am sure adherents of other religions are going to claim to have peace of mind too... Do Christians live longer as a result of this peace of mind??
And the Holy- Spirit u speak of... What benefits does he add to the lives of the people who have him, more so, his full measure?
Substantial things like security and welfare are conspicuous by their absence in your comment. Are u impliedly admitting that your god doesn't actually offer these things??
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:13pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
U say peace of mind... But I don't lack peace of mind and am sure adherents of other religions are going to claim to have peace of mind too... Do Christians live longer as a result of this peace of mind??
And the Holy- Spirit u speak of... What benefits does he add to the lives of the people who have him, more so, his full measure?
Substantial things like security and welfare are conspicuous by their absence in your comment. Are u impliedly admitting that your god doesn't actually offer these things??
You certainly lack the peace of mind which Jesus alone can give.

I as a person don't want to live longer than GOD has planned for me in this world where I'm surrounded by sin. I long to be in that holy city and see my Maker face to face.

The Holy Spirit guides me. I'm a testimony. He also explains prophecy to me. Jesus told us that we will have tribulation in this world. But then, we are not afraid because He overcame the world.
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 4:15pm On Jan 06, 2017
DoctorAlien:
I, as a person, enjoy a rich knowledge of the interpretations of Prophecy found in the Bible, which has played out and is playing exactly as the Bible foretold it out before our very eyes. That same knowledge prepares me for future events, especially as we are near the end of the world. Something muslims and atheists don't have.

Cc: hopefulLandlord
Prophecies?? Really?? ... All the major "men of God" have one failed prophecy or the other. Even Jesus himself has his failed prophecies...
The gift of prophecy didn't help Christians prepare better for the recession. If anything, prophecy was a disadvantage because major men of God prophesied that recession will end before the end of last year ..
U are mentioning totally abstract things that can't be measured or valued... Is it really that difficult to point to benefits derived from Christianity... There are clear promises of protection and provision in the bible. Those count for nothing??
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by hopefulLandlord: 4:16pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
U are mentioning totally abstract things that can't be measured or valued... Is it really that difficult to point to benefits derived from Christianity...
This!
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:20pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
Prophecies?? Really?? ... All the major "men of God" have one failed prophecy or the other.
There are prophets who speak when GOD has not spoken. Anyway, have you heard of Ellen White?
Even Jesus himself has his failed prophecies...
Please list them.
The gift of prophecy didn't help Christians prepare better for the recession. If anything, prophecy was a disadvantage because major men of God prophesied that recession will end before the end of last year ..
U are mentioning totally abstract things that can't be measured or valued... Is it really that difficult to point to benefits derived from Christianity... There are clear promises of protection and provision in the bible. Those count for nothing??
When I say prophecy, I mean the prophecy found in the Bible.

Our GOD is able to protect and provide for us. But even if He chooses not to do so, we will still trust Him because we know it's the best for us.
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 4:21pm On Jan 06, 2017
DoctorAlien:
You certainly lack the peace of mind which Jesus alone can give.

I as a person don't want to live longer than GOD has planned for me in this world where I'm surrounded by sin. I long to be in that holy city and see my Maker face to face.

The Holy Spirit guides me. I'm a testimony. He also explains prophecy to me. Jesus told us that we will have tribulation in this world. But then, we are not afraid because He overcame the world.
U say, I lack peace of mind but how do I know your claimed peace of mind is not a total fraud... Muslims also claim peace of mind... It's the go-to response for religious people trying to show the actual value of their religion... But I don't see any evidence of it.
All in all, u have failed to point to anything of note that u enjoy as a Christian, just the usual things everybody claims including atheists...
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by kilo4sure: 4:21pm On Jan 06, 2017
If l begin to list benefits of Christianity to the world thus far, you would argue that evolution in the human race would have brought about such things with or without Christianity, so l see this as a possible waste of my precious time.
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:24pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
U say, I lack peace of mind but how do I know your claimed peace of mind is not a total fraud... Muslims also claim peace of mind... It's the go-to response for religious people trying to show the actual value of their religion... But I don't see any evidence of it.
All in all, u have failed to point to anything of note that u enjoy as a Christian, just the usual things everybody claims including atheists...
So you can now go and rest.
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by hopefulLandlord: 4:24pm On Jan 06, 2017
kilo4sure:
If l begin to list benefits of Christianity to the world thus far, you would argue that evolution in the human race would have brought about such things with or without Christianity, so l see this as a possible waste of my precious time.
hey bro, where have you been?
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by kilo4sure: 4:25pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
Remember back in the days when your popes and priests were burning women at the stake on the mere allegation that they were witches...
Remember when your church leaders hanged heretics and atheists??
Remember when your church supported slavery??
U don't even have to think that far back, just take notice of the Christian terrorist groups that currently exist or the catholic priests that like molesting young boys...
You asked for the benefits of Christianity( if there are any). He answered your question, then you began to list the negative things that you believe also resulted from same Christianity. Is it that you do not understand your own question or you made up your mind before you even asked?
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:28pm On Jan 06, 2017
kilo4sure:
You asked for the benefits of Christianity( if there are any) he answered your question, then you began to list the negative things that you believe also resulted from same Christianity. Is it that you do not understand your question or you made up your mind before you even asked?

Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 4:30pm On Jan 06, 2017
DoctorAlien:
There are prophets who speak when GOD has not spoken. Anyway, have you heard of Ellen White?Please list them.
When I say prophecy, I mean the prophecy found in the Bible.

Our GOD is able to protect and provide for us. But even if He chooses not to do so, we will still trust Him because we know its the best for us.
I've not heard of Ellen White but I've heard of Benny Hinn, T.B Joshua, Pastor Adeboye e.t.c. Each of these people have their fail prophecies...

As regards Jesus failed prophecy...
For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)
Matthew 24: 25-34, Mark 13:26-30, Luke 21: 27-32 all repeat this prophecy so..

So your god can choose not to provide for you and protect you even though it doesn't cost him anything... Meaning, he can allow his child to starve to death or get their heads smashed to pieces while watching on??... Apart from the bizarreness of this declaration, what is the basis for it in the bible
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by kilo4sure: 4:31pm On Jan 06, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
hey bro, where have you been?
Happy new year bro, l've not been chanced.
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 4:32pm On Jan 06, 2017
kilo4sure:
You asked for the benefits of Christianity( if there are any). He answered your question, then you began to list the negative things that you believe also resulted from same Christianity. Is it that you do not understand your own question or you made up your mind before you even asked?
No, he didn't answer my question... He was being obtuse and belligerent... He also implied that Christianity is tolerant and I showed him why Christianity isn't...
Don't be angry because I show someone's arguments for Christianity to be crap
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:33pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
As regards Jesus failed prophecy...
For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)
Matthew 24: 25-34, Mark 13:26-30, Luke 21: 27-32 all repeat this prophecy so..

So your god can choose not to provide for you and protect you even though it doesn't cost him anything... Meaning, he can allow his child to starve to death or get their heads smashed to pieces while watching on??... Apart from the bizarreness of this declaration, what is the basis for it in the bible
Browse google for a clarification of what Jesus said in Matt. 16:27,28.

You remember the 3 Hebrew boys?
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 4:34pm On Jan 06, 2017
kilo4sure:
If l begin to list benefits of Christianity to the world thus far, you would argue that evolution in the human race would have brought about such things with or without Christianity, so l see this as a possible waste of my precious time.
The question is not the benefits of Christianity to the world... It's the benefit of Christianity to you as a person... Take your time and read the Op before responding
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 4:45pm On Jan 06, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Browse google for a clarification of what Jesus said in Matt. 16:27,28.

You remember the 3 Hebrew boys?
Really?? I need google to understand the clear words of Jesus?? Both the actual words and the context show that he was talking about the people he was talking to...

And does the declaration of the three Hebrew boys hold more weight than the many promises of protection all over the bible like in Psalm 91??

Again, the statement of the three Hebrew boys have nothing to do with provision so the question remains why would god allow his children to starve to death despite promising he would provide for them
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by kilo4sure: 4:50pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
The question is not the benefits of Christianity to the world... It's the benefit of Christianity to you as a person... Take your time and read the Op before responding
It's about almost thesame thing, the benefit of Christianity to Christians is that it brought us out of darkness into light. In other words, we escaped the ignorance of our former ways.
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:51pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
Again, the statement of the three Hebrew boys have nothing to do with provision so the question remains why would god allow his children to starve to death despite promising he would provide for them
Which of GOD's children starved to death?
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 4:55pm On Jan 06, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Which of GOD's children starved to death?
Some in Zambia, others in Haiti... Some other African countries. Although to be fair, not only Christians. But if god kept his promises, not one Christian should starve.
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:55pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
Some in Zambia, others in Haiti... Some other African countries. Although to be fair, not only Christians. But if god kept his promises, not one Christian should starve.
Who is a Christian? Who is GOD's child?
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by kilo4sure: 5:04pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
Some in Zambia, others in Haiti... Some other African countries. Although to be fair, not only Christians. But if god kept his promises, not one Christian should starve.
But thesame bible said.. " In the world you would have tribulation but cheer up, l have overcomed the world". So at least Christianity gives those Christians in Haiti hope even in their suffering, with that hope they may overcome the suffering and have courage to turn things around.
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 5:04pm On Jan 06, 2017
kilo4sure:
It's about almost thesame thing, the benefit of Christianity to Christians is that it brought us out of darkness into light. In other words, we escaped the ignorance of our former ways.
Exactly my point... Nothing substantial to point to. Just the same things a Muslim would say
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by randomperson(op): 5:07pm On Jan 06, 2017
kilo4sure:
But thesame bible said in the world you would have tribulation but cheer up, l have overcomed the world. So at least Christianity gives those Christians in Haiti hope even in their suffering, with that hope they may overcome the suffering and have courage to turn things around.
Are u kidding me??... So as long as the bible says Jesus has overcome the world. It's okay if some Christians starve to death??... So Jesus wasn't telling the truth when he said he will provide for them??
Re: For Christians: What Exactly Does Christianity Offer?? by kilo4sure: 5:08pm On Jan 06, 2017
randomperson:
Exactly my point... Nothing substantial to point to. Just the same things a Muslim would say
Are you asking what Christianity offers in comparison to other religions? Or simply what Christianity offers at all? One of us is definitely confused here, ( l hope it's me) or maybe both of us are confused.
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