kenazuu:

Yes! bought my doors( 2 turkey door) from there at a good price though before now.

OK. Thanks.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:


At Ibadan, I believe?

Hajji M.

Yes sir. Agbeni or Ogunpa I believe it's called.

kenazuu:


yes! bought my doors( 2 turkey door) from there at a good price though before now.

The prices are good too and comparable to local ones.

Empiree:
Are you a journalist or trying to be one?. You certainly know how to write epistles . My view is in harmony with both sides actually

Thank you!

I have always loved writing since l was a young boy and l read widely. maybe it s agift but as it is often said, "You cant give what you dont have", ..........the corollary being that "You can only regurgitate as much as you have in you"!

Though, the idea is to communicate effectively with the reader so they understand succinctly, what l am passing across.

I wont sound my own gong so l will just stop here.




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mavverick:
Think it all depends on your pocket. In terms of whether the country will get better or worse, nobody knows however the indication does point to the latter.

Can you still afford to execute the project with the current price of materials ? Can you compromise on some things ?
These are the questions you need to ask yourself.

yeah, problem is...the building is for rent, so am wondering if with the increased cost of build, wch will translate to increased rent, if tenants wud be willing to pay the much higher rent.
it 2units of 2br+1 unit 4br duplex

earthrealm:
so big dilenmna,
hv a plot of land i hv been planning to develop in ph, but the rains last yr made me decide to wait till this ye/dry season.
now this wahala has started..i mean increase in price. really confused on what to do

delay the project and hope things will come down, and commence..believeing that things will get worse.
deep inside me...i feel it will get worse, as oil being our only source of forex
comments/advice needed pls

Bera start now cos today Cement was N2600, 16mm was N4800 in PH, so the earlier you start the better.

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Thank you.

What is your own take on the matter?



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In the first place be aware that this is segcymoore (for no reason I couldn't log in)
In as much as I am well inform especially about the subject matter and that's why I concur with most of ur point and intelligent analysis. By nature, I am less concerns about what is beyond my power.
You see, let me inform u guy.it is high time we change our orientation and psychology of thinking. Trust me.....tough time ahead! because solution seems not yet to be at sight.As it stand..... It is simply survival of the fittest.


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May God help His own......

spyder880:
On the contrary, I think we can discuss economy on this thread when it concerns price of building materials. Maybe we should not mention the name of the president or apportion blames but without discussing economic policies and effects, we can never plan effectively or have a good strategy to survive with our plans to build good quality homes at reasonable prices.

The only thing we need to check is our tone of language and our emotions.

Having said that, I think this government has totally lost control of the economy. Its not in their hands anymore and that is why everything has gone haywire, I will not blame the Nigerian seller for "greed or wickedness" as suggested by some of us here. The sellers are just pawns in the game, and if they fail to raise their costs substantially, they will be wiped off sooner than they think. And the problem will even get worse, as more sellers and labourers get unemployed, armed robbery, pros.titution and criminal activities will rise to an all time high

The dealers in building materials don't manufacture them, they buy from manufacturers,
The manufacturers don't make the raw materials, they import them,
The importers don't print dollars, they buy them,
And when the dollars are scarce, demand and supply law will raise the cost, and this will set off a chain reaction which will ensure that the rise will cascade down to the last man on the ground, me and you, the consumers. Then, finally, the tenants will have to cough out more naira to rent these houses as nobody is a Father Christmas.

I buy building materials in many markets in many states daily, and I see the fear and tension in the faces of these sellers first hand, I see a lot of frustration, regret and trepidation they face. My cement dealer went home by 1 pm yesterday, he has not got delivered with 5 trucks of cement he paid for since 2 weeks ago, and he is not sure of what is happening after so many phone calls. He told me he is afraid of another price hike from the cement cabal.

The government not only hasn't done enough, my fear is that they dont even have the capacity to solve the problem, I feel the economy is now on auto pilot, while the operators are watching and hoping for the best. Its a pity.

My Bross, Political argument always ends in arguments insult and slime statements.trust me. let us restrict it to the Political section,Lions are there.If not people will comment with thier emotion rather than thier rational thinking cap.

erico2k2:

My Bross, Political argument always ends in arguments insult and slime statements.trust me. let us restrict it to the Political section,Lions are there.If not people will comment with thier emotion rather than thier rational thinking cap.

You are correct my brother, let me just stand aside and read comments for now. Thanks.

In that case, there is scope for chopping some things. As you said its rental, just get the basics/important bit right, i.e the substructure and superstructure (Foundation and the rest of the things that are on it to make a house).

I assume you are on ground, there are some places you can make savings.

Rent - Know what the area commands from a rent perspective, there is usually a low/medium/high bar, and also a rent ceiling that is, rent in X area cannot be more than X amount, if your location cannot command the high bar, why would you want to spend so much finishing/designing the house after all, even if he fine pass Adenuga house, the rent cannot still hit the high bar.

Room sizes - The bigger the more expensive, more cement, more tiles, more materials, more for pop etc.

Wood - Buy used good ones (used once) or rent marine if you have access to it, note with marine you will still need wood but just reduced quantity especially 1 by 12.

Theft - Reduce theft to the minimum.

Scope of works - Try to group works together so that it can be done all at once, so when I negotiate with some of my workers I group all the work together instead of separate negotiations, then I pay based on stages/milestones.

Tiles - Choose cheap tiles in less important areas (bathroom wall is an example in my case) and you dont have to tile bathroom/kitchen up to ceiling, but get the parlour/kitchen one right and flashy/bold neutral colours if you can.

Paint - In my case I did mix and match, outside which is my jurisdiction I used highest quality paint to attract interest, inside which is outside my jurisdiction during a tenancy I used cheap paints that did the job and used the colour wheel very well, in places where I needed to be bright I did, in places where I needed to be subtle, I used subtle colours and in the end the feedback was great.

The 4 bed duplex, is that for rent as well. I wouldn't do it in current state of Nigeria, most people dont have more than 2 kids now because of the cost of raising them, in my days education was more or less free nowadays if you have not sent kids to private school, you have not sent them to a school and there is I BETTER PASS MY NEIGHBOUR. Most big properties often have big families and big BUKATA, so they usually pay first year rent but after that you are on your own, they will either tell you that the money has been used for school fees or to build thier own house in Lekki, unless dem carry and get decency.

Increase in price of materials does not usually mean increased rent, because the people renting mostly have not built a house, so they dont know what the price of cement is, and as i said before each area usually has its own low/medium/high rent bar. This is I think what you need to focus on and drive your decision making unless u wan show people that you have hammered.

Caution yourself - Don't let emotions enter, go for quality products but not necessarily the most flashy expensive one. We are all guilty of it, especially if its your first house.

Good luck and all the best.

earthrealm:


yeah, problem is...the building is for rent, so am wondering if with the increased cost of build, wch will translate to increased rent, if tenants wud be willing to pay the much higher rent.
it 2units of 2br+1 unit 4br duplex

They did the first picture..not neat
Client call us to do it right.. Then
We did the other one.. We neat it

Now we get more recommendations

mavverick:
In that case, there is scope for chopping some things. As you said its rental, just get the basics/important bit right, i.e the substructure and superstructure (Foundation and the rest of the things that are on it to make a house).

I assume you are on ground, there are some places you can make savings.


Good luck and all the best.

thanks bro, for the sound analysis, i appreciate it.
yup all 3 apartments are for rent, woji-peter odili axis, thus i believe the 4br duplex would be rentable, good 3br goes for btw 700k and 1m, so intend to put the rent in a sweet spot to attract a 3beroomer to just add small thing and upgrade to 4br duplex .
from this thread and research..hv deduced that the foundation would gulp btw 3m and 4m [old price], dont know with this increment what it would be now.
wanna just do the foundation and come out, then pause and observe the country

No problem.

With the name I think its in the East of which I dont know anything about, my knowledge area is mainly Lagos. For 3 bed to go for 700k - 1m, it means its in a good area considering the cost of building in the East. If you have a detailed quotation, you can get an idea by costing up materials now, then add a markup for labour as well.

earthrealm:


thanks bro, for the sound analysis, i appreciate it.
yup all 3 apartments are for rent, woji-peter odili axis, thus i believe the 4br duplex would be rentable, good 3br goes for btw 700k and 1m, so intend to put the rent in a sweet spot to attract a 3beroomer to just add small thing and upgrade to 4br duplex .
from this thread and research..hv deduced that the foundation would gulp btw 3m and 4m [old price], dont know with this increment what it would be now.
wanna just do the foundation and come out, then pause and observe the country

chuksjuve:


I'm based in ketu Lagos

Thanks

I think the person that needs your service is actually here on Nairaland.

You can send a message to Marylandcakes

twinskenny:
They did the first picture..not neat Client call us to do it right.. Then We did the other one.. We neat it
Now we get more recommendations

Nice job... Weldon, its done as discussed

topsy23:


Nice job... Weldon, its done as discussed

thanks boss

Rubyventures:


Thanks

I think the person that needs your service is actually here on Nairaland.

You can send a message to Marylandcakes

Please send your details to Marylandcakes@gmail.com I need a landscape expert. Thanks.

twinskenny:
They did the first picture..not neat
Client call us to do it right.. Then
We did the other one.. We neat it

Now we get more recommendations

Kenny, when you want to compare two things, make sure they are exactly "Like for Like"!

Though your work appears neater but you did not show us the inside of the two panels, in "their own work" .... in those pictures
But you showed us the inside of your own Panels.
What if the inside of their own Panel was better than yours, how do we know?

In such comparison, it appears you are intentionally giving "undue advantage" to your own work.

The above notwithstanding, if we compare the Fuse wiring (excluding the panels ... "Like for Like", yours was better laid-out so kudos to you.




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For the consumption conscious, and the suprise springers, the Philips MyGarden heritage wall lamp... With motion/proximity sensor Is just the thing for you. Can be really cool to have intruders jump when your lights come on.

12m range ,140 degrees detection angle
True IP 44 rating.
Weather proof die-cast aluminum & Synthetics
£30 on amazon. We're selling for considerably less.

For Tech specs & details:
https://www.nairaland.com/2941901/watch-space-electrical-showcase-review/22#53307092

reviews and user images on amazon uk, and Philips uk websites. Can't post links unfortunately.

Why would I want a PIR sensor light in Nigeria ? I thought most people would want security lights on most of the time especially at night.

Is it a security thing whereby once there is motion, the light will come on to make the person know that "we see you oo, we know you have landed". I just wonder..

allCopacetic:
For the consumption conscious, and the suprise springers, the Philips MyGarden heritage wall lamp... With motion/proximity sensor Is just the thing for you. Can be really cool to have intruders jump when your lights come on.

12m range ,140 degrees detection angle
True IP 44 rating.
Weather proof die-cast aluminum & Synthetics
£30 on amazon. We're selling for considerably less.

For Tech specs & details:
https://www.nairaland.com/2941901/watch-space-electrical-showcase-review/22#53307092

reviews and user images on amazon uk, and Philips uk websites. Can't post links unfortunately.

mavverick:
Why would I want a PIR sensor light in Nigeria ? I thought most people would want security lights on most of the time especially at night.

Is it a security thing whereby once there is motion, the light will come on to make the person know that "we see you oo, we know you have landed". I just wonder..

I feel it might save some bucks
With this recession, I'm thinking of putting the security lights on automation

mavverick:
Why would I want a PIR sensor light in Nigeria ? I thought most people would want security lights on most of the time especially at night.

Is it a security thing whereby once there is motion, the light will come on to make the person know that "we see you oo, we know you have landed". I just wonder..

For the exact same reason why other people in other parts of the world want it.... Security and Energy conservation.

The question should be, why would you want your perimeter light on at all times in the first place....when for the larger percentage of the time it is neither providing illumination to anybody around, nor deterring intrusion....

Which do you think is more deterring... A light that just sits there ON,... or one that suddenly comes on upon approach which by the way also draws attention because of the sudden illumination,
Not to speak of the psychological twist of making the intruder wonder what other suprises this building could spring or might have in stock.

It's a no brainer really

allCopacetic:


The question should be, why would you want your perimeter light on at all times in the first place....when for the larger percentage of the time it is neither providing illumination to anybody around, nor deterring intrusion....

makes sense,

allCopacetic:
For the consumption conscious, and the suprise springers, the Philips MyGarden heritage wall lamp... With motion/proximity sensor Is just the thing for you. Can be really cool to have intruders jump when your lights come on.

12m range ,140 degrees detection angle
True IP 44 rating.[/b]
Weather proof die-cast aluminum & Synthetics
£30 on amazon. [b]We're selling for considerably less.

For Tech specs & details:
https://www.nairaland.com/2941901/watch-space-electrical-showcase-review/22#53307092

reviews and user images on amazon uk, and Philips uk websites. Can't post links unfortunately.

'YOU' never stop surprising me!
I can only say "keep it Up".

BTW: Since it is meant for "outdoor", ; am sure IP56 is the general "standard rating" for outdoor security products like this.
Can you not get it in IP56 or give buyers the option of choosing either IP44 or IP56.
What prices are we looking at (for small Boys Pocket)




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*** Aside the "element of surprise" involved in products like this (motion sensors/PIR's), there is also the advantage of "energy savings" as the light only comes up when motion is detected. This means that it is only ON when someone needs illumination to see the pathway (at night) or when it needs to expose an intruder. Apart from those scenarios, your bulb is "OFF" and not using your electricity.

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'YOU' never stop surprising me!
I can only say "keep it Up".

BTW: Since it is meant for "outdoor", ; am sure IP56 is the general "standard rating" for outdoor security products like this.
Can you not get it in IP56 or give buyers the option of choosing either IP44 or IP56.
What prices are we looking at (for small Boys Pocket) ;

Thanks chief, means alot.

First off, I used the adjective "true" to empahsize that the lamp is actually tested and certified to possess the stated level of ingress protection as indicated by Philips. I for one know that 90% percent of the outdoor lamps we have here just have IP ratings inscribed on them for inscription sake. Even when you can see gaping holes in a lamp, you'll see it carry an IP56 rating.

Now about the rating , i believe ( could be wrong) IP56 would apply to more sensitive items like machines and a different water source. From a nozzle, jet propelled for instance

Rain and other light splashes are what i believe lamp enclosures are typically designed around. Plus the top of this is so beautifully designed that rain would practically just roll off the curved top.

N11,000 kpere

Does anyone know how to obtain an electric meter in Lagos?

Read on
https://www.nairaland.com/3293554/experience-obtaining-electricity-prepayment-meters

Rubyventures:
Does anyone know how to obtain an electric meter in Lagos?

mavverick:
Read on
https://www.nairaland.com/3293554/experience-obtaining-electricity-prepayment-meters

Thanks

In Nigeria, when I am inside the house and look out through the window. I don't like darkness in my compound especially when NEPA strikes and you happen to have gen on and some dont have gen, I like to be able to see stuff irrespective or whether there is someone there or not to trigger motion (PIR). I do however like the combination of the 2 (PIR & non PIR) as i have used this successfully, from a maintenance perspective also If light is not working, I change bulb job done (simples), I dont want layers of complexity of electrician telling me sensor is bad (they need to bring in PIR engineer just to exploit you).

I had Solar lights fitted, worked for about 2 months after that stopped working, which was strange but the electrician just said its the solar panel, even though its only been 2 months. I think its something else. When something is very complex, i like to avoid it in Nigeria unless i am on ground to give instructions in my presence.

I have no gain in spoiling your market, i am just expressing my views, which I am entitled to hold.

allCopacetic:

For the exact same reason why other people in other parts of the world want it.... Security and Energy conservation.

The question should be, why would you want your perimeter light on at all times in the first place....when for the larger percentage of the time it is neither providing illumination to anybody around, nor deterring intrusion....

Which do you think is more deterring... A light that just sits there ON,... or one that suddenly comes on upon approach which by the way also draws attention because of the sudden illumination,
Not to speak of the psychological twist of making the intruder wonder what other suprises this building could spring or might have in stock.

It's a no brainer really

The more we deviate from the norm in Nigeria, the more complex things get for the end user. I have learned that the hard way. But for those that are expert in certain technology, they need to push the Envelop and educate the rest of us learner on the benefits and challenges within. Architect should build " delicious" home; Engineers should build " Mad Houses" and Mechanic should drive the " Baddest Beast". That's how I see things.

mavverick:
In Nigeria, when I am inside the house and look out through the window. I don't like darkness in my compound especially when NEPA strikes and you happen to have gen on and some dont have gen, I like to be able to see stuff irrespective or whether there is someone there or not to trigger motion (PIR). I do however like the combination of the 2 (PIR & non PIR) as i have used this successfully, from a maintenance perspective also If light is not working, I change bulb job done (simples), I dont want layers of complexity of electrician telling me sensor is bad (they need to bring in PIR engineer just to exploit you).

I had Solar lights fitted, worked for about 2 months after that stopped working, which was strange but the electrician just said its the solar panel, even though its only been 2 months. I think its something else. When something is very complex, i like to avoid it in Nigeria unless i am on ground to give instructions in my presence.

I have no gain in spoiling your market, i am just expressing my views, which I am entitled to hold.